Talk:Guides/Review

Extend voting period

.... to 2 weeks, please. --WanYao 07:50, 30 June 2009 (BST)

At the moment we have to work on getting all the current guides through, and because Link and I didn't want to clutter up this page with 30 guides at once, we are currently trying to cycle through them all, about 10 at a time. During this time, I will make sure the notice stays on Template:WikiNews so we make sure the coverage continues. After that, once we hit normality and only new guides start featuring on the Review page, then I agree with two weeks. But given our process at the moment I think one week is apt. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 08:45, 30 June 2009 (BST)

DDR pretty much summed up my exact thoughts. Not to mention that most voting happens in the first few days anyway, with nearly everything else. Linkthewindow  Talk  08:54, 30 June 2009 (BST)

I think 2 weeks is more important now than later. So the community has as much say as possible on the guides already there. --WanYao 07:28, 1 July 2009 (BST)

Progress count

For you, Link. Better to keep this on the talk page. So, as of 1st of June, we have Guides for Both and Language Guides up for voting. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:58, 30 June 2009 (BST)

Question

This might sound a little stupid, but what about Guides having exactly 50% in favor and 50% against? It currently says "more than 50%" and "less than 50%", but nothing about which way 50% goes. Surely it should have been either "Guides with 50% or more support will be placed on the page" or "Guides with 50% or less support will not be placed on the page". Either way, one of them has to include the chance that the votes could end up tied.

And also, the voting time for some of the guides is over. Can anyone close them and tally the votes? - User:Whitehouse 00:31, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Be bold and close them. No one will hurt you, and I think it's safe to say that we already have an upper level after bieng listed ont he page that we can assume 50% and below means not listed. Thats just me though.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 00:33, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Ok, what about votes which were placed after the one week was up, strike them or leave them? - User:Whitehouse 00:37, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Go ahead and leave them. I'd have made the vote two weeks anyway.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 00:38, 8 July 2009 (BST)

I'm going to go ahead and make it a majority vote - 50% is not successful - for now. Contest it if you like. If it comes to a vote, is 50% successful to implement 50% being unsuccessful or do we need a majority? XD --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 00:53, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Alrighty. How about a 50% vote where one of the votes is from a user that just registered and whose only contribution was to vote against? I believe you know that I am referring to civility vote. Also, can you explain why the language is now being changed and why the hurry to rush this through when the voting section on the Dead has still not been finished? Come on, don't change stuff around to keep out my little guide.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 01:01, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Don't cry because your guide was kept out.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 01:02, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Blech, oh well, you rushed it through. Bureaucracy wins over civility and common sense again. --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 01:03, 8 July 2009 (BST)

He didn't rush anything. Don't cry because your guide was kept out. XP --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 01:05, 8 July 2009 (BST)

I didn't rush anything, I wasn't the one who closed it. Hell, I didn't even vote on your guide.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 01:06, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Ehem, usually you round up, not down. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:13, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Not when you only want the best in there. I feel majority is the way to go. If it isn't up to snuff, fuck it. There are better guides to take it's place.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 01:14, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Seems like people are more indifferent, really. Is that guide page such a clutter? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:17, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Maybe....--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 01:18, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Indeed, for comparison, deletion votes with 50% are kept. Har, I have superior logics, I wins, you loses, neener neeener! --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:21, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Yeah, but deletions are permanent and can't be recovered except via cache or something. No one's going to lose anything if a guide doesn't get featured as good. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 01:22, 8 July 2009 (BST)

That's not entirely true, except images, but even that will change if Kevan gets around to updating someday. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:30, 8 July 2009 (BST)

50/50 splits in cases where there is no 2/3rds majority rule always result in the negative outcome by default. Deletions, contentious A/VB cases where every sysop weighs in, [other thing I can't think of] etc. --Cyberbob 01:46, 8 July 2009 (BST)

No, there is no negative or positive outcome. Ties in misconduct, vandalism result in it reverting back to what it originally was, ie. not being vandalism/misconduct and the same with deletions, reverting back to being there (kept). Same would be here, unless Link intended otherwise. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:49, 8 July 2009 (BST)

It just doesn't belong on the Guides Page. It's more like amusing propaganda for a certain attitude towards the game, rather than a real guide. It can still exist somewhere else, eh?--

| T | BALLS! | 01:23 8 July 2009

Hell, modify it and make it like UDWiki:Think_about_the_children. Guide material though? No, not really.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 01:27, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Thars a place. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:30, 8 July 2009 (BST)

A better place at that. I smell a non-binding community project! :D --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 01:31, 8 July 2009 (BST)