Talk:Tollyton Barricade Plan

Discussion leading to current plan

too many vsb

There a LOT of VSB buildings in the suburb. Do we really need THAT many entry points into places? I've been staying in a building in the suburb that's been at EHB for months and months and now all of a sudden we're at VSB. While the building could be used as an entry point, there are at least 4 other buildings that serve the same purpose and many ways to enter a building to free run into the mall. Do we need 33 VSB buildings? Doesn't that mess up the ratio set by the UBP?--Tosca 17:40, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

If you want to talk about certain building - name it please. the reason of many VSBs is newbie-friendly resource-points. i'm more used to barricade plans being all over-EHBed where a new player without free run cannot actually do anything usefull. Why do you really need heavy cades? are zombies breaking in frequently? --~~~~ [talk] 20:59, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, that and it's pretty AP inefficient to go over VSB. --Karek^maps?! 23:34, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't seem to matter. They're all EHB anyways. Even the EPs. --Secruss 18:45, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I strongly recommend changing the BP towards a higher level of UBP-compliance, starting with a higher number of EHB buildings. Reasons:

1) EHB (decreasing the number of breakins in a given time) got more important with each of the last upgrades.

2) Non-freerunners do not need long-term support. They only need the chance to level fast in order to get freerunning.

Therefore, you don't need 2/3 of the buildings VSB as non-freerunner safehouses.

My concept is to have any Police Department, Firestation and Hospital at VSB in order to provide non-freerunners with the most important items that are required to level: FAKs, guns and fireaxes. DNA Extractors would be nice too, but NTs are too important to get weakened and DNA Extractors are starter items for NecroTech Lab Assistants anyway.

Additional VSB buildings may be needed as entry points (EPs), or - in rare occasions - as VSB safehouses that are low-profile targets and as such give the opportunity for non-freerunners to sleep safely after using nearby VSB TRPs (which are usually higher-profile targets).

Here is what I suggest:

[67,60] a junkyard: VSB -> EHB - EPs left and right, no important items.

[69,60] Paskin Square Fire Station: VSB -> EHB - there are 3 adjacent Firestations. No one needs more than 1 at once.

[60,61] the Bryant Building: VSB -> EHB - Why VSB? There is a VSB hospital south and the only adjacent building without another EP is [59,60] Chalderwood Bank. 2 hospitals to choose from when entering.

[65,61] Coy Cinema: VSB -> EHB - EP 1 north.

[67,61] Godwin Square School: VSB -> EHB - Similar to Bryant: The only building without another EP would be a [66,62] warehouse. UBP suggests VSB on schools, but they contain nothing important. Could stay VSB.

[65,62] a warehouse: VSB -> EHB - EP south.

[65,63] St Joachim's Hospital: VSB -> EHB - There are enough other (VSB) hospitals to choose from. EHB makes this a better healing station in Mall sieges. Could stay VSB.

[68,63] the Sequeira Motel: VSB -> EHB - surrounded by 6 streets. No need for an EP 6 times.

[61,64] a factory: VSB -> EHB - Factories need EHB. Newbies need XP not generators.

[64,64] the Prangnell Arms: VSB -> EHB - Why not EHB?

[65,64] Tavener Library: EHB -> VSB - To make up for other changes, this could be a VSB low-priority safehouse in direct neighbourhood to a hospital and a fire station.

[66,64] the Pearson Building: VSB -> EHB - hospital 1 S is EP.

[67,64] Diaper Library: VSB -> EHB - hospital 1 SW is EP.

[63,65] a warehouse: VSB -> EHB - EPs all around.

[68,65] Collis Towers: VSB -> EHB - surrounded by 6 streets. No need for an EP 6 times.

[61,67] Keys Cinema: VSB -> EHB - EP north and south, only 1 factory needs this EP. With freerunning, you can reach that from several directions though.

[64,67] Reeves Bank: VSB -> EHB - EPs north and south.

[68,68] the Ferguson Arms: VSB -> EHB - Why not EHB?.

With all suggestions implemented, there would be 35 EHB and 17 VSB buildings, which was just enough EHB for UBP compliance (EHB:VSB should be between 3:1 and 2:1, is currently less than 1:2 and would just become 2:1).

With so many changes, a picture might help to present the result more clearly:

(Removed current map to save space) --Paul Power 20:11, 27 July 2008 (BST)

Input welcome, will update the BP within 1 week if no complaints come up. --Paul Power 03:34, 6 July 2008 (BST)

I'm all for it. I really appreciate the time you put into that. --Benigno ^{SSZ RCC} 08:00, 7 July 2008 (BST)

Created new template, moved all discussion to this page and made this version official. Now spraying the new cade levels to interior walls, please help maintaning them. I'll use this pattern to combine cade info with more popular content: EHB - DEM suggests to attach slogan or ad here --Paul Power 20:53, 27 July 2008 (BST)

Previous plan and discussion

	60	61	62	63	64	65	66	67	68	69
60	Dean Lane	wasteland	St. Oswald's Church	a cemetery RP	Candy Avenue	Wyche Plaza	Power Towers	a junkyard	Garrow Drive Fire Station	Paskin Square Fire Station	60
61	the Bryant Building	Sweetapple Park	the Starr Monument	Wimbridge Boulevard Fire Station	the Fielding Monument	Coy Cinema	Kemys Towers	Godwin Square School	Kelher Walk	Dotin Walk	61
62	Peter General Hospital	Cossins Way	Woodroffe Mall	Woodroffe Mall	a junkyard	a warehouse	a warehouse	Burnham Way	Annesley Way	Witheroll Crescent	62
63	a warehouse	Corpe Park	Woodroffe Mall	Woodroffe Mall	Conolly Row Fire Station	St. Joachim's Hospital	Prowse Way	Cunningham Street	the Sequeira Motel	Humpfries Walk	63
64	Zeally Grove	a factory	the Wakley Building	Powsell Road	the Prangnell Arms	Tavener Library	the Pearson Building	Diaper Library	Club Shearly	a warehouse	64
65	Basher Row Railway Station	Sears Auto Repair	the Pettey Monument	a warehouse	the Sherren Building MPM	Kingslake Way	St. Boniface's Hospital	Bailward Way	Collis Towers	a carpark	65
66	a factory	Lovering Avenue	Winward Avenue Police Department	the Sidoli Building	Friend Plaza Police Department	Vann Road	Errington Crescent RP	Cowing Walk	Turford Street	wasteland	66
67	Handel Square	Keys Cinema	Tatler Lane	the Wisby Monument	Reeves Bank	wasteland	the Rayfield Building	wasteland	Martine Plaza	Hamlyn Lane	67
68	Keeble Towers	St. Ambrose's Church	the Mooney Monument	Pattmore Road	the Wells Building	the Chetwynd Monument	Lake Street Fire Station	Augarde Lane	the Ferguson Arms	Vann Lane	68
69	the Hellier Monument	Welsford Park	a cemetery RP	Norvell Crescent	St. Odile's Church	Cheal Street	Marcus General Hospital	Bawden Towers	Priestly Grove	the Southcott Building	69
	60	61	62	63	64	65	66	67	68	69

LEGEND
Extremely Heavily Barricaded Very Strongly Barricaded No Barricades
Auto Repair Shops Hospitals Other (non-TRP) Factories and Power Stations NecroTech Buildings Unbarricadable Forts and Malls Police Departments
MPM: Mobile Phone Masts RP: Revive Points

Recent Changes to the Barricade Plan

These are a list of the recent changes we've made to the Tollyton Barricade Plan. Feel free to discuss any concerns. These concerns were brought forth by Dathgale, and have my approval as well.

Sears Auto Repair 2S1W of the SW corner of Woodroffe changed from VSB to EHB. It's the only building of its type in the suburb, and it is the best fuel source.

The factory 1SW of the Sears Auto Repair also changed from VSB to EHB. It'll make one more hard target for the zombies to smash through. There's another factory at VSB 1N of the auto repair for non-free runners.

The Sherren Building 2S1E of the SE corner of Woodroffe changed from EHB to VSB because it is on the non-free running lane leading to the Rayfield NT's entry point, the Lake Street Fire Station. We need the buildings on the non-free running lane to be entry points because the free running lane to Rayfield is 3 times as long as moving outside.

Thanks for your continued support of the Survivor Security Zone. --Benigno ^{SSZ RCC} 07:23, 19 June 2007 (BST)

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When complete, the map below will be removed in the interest of space. Tollyton does not have an official barricade plan and, since it comprises the south of the SSZ, it desperately needs one. Please leave any comments below. I tried to do as much research as possible but if changes need to be made let me know! --Benigno ^{SSZ RCC} 14:38, 1 April 2007 (BST)

what about level of cades in junkyards? --Duke Garland 10:56, 2 April 2007 (BST)

I forgot you can cade those. I suggest VSB due to the large amount of items that can be found there. --Benigno ^{SSZ RCC} 12:17, 2 April 2007 (BST)

yeah, junkyards are missing on ssz map of other suburbs as well. i wrote about this somewhere when did my free running map --Duke Garland 13:48, 2 April 2007 (BST)

moved the map to the main page. --Benigno ^{SSZ RCC} 21:58, 5 April 2007 (BST)

I'm removing this plan from the list of UBPs, since it has far too few EHB buildings to meet the criteria. You might want to consider making some of the junkyards EHB - while they have valuable resources, they are very vulnerable to break-ins because they lack doors. -- Suli 26.May.2007

Ok, that's cool. Thanks for the tip! I'll review the plan and make some changes soon. --Benigno ^{SSZ RCC} 22:40, 27 May 2007 (BST)

Older discussion

Barricade Plan Proposal

Click to Enlarge. This is a draft of a proposed barricade plan for Tollyton. All survivors with an interest in this proposal should post comments in the Tollyton Barricade Plan talk page.

The Malton Fire Department has issued a proposal to establish a barricade plan for the suburb of Tollyton. To view a draft of the proposed plan, please click the thumbnail image to the right.

A more detailed view of this barricade plan, including changes and updates may be found here.

The MFD is prepared to make accomodations for the defensive needs of any survivor group with a long-term presence in Tollyton, and will consider all comments and suggestions.

In addition, comments and questions may be directed to Capt. Marked Grimes -- the preparer of this draft plan -- on his Talk page, or at the Brainstock.tk forums.

All survivors are urged to assist the MFD and its allies in ensuring that barricades remain at designated levels.

Thanks to Brian McStay for developing the basic layout of this page.