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| ===[[User:Iscariot]] versus [[User:Cornholioo]]===
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| The Battle of Krinks is over. And like the Imperium before them, the NSU insist on trying to alter the result to paint themselves in a better light, diminish the impact others had and for very straightforward propaganda purposes.
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| As per the example of [[UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration/Saromu and Vandr vs Ioncannon11 and Kikashie|this case]] I seek to have the result and subsequent alterations to the article judged and assessed by a neutral third party.
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| I shall accept any of the following as arbitrator:
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| *[[User:Revenant]]
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| *[[User:Amber Waves of Pain]]
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| *[[User:Misanthropy]]
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| *[[User:Rosslessness]]
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| Hugs and kisses. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 17:46, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
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| Whilst a member of the Knights, my [[User:Misanthropy/Characters/Grapple X|Knight]] character did not participate in this outing, as I was already in the area with a neutral [[User:Misanthropy/Characters/Misanthropy|alt]], from uninvolved group [[Burning chiton]]. As such, I am not stepping down as a potential arbitrator, and can point Cornholioo towards incidents of past acrimony between Iscariot and myself as proof of my impartiality. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 17:54, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
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| :'past acrimony', I assume you me calling you on your attempts to meat puppet to gain a limited category as a propaganda bonus for your other group? -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 17:57, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
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| I'd like to offer to be the neutral third part that will judge and assess the edits to the article. -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 18:09, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
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| :You attempted to ally with the Order to wipe out the other two factions, your ability to be impartial could be questioned, so I don't think you could arbitrate this case. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 18:20, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
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| I volunteer to arbitrate, if only to get shot down by Iscariot.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 18:34, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
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| ::I'm just going to write down what is not correct about the page as it is right now. 1. the Coalition and the NSU have agreed the Battle of Krinks has ended on 21 March 2010. The PK do not recognize this, but keep editing the page to 22 March 2010. I would like to see this edited to 21 March 2010. 2. The NSU did not withdrew from the fight, but left after the fight was over to avoid a second one. I would like to see this edited. 3. Martino has posted this: "I revived Burning the Fire and killed a PKer inside the power station, but things do not look good. --Martino 22:31, 21 March 2010 (UTC)" on the talk page of the Battle of Krinks (http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Talk:Battle_of_Krinks). The PK keep denying to have lost a man. I would like to see the death count of the PK edited to 'dubious' untill further notice. 4. I have corrected this mistake: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Battle_of_Krinks&diff=1679649&oldid=1679646 of Iscariot, which the Iscariot keeps editing back. This has nothing to do with the thing he reported me for, so I would like to see this edited. 5. The PK claim to have made an NPOV article. However, this: "On March 22 the Philosophe Knights declared complete victory and completion of their aims after the previous day's withdrawal of the NSU, the complete removal of non-Knights from Krinks and the pinata-ing of the entire building. Less than a week after entering the conflict, the Knights considered that they had made their lesson abundantly clear and that there was nothing further to accomplish.
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| ::With the NSU abandoning the area and the Philosophe Knights indicating that they would leave the area after having taught their lesson to both participants meant that Krinks would be left in the hands of the WWSIS and that the Battle of Krinks would come to a close.", is not NPOV. 6. The NSU doesn't agree on the results of this battle. The PK claim victory, but this is only subjective. The NSU can claim victory for several reasons as well. I would prefer to place only facts here. The only this that have changed, are: a. Krinks got partially ruined. b. The coalition got driven off krinks (most likely temporary). c. The PK have entered krinks (most likely temporary). 7. This is not completely right: "demanding a mutual cessation of conflict and offering future cooperation in protecting Malton's Power Stations." We have demanded a mutual cessation of conflict and offered to add to our wiki page that other survivor groups help us in achieving our goals. Also see this page: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Talk:National_Socialist_Union.
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| ::A lot of this are NPOV or simply wrong. Still Iscariot keeps editing them back. The page has been locking now, so truth can't be spoken. --[[User:Cornholioo|Cornholioo]] 18:42, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
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| ===[[User:Cornholioo]] versus [[User:Devorac]]===
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| Hello,
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| Sorry if I'm doing this wrong. I was told I could report someone on this page. So, a user called Devorac has been causing vandalism to the Battle of Krinks page. He has been re-adding subjective texts after I've removed them. See also this link: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Battle_of_Krinks&diff=1677678&oldid=1677674
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| Could anyone please give him a warning or something?
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| Thanks in advance,
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| [[User:Cornholioo|Cornholioo]].
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| :This is not a subjective text. The Philosophe Knights '''Have''' declared our position in the Battle of Krinks. We '''will''' be joining the battle. Unless the meaning of subjective has changed while I was gone this is in no way "Subjective". I would like to file a counter-case against Cornholioo for constantly editing material pertaining to the Battle of Krinks. If possible I would like to have a neutral arbitrator appointed to the page, rather than have 48/63 page edits made by the same person, even if no bias is meant it is sure to be imparted. -[[User:Devorac|Devorac]] 18:17, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
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| ::: Stuff you are signing there yourself, like what we are posting here, can be subjective. Calling both parties (WWSIS and NSU) "stupid", is subjective. I would rather only place facts on the page "Battle of Krinks", not signed stuff. --[[User:Cornholioo|Cornholioo]] 12:27, 21 March 2010 (UTC).
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| :Right, well Arbitration isn't about "warning" people or "reporting" them. It's about solving the underlying issues under page disputes, and ensuring that there aren't problems about. It's essentially in the form of discussion between the involved parties led by a neutral arbitrator (who the sides will agree on before the case begins). At the end, the arbitrator will make a ruling based on the discussion, designed to resolve the issues at hand. For instance, in your case, it'll likely involve a ruling on what should happen to the page in question, and will likely include a ruling to stop you contacting each other to stir up more problems.
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| :As such, I volunteer to arbitrate this case. There's also a list of other users who might be willign to arbitrate above. Both parties should, if they are willing to proceed, nominate users who they would accept to arbitrate the case.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 19:00, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
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| :: I accept Yonnua Koponen as arbitrator for the case. -[[User:Devorac|Devorac]] 19:02, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
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| I offer to arbitrate. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 19:51, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
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| :As you're a Philosophe Knight, I feel you should probably note the fact that you're an associated party to one side.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 19:52, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
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| ::I think the very clear link in my sig might give it away. Also, my Knight is a non-combatant and will not be taking part in this Krink's business, he's busy at the mansion. So much for your involved party argument. However I do have experience in resolving disputes between diametrically opposed parties, including BB2, MT09, the Knights to name but a few. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 19:55, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
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| :::I know, I just feel you should let them know before a group member of one of the party's arbitrates the case.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 19:58, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::Have you disclosed that you are in fact a dirty communist in real life? -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 20:02, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::: I thank you Iscariot, and I more than welcome your advice in the coming matters. However I would like this done in such a way that there is no chance for bias, whether perceived or real. As such I cannot in good faith accept either you or Misanthropy as an arbitrator. Thanks anyway Izzy. -[[User:Devorac|Devorac]] 20:03, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
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| Yonnua, after reviewing case archives I have decided to revoke my acceptance of you. Nothing against you I just would like a different Arbitrator, If possible I would like [[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] as an arbitrator. -[[User:Devorac|Devorac]] 20:31, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
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| :I'm so popular. Of course I'll arbie, if both parties accept. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:35, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
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| I'm sitting in Krinks right now, sippin' tea with AHLG and watching everything. I'd be happy to arbitrate. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 00:55, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
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| Cheerio lads, I'd be willing to head-up this sorting.{{User:Lelouch/sig}} 04:35, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
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| I'd like to remind all parties involved that it's standard procedure to leave the offending edit as it stood when the arbitration started, and not to continue to revert each other. Given that Cornholioo started this arbitration at 17:58, 18/03, I'm going to revert back to the latest version of the page in question at that point, and I don't care who made it. Until this case is closed, both parties are asked to refrain from further editing of the page section in question. Thanks. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 21:50, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
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| :Then you're completely wrong. Cornholioo started the arbitration so it's Devorac's edits that are contested. The page should remain on Cornholioo's preferred state. This isn't A/P, protection isn't based on time of cycling. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 22:33, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
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| ::Aha. Carry on then. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 22:44, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
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| I accept Yonnua Koponen or DanceDanceRevolution as arbitrator. I do not accept Iscariot and Rosslessness as arbitrator. --[[User:Cornholioo|Cornholioo]] 12:32, 21 March 2010 (UTC).
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| :I recommend you reconsider Ross as an arbitrator. He's probably the most experienced, and I'm certain he'll be neutral.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 12:59, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
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| :: I know his type, he only denyed those as the opposing candinate wanted them. --{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 14:53, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
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| ::: I denied him because I don't think he's neutral. But believe whatever you want. --[[User:Cornholioo|Cornholioo]] 17:45, 21 March 2010 (UTC).
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| ::::I did point out a spelling mistake of Corn's once. Could be construed as bias. Besides you know how anti freedom of speech I am. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 12:00, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::I recommend you take Rosslessness. I can guarantee you that Yonnua and DDR aren't going to be accepted. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 17:50, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
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| Seeing that Ross, Iscariot, and Yonnua have been eliminated as potential arbitrators, I offer myself to arbitrate. I've reviewed the details of the case carefully, looking through the history and talk page of the Battle of Krinks. I am familiar with the facts and I'll rule impartially after hearing the arguments of both sides, with the goal of establishing fair and clear guidelines for the editing of the page in question.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 13:14, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
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| :I accept. --[[User:Cornholioo|Cornholioo]] 18:06, 21 March 2010 (UTC).
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| Could I make one little suggestion? Even though this has been disguised as a dispute between two individuals, it's really a dispute between two groups in a way,... these groups being the NSU, and the Philosophe Knights. But regardless of how you view what I've just said, I don't think that it is appropriate for either party to be editing the page '''[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Battle_of_Krinks&action=history as can be seen here]''' until this case is over.... -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 04:26, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
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| :Did you even read the case's discussion here, or look ''at'' the history? I don't think there was a single phrase you just said that hasn't been assumed or agreed on already. The only edits made ''after'' it was decided that the edit in dispute should remain untouched was to simply update the battle to signify the end, which is agreed on and has little significance to this arbitration case. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 04:37, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
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| ::You missed my point all togethor. Like Giles states below,... arbitration appears to still be going on to me. I've seen nothing stating it has concluded. That said, until the two parties involved agree as to wether it should be NPOV, or POV, neither should be editing it. And as for telling me it's something that hasn't been agreed to... that's why it's a suggestion. -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 14:04, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
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| The current charges have been dropped on our end. -[[User:Devorac|Devorac]] 06:36, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
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| :There's still the matter of cornholioo requesting arbitration in regards to "re-adding subjective texts", for which I am available. Of course, you're both free at any time to reach your own consensus about how you want to handle [[Battle of Krinks|the article in question]]. If you can agree to collectively write the article either POV or NPOV, and stick to it, then there will be no need for arbitration. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 08:43, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
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| :I think there is still need for arbitration. Devorac, do you agree to take Giles Sednik as arbitrator? --[[User:Cornholioo|Cornholioo]] 9:01, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
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| :: Decide carefully, we are dropping this case. You can have your edit back if you want, I won't revert it. The battle has progressed to the point that fighting over this particular edit is a wee bit silly. You can press the case, I wouldn't advise it though. -[[User:Devorac|Devorac]] 16:51, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
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| :::You have broken the rules by editing the whole page, including the part which was under arbitration. I hope the admins will react on this correctly. --[[User:Cornholioo|Cornholioo]] 18:16, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
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| ::: Those claims are false. '''My''' editing ability is restricted on that page (Along with yours), Iscariot was not shackled by our Arbitration case. Unless you want to be fighting this battle on two fronts I once again suggest that you drop this case. -[[User:Devorac|Devorac]] 18:36, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
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| ===[[User:Iscariot]] versus [[User:Ravenium]]===
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| Ravenium has:
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| #refused to listen to basic logic and proof that has been provided by other users
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| I contest his edits to the Pole Mall danger report and seek to have these matter resolved by an arbitrator.
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| I will accept [[User:Revenant]], [[User:Grogh]], [[User:Amber Waves of Pain]] or [[User:Rosslessness]] as arbitrator. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 02:38, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
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| I realize Iscariot has named those he would like, however, if they decline I will volunteer myself to arbitrate. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 06:32, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
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| :Sure I'll arby. Thats my only comment on the case I'll make, to avoid bias.--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 09:38, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
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| I too volunteer in the event of the other party not accepting anyone from Iscariot's list.--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 21:18, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
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| As an involved party ([[MOB]] leadership), I must abstain from arbitrating. However, I will be watching the case with interest. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 14:47, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
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While the wiki community attempts to work on the basis of encouragement and cooperation, there are occasions where wiki users find themselves unable to reach accord. In the event of this happening, the Arbitration Team may be called upon to intervene, and attempt to find a reasonable compromise that, while perhaps not satisfying both parties, may at least assist in defusing the situation, thanks to the unbiased third party.
Guidelines for Arbitration Requests
In assisting in Arbitration, we generally suggest that both parties agree to the Arbitration. This is not, by any means, a requirement, but we do require that both parties be represented in proceedings.
Any Arbitration request should provide at least the following:
- The aggrieved parties. Either person vs person, or [list of people] vs [list of people].
- The reason for the arbitration. This should very specifically be without reference to people, as that information has already been provided. It should be a short paragraph indicating the causes of the aggrievement, and why both parties feel it requires arbitration
- Any pages affected by the aggrievement. This should be a simple list of links.
Once the Arbitration commences, the Arbitrator will request statements from all parties involved. Any evidence to back up one's statement should be provided in link form. Each party will then have an opportunity to rebut their opponent's statement. After these two steps, the Arbitrator will then consider the case, and reach a conclusion, and determine the outcome that is required. It's the duty of the Arbitrator to move a case he accepted to a subpage of UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration, and to update the status of the arbitration case in the Arbitration Cases in Progress section.
As a note, by requesting an Arbitration, all parties are thus obliged to accept the outcome of the Arbitration. Not doing will be considered Vandalism, and such vandalism attempts will be treated as if the vandal has already received two warnings.
After the Arbitration is over, it will then be moved to an archive page. As publicly accessible pages, they may be used to establish precedent in further, applicable cases.
Current Arbitrators
- For guidelines on how to arbitrate, see Arbitration Guidelines.
The following users have placed their hand up as users who are willing to be contacted to act as an Arbitrator. The role of Arbitrator is not restricted to the Administration Team; any user can be contacted as an Arbitrator (even if not listed below) and use this page for the arbitration, so long as both parties agree to the Arbitrator. Users who wish to place their hand up as an Arbitrator should place their name below on the list, using *{{usr|YourUserPage}}
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