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In general, off-site requests relayed to administrative pages don't need to be carried out, with a few exceptions: | In general, off-site requests relayed to administrative pages don't need to be carried out, with a few exceptions: | ||
#Actions requested on behalf of a banned user (especially for, but not necessarily limited to [[UDWiki:Administration/De-Escalations#Permaban_Appeals|Permaban appeals]]). | #Actions requested on behalf of a banned user (especially for, but not necessarily limited to [[UDWiki:Administration/De-Escalations#Permaban_Appeals|Permaban appeals]]). | ||
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===For=== | ===For=== | ||
#--'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 15:10, 30 May 2011 (BST) | #--'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 15:10, 30 May 2011 (BST) | ||
# --{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>15:11, 30 May 2011 (bst)</small> | #:<s> --{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>15:11, 30 May 2011 (bst)</small></s> | ||
# --{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 15:12, 30 May 2011 (BST) | # --{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 15:12, 30 May 2011 (BST) | ||
#I still don't really like the part about temporarily tolerating other off-site requests but I don't suppose it can be too badly abused. It's probably just me and its no reason to shoot it down. Overall the policy is good and definitely one that is needed. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>15:15, 30 May 2011 (UTC)</sub> | #:<s>I still don't really like the part about temporarily tolerating other off-site requests but I don't suppose it can be too badly abused. It's probably just me and its no reason to shoot it down. Overall the policy is good and definitely one that is needed. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>15:15, 30 May 2011 (UTC)</sub></s> I've changed my mind. Policy is not good as written. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>17:49, 31 May 2011 (UTC)</sub> | ||
#Sounds reasonable.--<span>[[User:The General|The General]] <sup>[[User Talk:The General|T]] [[Special:ListUsers/sysop|<span title="System Operator">Sys</span>]] [[Project_UnWelcome|<span title="Project UnWelcome">U!</span>]] [[Project Wiki Patrol|<span title="Project Wiki Patrol">P!</span>]] <span class="plainlinks">[http://urbandeadwiki.smfforfree.com/index.php <span title="Urban Dead Wiki Forum">F!</span>]</span></sup></span> 16:23, 30 May 2011 (BST) | |||
#The part about being able to overturn the request is absolutely necessary, since we would otherwise be giving these off-site requests the same weight as on-site requests, but without the requirement that any sort of paper trail be provided. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 16:52, 30 May 2011 (BST) | |||
#:<small>[[UDWiki_talk:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Off-Site_Requests_for_Admin_Actions#Discussion_on_Aichon.27s_vote|Discussion moved to talk page]]. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 17:18, 31 May 2011 (BST)</small> | |||
# --{{User:Moodie/sig}} 04:09, 2 June 2011 (BST) | |||
===Against=== | ===Against=== | ||
# -If it's even remotely worthwhile, it's worth taking the 10 seconds to log in and sign. If it isn't, then don't bother requesting it. --[[User:Karloth_vois|Karloth Vois]] <sup>[[¯\(°_o)/¯]]</sup> 15:24, 30 May 2011 (BST) | # -If it's even remotely worthwhile, it's worth taking the 10 seconds to log in and sign. If it isn't, then don't bother requesting it. --[[User:Karloth_vois|Karloth Vois]] <sup>[[¯\(°_o)/¯]]</sup> 15:24, 30 May 2011 (BST) | ||
#:how about if they are banned?--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>15:34, 30 May 2011 (bst)</small> | #:how about if they are banned?--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>15:34, 30 May 2011 (bst)</small> | ||
#::the only logical solution to this issue is to physically move banned people to leper colonies. --[[User:Karloth_vois|Karloth Vois]] <sup>[[¯\(°_o)/¯]]</sup> 19:59, 31 May 2011 (BST) | |||
#Why would anyone vote for this? It had potential right up until the author intentionally made it so on a whim any sysop can step in and undo the request. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 16:23, 30 May 2011 (BST) | #Why would anyone vote for this? It had potential right up until the author intentionally made it so on a whim any sysop can step in and undo the request. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 16:23, 30 May 2011 (BST) | ||
# Sounds flaky to me. --[[User:Akbar|Akbar]] 16:27, 30 May 2011 (BST) | |||
#Much like the rest of the wiki this seems silly and pointless. --<span style="font-size:xx-small; letter-spacing: -2px; text-shadow: #cc4444 1px 1px 10px">[[File:555Manbabies.gif|You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|link=User:Laughing Man]][[User:ShaqFu|<span style="color:#FF0018">|</span>]][[User:Katthew|<span style="color:#33DD33">|</span>]][[User:Ryu|<span style="color:#FF0048">|</span>]][[User:SprCobra|<span style="color:#FF0060">|</span>]][[User:Laughing Man|<span style="color:#FF0078">|</span>]][[User:Revenant|<span style="color:#FF0090">|</span>]][[User:underisk|<span style="color:#FF00A8">|</span>]][[User:I WARNED YOU ABOUT TEMPLATES BRO|<span style="color:#FF00C0">|</span>]][[User:DeRathi|<span style="color:#FF00D8">|</span>]][[User:DerpDerp|<span style="color:#FF00F0">|</span>]][[User:Abd al-Rahim ibn al-Husain al-'Iraqi|<span style="color:#FF00ff">|</span>]][[User:Sykic|<span style="color:#E700ff">|</span>]][[User:Vaporware|<span style="color:#CF00ff">|</span>]][[User:Nubis |<span style="color:#9F00ff">|</span>]][[User:Riseabove|<span style="color:#8700ff">|</span>]][[User:Teehee McGee |<span style="color:#6F00ff">|</span>]][[User:Anothergenericzombie|<span style="color:#5700ff">|</span>]][[User:Ryu|<span style="color:#0048ff">|</span>]][[User:Mortimer Wiley|<span style="color:#0044DD">|</span>]][[User:Deadone|<span style="color:#3F00ff">|</span>]][[User:woland37|<span style="color:#2700ff">|</span>]][[User:Colbear|<span style="color:#0000dd">|</span>]][[User:Oh no!|<span style="color:#27ff00">|</span>]][[User:Bender Bending Rodriguez|<span style="color:#0F00ff">|</span>]][[User:Gardenator|<span style="color:#808000">|</span>]][[User:ephphatha |<span style="color:#0000ff">|</span>]]</span> 21:25, 30 May 2011 (BST) | |||
# Against, policy is too vague and overreaching. "Sys-Ops may temporarily tolerate other off-site requests" In particular. Also does not take into account how a user would contact said sysops. --{{User:Gardenator/sig}} 08:00, 31 May 2011 (BST) | |||
# Against. Off-site requests should not be accepted unless by a banned user. That's the only way to end this god-awful dispute. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>17:51, 31 May 2011 (UTC)</sub> | |||
# thought about it a bit more--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>17:58, 31 May 2011 (bst)</small> | |||
# As Karloth and Vapor --[[User:Fjorn|Fjorn]] 07:20, 1 June 2011 (BST) | |||
# I dislike the vagueness of the policy, but I cannot put a finger on specifically why. --{{User:sannok/sig}} 07:53, 1 June 2011 (BST) | |||
# Thats a big ten-no Den mother. Bad idea, just stay with the current "Person asked me to do it, I'm doin' it, less discuss on talk pages laters" bit.--[[User:SA|That filthy fucking red link]] 20:08, 1 June 2011 (BST) | |||
# It's no secret I'm in favour of off-site requests being granted, but this is poorly worded and would just provide a minefield for future drama if previous requests are any benchmark to use. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 04:40, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
Latest revision as of 13:17, 3 June 2011
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In general, off-site requests relayed to administrative pages don't need to be carried out, with a few exceptions:
- Actions requested on behalf of a banned user (especially for, but not necessarily limited to Permaban appeals).
- Actions that would have been considered to be scheduled anyway (particularly, but not limited to Scheduled Deletions and Scheduled Protections).
Sys-Ops may temporarily tolerate other off-site requests. As such a request is merely tolerated, a sys-op may anytime ask for another sys-op to overturn it, unless the user himself shows up on-site to confirm it.
The following actions are absolutely never eligible for off-site requests, but must always be asked for on-site:
- Votes
- Self-requested bans
- Self-requested demotions
Voting Section
Voting Rules |
Votes must be numbered, signed, and timestamped. They can take one of two forms:
Votes that do not conform to the above will be struck by a sysop. |
The only valid voting sections are For and Against. If you wish to abstain from voting, do not vote. |
For
- -- Spiderzed█ 15:10, 30 May 2011 (BST)
--User:Sexualharrison15:11, 30 May 2011 (bst)
- --TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 15:12, 30 May 2011 (BST)
I still don't really like the part about temporarily tolerating other off-site requests but I don't suppose it can be too badly abused. It's probably just me and its no reason to shoot it down. Overall the policy is good and definitely one that is needed. ~ 15:15, 30 May 2011 (UTC)I've changed my mind. Policy is not good as written. ~ 17:49, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- Sounds reasonable.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 16:23, 30 May 2011 (BST)
- The part about being able to overturn the request is absolutely necessary, since we would otherwise be giving these off-site requests the same weight as on-site requests, but without the requirement that any sort of paper trail be provided. —Aichon— 16:52, 30 May 2011 (BST)
- Discussion moved to talk page. -- Spiderzed█ 17:18, 31 May 2011 (BST)
- --Moodie Talk Contributions 04:09, 2 June 2011 (BST)
Against
- -If it's even remotely worthwhile, it's worth taking the 10 seconds to log in and sign. If it isn't, then don't bother requesting it. --Karloth Vois ¯\(°_o)/¯ 15:24, 30 May 2011 (BST)
- how about if they are banned?--User:Sexualharrison15:34, 30 May 2011 (bst)
- the only logical solution to this issue is to physically move banned people to leper colonies. --Karloth Vois ¯\(°_o)/¯ 19:59, 31 May 2011 (BST)
- how about if they are banned?--User:Sexualharrison15:34, 30 May 2011 (bst)
- Why would anyone vote for this? It had potential right up until the author intentionally made it so on a whim any sysop can step in and undo the request. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 16:23, 30 May 2011 (BST)
- Sounds flaky to me. --Akbar 16:27, 30 May 2011 (BST)
- Much like the rest of the wiki this seems silly and pointless. --|||||||||||||||||||||||||| 21:25, 30 May 2011 (BST)
- Against, policy is too vague and overreaching. "Sys-Ops may temporarily tolerate other off-site requests" In particular. Also does not take into account how a user would contact said sysops. -- LABIA on the INTERNET Dunell Hills Corpseman #24 - |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG 08:00, 31 May 2011 (BST)
- Against. Off-site requests should not be accepted unless by a banned user. That's the only way to end this god-awful dispute. ~ 17:51, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- thought about it a bit more--User:Sexualharrison17:58, 31 May 2011 (bst)
- As Karloth and Vapor --Fjorn 07:20, 1 June 2011 (BST)
- I dislike the vagueness of the policy, but I cannot put a finger on specifically why. --sannok(talk)(kilts) 07:53, 1 June 2011 (BST)
- Thats a big ten-no Den mother. Bad idea, just stay with the current "Person asked me to do it, I'm doin' it, less discuss on talk pages laters" bit.--That filthy fucking red link 20:08, 1 June 2011 (BST)
- It's no secret I'm in favour of off-site requests being granted, but this is poorly worded and would just provide a minefield for future drama if previous requests are any benchmark to use. 04:40, 2 June 2011 (BST)