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idk. sokker wud beh funzorz. WE shud also make mudkipz a new weapon. i liek mudkipz--[[User:DewarP|DewarP]] 23:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
#idk. sokker wud beh funzorz. WE shud also make mudkipz a new weapon. i liek mudkipz--[[User:DewarP|DewarP]] 23:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 


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#'''Kill''' - Did you just copy and paste what you had in the discussion page? Did you read any of the comments? There was a ton of stuff that other people suggested that would make this a much better suggestion. This, as is? Not even close to being good. Its an ok thought, not a good suggestion. - [[User:Tylerisfat|tylerisfat]] 22:04, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
#'''Kill''' - Did you just copy and paste what you had in the discussion page? Did you read any of the comments? There was a ton of stuff that other people suggested that would make this a much better suggestion. This, as is? Not even close to being good. Its an ok thought, not a good suggestion. - [[User:Tylerisfat|tylerisfat]] 22:04, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
#'''Kill''' - For reasons I outlined when this was on [[Developing Suggestions]].  --{{User:Galaxy125/Sig}}07:26, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
#'''Kill''' - For reasons I outlined when this was on [[Developing Suggestions]].  --{{User:Galaxy125/Sig}}07:26, 30 October 2008 (UTC)


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20081029 Football

A Big F'ing Dog 02:52, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion type
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Suggestion description

Before I start let me say that this is a serious suggestion even though it might seem humorous. What I'm going to suggest is ridiculous and not in genre one bit. This is more of an interesting way of experimenting with how the Urban dead population reacts to a silly addition than any sort of change for the game itself.

I suggest that Kevan place a football (as in a American soccer ball) somewhere outdoors in Malton. The football ball can't be attacked or picked up. However if you're in the room with it you choose which direction to kick it in (N, NE, E, SE, S, SW, W, NW). Kicking it would cost 1AP and move the ball 1 space in that direction. Both zombies and survivors can kick the ball. You'd be able to see the ball from adjacent squares either as "football" (with a font difference to distinguish it from a character) or with some sort of icon.

The current position of the ball would be added to the game stats. Perhaps teams would form to compete moving the ball to different destinations, or "goals." I'm not sure I'd make a point of playing with the ball for long but like where's george it'd be interesting to see where it is.

And while it's out of genre, since it would only exist in one square at a time in ALL of Malton it shouldn't be that disruptive. It'd strikes the same fun balance Christmas trees, Halloween masks, lava lamps and other silly things in the game (ok I made up the lava lamps).

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Keep Votes

  1. idk. sokker wud beh funzorz. WE shud also make mudkipz a new weapon. i liek mudkipz--DewarP 23:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


Kill Votes

  1. Kill- Hmm. Now I think about it, you should have listened to the suggestions on Developing Suggestions. Then you would have gotten a lot of keeps. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 03:15, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
  2. Kill - I loved this suggestion when you put it in [[[Developing Suggestions]]. Then, many people came along and added to it and really enhanced it, it made it a lot better. Like, the Survivor vs Zombie thing, the implementation as a joke for the 2010 World Cup, the scoreboard on the stats page with the West/East borders being worth a point for the respective teams, and the one I liked the most, if it was Zed v Human, if a Zed kicked it and Zeds were attacking the West Border, it had a 33.3% chance of going NW, W or SW, making it more difficult to locate etc. If your going to put it on Developing Suggestions, at least take in some of the ideas, because with a few of them implemented in to your core idea, I would have voted a gigantic keep.--CyberRead240 03:23, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
  3. Kill - Interesting concept, but in its current state I can't vote keep. The biggest thing for me is that it needs to be temporary (like two weeks or something), and that isn't specified. Also as SLR for taking on board suggestions. I empathise with Jed's concerns about genre, but I think if it was a temporary thing I could overlook that.--Nallan (Talk) 03:49, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
  4. kill the idea is great in theory but you really should have used the feedback to refine this. Scoring system, short duration of the game and possibly limiting it to only one or 2 burbs would all have been good things!--Honestmistake 11:57, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
    While i do realize that this is looking like it will be viable for a Sysop SPAMINATION I would strongly urge them not to do so as I suspect it will receive a lot more kills than spams and deserves to be left for voting because of that!--Honestmistake 12:00, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
  5. Kill - I like the idea, but I think you should take the points raised in discussion into account and resubmit it. -- Cheese 12:23, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
  6. Kill - As above. Also, it's called a soccer ball, damnit! ;) --William Told 16:10, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
  7. Kill - Return to Developing Suggestions for now, please. Though this would be a fun addition to celebrate the world cup in a couple years. --Private Mark 18:10, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
  8. Kill - Did you just copy and paste what you had in the discussion page? Did you read any of the comments? There was a ton of stuff that other people suggested that would make this a much better suggestion. This, as is? Not even close to being good. Its an ok thought, not a good suggestion. - tylerisfat 22:04, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
  9. Kill - For reasons I outlined when this was on Developing Suggestions. -- Galaxy125 07:26, 30 October 2008 (UTC)


Spam/Dupe Votes

  1. Spam - this is after all a zombie apocalypse. Temporary additions out of genre are ok, long term ones arent (in my book).--xoxo 03:35, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
  2. Spam As said in discussion, if you want to play a different game, LEAVE AND PLAY A DIFFERENT GAME. This game is about a zombie apocalypse. Not Urban Soccer. The Christmas trees and, especially, the Halloween stuff, work because they are temporary. And they actually work because the realistically reflect people trying to cope with life in a war zone. And everyone likes holiday festivities.--Pesatyel 06:35, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
  3. Spam - At least you got the name right this time. It's still as I said in discussion, hopelessly out of genre. Also, the 'just one square' argument doesn't fly here, if it did the trenchies would be using it constantly to have sentry guns placed in gatehouses. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 12:10, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
  4. Spam - If you want to play football, go play football. Don't try to cram it into a zombie apocalypse. They don't mix. --Midianian|T|DS|C:RCS| 16:56, 29 October 2008 (UTC)



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  1. Kill - This is a terrible idea, but you can totally fix it up. --NegativeGal 06:01, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
    • Re - Please be more specific about how to fix it on the discussion page. --MrSuggester 14:01, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
      • Re - Sure, I have detailed my proposed fixes here. --NegativeGal 23:38, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
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  1. Spam - Kung Fu CB Mama on Wheels is an inappropriate Survivor Class. --NoFunAtAll 09:01, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
  2. Dupe - Duplicate Suggestion --AnotherSuggester 05:01, 14 Nov 2005 (GMT)