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Aichon

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Announcement: I'm no longer active. My talk page is still your best bet to get in touch. —Aichon— 04:39, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Please be aware of the following guidelines before posting here.

• New conversations should be started at the bottom using a level two header (e.g. ==Header==).
• I like to keep conversations wherever they start, but if a conversation ends up here, I will keep it here.
• I will format comments for stylistic reasons, delete comments for whatever reason, and generally do anything else within reason.

Thanks. —Aichon—

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You Know

I still thinks its a work around alt. Looking at the editing times of all the alt accounts its normally online between 7am and finishing about 10pm (wiki time). I'm assuming that like me you believe the IP thing is just hot air?--Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 18:14, 29 October 2010 (BST)

Pretty much. There's really no valid reason for him to be engaging in the behavior he's engaging in, and if he continues in it, I see no reason not to just ban his IP in another day or two. Possibly escalating him as well since he's continuing in vandal behavior. Also, do all wiki sites call their admins "sysops"? I couldn't remember if they did or didn't, but he certainly knew how to refer to us here. —Aichon— 18:20, 29 October 2010 (BST)

Not Really. But it does say sysops about 9 times on the VB page. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 18:29, 29 October 2010 (BST)

This is a good Read, Apparently Hermann of Teutonborg was also known as Arminius. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 18:36, 29 October 2010 (BST)

I told you so! Trust your native historian. -- Spiderzed▋ 19:03, 29 October 2010 (BST)

The admin permission is universally known as "System Operator" within the software, "sysop" is just usually the most common abbreviation of this. 17:03, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

I had seen them referred to as Administrators in some places, so I didn't know if that name was more common elsewhere. —Aichon— 18:02, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Communities call them anything they want (I think Brickipedia, the lego wiki, has funky names) but the permission groups are always the same by default. Sure they used to be called "moderators" here, but the position was still technically "system operator". 18:09, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

I know

But you won't run for crat, regardless of your sensible attitude. BTW, the Hermann situation? As i read it, both you and yonn are in favour of my Ban as an alt, delete the page and Mis isn't convinced? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 18:58, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

I say ban it, I just figure there's bound to be something pre-emptive we can do for future attempts like that. 20:45, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

So, let's go ahead and do the bans. As for the future...your Open Discussion idea might need to be put forward for discussion after all. I have a feeling this won't stop. —Aichon— 01:00, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Eh, as I said with the last round on A/BP, I'm already putting in less time with UD. With my A/RE coming up in a few weeks, I've been thinking seriously about whether I intend to stick it out or if I should go to A/DM preemptively since no one likes it when sysops file for demotion right after making everyone go through an A/RE. My interest with the game has been waning recently, and I find that I more or less only really enjoy it when I'm in the middle of something bigger now, such as Blackmore 404, BB3, what I was hoping the Samhain Slaughter 4 would be, etc.. The wiki still interests me, but I'm not sure how long that will last if my interest in the game keeps decreasing. This is the same trend I've noticed in myself with past interests that have kept me entertained for a year or more at a time, and even if I don't quit right now, I think it's probably safe to say that my activity will be on the decline, in general, from here on out. —Aichon— 01:00, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Also, it's not "regardless of", it's "because of". ;) —Aichon— 01:01, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Fixed UD AP Recovery Script

I realize it's in your Discontinued script section but I still like using it instead of the full blown Barrista script. It now supports negative AP, and for a large enough negative will display a date in addition to time. Also, I changed the time display to use the browser/system locale settings instead of the hardcoded 24-hour time. My changes are here if you want to update your copy of the script. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thvortex (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.

Sounds like good changes all around, and from screenshots I've seen, you're not the only one that uses it. I'll trust that your changes work as you say and will update the copy I have to your version. If you ever do set up a userscript page of your own, which you might consider doing, given how many scripts you've made and edited now, let me know and I'll link that to your page as well. —Aichon— 04:46, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Completely Forgot

Still want demoting? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 19:17, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Yep, haven't changed my mind yet. Is this just a friendly check to see if I still wanted it, an official one because I missed something, or were you planning on doing it today? —Aichon— 19:19, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Just reviewing stuff and with the arbies hoo-ha I completely forgot to do it. I was giving you a get out of jail free card. Tell me when you've finished with the Misconduct archives and I'll do it. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 19:21, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I had just figured you were waiting until the 25th, as per the request I had made since I figured I'd help keep things tidy until then. :P Anyway, if you want to do it today instead, I'll let you know when I wrap up this tidying. —Aichon— 19:23, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

25th is fine dear fellow. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 19:25, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Works for me. :) —Aichon— 19:26, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Demotion

Most sysops would slack around after a demotion request, or even abuse their powers. But you just start to work even harder. That's classy :) --Thadeous Oakley 21:13, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Ehh...I've always just kinda done odd janitorial work whenever it bothers me or the mood catches me. The whole sysop or not thing never really mattered to me. As I said in my nomination, you guys could expect "more of the same" from me once I was promoted, and the same should be true in reverse. I helped before I was a sysop, I helped while I was a sysop, and as long as I'm around, I'll still help after I'm a sysop. It just so happens that Spiderzed's linking to archived A/M cases on A/PM reminded me of the fact that I had started to clean them up awhile back but hadn't finished. Maybe I'll get around to finally cleaning up/making consistent A/VD as well before I leave. >_> —Aichon— 21:18, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

It was a compliment, hush deary. But if you need any help, just sound the horn. --Thadeous Oakley 21:28, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

I know, and thanks. —Aichon— 22:00, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Alphabetical Order Failure

Re: Template:Reganbank Groups
Wow, that was pretty embarrassing on my part. Thanks for catching that.--Labine50 ^{MEMS | MHG} 01:06, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Up until a few weeks ago when I added that notice regarding alphabetical order to the top of the code for all of those pages, almost no one at all followed the guidelines, so I was having to correct these sorts of things quite a bit more often. I'm used to it at this point, and don't even give it a second thought. :) —Aichon— 01:10, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

TFW April 29 - May 1, 2011

Want to try to organize something at this convention in Dallas this spring? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vapor (talk • contribs) 00:01, 28 November 2010 (UTC).

Honestly? I hate to be a spoilsport, but no, not really.

Truth be told, I just don't get cons or the idea of meet ups with other people you meet in online games. The WoW guild I was with for 2-3 years had annual meetings that brought in dozens of attendees from around the globe, but I never went. And there's even a halfway decent local con that I've never bothered to attend. Those sorts of things just aren't my cup of tea. I don't know if it's the fact that I only know these people online and have no interest in putting a face behind the personality or voice (i.e. I'm shallow), that I'd be embarrassed in explaining to others why I'm gone for a few days (i.e. shallow again), or that I just can't be arsed (i.e. I'm lazy, which is my current theory, since it seems to hold true elsewhere), but the simple truth of the matter is that I've just never been interested in attending these sorts of things, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

If someone is passing through College Station, I'd be happy to grab a meal with them and hang out for a few hours, but April is when I should be on the home stretch with my degree, so even if the desire were there to attend, the logistics wouldn't be great for me anyway. As far as organizing it goes, however, I do respect that others enjoy these sorts of things, and I do think that it'd be a great place to have it. Arlington isn't too far from DFW, and getting to Texas is a good middle-ground for both east- and west-coasters, as well as being a not-too-bad drive for people in the midwest that might want to do that. Plus, I think DFW has non-stop flights to Europe, which makes it a good spot to be at. —Aichon— 03:51, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm not optomistic this convention idea will come to fruition, but if the universe aligns just so and by some miracle it goes down in DFW, I'd be sad to hear you won't make it. I do understand though and can only hope you'll be convinced otherwise if the oppurtunity presents itself again in earnest. ~ 05:12, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Dumb Question

So I am learning about tables and wiki-magic things but I think I am missing something. I am making a RRF semi-history page that shows some of the targets the horde has hit and where we have been. Its a half-parody on weather stations "Live StormTracker---Now with 3D SUPERDOPPPPPLLLLEEEER." I am calling it "ZomboTracker." For the target page, I jury-rigged Rooster's nav template so I can switch between maps of different buildings that we have nahmed nahmed over the years. Here is the template for that and here is one of the subpages that calls it..

The problem is in the template, the page space matches up with my image graphic on top (its a space holder for now, I'll probably redo it to match the theme). But in the subpage call, it does not extend all the way to the right to match up with the image; there is a lot of white space which makes me sad. Why is this and how would I fix it? -MHSstaff 20:22, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Hope you don't mind that I edited the template. Also, you'll need to edit the hospital page to make the image 600px instead of 700px, for reasons that should be obvious when you see it, and you might want to check whether you want to use Size or ImageSize as the name of your variable, since the template calls didn't match the template code (I switched the template to Size to match the template calls).

Anyway, the problem was that you basically had one giant cell in the table you had. That cell had a white background, and you put three elements into it: the header image, the navigation table, and the radar image table. All of the space not taken up by one of those three elements would thus be white, the background color of the cell, rather than being black, which is what caused your problem. To fix it, I first, decided it was best if the header image had its own table row, rather than merely forcing the other elements to line wrap, so I bumped it to its own row. I then originally tried to put the nav table and the radar image table in their own table cells, but that proved to be problematic for various reasons (should be possible still, but I didn't want to do it), so I ended up just dumping them in the same cell and setting that cell's background color to black. Really, that's all there was to it. I tried some other stuff to fancy it up a bit, but ended up just leaving it like that. —Aichon— 21:37, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

I see. If it is too large, it wraps to the bottom. Many thanks for all your help kind sir. -MHSstaff 01:30, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Also, that table was 727px for a reason (the nav table was 6.5em, which ended up being 74px, and 801-74=727). In my browser, there's now a black strip along the outside of the red border on the right side of the table. It might look different in IE though, since IE, quite possibly, still handles the display of borders completely contrary to the web standards that every other browser abides by, despite having that as a bug for the last 15 years... —Aichon— 02:23, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

It was completely broken for me in Firefox so I bumped it down slightly from 727px. -MHSstaff 02:30, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

It was? *goes off to investigate and fix for FF and WebKit browsers* —Aichon— 02:34, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Try 726px. Looks like there might be some sub-pixel rendering differences between WebKit and Firefox that are causing the issue. 726px works for me in FF without causing the black stripe to appear down the right side (i.e. the red is flush with the edge). Looks fine in Safari as well. —Aichon— 02:42, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes. That works. Thanks again for all your help. -MHSstaff 05:01, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Hah

Definitely one of the more helpful users around the wiki. Thanks again. --Ash  ^{|  T  |  яя  |} 15:33, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Right now, my head seems to be working in reverse. Whoops. --Ash  ^{|  T  |  яя  |} 15:34, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Eh, if it's any consolation, up seems down to me right now too, since I've been grading ethics essays for the last 3.5 hours and have at least 4 more hours (likely more like 6-8) of it planned for today. Anyway, thanks. I try. :) —Aichon— 15:40, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Oh...Oops

And yet again, you have pointed out that I have missed a spot. I fail. >_< --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 03:25, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Nobody else, including me, caught it either when we checked awhile back. I wouldn't sweat over it. It's hard at first, but then you get the hang of it. I remember the first time that some of us did it after Iscariot left. There were like 4 sysops in IRC, all debating about what needed to be done and none of us wanting to do it. Pretty hilarious. —Aichon— 03:27, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Yer all a bunch of lazy bums! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 03:29, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

And I don't ever want to do it again. We should mete it out as punishment. 03:30, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

It could be a rite of passage for all new sysops. Or perhaps a test of anyone that wants to be a sysop: successfully do so and you'll prove your wiki-fu. —Aichon— 03:32, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

And I seem to be taking steps backwards instead of forward. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 03:37, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Wiki-fu is a journey that begins with but a single step. Make it, and there are...well...a lot to go. And be careful of wading too deep into the drama, otherwise you'll end up fighting off the cannibalistic whales. They're mean suckers since they don't see too well. —Aichon— 03:40, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

I turn my body from the sun. What ho, Tashtego! 03:43, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

chud

If it helps, here's a list of the other enabled scripts I'm using (in the order I have placed them. chud comes directly after UD Zero Out Buttons, by the way)...:

• UD Travel
• ActOnProfile
• UD A-GPS Coordinates
• UD Survivor Aggregator
• UD Item Combiner, Organizer, and Sorter
• UDMap
• UD Quicklinks
• UD Zero Out Buttons
• Mass COntacts
• UD Same Character Highlighter
• Show recovery time for AP in Urban Dead
• UD Radio Accelerator
• Profile Viewer
• DSS Satellite Phone

--•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 19:18, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll look into it on my copy of FF and see if I can come up with an idea of what's up. I don't really check most of my releases in FF, since 99% of the stuff just works in it as well as Safari, but it's possible it's something I miscoded for FF or else something interacting oddly with those scripts. —Aichon— 19:45, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Hey, Aichon. I just noticed something. [1] Take a look at the inventory. Now look through the drop-down list for dropping items. It says I have a Toolbox, but it doesn't show up in my inventory. If I disable the Item Combiner of yours, the toolbox will appear, like seen here: [2]. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 00:24, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I have that script and I do believe it hides certain buttons like spray can and flak jacket. Stuff that wastesAP if clicked on fron your inventory. That's probably it but Aichon could tell you for sure. ~ 00:38, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Yep, Vapor got it. It hides a few buttons that simply waste AP if clicked. It doesn't even get them all honestly, since I was lazy with implementing it, but I was just tired of having these buttons that didn't do anything and took up AP if you mis-clicked. —Aichon— 02:35, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Could really use some help....

I'm really confused on the if then templates, and was hoping you could help me. I'm looking to use the templates to create a chunk of code that would work similarly to the random page feature, but for items underneath my user namespace. Is it possable to do with the if then templates? -Estacado^Talk 23:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

You have run out of Aichon Points
Aichon Points regenerate at the rate of 1 per non-douchebag move. Please come back tomorrow or when you've proven you aren't a douche.

~ 00:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Is that right?
Well, you know what I heard? PISS OFF, that’s what I heard!

-Estacado^Talk 00:48, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I lol'd. I usually call my arbitrary point system just "bonus points", but I might have to nick that from you since it's clever and obvious. —Aichon— 02:39, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm having trouble understanding exactly what you're asking for (I blame it on the lack of sleep and illness...a few hours ago, I was speaking gibberish since I was so tired apparently). Anyway, if what you're trying to do is have a random page/template appear as a chunk of another page in your userspace, you might want to take a look at what Mis has done with his main user page. You can't actually do random, but you can have it vary by date and time. If you can explain to me, in detail, what a working concept would look like to the end user, I can probably give you better instructions for how to do it. —Aichon— 02:39, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Basically, Special:Random, but for my namespace.... ie,.... click the link, and you go to a random subpage of mine. -Estacado^Talk 03:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

No. You can create a link that will appear random, but not a truly random one. You'd need to nest two Switches together, probably CURRENTHOUR and CURRENTMINUTE, although just the latter would probably work on its own. Then list the outcomes for each possibility, badda bing. 03:11, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Yep, Mis is right. Basically, you don't need the if templates at all, and should instead look into the switch one. With this version of the wiki software, there's no way to do truly random stuff like that, but Mis' answer is the best one we have. —Aichon— 03:21, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Cool,...? -Estacado^Talk 03:29, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Possable.,,,! -- LEMON #1 03:36, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

could really use some help,,,,,,,,,,,,.............

I'm really confused on being a decent user, and was hoping you could help me. I'm looking to use the wiki to create helpful information that would work similarly to a normal website, but just for urban dead. Is it possable to do without being a shitcunt? -- LEMON #1 02:14, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

PS I'll spam you for every minute you don't respond. Then when someone tells me not to I'll relentlessly recite lines from Diana from Paul Anka. -- LEMON #1 02:15, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but I have a "no newb" policy on this page, and since you're trying to be polite, it's obvious you have no idea what you're doing around here. Unless you cause a scene right now, you're going to have to leave. I'm taking you to rabies, VD, and Miscondick anyway though. I have principles, after all. —Aichon— 02:44, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Image:I TROL U.jpg

-Estacado^Talk 03:15, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Oh, but that was really f'ing funny! -Estacado^Talk 03:25, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

It wasn't, which is why you're such a pathetic person to watch. Every second you spend on here you think you're hilarious, when you're just projecting a 5 year old making a penis in the sand and laughing hysterically at it. -- LEMON #1 03:27, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Better to be someone ignorant enough to not know any better, than someone smart enough to, and care less. At least I don't instigate. -Estacado^Talk 03:31, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

That for real? 03:33, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Haha yeah fuck off. And of course you don't instigate. -- LEMON #1 03:35, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Oh you're just pissed I can do shit like that, and get away with it. -Estacado^Talk 03:38, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I can't speak for him, but I'm annoyed, not because you get away with it, but because you do it at all. —Aichon— 03:42, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm bound to try it again too... shit like this inspired me the first time... -Estacado^Talk 03:45, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

It was okay. I've never been a big fan of image-based humor, however. There are some that are good, of course, but by and large, I feel that it's overused. —Aichon— 04:17, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

You know what... DDR wins... he's always screwing with me... So.. I'll pull an iscariot and just leave... -Estacado^Talk 03:46, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

You'll never have that man's class. 03:47, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Do it if you want, if the only two options for you are a) be a pest or b) leave the wiki, I'd much rather you leave. This time, I'll be left without regret. -- LEMON #1 04:18, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Humourous suggestions

I was going through the history of our latest n00b's talk page, and noticed that you said that the humourous suggestions edits where in archives, and shouldn't be changed. AFAIK, they may be archived, but are left open for comments/mock votes regardless. After all, it is humourous, and voting is never tallied up and closed -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 09:21 20 December 2010 (BST)

Yeah, I realized that quite a bit after the fact, and you're 100% correct. I had thought the archives weren't supposed to be edited, but yesterday or the day before when I was reviewing his edits, I realized I had made a mistake in saying that when I noticed some text somewhere saying that it was permissible to edit them. Humorous Suggestions have never been a part of the wiki that I've been especially familiar with, since I don't follow them or their proceedings, so I had assumed that they functioned somewhat similarly to the main suggestion system, where once they are done, they're done. I was going to re-review his edits at some point and see if I needed to restore them, but hadn't gotten around to it yet. —Aichon— 18:16, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

No worries. Humourous suggestions is a quiet backwater of the wiki, with no real rules, just common sense, where people just fix things up the way they want without any drama. Doesn't get much press ;) -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 23:15 20 December 2010 (BST)

Hmph

You know, I never thought you were a Knight, although in hindsight it should have really clicked a lot earlier. If not simply for the educated method of posting, then definitely for the white mask and notches in your gun. --Ash  ^{|  T  |  яя  |} 13:52, 24 December 2010 (UTC)