Talk:Yahoomas day

Yahoomas (6/18 until time yet to be determined)

Updating the Page

First Yay! Yahoomas is the best and to everyone who loves Yahoomas

	Merry Yahoomas
	Karek wishes you a Merry Yahoomas. Now go open your harmans and be sure to spread the love, and hugs for everyone!

Second, I have a few things to ad to the page if you don't mind Sweirs, including screenshots and a little flavor. if you would like I could send something to you via talk or forums pm and you could update it yourself. Oh and 6-18 is fine, although I feel Yahoomas gives more flavor, mabey note somewhere that if someone refers to 6-18 they are talking about the First actual day of Yahoomas day, the day which lasts a week plus in which Jolly old Yahoo comes and gives all the good little zombahz their Yahoomas Harmans to open and the zombahz celebrate by hugging and kissing any friends or future friends they can find. A day(week+) in which zombahs spread their love to their neglected harman presents through caroling and their infectious joy.--karek 07:20, 21 June 2007 (BST)

I don;t mind. Its not MY page, its the WIKI's page. And if yu do all that, it will be looking like a good one, at that. ... 13:11, 21 June 2007 (BST)

Added picture, a little flavor. ... 20:48, 21 June 2007 (BST)

I'll add more later.--karek 23:41, 21 June 2007 (BST)

Try adding the one that scweinhund made on the FU forum. that one is so hilarious! The man 20:34, 22 June 2007 (BST)

Change The Name

the name 6-18 sucks. zombies have called it "Yahoomas day" I request that the name can be changed to that. The man 15:55, 20 June 2007 (BST)

No matter to me either way. The typical way to handle such an issue would be to make one title re-direct to the other. As the popular title does seem to be Yahoomas, that should likely be the root page; just write one up, move any info from here you care to keep, and then re-direct this page- or I'll do it once you provide a page for Yahoomas

That does still leave open the question of what to call post 6-18 newbs. I guess for now, "newbs" or just "food" is working OK..._{21:37, 20 June 2007 (BST)} 16:00, 20 June 2007 (BST)

Guys honestly, how can you actually say "6-18" in a sentence...its just...horrible....for example would you rather have"oooh lets go celebrate 6-18" or "oooh lets go celebrate yahoomas" i think the answer is very obvious. anyway.....this thign requires a page like the other guy said....anyway, i'm just a n00b The man 21:38, 20 June 2007 (BST)
also, a post yahoomas person can be named a yahoomaser or a yahoomas n00b.....thats just my opinion The man 21:39, 20 June 2007 (BST)

6-18 rolls off the tongue if you are an American. We've been hearing "9-11" daily now for years, and CB lingo like "10-4, good buddy" and "what's your 20" for years before that. Try saying it with a Texas accent (or southern, at least) - it seems to work best that way. Besides, it never occurred to me there would be cause to CELEBRATE 6-18; I saw it as more of a disaster. Could anybody talk seriously about the dangerous implications of Yahoomas? ... 23:10, 20 June 2007 (BST)

what the heck is so disasterous about yahoomas? (apart from the slight game lag now) Jesus, it seems everytime something good happens to zombies you wiki survivors call it a disaster..... I'f you think its a disaster, please tell me why, I am really intrugued to know why it is. BTW, i must say thanks for starting this page in the first place :) The man 13:19, 21 June 2007 (BST)

Please look at my profile page before calling me a "wiki survivor". I've done MUCH more work for the zombie side than for survivors, and play a zombie-heavy stable of characters.
To my thinking, the effect of Yahoomas is much as if those in charge of the quarantine allowed new humans to freely move into the city without warning them the place still had zombies. Even as a zombie player, I do still consider that a disaster; its just that zombies ENJOY disasters like that! ... 14:01, 21 June 2007 (BST)

As a survivor, I think this is pretty funny. I was wondering why there were so many people outside! :D I think it's a nice treat for the zeds, especially the young ones. It doesn't bother me because, heh, I'm inside behind a cade! I wonder how the Yahoomas boom will eventually effect the overall game. Quite a few new groups, most likely. --James Ennis 01:32, 23 June 2007 (BST)

Additional Content?

Can we get a screenie of the survviors sleeping in the street? This page needs some flavour. And I agree, Yahoomas day has already been coined and is in more use than "6-18er". Plus it has a more Urban Dead feel to it. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 00:45, 21 June 2007 (BST)

Like I said, that's fine by me. Am I supposed to make th new page and re-direct this one? ... 00:52, 21 June 2007 (BST)

How about a Yahoomas Contest?

Nothing fancy. Just submit screenies; the one that shows the MOST survivors standing out in the streets wins, and gets used on the Yahoomas page. The owner of the screenie gets crowned the Yahoomas king (or queen), and rules over the Yahoomas court. ... 13:15, 21 June 2007 (BST)

Haha that'd be awesome. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 18:42, 25 June 2007 (BST)

Aftermath

Obviously, this event was quite a shock to the relatively relaxed community, and rattled quite a few cages (my own included). Perhaps the time has come to step back and assess the damage the Yahoos left in their wake. No matter if the event is voted historical or not, 6-18 is a day we shall not soon forget. --Indio65 01:29, 28 June 2007 (BST)

I'll say its ended up a much bigger "meh" than I expected. There don't seem that many people who stuck around; I guess when people heard "free", they assumed "no effort required". The massive new LEU zombie horde seems the only really game-altering impact Yahoomas might have, and they are basically just Shacknews ii, bigger, longer, and uncut. .^.. 04:12, 28 June 2007 (BST)

First, it's LUE, and I don't think they came because of the Yahoo article. Anyway, it looks like around 2000 people stuck around, which is better then nothing.--Lachryma^☭ 04:41, 28 June 2007 (BST)

Well, at least we have had a nice boost to UD numbers. I expect that 2,000 to drop to around 1,500 and maybe 1,000 regulars after 3 months. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 05:13, 28 June 2007 (BST)

LUE did not come because of the Yahoo article, the timing was incidental. Oh and at least two major zombie groups, the RRF and the Feral Undead gained quite a few members from Yahoomas newcomers.--karek 09:49, 28 June 2007 (BST)

In the long run, a 10% boost to ALL groups stats would be expected, given there seems to have been about a 10% boost to the overall population of "lasting" characters. So its no surprise RRF and FU got a big number of new members. MotA also gained the same 10%; we love having 4 new members, but its not a major event in our history. .^.. 14:19, 28 June 2007 (BST)

Quite a shock to some, perhaps, but others of us have barely felt any impact from the Yahoo thing. Honestly, the average survivor is a trenchcoating retard anyway, so it's hard to notice Yahoo noobs amongst them.--Jiangyingzi 12:20, 29 June 2007 (BST)

If you were a zombie in a nonred suburb it had an effect.--karek 13:52, 29 June 2007 (BST)

The overall effect of Yahoomas so far has been to swell the ranks of the undead. There are actually fewer survivors now than there were in late May, and 3500+ more zombies. I can't see how Indio or anyone else thinks this is a bad thing; more zombies makes the game more fun.--Jiangyingzi 21:15, 3 July 2007 (BST)

I don't want to give all the credit to the Yahoomas presents for turning the tide, several large groups began new offensives during Yahoomas, so far I think something like 5 malls have fallen, 1 to ferals, 1 to MotA, 2 to LUE, and 1 to LUE and RRF. Not only that but MoB and RRF have been touring through opposing sides of the map turning green or yellow suburbs to red and emptying the survivors, even emptying everyone/most of everyone, out of Ridleybank and Stanbury Village, which probably threw the stats some 600+ people. That being said looking throughout forums it seemed only Zombie groups were actually helping the newcomers from Yahoomas. After they killed them multiple members of multiple hordes stayed in the area, tracked down other humans, groaned etc, and dropped them to give the newer players the kills/kill xp. All I've heard from the survivor side was mabey one group who tried to coral the humans indoors and a lot of accusations of Zergers or encouragement to leave them to idle out, no helping, no healing. Just seemed to me Zombie groups were nicer to the new players.--karek 21:29, 3 July 2007 (BST)

Game Stats

Here are a couple of updates I made on the Survivor-Zombie Imbalance page:

May 29, 2007: 20,067 survivors (63%) to 11,375 zombies (37%). 10,839 zombie hunters. This is out of 38,516 active players. For zombies, the trend has been continuously downward throughout the month of May.

July 2, 2007: 19,732 survivors (56%) to 14,923 zombies (44%). 9,367 zombie hunters. Total active players: 41,977. The trend for zombies in June was more or less continuously upward.

So, thusfar it looks like we've retained about 3500 new players, probably most of them Yahoo people (and the rest from the LUE horde). Obviously the great majority of June joiners are active zombies.--Jiangyingzi 21:20, 3 July 2007 (BST)

Mabey it is time to sit back and asses what has happened so far since 6-18 and the beginning of the first Yahoomas(may there be many more).

• 20,000+ new survivors joined the game, about 3,000(approx, check number) have remained in circulation.
• Out of those 20,000 players zombie groups got almost none initially but after the feasting of 6-18 up to the third day of Yahoomas day at which point zombie began getting a fair share of new active zombie players due to frequent and easy feasting and good planning on the parts of higher level zombies for using the low level survivors to level up the new skill-less zombies with relative ease and speed(mostly having to do with weaken/groan tactics, or infections if low on AP) this made most of the new zombie xp kill xp.
• Zombies feast for 14(give or take a few) days straight leveling many new players and setting the groundwork for a zombie push outward.
• Large Zombie groups retain more members than survivor groups on Idle Day, the first day of the last part of Yahoomas Day.
• Another group, completely unrelated to Yahoo or Digg, also came on the first-second days of Yahoomas Day. LUE begins decimating malls one by one and in less than 24 hours is the biggest zombie group in the game, beating out both RRF and FU who had been, and still are, in the middle of an upswing in membership, both hordes leveling out near 200 members while LUE reaches a dizzying 300 members in a time span of 3 days. Almost all are low level but still manage to destroy Ackland Mall in two days.
• RRF and MoB actions throughout Malton pick up pace and intensity as Yahoomas reaches it's mid way point. The Feral Undead spread general chaos, MoTA and EF use their recent upswings in membership and begin assault on targets(not actually sure when MoTA started their campaign, Swiers can provide correstions).
• 24 hours after Ackland Falls Nichols Mall falls to a join strike between the, RRF's Strike Teams(GMT-BC and Gore Corps) and LUE, within 24 hours Nichols is down, in that same span of time Blackmore falls to the RRF's DoHS and AU10 as both the Nichols and Blackmore strike occur within minutes of eachother. 24 hours later Nichols is completely ransacked and Blackmore Building is empty of all life, 24 hours after that Ridleybank is once again empty of barricades, Barhahville turned red.
• Before Idle Day passed LUE and RRF would go on to another siege, this time at Tynte Mall, which again fell in record time. While this is happening Ferals and the Feral Undead seige Lumber mall, Eastonwood Ferals empty and destroy all of Yagoton and Bale Mall, the Minions of the Apocalypse Empty Blesley mall
• During Idle festivities Woodroffe Mall is attacked and begins falling. MoB contiues to spread chaos and havoc by turning whole suburbs in Western Malton Red in a roughly 2 days a suburb while RRF's Group 0 is doing the same in the east.

Be aware that Idle Day is July 3 and the Idle lasts for 3 days. 6-18 is June 18, and Yahoomas lasts roughly 14 days if you don't include Idle Day which is a Post-Yahoomas party. The reason Yahoomas lasted 14 days instead of just 12 is attributed to Digg Day(6-19), June 10 is also a minor holiday in honor of the escapist article, but much like labor day no one really cares about it. Digg Day is named for [this] article link needed for the escapist article

My assessment is that Yahoomas was the first step in the rapidly changing zombie numbers, without Yahoomas it may have happenned but probably no where near as fast, Yahoomas was a strain on everyone but zombies played it better and took better advantage of it. Yahoomas kickstarted the zombie back swing. And LUE will be sure to continue it. Even is LUE didn't join due to the Yahoo article they are still a part of Yahoomas in a very real way. I can only hope next year's Yahoomas is a good as this ones.--karek 05:27, 8 July 2007 (BST)

Input welcome, I updated the page with some general filler which should show what is desired. Digg Day is Diggahkah, June 19th. The three days after Yahoomas ends are known as the Idle-mass and are July 3rd(Idle Day), July 4th(Reminiscence), and July 5th(Rahng aah)--karek 05:47, 8 July 2007 (BST)

Ta-Da! --  T   20:03, 14 August 2007 (BST)

Overhaul

Put the template on the page. This page is in clear violation of NPOV towards zombie-players, and I feel this needs to be rectified. Either the page gets an overhaul or we just call in a delete.--Indio65 03:28, 8 July 2007 (BST)

This is a zombie game, why not give some zombie background for the event ? --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 03:41, 8 July 2007 (BST)

This is a wiki, and ONLY NPOV is tolerated. Until this page reflects this standard, the template remains. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Indio65 (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.

This...is...a...zombie...holiday! This is like saying Barhah is a biased article!--Lachryma^☭ 03:44, 8 July 2007 (BST)

Indeed, this is a humorous article. I see that you are relatively new to the wiki - don't take everything you read as gospel. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 04:04, 8 July 2007 (BST)

Actually it's more that he has a well established and vocal hatred for the Yahoomas event, he has said before on Brainstock and his talk page that he plans to grief Yahoomas players and LUE as long as he is around for no purpose other than they joined around the same time as him. Yahoomas is a zombie holiday, the page is still kinda incomplete and in the works, and is meant to be zombie based. Zombie holiday should be zombie based and that doesn't make it any less Neutral. It's about the culture man, feel the love that is the zombah holidays. Zombies and Humor go hand in hand usually, think square dancing. I will add more later and would like others to as well, as long as it is good faith. Oh and Indigo, just thought I'd mention that NPOV isn't a universal thing on the Urban Dead wiki, it has been allocated to specific pages, those being news pages. POV and opinion are asked for all over the wiki, from arbitration to suggestions. Trenchcoater is a POV viewpoint, so is zombie spying, but both are important in game terminology and without the pages being POV it would not be possible to understand the terminology because of how it is used and developed. Yahoomas is game terminology and this page explains that terminology.--karek 04:17, 8 July 2007 (BST)

Perhaps I do have a POV on "Yahoomas," as you people insist on calling it, but if my POV wouldn't be tolerated on this article then why should yours? That's like saying "The Japanese scored a glorious victory over America in the battle of whatever" is not okay, but saying "The Nazis were evil bastards" is. It makes no sense. NPOV should be everywhere on a wiki except talk and user pages. A wiki is a place for a serious information on a topic, NOT a place for humor. You want to make jokes, do it on a forum.--Indio65 18:52, 8 July 2007 (BST)

I think "The Nazis were evil bastards" would still be considered a POV. I'm sure the Nazis would think differently, seeing their enemies as the evil ones. Why this article is biased, if its considered humorous I don't see the problem, as humour needs to be biased to be funny. It's ok to be funny on the Urban Dead Wiki, this isn't Wikipedia. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 19:30, 8 July 2007 (BST)

Ah, Nazi references...Anyway, there's a neutral explanation on the page, under the heading of 'Glossary'. So it's all good.--Lachryma^☭ 20:12, 8 July 2007 (BST)

Why do civil conversations always have to degenerate into 'Nazi' comments? See Godwin's Law --Ryiis 01:31, 9 July 2007 (BST)

I used an analogy and all you people saw was the word "Nazi."--Indio65 01:38, 9 July 2007 (BST)

It is the simple fact that you used "Nazi" in an analogy, when you could have easily used something else. I happen to find the wikipedia article humorous and interesting, that's all --Ryiis 01:40, 9 July 2007 (BST)

All right, I added the correct template this time. My bad on the last time, I didn't see the POV one the first go round. All right, continue debate.--Indio65 02:16, 9 July 2007 (BST)

Again, this is a zombie holiday. In a game with zombies. Look, we could have this page as, "On 6-18, Yahoo put up an article mentioning UD. Large amounts of new players were soon spotted. They then idled out." or we could leave it as it is, since right now it's A. Funny B. Still informative and C. Not fething biased. Did all those new players affect survivors? No, because most of those new people were on the streets. And what's on the streets? Zombies, getting large amounts of XP from all these people passed out. Therefore, adding a survivor angle to this article would be bad and un-POV, cuz this mostly affected zombie players.--Lachryma^☭ 02:22, 9 July 2007 (BST)

Humorous?

As Karek points out above, a lot of zombies pages are amusing to read, because a lot of zombie culture centers on slapstick comedy, irony, incongruity, vulgarity, or a combination of all those elements. But that alone doesn't put the pages themselves in the humorous category...
Not that I'm complaining in this case. Yahoomas IS one of the funnier zombie terms. I'm just wondering how many other zombie related articles might also end up with that tag, and if its a slippery slope. _. ^. _{. swiers} 05:05, 8 July 2007 (BST)

Next thing you know trenchcoater will be but zombie spy wont. Anyway it should probably be put in a category for game terminology and language, along with other phrases like Barhah, Trenchcoater, Zombie Spy, Meatshield, River Tactics. It's all the same thing, they are all important knowledge to understanding the game and are part of a developing sublanguage in this game. Even sidenames for certain areas should probably be included as articles in some such sections but only if they are actually used. A great example would be Barhahville, Blackmoar(spiteful term), or Barhah Mall/The Mall That Formerly Couldn't Be Named. Especially if tone and association of the term is included(such as Barhahville being a respective and loving term, Blackmoar being a spiteful zombie term, Zombie Spy as paranoia, Zombie Spai as spiteful of Zombie Spy, etc.)h and Yahoomas has now been split up into it's proper subholidays, I didn't include Escapist day because I don't have a link to the article, but I did add Idle-mass and it's subholidays, 6-18, and 6-19.--karek 05:54, 8 July 2007 (BST)

'River Tactics' is not a glossary term, it's a theory, or a plan, or a fething tactic. Also, if you want those 'side names' included in articles, perhaps you should add them.--Lachryma^☭ 06:21, 8 July 2007 (BST)

Which makes it a glossary term, common phrases and terms unique to Urban Dead would be the things I'm talking about and River Tactics are unique to Urban Dead, an outsider won't know what it means, so why not make a category section where new users can go to learn what terms they will be seeing throughout their time here so they can understand them. The reason I don't add category sections and pages with such content is I'm not sure how to do the formatting right and I'm not the most descriptive type. Someone else could easily do it better than I can. P.s. Oh and theories are glossary terms in most cases that I know of.--karek 06:27, 8 July 2007 (BST)

Well, duh, it's so obvious when you put it like that. Sorry! Parachuting is probably the best example of a glossary term/tactic...Anyway, if you click the glossary category link, it'll show you all the glossary terms. Voila! And if you give me a list of the words or 'side names' or whatever, I'd be happy to add them to random articles.--Lachryma^☭ 06:36, 8 July 2007 (BST)

If someone doesn't do it first I'll send you a list of all the terms I can think of, I need sleep now.--karek 06:51, 8 July 2007 (BST)