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Tactical Strike Force

I have talked to the other Generals and we are all in agreement to be allies with you if it is ok with you, I think things will work out better for the both of us since we will be backing each other up. If you want, I could create a forum for both the TSF and Knights Templar to discuss things and talk to each other as far as plans go and so on, the option is up to you. If you have any questions you can email me at Paradox_319@yahoo.com or leave me a personal message on the TSF forum. Thanks again and we will patiently await your decision.

--User:Naniki 02:30, 21 September 2006 (BST)-4th General Of TSF

Sup.

sup guys, we're not in Kempsterbank anymore, fyi.

Love,

Shack Horde.

Neither are we!, fyi. -Ablesentinel 16:29, 10 October 2006 (BST)

LOLWTFBBQ v2.0!

I like how The Knights Templar claimed victory for evicting us from Kempsterbank a week ago. So we're back again, eating your heads and ransacking your suburb. Enjoy the show.


Love,


Shack Horde

Come now, play nice horde. Submitting the facts is one thing, but throwing bricks seems a bit uncalled for. I think the horde already made their point with the first comment. --Kentor 17:20, 3 October 2006 (BST), SNR Zombologist
We shall rescind said bricks (and chip) after you revise your statements to reflect fact, and not wishful thinking. Our battle was neither "violent" nor "ongoing" -- it consisted of a one-night feeding and subsequent departure from your lands. Nor was there any "pushing the zeds back" that has been spoken of. --12:49, 3 October 2006 (EST)
Don't mind him, he doesn't like breathers. Myself I think you were quite tasty. --Jlaw 18:07, 3 October 2006 (BST)
Ummm... if you two would read my signature, I'm the resident Zombologist from SNR, not The Knights Templar. I maintain your wiki pages. --Kentor 18:08, 3 October 2006 (BST), SNR Zombologist
Ah, so you are -- my bad. I went ahead and removed the text that you found uncouth.. stil, I'll play nice again once TK stops misrepresenting the facts. That's the only reason I throw chip. --14:02, 3 October 2006 (EST)
Don't worry, I'm sure you are tasty too!--Jlaw 18:14, 3 October 2006 (BST)
No, he's right, Knights Templar had absolutely nothing to do with the Shackhorde leaving Kempsterbank. --Claym 18:32, 3 October 2006 (BST)
I don't disagree with that point, I just dislike, "I hope you're enjoying wallowing in your own delusional inefficacy." It seems rather uncivil. --Kentor 18:35, 3 October 2006 (BST), SNR Zombologist
You should have said, "WHY YOU THROW CHIP?"--Jlaw 18:38, 3 October 2006 (BST)
True... I missed a great opportunity there. --Kentor 19:37, 3 October 2006 (BST), SNR Zombologist

Just wanted to say that we never directly said we pushed you out. Just that we had pushed a lot of the horde out and that we were making progress against the hordes. -Poodle of doom

Just wanted to say nice job on mcneil towers!--VitorBelfort 10:04, 6 November 2006 (UTC)


Tactical Area Rescue has moved a team up to your area in hopes to establish an alliance with you. we hope to help you with any problem we can and would like to help you fix up your suburb to it's original state. if you would like an alliance please post in our talk area

Sharline Jade


It's nice to see we have become allies here is our forum site: http://z13.invisionfree.com/Tactical_Area_Rescue

Pulling out

Tactical Area Rescue will be pulling out officialy on october 27. we wish you luck in keeping your suburb. I don't know how much help we were but we hope to work better next time. Don't forget if you ever need anything don't be afraid to give us a call or if you need to lye low for awhile come on down. May the south Rise again

Ahhhhhh TAR must you really leave us? It was nice having you here. Thanks for helping us. :)

--Silkentresses 16:16, 26 October 2006 (BST)


Some of us are staying around for a little longer then that but we have pressing issues back home that need attention. if you ever need to contact us our frequency is 26.95MHz.

McZeds?

Greetings Knights, this is Klentis Maccabee from the Wykewood McZeds chain. I felt a great disturbance in the force and, upon checking, noticed that your promising franchise in Kempsterbank has been wiped from the face of the McZeds registry. An unfortunate closing due to relentless zombie assault, or a prankster pulling down your green arches in the middle of the night, I do not know. I thought it my duty to bring this to your attention, however, and salute you with my burger cape should this mark the end of your affiliation. --Klentis Maccabee 18:23, 27 October 2006 (BST)

What exactly is it that you are babling about on my wiki page? - Poodle of doom


Thank you Klentis Maccabee for bringing this to our attention. I have taken the liberty of fixing the problem and I'm proud to say we are back up and running under new management. -Ablesentinel 21:21, 3 November 2006 (UTC)


I still fail to understand what exactly it was that you were looking to accomplish. Perhaps Able could explain this on the group list to me please? - Poodle of doom

A Semi-Serious Message

Cookie.jpg A FREE COOKIE
Labine50 has given Knights Templar a cookie for running so damn many hospitals. Thanks.

--Labine50 MH|ME|P 18:51, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the Cookie. Just one quetion,.... Where's our milk? 'Cause if you give the Knights Templar a cookie, they'll want a glass of milk! -Poodle of doom


Milk.gif A Free Glass of Milk
Labine50 has given Knights Templar a glass of milk for {{{reason}}}.

--Labine50 MH|ME|P 03:25, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Ghetto Cow says...

Thank you for your lovely comments! We try our best to slap together a nice group page. Your kind welcome to Malton is a litte...late, but no matter! You guys seem like a really organized, effective group, so we hope you hold your nice suburb, stay safe, and keep working together so well!--Lachryma 04:49, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. We hope you do well in yours as well.... if you ever need a hand,.... maybe we can help. - poodle of doom

Ally request

Why of course we'll be allies with you nice people! That's a great...oh wait, we were supposed to reply on our talk page. Oh well, life goes on. Anyway, we would be proud to have such fine allies, and in addition we invite you guys to join in the fun of Caiger Mall, which currently has 200 zombies attacking its NT. Its a siege worthy of legend, and we could use some more warm bodies! Moving along, we will put your group as an official ally, and we wish you luck and safe hunting!--Lachryma 05:01, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Guys,.... I will inform the group, however we're stationed in Kempsterbank, and I think we're going to be stationary there for quite some time. - Poodle of doom


Recruitment add

Your add excedes the word limit of 200 words by a considerable amount... Please adjust it apropriatly or I will do it for you. Conndrakamod TDHPD CFT 21:43, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I will see what I can't do to take care of that right away. Thanks for the update! :) -Poodle of doom
I think I have it taken care of. If there are any more issues, feel free to post here, or contact me dirctly. You can email me at: Urban_Deads_Knights_Templar-owner@yahoogroups.com - Poodle of doom

Brothers in Arms

Since Friday the 13th, the Knights Templar have been persecuted, another ally may be exactly 

what you need to tip the scales. In the same light, another enemy may do just the same. We, the Hellfighters, have commandeered the Jillard Building as our HQ. We wish to establish peaceful relations in Kempsterbank but a HQ was required. Knights Templar, you are either with us or against us, so I suggest that you allow our operation in the Jillard Building.From one survivor to another, I thank you.

Sincerely,
The Hellfighters
It is advisable to make peace, and not war. You're welcome to fight at our side, but we shall not be bullied. We are in tight alliance with a great many groups,... most of whom, could dismantle you single handedly. You MAY use the Jillard Building, and need not ask our permission. However, I will advise you again that it is simpler, and more conducive to whatever goals you may have, or take up in the future, to make allies,... not enemies.--Poodle of doom 23:04, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

This is ridiculous. People are fighting, dying, and mocking zombies here at Caiger Mall and you survivors are at each others throats in your safe suburb?! What is wrong with you insane people? Hellfighters, you should have said you were going to operate in Jillard, and that you share the same survivor goals of the Knights. Poodle, you should not be throwing idle threats around. It is impossible to 'dismantle' a group, and any attempts might lead to the Hellfighters becoming a zombie group dedicated to eating you. So work together, keep your suburb safe, and don't even think of starting a PK war. That sound good?--Lachryma 00:22, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


That is our mission. To work togethor with other groups. We don't mind sharing. But due to the decision I and my council made, I have only one thing to say to the Hell Fighters: MOVE TO A DIFFERENT BUILDING! We came here when zeds ruled the place and fought them off... tried to fend off shacknews,.... then our allies came and gave us a hand pushing them out and cleaning up. Then, all of a sudden,... Out pops this group of freeloaders telling us what we will and won't do. What we will, and won't give them,... and give us the ultimatum of being enemies, and fighting over it?! What gives? Not to mention sleeping in resource buildings is stupid as can be,... Everyone in Kempsterbank agrees NOT to use resource building as HQ's. Also they'll need to follow the barricade plans too. Every other group helped us make it, and helps us enforce it. Along with keeping our radios, which we ourselves placed, to the Kempsterbank freq, of 27.55. All I have to say is "may their god help them be mindful of the toes they step on today,for they may be connected to the rumps that they'll have to kiss tomarrow!"--Poodle of doom 01:16, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
well put. though we don't like wars ourselves my group and it's allies have the same understanding. we build wyke hills back from the ground up with their help, and you can do the same just give it a chance and talk things out instead of just demanding what you want, it never ends good when groups do that. please try to talk this out. let us not forget this is humans versus zombies not humans versus humans.--Sharline Jade 01:30, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
To quote you Sharline Jade, well put. I don't want to fight them. Nor will I unprovoked. I just don't think its fair for everyone else to go out and do all the work, just to have some Bimbo group from next door come in telling you what to do. We don't mind sharing,... but they need to find some other building to use. HQ's are just about as dangerous as resource buildings. And to have a resource building, that doubles as a HQ,.... not a good combination. They need to move. --Poodle of doom 02:14, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
You have made an unwise decision- we did not know that Poodle of Doom owned an entire suburb. Unfortunately for you, we are not freeloaders nor newbies. We are survivors who want to lead instead of mooching off of another. You tookover a random building and that's what we wanted to do. Mr. Poodle, how would bolstering your defences and manpower be a threat to you? But, we see how it is. You would rather be "the head honcho" and make fun of us.
Your fellow survivors,
The Hellfighters

You guys are not very diplomatic...There's one indicator of newness. Your rather empty group page, lack of profile links, and utter disregard to manners also indicate a high level of newbie-ness. There's nothing wrong with that, and I'd be more then willing to help you guys slap together a better page, tell you about wiki stuff, and help you get settled somewhere...but only if you clean up your act and stop trying to piss people off. Ship up or ship out, in essence.--Lachryma 04:58, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Ever think that the non-descript page was deliberate? We know everything about you and you know nothing about us.

Isn't insulting players and lying about supposed epic battles much more of a newbie thing to do? We commend you Lachryma as one of the few, level-headed survivors in this zombie wasteland. Mr. Poodle on the otherhand, was given too much power too fast. He has taken credit for things that he did not do. Take a good look at diplomacy Lachryma, for that is the reason why the zombies will level Mr. Poodle's suburb.

Your fellow survivors,
The Hellfighters

Um...okay...All the zombies where exactly? Is the RRF coming to town? Mall Tour '07? The 200 zombies outside Caiger? You guys are aware that Kempsterbank is zombie free, right? And I have trouble believing that your wiki page is almost blank because of some brilliant plan. Why make a Myspace account about your group then neglect the wiki page? And FYI, putting a space in front of a line makes this huge gray box, which is ugly. Anyway, if you don't like the Knights, their leader, or their style, then hit the road. There are plenty of places in Malton where you can actually fight zombies and make a difference. Oh yeah, start signing your posts by putting ~~~~ after whatever you have to say. Learn a touch about the wiki and maybe you guys will get some respect around here.--Lachryma 20:46, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I think at this point, if you think you can take us, go right on ahead! I'll let my group know. We won't strike first. However,.... be warned, our allies, and we, the Knights Templar won't go easily, or without making you, in essence, Permantly Dead. You demand of me, and I demand back. Please move. If you wish to take up arms over it I will notify my group. In essence,... Bring it on @#&^$*%!!! --Poodle of doom 01:10, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Mr.Poodle, we have decided that we are not interested in a zombie free town. In the quest for glory, we will march north towards Caiger Mall to end the stalemate. You need not worry about the Hellfighters again as we head towards the zombie lines.

Your fellow survivors, --Gehennanow 04:36, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Finally, the drama ends. No thanks to you, Poodle. Anyway, glad this didn't end in bloodshed. You know, there is a zombie apocalypse going on...--Lachryma 05:01, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for understanding,... I however wish to extend my condolences to your group. You are welcome to stay in Kempsterbank, however, we ask that you use a different building. That's all we ever really wanted. Our blessings are with you, if you travel north, or if you chose to stay. Just bear in mind my request, and that it is not a request. At this time, I would like to offer you safe harbor in our neighborhood for the time being, so that you may grow your group to substantial numbers. However, if you wish to decline, I can understand. I am willing to negotiate with you, and allow your group to maintain vigilance over half our suburb if you would like, until your members and group are strong in number and level. Please cosider my offer, and respond here. --Poodle of doom 05:12, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
After blacking out half of your city, we have agreed to disagree. We ask that you stop insulting our group. The difference between us is that you have everything to lose and we don't. We accept your gracious offer but it does not mean that we will be subject to ridicule. Meat shields or not, we will reorganize and then head towards Caiger Mall. By the way, do not take credit for Lachryma's diplomacy, we would have fought you to the death if it wasn't for her. All in all, we appreciate your offer and will embrace it with open arms.
Your fellow survivors, The Hellfighters

P.S. Can you hear me now?

I don't take credit for anything except wanting to kill all your groups chars! Can you hear me now? --Poodle of doom 03:55, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh God, don't start it again. Look, a zombie just ate your friend. Run and revive him, and let these guys go their free way!--Lachryma 04:41, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your hospitality Poodle of Doom, but we are headed towards zombie infested areas to clean them up.
May your path be legendary, --Gehennanow 20:36, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Hello from the BK's

Hi i'm Vidad12 leader of the Black Knights and i was wondering if you wanted to get some sort of alliance going as we both have the same goals, protect people and destroy Zeds, me and the rest of the Black Knights, about 4 of us but where all spread about Malton trying to get recruits, are based at St Lukes Cathedral in Shearbank. Where trying our best to protect it and could use your help. Also whats your veiw on the Church of the Resurection. We hate there guts or whats left of them. Email me at viadhaughton@yahoo.co.uk if you need anything. --Vidad12 10:44, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

The Randoms

Request for Aid - Feb '07

Knights Templar, this is user:ZaqWer of The Randoms. We are currently engaging zombie hordes to our immediate west in Spicer Hills and Williamsville. Dartside to our northwest is also heavily infested. If things are relatively under control in Kempsterbank, we would appreciate if you could spare a contingent to fight the growing threat to the west, hopefully preventing it from spreading in our direction. If so, you should be able to meet ample justice on zombies in Williamsville, aiding our ally M.S.L.F. Thank you. --ZaqWer 06:18, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Got your PM on our forums. I responded there with more detail. Glad you can help. --ZaqWer 16:08, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
FYI, we have pulled back from Spicer Hills back to Buttonville. Zombies from Williamsville are encroaching from the west. So, you should be able to meet up with us in western Buttonville. --ZaqWer 01:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Blood And Water

Though I'm not with the KT anymore, I still remember where I cut my teeth. My allegiance shall not fail. My new group ACRID and I consider you de facto allies and we give you precedence with all our services. Feel free to call upon us if ever the need shall arise. -Ablesentinel 17:52, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Revivification Points

Your group/organization are attributed on the List of Revivification Points for maintaining the following RP(s) whose status have not been updated recently and are scheduled for deletion from the list:

  • Kempsterbank Ebbutt Road 57, 76

Please make sure to update the status and timestamp of your RP(s) at least once every two weeks. Thank you! --Gilant talk-DEM 23:11, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Be Vigilant

Dear KT, thanks for all your help in Shackleville, however I am afraid that it is being overrun. I am telling you this so that you be conscious of zombie traffic along the northern border of Kempsterbank. If you want to help, there are zombies awaiting a revive at Swaffield plaza in Shackleville. Hopefully, the zombie scum will rot in hell before they reach your suburb. --Gehennanow 23:49, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Question From an Ally

So, whatcha been up to? Lot's of bad feth going down in your suburb? Or is it nice there?--Lachryma 19:20, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Well for a while we've been holding our own with a small horde of zombies who have invaded from the north in Shackleville. They mostly attacked and killed the wounded in our six hospitals and things are only now starting to calming down. And there are still about 20 of 'em holding in the area of our most distant hospitals, and safe houses around there are only so-so at best. So we've mostly gathered around our central HQ to keep the peace around where most of the 'burbs population now resides and sent a few brave members to help the KNW retake the hospital and convince the zeds that leaving might be a good idea. Oh and there has been massive amounts of over barricading which take time and AP to rectify since we don't want our 'burb to turn into another Wray Heights, especially with our heavy sprinkling of Entry points all over. JD 04:45, 28 March 2007 (BST)
Well, that sounds very fascinating...especially since you guys have lived in a safe suburb for ages. Glad to know you had some excitement!--Lachryma 04:50, 28 March 2007 (BST)
Yeah, it was boring as hell. Things were so slow we were eventually able to get the whole neighborhood on power (with radio transmitters). But now things are hot again and its bringing our message board back to life, and reviving some of our people that had just lost interest. Post Script: Damn that was a fast response -JD 05:10, 28 March 2007 (BST)

Hail from the Malton Mob

G'day to you laddies, I'm DragonRagnarok, underboss of the Malton Mob. As I'm sure you've noticed we've moved into Club Crook. We do not have any expansionist tendencies, we just needed a safe retreat from the periodic zombie waves that infiltrate Shackleville. I must say your revive point is fantastic. So think of this as our formal offer of a friendly coexistence. Yes, we are mainly a PKer group, but we do not kill randomly. We have specific targets and I insure that none of them will be Knights Templar, unless provoked (which I don't foresee happening). Cheers! --DragonRagnarok 15:07 EST, 4 Apr. '07

P.S. As a gesture of good faith, drinks at any of our clubs are 25% off for Knights Templar.
As far as I know you guys have never harmed us or our allies, and we have been needing a solution to our GK and RK problems, so welcome to Kempsterbank. We'll help you guys get back on your feet and on top of the club scene in both our burbs. JD 22:10, 4 April 2007 (BST)

requesting revive

Greetings not-so-gentle knights, your tinyurl to request a revive was not working. While still human i found a radio set to your frequency. Something in the far reaches of my now-rotting brain has guided me to Ebbutt road. Something still human that wants escape from this lifeless hell...so the corpse waits to be revived. Or more probably, head-shotted for more XP. Anyway, thanks for your time & in most likelihood, bullets. Cheers! the Zombie Magnum PI

Your a Rotter. Your stuck being dead. Live with it. We don't run a rotter clinic here! --Poodle of doom 16:53, 9 April 2007 (BST)
Somebody else already did it, so neener neener. Also, learn the difference between "your" and "you're". --Magnum PI 21:04, 13 April 2007 (BST)

Revive please

If you could be so kind, please revive me at ebbutt road (57,76), ,my number is 803144. Thanks for all the help!

Ah, I hadn't noticed you post, if you are still here, I'll stick ya in the morning Nick. JD 03:42, 30 April 2007 (BST)


Havok Storm you pompous git

I don't mind logging in to find myself dead, it's part of life in Malton, but scanning down to see how it happened, I see this little speech...

"You are being executed for being a zombie spy in accordance to orders by KT authority. May God have mercy on your soul for I will not"...

No, Havok Storm, my character Mrrrrgggg is not a zombie spy. He follows the dual nature policy, because the game is more fun that way. Rest assured that should I ever find you in a revive queue, your plaintiff Mrh?'s will go unheeded. And now there's one more zombie in your suburb, too, don't forget that... what a fine day's work, and a wise use of bullets. --Cman yall 11:01, 7 May 2007 (BST)

151st Brigade

Hello I am B0ba Fett, Leader of the 151st Brigade, And I was wondering if the Templars and the Brigade could be allies in this crisis.

Please message me back on my talk page

B0ba Fett 01:42, 9 May 2007 (BST)

Consider yourself contacted on your talk Page.... --Poodle of doom 02:36, 9 May 2007 (BST)

Help From Ghetto Cow?!

Sorry, we're too busy having fun (*cough*) in Molebank, so we can't save you from Jorm's MOB...sorry!--Lachryma 15:18, 15 May 2007 (BST)

Damn, thanks anyway, We'll just have to stick it out on our own then. JD 21:49, 16 May 2007 (BST)

Just a Bit of Clarification

The Militant Order of Barhah was merely passing through your suburb on the way to Ridleybank. We did so slowly, lightly cracking buildings and groaning to ferry feral zombies around.
We had no intention of applying our full assault onto Kempsterbank, nor did we even notice your supposed "defeat" of us. In fact, I, the leader of the MOB, was totally unaware of your existence until someone pointed me to the statements on your group page. If we had decided to strike your suburb, you would know (ask the people of Kinch Heights what that is like).
In short, feel free to claim that you "defeated" the MOB, but know in your heart of hearts that you were only privy to the merest of shadows of Barhah and were spared only because we had more pressing issues. Rest assured that we could have annihilated you from the face of the earth if we chose.--Jorm 01:43, 24 May 2007 (BST)

Feel free to come back for a rematch.... :) --Poodle of doom 03:51, 25 May 2007 (BST)
Now Now PoD, let us be civil. To put it in other words, try putting out some press releases to the masses so that clarifications such as these are not necessary. We barely even know who you are, what you do, or when you move away. Geez, clandestine groups can be so touchy when things are said and yet do nothing to prevent such things by telling their own side of the story. JD 04:46, 25 May 2007 (BST)
Well, we just cleared the Blackmore Building - 100 breathers - in 36 hours, soup-to-nuts. So we have a bit of an idea of what we're dong. The MOB was formed by several members of the original RRF War Council (myself, Beauxdeigh, Grim, Dangermouse) as well as older members of the Minions of the Apocalypse (Tymberwlf, Stroth, Toben). We're not very clandestine; we're just kind of quiet. Not of out of any intent for secrecy, just, you know. We're zombies. We kill things. It's not news when we do. If that makes sense.--Jorm 07:02, 25 May 2007 (BST)
Hey, I hear a RRF strike team AND the Papa of the RRF were at Blackmore too! No hogging all the credit!--Lachryma 07:10, 25 May 2007 (BST)
No; AU10 was hitting other buildings in an attempt to cut off escape routes. While it is true that they hit Blackmore on the first night of landing, they did so at low strength and low AP. Murray was striking with the MOB, but I don't remember if he was doing so as a member of the MOB (he is one, and a Brigadier) or as the RRF Papa; I forget which character he had there (you'd have to ask him). I'm not trying to disrespect AU10 or the RRF or the Feral Undead or any other group that had members there - not by any stretch. But we did the heavy lifting; we opened the 'cades, we did the bulk of the killing. It's not a question of "credit," anyway; he asked what we had done, and I was merely pointing out our most recent accomplishment.--Jorm 09:03, 25 May 2007 (BST)
I'm a feral who was at Blackmore before the MOB dropped by and I will verify Jorm's account of what took place there. A number of us had been sieging the place for weeks to little avail before the MOB showed up. Once they took the wheel Blackmore was cracked in no time. The defenders there were mostly high level and included a significant LCD presence. None of it mattered...they were swept aside almost effortlessly. No disrespect to the Knights, I'm sure you guys know what you're doing, but if the MOB had seriously gone after Kempsterbank you certainly would've felt it. Hopefully you will get the chance to scrap with them for real sometime; I expect everyone would have fun.--Jiangyingzi 18:30, 25 May 2007 (BST)
I think Murray was there in person. Anyway, that's absolutely fascinating. Woo for the MOB, filling Shacknew's shoes and honoring their legacy!--Lachryma 07:08, 26 May 2007 (BST)
I wouldn't call it "filling" rather than "reclaiming." Shack wasn't the first horde to do stuff like this, you know.--Jorm 07:12, 26 May 2007 (BST)
Of course, but Shacknews burst on the scene by finally killing Blackmore, despite other's efforts, which may sound familiar...--Lachryma 07:25, 26 May 2007 (BST)