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:::...Are there any other details you guys are gonna give out that I purposely left unsaid in hopes of using it as a trump card should the case go forward? -_- --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 17:30, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::...Are there any other details you guys are gonna give out that I purposely left unsaid in hopes of using it as a trump card should the case go forward? -_- --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 17:30, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
I will argue case for Axe Hack too {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 02:45, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
I will argue case for Axe Hack too {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 02:45, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Not I. As I said I'll be impartial. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>17:41, 26 February 2012 (UTC)</sub>


==[[User:Sexualharrison|Sexualharrison]] vs [[User:Generaloberst|Generaloberst]]==
==[[User:Sexualharrison|Sexualharrison]] vs [[User:Generaloberst|Generaloberst]]==

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While the wiki community attempts to work on the basis of encouragement and cooperation, there are occasions where wiki users find themselves unable to reach accord. In the event of this happening, the Arbitration Team may be called upon to intervene, and attempt to find a reasonable compromise that, while perhaps not satisfying both parties, may at least assist in defusing the situation, thanks to the unbiased third party.

Guidelines for Arbitration Requests

In assisting in Arbitration, we generally suggest that both parties agree to the Arbitration. This is not, by any means, a requirement, but we do require that both parties be represented in proceedings.

Any Arbitration request should provide at least the following:

  • The aggrieved parties. Either person vs person, or [list of people] vs [list of people].
  • The reason for the arbitration. This should very specifically be without reference to people, as that information has already been provided. It should be a short paragraph indicating the causes of the aggrievement, and why both parties feel it requires arbitration
  • Any pages affected by the aggrievement. This should be a simple list of links.

Once the Arbitration commences, the Arbitrator will request statements from all parties involved. Any evidence to back up one's statement should be provided in link form. Each party will then have an opportunity to rebut their opponent's statement. After these two steps, the Arbitrator will then consider the case, and reach a conclusion, and determine the outcome that is required. It's the duty of the Arbitrator to move a case he accepted to a subpage of UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration, and to update the status of the arbitration case in the Arbitration Cases in Progress section.

As a note, by requesting an Arbitration, all parties are thus obliged to accept the outcome of the Arbitration. Not doing will be considered Vandalism, and such vandalism attempts will be treated as if the vandal has already received two warnings.

After the Arbitration is over, it will then be moved to an archive page. As publicly accessible pages, they may be used to establish precedent in further, applicable cases.

Current Arbitrators

For guidelines on how to arbitrate, see Arbitration Guidelines.

The following users have placed their hand up as users who are willing to be contacted to act as an Arbitrator. The role of Arbitrator is not restricted to the Administration Team; any user can be contacted as an Arbitrator (even if not listed below) and use this page for the arbitration, so long as both parties agree to the Arbitrator. Users who wish to place their hand up as an Arbitrator should place their name below on the list, using *{{usr|YourUserPage}}

Also note that not all listed Arbitrators are active on the Wiki.

Volunteer Arbitrators in Alphabetical Order

Arbitration Cases Currently Under Consideration

Administration Notice
Use this header to create new arbitration cases. Once all sides have chosen an arbiter, move the case to a sub-page of UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration and update its status in the Arbitration Cases in Progress section.


User:Axe Hack vs User:Krazyxman

Krazyxman has been adding POV speculation onto the Piñata page, claiming himself as the undisputed record holder for the most piñatas ever created. As this is just speculation, and I don't really care whether he does hold the most piñatas or not, a personal record is not really something that should be on the actual page itself. This record has been removed from the page numerous times, and he has been left a memo on his talk page about it. What I am hoping to acquire out of this Arbitration case is whether or not Krazyxman's record should be allowed a spot on the piñata page or not. On the account that it is something that should not be on the page, I request that Krazyxman refrain from re-adding his record onto the page.

Users I will not accept as Arbitrators include:

I am not accepting the above users to arbitrate because they too have removed Krazyxman's record before, and the validity of their neutralness are in question.

Also, I request that this case be handled and reviewed by a panel of no less than three (3) arbitrators, and no more than five (5) arbitrators. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:29, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

I'll do it.--User:Sexualharrison23:13, 24 February 2012 (bst)

Me, too! --Bad Attitude Kirsty K.C. R&D d.b.a. Org XIII 23:47, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

I think this is a great case for arbitration and I offer to arbitrate. ~Vsig.png 02:12, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Let's face it. This is the most straight forward case this wiki has seen in years. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 02:15, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
It fits the classic eidt conflict type of dispute that arbitration was meant to solve. As straight forward as it may seem, I'll be a completely unbiased arbitor. Is it really necessary to have an arbitration panel? It would be handled much more smoothly I think if both parties agree to a single person. ~Vsig.png 02:37, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
I trust the two arbitrators you have to work with, if Krazyxman accepts you, will be able to discuss this case to the fullest extent and come to an agreement both parties can agree upon. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 03:02, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Yet in your previous statement you said you consider this to be the most straightforward case in recent years. I'm not as concerned about the colaboration efforts needed for what you're suggesting as I am the need to go through lengthy arbitrator choosing process. Again, I ask is it really neccessary or will you agree to a single arbitrator? ~Vsig.png 03:31, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
I will accept a single arbitrator only if most users who offer to arbitrate isn't exactly the ideal arbitrator for this case (Sorry, Kirsty and Harrison. As much as I'd love for you two to arbitrate, I just don't think neither of you is the ideal arbitrator for this type of case). --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 03:43, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Then I'm afraid my offer will need to come with an expiration date. If neither party can agree on between 3 and 5 arbitrators or at least agree to use a single arbitrator within 10 days I will withdraw my offer to arbitrate this case. ~Vsig.png 03:55, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Inb4 Ross arbitrates. Also, I'd like to register my anger at the flagrant and outrageous violation of my beautiful red link and the creation of my user page by Krazyxman.--Shortround 10:49, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

i think you should start a vandal case against him in defense of your red ink!! MOAR RED TAPE!--User:Sexualharrison15:08, 25 February 2012 (bst)
Offers --Rosslessness 15:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Here is the deal. It is not speculation because I have solid proof by means of screenshots for each one I am claiming. If I were claiming on the wiki page that I have over 50 pinatas (which I do) then it would be speculation because I have no proof. I displayed as you can see on the discussion page long ago the post regarding my pinatas and have been doing this for a long time since I have been playing the game. I am always honest about everything I do. The reason I decided to put my pinatas on the page is because of the PERSONAL Red Rum statistic that is located on the additional information section already. If you want to say that no personal information is allowed in the official wiki then that should include personal guild/clan information as well. If that is the case and both my own and the Red Rum statistic were removed, then I would agree with the arbitration decision (if that is indeed the decision). To keep one form of "speculation" and not the other though is ridiculous at best. If I have made some mistakes on this wiki at all it is because I am new to using this, but that does not mean I can not contribute if I learn and implement things properly. I don't even know how the arbitration process works to be honest so whoever is going to decide can read this and decide, but I think my point makes perfect sense. You either have personal "speculative" statistics or you don't. Very simple. If someone were to provide proof of more pinatas I would gladly remove my addition. --KRaZyXmAn 22:48, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
You're wrong. At least in any claims of equivalence or relevance. Red Rum's portion is on there because it's relevant to the history of pinatas strategic use, you claim to being the top pinata'er is just self promotion. You've also had this removed an ungodly amount of times now by a massive number of people and should, at this point, just be grateful you're not getting A/VB escalations since it's more or less clear that it's been made as clear as possible that what you're adding does not belong on the page. Very simple.--Karekmaps 2.0?! 14:04, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Objection!.gif OBJECTION!
This user has an objection.

This case is over before we could even agree on an Arbitrator! Your simple solution, I will settle for. You want evidence someone has more than 18 documented piñatas? Fine, I'll show you some evidence. TAKE THIS! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:12, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

I don't think this will help things considering he thinks the only reason he can't have his comment on there is verifiability apparently. It's not, his problem is relevance, which it completely lacks. Even if he does have a gajillion more than everyone else(and at 50 I guarantee he doesn't) it's not informative to the history or nature of this action. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 14:04, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
^Yup. And as soon as KrazyXman documents more pinatas than anyone else on the wiki, he'll be back. There's middle ground here if arbitration is allowed to go forward. ~Vsig.png 17:27, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
...Are there any other details you guys are gonna give out that I purposely left unsaid in hopes of using it as a trump card should the case go forward? -_- --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 17:30, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

I will argue case for Axe Hack too DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 02:45, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Not I. As I said I'll be impartial. ~Vsig.png 17:41, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Sexualharrison vs Generaloberst

Harrison has asked me to deal with this for him, and should soon pop up to confirm that I can represent him as wiki-lawyer.

The deal is essentially that Harrison is fed up with constantly reverting Generaloberst's talk page spam, and wants him restrained from doing so.

That is about the most straightforward application of Arbies that there is, so we should be over with it quickly. Any applicants? -- Spiderzed 21:48, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

I would love to but it's pretty obvious who'd say no. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 00:07, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

DDR would be acceptable to me. -- Spiderzed 11:44, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

yes, i asked SZ to take care of this for me. thanks man.--User:Sexualharrison02:14, 15 December 2011 (bst)

WANTS TO STOP POSTING ON TALK PAGE? GUESS WHAT? GUESS WHAT? /REJECT EVERYONE. /CASE CLOSED. DED WINER! It's fun being beaten around with your own tricks, aye? User:Generaloberst/s 11:24, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Actually wait. I'll accept Spider if Harrison puts a swastika (without a line through it, just a nazi swastika) on his userpage and leaves it there indefenitely. User:Generaloberst/s 11:32, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
We don't necessarily need your participation to carry an Arbies case through. You'll only hurt your own defense by rejecting everyone. -- Spiderzed 11:44, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
You can't accept or decline spiderzed as he is representing SH by the looks of it. I'll be happy to arbitrate on behalf of oberst if things on his side go awry, I just would be happy to do anything really. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 13:35, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
w00t?!?! DDR is offering to be my lawyer? User:Generaloberst/s 15:07, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
If yes, then I'll accept. Just to see Spiderzed killing DDR ingame for "affilating with zergers" <3<3 User:Generaloberst/s 15:17, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Yeah why not, hey. I'll do my best, no guarantees on a win though, obviously DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 14:01, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Sure, go ahead. I accept. User:Generaloberst/s 15:11, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
DDR, are you arbitrating or lawyering for General? Not sure which of either you plan to do. -- Spiderzed 22:16, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Either is something I'm fine to do and is something I'll do to the best of my ability. Arbitrating would probably be preferred because it would realistically take less actual work on my behalf (representing oberst will take up much more time to attain precedents and establish arguments etc.) but I haven't been accepted to arby by both parties, only represent Oberst in the case. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 11:40, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
I'd accept you as an arbitratror. -- Spiderzed 22:16, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
If there is one thing I am that's neutral...neutral means being a prick, right? Anyway, I would be happy to arbitrate. --Kirsty Cotton Org XIII 22:37, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
But you're not listen as an available arbitrator. User:Generaloberst/s 15:29, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
Any user can arbitrate. You are not required to be on the list. -- Spiderzed 16:02, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
4real? well, allow me ...i genuinely dislike both of these kids ...my ruling will be unbiased & ethical ☺ Son of Sin 17:16, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
I reject. I doubt you know the well-established precedent in cases like this well enough. -- Spiderzed 22:16, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Ok I don't exactly understand what's going on. Does DDR, as my lawyer, have to accept or reject now? User:Generaloberst/s 11:16, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
Honestly? No idea but I'd assume you still pick your preferred arbitrator DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 04:48, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Sure, you can be the arbitrator too, I accept. User:Generaloberst/s 11:47, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
@Spidezed ...but Vapor does and he's my legal aid ...my wit + his knowledge is like Perry Mason & Jack McCoy, brilliant TV lawyers Son of Sin 11:40, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
Pssh, you don't know about presidents like I do. This case is a clear Grover Cleveland. --Kirsty Cotton Org XIII 01:08, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

I'll do it.. but I'll let you know right now... there will be no happy medium... 2 men enter, 2 men and a baby leave. Only one of you will survive my arbitration ruling, and that will be based on sound logic presented in the case, and bonus points based on an arbitrary system that has nothing to do with the arbitration by meeting certain "achievements" within your arguments. Due note, if you mention your love for twilight, you are an automatic loser.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 17:41, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Suggest archiving this, as nothing's happening with it?--Shortround 12:19, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

how about minding you're own fucking business and don't comment or edit shit that you have absolutely nothing to do with.--User:Sexualharrison13:39, 18 January 2012 (bst)
Sorry. I just used to edit on wikipedia so I'm used to admin pages having a much quicker turnover. I wouldn't have said anything if I knew this was still an ongoing issue. ;P --Shortround 16:21, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
Arbitration here isn't for solving problems, it's usually just used for scoring points or something. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 20:06, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
I used to edit wikipedia and listen to rap music. But then I took an arrow to the knee. Seriously, there is no way that Shortround guy can be 18 or older yet. Judging from the contents of his post. And if he is then I step into a gas chamber myself. Stupid clown. Sieg, User:Generaloberst/s 11:31, 20 January 2012 (UTC)


Unfortunately, I no longer have time to participate in this arbitration case. I had every intention to do so, but things change fast in the land of beaches and sheep. Sorry to all involved : ( DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 23:24, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

I'll arby this shtuff. I propose a dance off. I'll be a judge, and blackmail Spiderzed to judge as well. Loser of the dance off is banned so hard he goes to historical groups. /sarcasm --Krazymouse 06:26, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

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