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The coloured text will be added to the last paragraph of the section [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/UDWiki:Administration/Misconduct#Guidelines_for_System_Operator_Misconduct_Reporting Guidelines for System Operator Misconduct Reporting]" so that it will read as follows:
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{{Policy Document|Prohibit Sysop Misconduct Self-Punishment}}
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''"All discussion of misconduct should occur on this page, not the talk page - any discussion on the talk page will be merged into this page once discovered. Once a misconduct case has been declared closed, a member of the sysop team  <font color="red">other than the sysop named in the case''</font> will mete out the punishment (if deemed necessary), and then move the case to the Archive."
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The coloured text will be added to the last paragraph of the section [[UDWiki:Administration/Misconduct#Guidelines_for_System_Operator_Misconduct_Reporting|Guidelines for System Operator Misconduct Reporting]]" so that it will read as follows:
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''"All discussion of misconduct should occur on this page, not the talk page - any discussion on the talk page will be merged into this page once discovered. Once a misconduct case has been declared closed, a member of the sysop team  <font color="red">other than the sysop named in the case''</font> ''will mete out the punishment (if deemed necessary), and then move the case to the Archive."
  
 
==Voting==  
 
==Voting==  
 
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===For===
 
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#{{User:Dr Frank/Signature}} 05:40, 14 September 2009 (BST)
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#:Okay i think this vote is invalid as it was placed by User:The Second linking to another user. That isn't okay as per sig policy.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 06:26, 14 September 2009 (BST)
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#::No, it's him, checkuser confirmed that he just lost his accoutn password.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 07:12, 14 September 2009 (BST)
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#:::Yarp. He's the same guy. I think this was brought up last week, or week before. I forget. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 22:30, 14 September 2009 (BST)
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#Hagnat jew gold in basket.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 05:52, 14 September 2009 (BST)
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# Yeah, I could see this in real life: "No, that's alright your honour. I'll just take myself to jail!" I could see why this could be important... -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 05:55, 14 September 2009 (BST)
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#:I think a better analogy is nubis refusing to show up to court, and when teh cops are sent coz he's been skipping bail he'd answer the door and be like "don't worry guys, i put myself under house arrest"--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 05:59, 14 September 2009 (BST)
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#In an ideal world this would be unneccessary as any self-punishment would just be ignored by the oher sysops, but sometimes you have to be pragmatic. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 05:56, 14 September 2009 (BST)
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# --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|Chartreuse}}-- 06:01, 14 September 2009 (BST)
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# --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 06:12, 14 September 2009 (BST)
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# --{{User:SirArgo/Signature}} 06:23, 14 September 2009 (BST)
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# Sure why not? It can't do any harm.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 07:12, 14 September 2009 (BST)
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#The only people I can see being against it would be incompetent sysops and former sysops of the same calibre. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 11:21, 14 September 2009 (BST)
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#makes sense for so many reasons its almost a mystery why this isn't already the case. --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 11:45, 14 September 2009 (BST)
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#Good idea.  --{{User:Zombie slay3r/Signature}} 11:56, 14 September 2009 (BST)
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# --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 12:22, 14 September 2009 (BST)
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# --{{User:OrangeGaf/Sig}} 14:55, 14 September 2009 (BST)
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# For reasons I stated on the discussion.--[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 15:47, 14 September 2009 (BST)
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# --{{User:Paddy Dignam/sig}} 17:04, 14 September 2009 (BST)
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# --{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 22:24, 14 September 2009 (BST)
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# - 'spose. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 22:30, 14 September 2009 (BST)
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#Fairly pointless, but whatev. We like these things. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:31, 14 September 2009 (BST)
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#As Gnome and Bob. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 08:03, 15 September 2009 (BST)
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#Closes that little loophole.--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 22:56, 15 September 2009 (BST)
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# - Yeh this is quite logical captain.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 12:19, 16 September 2009 (BST)
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# - While Conndraka may have a point in that sometimes it is easier for a person to clean up their own mess, in the issue of fair and good policy I think that clause should be added. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 09:20, 18 September 2009 (BST)
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#Its all good--[[User:C Whitty|C Whitty]] 11:54, 18 September 2009 (BST)
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#Just about settling on this side of the fence. Doesn't strike me as necessary but there may come a time when it is. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:11, 21 September 2009 (BST)
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#Im all for it--{{User:Suffery/sig}} 05:52, 27 September 2009 (BST)
 
===Against===
 
===Against===
*Sometimes its easier to just say..."My Bad, I'll take care of this myself." If ''SOME'' folks could keep their underwear from getting knotted up, this would take care of itself more often than not. [[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]]<sup>[[User_talk:Conndraka|T]][[AZM]] [[Coalition for Fair Tactics|''CFT'']]</sup> 04:41, 14 September 2009 (BST)
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#Sometimes its easier to just say..."My Bad, I'll take care of this myself." If ''SOME'' folks could keep their underwear from getting knotted up, this would take care of itself more often than not. [[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]]<sup>[[User_talk:Conndraka|T]][[AZM]] [[Coalition for Fair Tactics|''CFT'']]</sup> 04:41, 14 September 2009 (BST)
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#:I like my underwear well knotted.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 05:52, 14 September 2009 (BST)
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#::I think he was talking about ''relevant'' people. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 05:54, 14 September 2009 (BST)
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#:::And here i was thinking he was talking about my vendetta cases with no merit..--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 05:55, 14 September 2009 (BST)
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#As the talk page... bitches :p <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:41 15 September 2009 (BST)</small>
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#Because it's unneeded so much as beating the two above over the head with some common sense. Obviously the community thinks, legitimately, that you're points are crap. You're really not fooling anyway but that doesn't mean we need more useless policies to that point, so much as reversing other such stupid policies that make excusing this lack of sense convenient and easy. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 12:48, 17 September 2009 (BST)
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# unneeeded, against the entire spirt of the administration guidelines that we have been using and only leads to unncessary red-tape. --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User_talk:Hagnat|[talk]]] [[wcdz|[wcdz]]]</sup> 22:03, 18 September 2009 (BST)
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#:<s>This change is unnecessary. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 11:43, 30 September 2009 (BST)</s> ''Voting is closed. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 13:02, 30 September 2009 (BST)''

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The coloured text will be added to the last paragraph of the section Guidelines for System Operator Misconduct Reporting" so that it will read as follows:

"All discussion of misconduct should occur on this page, not the talk page - any discussion on the talk page will be merged into this page once discovered. Once a misconduct case has been declared closed, a member of the sysop team other than the sysop named in the case will mete out the punishment (if deemed necessary), and then move the case to the Archive."

Voting

Voting Rules
Votes must be numbered, signed, and timestamped. They can take one of two forms:
  • # comments ~~~~
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Votes that do not conform to the above will be struck by a sysop.

The only valid voting sections are For and Against. If you wish to abstain from voting, do not vote.

For

  1. ~Dr Frank (t) (DF) [P] (Sb) 05:40, 14 September 2009 (BST)
    Okay i think this vote is invalid as it was placed by User:The Second linking to another user. That isn't okay as per sig policy.--xoxo 06:26, 14 September 2009 (BST)
    No, it's him, checkuser confirmed that he just lost his accoutn password.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 07:12, 14 September 2009 (BST)
    Yarp. He's the same guy. I think this was brought up last week, or week before. I forget. -- Cheese 22:30, 14 September 2009 (BST)
  2. Hagnat jew gold in basket.--xoxo 05:52, 14 September 2009 (BST)
  3. Yeah, I could see this in real life: "No, that's alright your honour. I'll just take myself to jail!" I could see why this could be important... -Poodle of doom 05:55, 14 September 2009 (BST)
    I think a better analogy is nubis refusing to show up to court, and when teh cops are sent coz he's been skipping bail he'd answer the door and be like "don't worry guys, i put myself under house arrest"--xoxo 05:59, 14 September 2009 (BST)
  4. In an ideal world this would be unneccessary as any self-punishment would just be ignored by the oher sysops, but sometimes you have to be pragmatic. Cyberbob  Talk  05:56, 14 September 2009 (BST)
  5. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 06:01, 14 September 2009 (BST)
  6. --Bob Boberton TF / DW Littlemudkipsig.gif 06:12, 14 September 2009 (BST)
  7. --SirArgo Talk 06:23, 14 September 2009 (BST)
  8. Sure why not? It can't do any harm.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 07:12, 14 September 2009 (BST)
  9. The only people I can see being against it would be incompetent sysops and former sysops of the same calibre. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 11:21, 14 September 2009 (BST)
  10. makes sense for so many reasons its almost a mystery why this isn't already the case. --Honestmistake 11:45, 14 September 2009 (BST)
  11. Good idea. --ZsL 11:56, 14 September 2009 (BST)
  12. --WanYao 12:22, 14 September 2009 (BST)
  13. --Orange Talk 14:55, 14 September 2009 (BST)
  14. For reasons I stated on the discussion.--Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 15:47, 14 September 2009 (BST)
  15. --Paddy DignamIS DEAD 17:04, 14 September 2009 (BST)
  16. --Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 22:24, 14 September 2009 (BST)
  17. - 'spose. -- Cheese 22:30, 14 September 2009 (BST)
  18. Fairly pointless, but whatev. We like these things. --  AHLGTG 22:31, 14 September 2009 (BST)
  19. As Gnome and Bob. Linkthewindow  Talk  08:03, 15 September 2009 (BST)
  20. Closes that little loophole.-- Adward  22:56, 15 September 2009 (BST)
  21. - Yeh this is quite logical captain.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 12:19, 16 September 2009 (BST)
  22. - While Conndraka may have a point in that sometimes it is easier for a person to clean up their own mess, in the issue of fair and good policy I think that clause should be added. --Maverick Talk - OBR Praise Knowledge! 404 09:20, 18 September 2009 (BST)
  23. Its all good--C Whitty 11:54, 18 September 2009 (BST)
  24. Just about settling on this side of the fence. Doesn't strike me as necessary but there may come a time when it is. We're coming to get you, Barbara 03:11, 21 September 2009 (BST)
  25. Im all for it--Suff-TMS- <-- Killin' zombies! 05:52, 27 September 2009 (BST)

Against

  1. Sometimes its easier to just say..."My Bad, I'll take care of this myself." If SOME folks could keep their underwear from getting knotted up, this would take care of itself more often than not. ConndrakaTAZM CFT 04:41, 14 September 2009 (BST)
    I like my underwear well knotted.--xoxo 05:52, 14 September 2009 (BST)
    I think he was talking about relevant people. Cyberbob  Talk  05:54, 14 September 2009 (BST)
    And here i was thinking he was talking about my vendetta cases with no merit..--xoxo 05:55, 14 September 2009 (BST)
  2. As the talk page... bitches :p -- boxy talkteh rulz 10:41 15 September 2009 (BST)
  3. Because it's unneeded so much as beating the two above over the head with some common sense. Obviously the community thinks, legitimately, that you're points are crap. You're really not fooling anyway but that doesn't mean we need more useless policies to that point, so much as reversing other such stupid policies that make excusing this lack of sense convenient and easy. --Karekmaps?! 12:48, 17 September 2009 (BST)
  4. unneeeded, against the entire spirt of the administration guidelines that we have been using and only leads to unncessary red-tape. --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 22:03, 18 September 2009 (BST)
    This change is unnecessary. ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 11:43, 30 September 2009 (BST) Voting is closed. Cyberbob  Talk  13:02, 30 September 2009 (BST)
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