UDWiki:Administration/Sysop Archives/WanYao/2008-04-09 Promotion
User:WanYao
For the second time in my time with my history with the wiki I am putting someone up for promotion that I believe would be a valuable asset to the sysopp team. Although He and I differ on opinion on a number of issues (specifically the use of category tags) I believe that he actually cares for the use of this wiki as an honest and useful source of information. Let us view the standard requirements line by line shall we?
Significant time within the community. I'm not sure when Wan became truly active in the community, but the current list goes to 18 July 2007 with literally thousands upon thousands of edits. More than enough time in.
Significant activity within the community. Of the many thousands of edits Wan has done, he has been significantly active in both maintenance of Suburb pages and Suggestions pages. If you are a wiki warrior, you can't help but notice his contributions of late.
Prior interest in maintaining the community. Wan has gone out of his way to defend his view on what constitutes POV/NPOV and what should be presented where on the various pages. Now I don't agree with him on some of his interpretations, but if agreeing with me was a requirement for someone to be a viable asset to this community then it wouldn't be the best source of Drama since Shakespeare. Honestly though, RPing crap and honest difference of opinions aside, Wan has done an outstanding job on dealing with both people and issues dealing with the maintenance of the Wiki.
Desire to become a System Operator. We define this simply as indicating in the candidate's request their desire for the position (Note that if a person is nominated by another user, the candidate in question should note their acceptance of the nomination). OK... WanYao, here would be the place to put weter or not you would accept this nomination.
Indication of trust in the candidate. Again, I may differ in opinion on certain issues but I believe he has an honest goal of improving the wiki. And that I can support, even if I can't unilaterally support all of his decisions. I believe there are MANY other players regardless of Survivor/Zombie/Both affiliations that can and will support WanYao for sysop.
WanYao's initial comment - I'm flattered and honoured by the nomination and the support so far. However, I am not sure if I am going to accept the nomination... Give me a few days, at least, please. Then hopefully I'll have a decision and a comment, either way... In the meantime, ask me any questions you wish, whether here or on my talk page. Thanks. --WanYao 04:55, 9 April 2008 (BST)
Nomination declined - Thank you very much everyone... Thunk about it a bit, and I don't think this is something I want to take on at this time. Perhaps at a later date I shall pursue the position. But not now. I also kind of enjoy being just an opinionated loudmouth with no special status whatsoever... ;P --WanYao 16:03, 10 April 2008 (BST)
- VOUCH I stand behind this nomination. Conndrakamod TDHPD CFT 18:11, 8 April 2008 (BST)
- Vouch - Meh. Why not? Works hard for the Wiki. Give him some new buttons. I think he's earned them. -- Cheese 18:59, 8 April 2008 (BST)
- Vouch - As Cheeseman. --Nitro378 T JNL 19:02, 8 April 2008 (BST)
- Vouch - in fact, i think we are looking at future crat material. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 19:08, 8 April 2008 (BST)
- Vouch - TDB deserves it more, but you gotta love Wan--/~Rakuen~\Talk
I Still Love Grim 19:24, 8 April 2008 (BST) - Vouch - As Hagnat. --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 22:05, 8 April 2008 (BST)
- Abstain - Not until I see some policy from him or something. And if he hasn't accepted yet, why did we move this down here? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:08, 8 April 2008 (BST)
- Vouch - ^Axe Bah! Peez make him sydoop NOAW! -- AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:11, 8 April 2008 (BST)
- Wait...what? Did you say to make me sysop? What? Who? I'm lost... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 01:13, 9 April 2008 (BST)
- Vouch - Tends to keep some perspecive on things, often adds much needed inteligent insight into things and I generaly get quite a friendly "good guy" vibe off him, if that makes sense. Seems like a decent bloke.--SeventythreeTalk 22:17, 8 April 2008 (BST)
- Against - Has shown no working knowledge of the rules he will have to enforce.--Karekmaps?! 01:09, 9 April 2008 (BST)
- Abstain - Wan and myself have differences, however I wont waste my vote purely on dislike of somebody. When Wan accepts, and then makes a statement, I will vote.--CyberRead240 01:13, 9 April 2008 (BST)
- Abstain - He's one of the only people actually attempting to solve the current Dead/DHPD dispute and is remaining surprising neutral. The mods haven't done anything except ban people and haven't even tried working on a real solution. I'd vote for you, but if I did that you'd get 50 people immediately voting no. --́我們像瘋了似的영주維基維基，俄亥俄，因為這麼多的神，上帝，請原諒我的́罪，因此，這裡的簽名要求 17:17, 9 April 2008 (BST)
- Convince me Wan has yet to accept the nomination and when/if he does i would like to know why he would like the extra powers! Wan and I often disagree but to me he is a model wiki-user in that he ALWAYS accepts that others have opinions.... for that reason alone i am unwilling to lose him to the pit of drama that is sysophood!--Honestmistake 01:51, 10 April 2008 (BST)
- Against - if he doesn't follow the rules on A/VB when he's not a sysop then why on earth would he when he is? Jonny12 talk 15:31, 10 April 2008 (BST)
- what --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 15:53, 10 April 2008 (BST)
- Even though I have declined the nomination, I would like to know WTF you're talking about. Karek is right: I am not initiated into many of Teh Esoterick Mysteries o' Teh Wikah. But I don't believe I have ever actually broken any of the rules..... I think you've got some 'splainin to do, Lucy.... --WanYao 16:07, 10 April 2008 (BST)
- The page says "If you are not a System Operator, the user who made the vandal report, the user being reported, or in any way directly involved in the case, the administration strongly asks that you use the talk page for further discussion". You posted directly onto the main page in the "DCC/Katthew" case even though you didn't report it, you are not DCC or Katthew and you aren't involved, as far as I know (and if you are I apologise wholeheartedly). Jonny12 talk 20:55, 10 April 2008 (BST)
- That "rule" was shoehorned in by Grim (and now, it seems, a few others are getting in on the act) without a policy vote. The questionable nature of its existence aside, you're a fucking idiot and need to grow up. --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 22:18, 10 April 2008 (BST)
- Whether or not it's a rule, it's a guideline that's asked to be followed - I don't think it's an unreasonable request. Please don't resort to insults to get your point across. Jonny12 talk 22:40, 10 April 2008 (BST)
- The sysops are certainly within their rights to request that it be followed, and to move comments to the talk page - but without it being an actual policy dealing out warnings is a complete abuse of power. For you to vote against his bid purely on the basis of like one comment is completely retarded. --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 22:42, 10 April 2008 (BST)
- I haven't said anything about giving out warnings. It's a guideline that's asked to be followed, and he ignored it. So if he ignores that, then what else might he ignore? If you had followed your own advice and "discussed it with me calmly and politely on my talk page" as your user page says, I might have changed, as it is, I'm more inclined to stick with it after your childish insults. Jonny12 talk 22:46, 10 April 2008 (BST)
- Jonny12... You are wrong. I was involved in that case. If not directly in the vandalism itself, I was VERY involved in the situation and the actual pages involved in the VB case. In making edits to the pages, reverting vandalism , as well as trying to help resolve the whole dispute over editing the pages. Yeah... I was involved. Otherwise, I would not have commented on the case. Because I do know the rules. And I followed them. Or I followed them as I understand them... Perhaps I was wrong in my interpretation, or a little "flexible" in interpreting them... But I was involved, as involved as many people who comment on cases and no one bats an eyelash... I think the problem here is that you don't have all the facts... --WanYao 23:18, 10 April 2008 (BST) (and i've been exhaussted and can't type last few days grrr)
- Ahhh right, ok. Vote changed Jonny12 talk 23:28, 10 April 2008 (BST)
- Just to agree with Bob (rare these days) there is no rule to stop people commenting on the A/VB pages The guideline was put up by Grim with no consultation, I understand why it was done (and grudgingly accept that it works) but it is not a rule and enforcing it against strong opinion could/should/would lead to misconduct for any sysop stupid enough to try. comment should be left on the talk page but you do not need to be directly involved to have useful input. --Honestmistake 23:34, 10 April 2008 (BST)
- Ahhh right, ok. Vote changed Jonny12 talk 23:28, 10 April 2008 (BST)
- Jonny12... You are wrong. I was involved in that case. If not directly in the vandalism itself, I was VERY involved in the situation and the actual pages involved in the VB case. In making edits to the pages, reverting vandalism , as well as trying to help resolve the whole dispute over editing the pages. Yeah... I was involved. Otherwise, I would not have commented on the case. Because I do know the rules. And I followed them. Or I followed them as I understand them... Perhaps I was wrong in my interpretation, or a little "flexible" in interpreting them... But I was involved, as involved as many people who comment on cases and no one bats an eyelash... I think the problem here is that you don't have all the facts... --WanYao 23:18, 10 April 2008 (BST) (and i've been exhaussted and can't type last few days grrr)
- I haven't said anything about giving out warnings. It's a guideline that's asked to be followed, and he ignored it. So if he ignores that, then what else might he ignore? If you had followed your own advice and "discussed it with me calmly and politely on my talk page" as your user page says, I might have changed, as it is, I'm more inclined to stick with it after your childish insults. Jonny12 talk 22:46, 10 April 2008 (BST)
- The sysops are certainly within their rights to request that it be followed, and to move comments to the talk page - but without it being an actual policy dealing out warnings is a complete abuse of power. For you to vote against his bid purely on the basis of like one comment is completely retarded. --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 22:42, 10 April 2008 (BST)
- Whether or not it's a rule, it's a guideline that's asked to be followed - I don't think it's an unreasonable request. Please don't resort to insults to get your point across. Jonny12 talk 22:40, 10 April 2008 (BST)
- That "rule" was shoehorned in by Grim (and now, it seems, a few others are getting in on the act) without a policy vote. The questionable nature of its existence aside, you're a fucking idiot and need to grow up. --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 22:18, 10 April 2008 (BST)
- The page says "If you are not a System Operator, the user who made the vandal report, the user being reported, or in any way directly involved in the case, the administration strongly asks that you use the talk page for further discussion". You posted directly onto the main page in the "DCC/Katthew" case even though you didn't report it, you are not DCC or Katthew and you aren't involved, as far as I know (and if you are I apologise wholeheartedly). Jonny12 talk 20:55, 10 April 2008 (BST)
- Even though I have declined the nomination, I would like to know WTF you're talking about. Karek is right: I am not initiated into many of Teh Esoterick Mysteries o' Teh Wikah. But I don't believe I have ever actually broken any of the rules..... I think you've got some 'splainin to do, Lucy.... --WanYao 16:07, 10 April 2008 (BST)
- what --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 15:53, 10 April 2008 (BST)
