User talk:Giles Sednik

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From Airborn

--Airborne88^T|Z.Quiz|PSS 21:52, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for invitation, we are very exited to work with our sister organizations here in Malton. and will gladly adhere to your requests.Oreo2236

From Michaleson

Fly your colours Giles

	CAPD
	This User/ Group Supports CAPD.

--Michaleson CAPD 22:52, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh I intend to Michaleson. I'm going to jazz up the Friends section of my wiki page to include some templates and the like. I just typed up that stuff without doing the work on it yet. You'll see, it'll be glorious. --Giles Sednik ^CAPDSWA 05:45, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

BHOS

I just thought it would be good to put it there, I am sure they would like it though. Also i have to say i like your CAPD Template better than the old one. --^TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 19:59, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi Giles!

This is the link to our forum. Come and claim your ally status :) --D.E.ATalk 13:56, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Umbrella

Thanks for that Giles. It was only after I signed off for the night, that I realised it was only for the actual groups of the SWA, not the allies. Never mind eh. I'd added Umbrella, here too, but have now removed it. Perhaps we could split this page... the top half for the groups of the SWA, and the bottom half where allies can add their group name (or template). Just a thought though! :P --D.E.ATalk 10:09, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeh I'm thinking we need a proper allies section. Maybe something marked by a button at the top that links to a subspace of the SWA wiki. Been busy with work lately and haven't had the time to set it up but I'll get something going here soon. Laters! --Giles Sednik ^CAPDSWA 19:29, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Brain Virus

This should be under your user namespace. Just informing you that I have put in a move request to have it moved from Brain Virus to User:Giles Sednik/Brain Virus, so you aren't confused. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 00:52, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

I know what you mean, and while I agree that both C.R.A.P. and Civility can and should belong in the main space, but the first ones informative because it represents a movement, and the latter is humourous. Brain Virus is a concept piece and suggestion concepts usually go under user namespaces, like sandpits. Don't worry, just keep editing it on the page that it's on, if it gets moved at all, it'll all get carried over and you'll be notified by me. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 08:49, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

User:Giles Sednik/Brain Virus

It's been moved to the above link. Linkthewindow  Talk  12:01, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey there bud.

How are yah? Thanks for complimenting me on my wiki, spent a lot of time working on it and I'm glad there's people out there that like it. Those are some nice templates (I'm guessing you made?) I swiped the pink winnie the pooh hope yah don't mind. Judging by your wiki page, you seem like a level headed guy from all the sensible talk on there about PKers and Malton needing a challenge, and I'm glad I came across you. Now about your question, from what I know I believe the heathers are mostly inactive, RL got a hold of them I guess. Anyways I'll be gunning for yah as soon as I'm done with my current activities, don't take it personal though if we cross paths, we cross paths, I'm not a griefer, and I won't make you a special project, treat yah the same as everybody else that kills me. Oh, and here's a record of our encounter if your wondering what I'm talking about. And by the way, the devil says die already. -- Denver  ^5MoC 08:51, 14 May 2009 (BST)

Tee hee, why I remember you. Of course, I won't have any hard feelings when you return the favor. And feel free to rock the Pooh template - I'm actually surprised more PKers don't throw it on their wiki page. See ya around Denver! :) --Giles Sednik ^CAPDSWA 16:22, 14 May 2009 (BST)

DS

Can you give some input on this please. --  RoosterDragon  20:57, 9 June 2009 (BST)

Thanks

This game is a lot of fun and the wiki's one of the best parts. I'm just aiming to get information out there so people know what the score is, especially when they're headed into a new area like I often am. : ) Thanks for letting me know someone's watching, man. Hope to see you around in-game and on-wiki. --William ^talk 20:51, 20 June 2009 (BST)

Edits to protected articles

I'd be happy to help but (annoyingly) you have to submit a request on A/PT for that kind of thing. --Cyberbob 04:06, 29 June 2009 (BST)

Starting Clothes Suggestion

Hey Giles,maybe you could take the starting clothes idea to the suggestions page for voting. It seems you have a better grasp of the advantages of the concept than I do, and you outlined some good additions for it as well. What do you say?--Degree7 06:54, 14 August 2009 (BST)

I think you were doing a fine job, but I'll be happy to put the suggestion up for you. It's a good suggestion. I don't think it will pass though, but let's see what happens!--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 07:48, 14 August 2009 (BST)

Yeah, worth a try.--Degree7 21:22, 14 August 2009 (BST)

Thanks a lot man, I think it's gonna make it through to peer reviewed, hopefully. --Degree7 04:19, 15 August 2009 (BST)

CAPD design

Ok i am going to begin that...the most important idea is to make a public area like:DNRlist,Board of News,ETC, to make CAPD residents fell welcome in our forum.--(x)Alvaromesa^{Talk | Bacardi |MPD | Malton Public Radio} 06:52, 18 August 2009 (BST)

Unmerging

It's called unmerging grouped location articles, feel free to do it. What you do is go to, say, Stanbury_Village_Churches#St._Eusebius.27s_Church, and then just cut +paste the info at St. Eusebius's Church. If the destination is already taken up with a location page or a disambiguation page, make it at St. Eusebius's Church (Stanbury Village). This isn't necessary in this case.

The only tricky think you need to make sure you do is ensure you've changed the coding on the LocationBlock template from {{Locationblockmerge| to {{Locationblock|, and under coordinates=53,54|, make a new line and add location_type=Church| when you make the individual article. That way the map will show up with the building information at the bottom. It sounds confusing, but just tweak around with it, it'll work eventually. Don't be afraid to screw it up, accidents happen.

Once all the locations on portals like Stanbury Village Churches have been created into their own articles, these portals become redundant and can be deleted as Crit 1's through speedy deletions.

--DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 01:54, 19 August 2009 (BST)

And cmon, potential vandalism? Trying to help out =/= vandalism. Good luck with the location pages. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 01:56, 19 August 2009 (BST)

Right on. Yeh I would of course create the correct pages first and then put the crappy ones up for deletion. I just didn't know if people have tried this before and gotten into edit wars or whatever. It seems very strange that Stanbury Village and Dunnell Hills have this crazy formating, I thought maybe people viewed it as a legitimate style of formatting otherwise it should have been fixed long ago. Thanks, I'll get cracking on it.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 02:07, 19 August 2009 (BST)

Ah, fair enough. Typically, we treat it as an ultimate goal that every location will have its own page, eventually. Until then, it's up to the more dedicated users to complete the job. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 02:26, 19 August 2009 (BST)

Hope y'all don't mind me butting in here, but just want to add make sure you redirect all the incoming links towards the appropriate building before you delete the massed page. I learned that part the hard way.--~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 05:30, 19 August 2009 (BST)

Excellent point. I was going to do all the work in my sandbox and get everything working before putting up the old stuff for deletion. So it would probably be a good idear to keep a copy of the old page in a sandbox somewhere in case anything gets messed up. Thanks!--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 07:41, 19 August 2009 (BST)

Thanks

Yours is nice too. Btw, nice work with these zergs.--Orange Talk 22:06, 25 August 2009 (BST)

Sign your biker vote

That is all! --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 13:08, 9 October 2009 (BST) Thanks. --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 13:29, 9 October 2009 (BST)

Suggestion:20091009

Already exists, dumbass--LAZURMAN IV 15:38, 9 October 2009 (BST)

Ah weird. Wth? I used the suggestion template but it generated the same number again. Blech. Let me see if I can fix that. Any advice would be appreciated.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 15:40, 9 October 2009 (BST)

I'm getting banned in three seconds ;_;. Good luck anyway--LAZURMAN IV 15:41, 9 October 2009 (BST)

Thanks for setting that suggestion up for me properly Giles! Much obliged. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Ben (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.

Yup. Hey, btw, you should get into the habit of signing your posts. It's one of the biggest pet peeves people have on this wiki (myself included) and it will really help you to get along with others. If you don't sign, people are gonna give you shit about it.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 16:10, 9 October 2009 (BST)

Thanks

Thanks for setting that suggestion up for me properly Giles! Much obliged.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ben (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.

Sign your posts idiot--LAZURMAN IV 15:48, 9 October 2009 (BST)

edit conflicted: NO problem. I actually screwed it up a little bit but I'm in the process of getting it fixed. For some reason I ended up with the wrong suggestion number. But I'm about to put the incorrect version up for speedy delete. Should be sorted out pretty soon here. Don't be afraid to ask other users for help when submitting a suggestion in the future. And consider using Developing Suggestions before putting it up for a vote. Good luck.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 15:49, 9 October 2009 (BST)

Will Do

Will do Giles but it's a bit daunting when you've got people like -LAZURMAN IV calling you a Dumbass and an idiot when they don't even know me lol.

See My Comment ON Speedy Deletions

Thanks --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 16:00, 9 October 2009 (BST)

Just to say, keep on querying deletions, It wan't a clear cut case, and should have been explained better. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 14:30, 24 October 2009 (BST)

Yarp.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 15:32, 24 October 2009 (BST)

Suggestions

Read this before you go anywhere near them next time. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 12:50, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

That was snarky. Thanks for the link though.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 23:39, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Maybe it was, but you caused unnecessary work due to your 'manner' of doing it. I don't like cleaning up after people especially when it's easier to do from scratch myself. Next time leave Rosslessness or myself a message and we'll do it. Fucking up the process causes havoc with the archives. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 00:01, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Again with the 'tude. But yes, now that I know I'll cycle the suggestion correctly. I'm not sure why you think it's more effective to make your point in an insulting, belittling manner, but for me it does nothing. I'm always happy to learn more about any process and for that I'm thankful, but your snide behavior is unnecessary and when I need to instruct someone else about their errors on the wiki, I'll be sure to treat them with greater respect than you've shown me.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 00:17, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Unmerged Locations

Thanks for the heads up about unmerging.

But I've noticed something. This page is already part of the Whittenside category but it doesn't have Category:Whittenside in it anywhere. I think it may have something to do with the suburb tag in the location block template. --Rahrah^{Come join the #party!}20:16, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

The LocationBlock template (on the right) gives all locations a suburb category and a building type category. Adding those in the article is redundant unless you need to change the sort key. --  RoosterDragon  20:22, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for clearing that up Rooster, I actually didn't realize the category templates serve the same function as the text at the beginning of the locationblock template. So, here's an issue. When you copy the code from the grouped locationblockmerge it will look like this:

{{Locationblockmerge

suburb=Whittenside

coordinates = 00,11

The problem with that code is that it's missing the line which specifies the building type. So you'll have to add the building type between suburb = and coordinates =. Or, I reckon, you could just add the building category template to the bottom of the page. DDR actually left some great instructions for unmerging up there.

One final note. When you unmerge a location, you'll want to remove all of the #s. Take a look at Jepp Way. I just removed the #s on the street names but I left it there for Hellings Lane. You can try clicking on the link for Hellings Lane to see what happens when the # hasn't been removed. It just redirects to the same page.

Btw, good luck on your candidacy. I really do think you're a very good user and you have the demeanor to be a good sysop. Just keep asking questions and keep learning and you'll be ready soon.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 20:42, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Yeah those #'s allow you to go to a specific header on another page (so the merged locations would usually pick out the specific location in mind e.g. [[Suburb's Merged Locations#This Location|This Location]]) without a page in front of them, those #'s will send you to a header on the current page. They can be removed from unmerged locations, which also means you can reduce [[#Some Location|Some Location]] right down to [[Some Location]]. --  RoosterDragon  20:51, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

For what it's worth

I was kidding about the money, I didn't receive a dime. He also OFFERED it before I asked for it. That wouldn't be extortion, just payment for a service. Now then, he also EDITED the pages incorrectly, removing and messing up whole comments. That's why it's vandalism. The fact that he kept doing it is why I got pissed and decided to be a dick. After Iscariot gave him a pretty obvious warning, he edited the shit again, you know. He kept fucking with it when told to stop, that's just pushing his case even further down. The problem wasn't that he was trying to remove personal info, it's how he was going about doing it.

"SA tell me why I don't know shit about the wiki and call me something really nasty. Go ahead. But you both crossed a line and you should be ashamed of yourselves. And that stands. "

I don't think I'm the one who's ever called you something really nasty, that's generally DDR's job to do that. Hell, I wasn't even much of a dick during the whole me using a sock fairly issue. More just pissed at wanyao trying to go on his anti-'ops crusade, and ignoring everything I said about it.

"It had nothing to do with following the rules or any other BS excuse you're likely to come up with. The truth is, you both saw a gleaming to opportunity fuck somebody over and you delighted in it. What does that make you?"

It makes me someone who was pissed at someone else who was doing something wrong and wasn't listening on how he shouldn't be doing it that way. THE ONLY REASON it's vandalism is the way he's gone about it. So the ruling was ALL about the rules. But please, do go on about how I'm such a bad person and how I should be ashamed of myself.

"You two plotting, heartless, maniacal, smarmy little nigglers are a disgrace to anonymous internet dickheads around the world. I fucking pray neither of you shit monkeys ever end up in a position of any real authority or have the outcome of another human being's life placed in your sweaty little hands because you fuckers don't deserve an ounce trust. Not one ounce. "

Actually, up until I quit my old job a little over a month ago, I co-owned a tech store, where I was co-boss person. Quite a few times people have run into trouble with finances or other personal things and I would get everyone I could to chip in and help out with that persons problems. So yeah, I can guarantee that those employees would disagree with you. But please, call me evil some more.

Now, next time you decide to have a shit fit over something, make sure you know everything, and know more about the people involved before you go on these long rants.

Also, it wasn't a vote to have his editing priv's removed, but to give him an official warning. Which doesn't really mean shit, as if he cared about staying at the wiki he'd get enough edits to get rid of it fast enough.-- SA 21:32, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm glad you've been in a position to be responsible for the affairs of others and that you've acted appropriately. And I hope you were kidding about taking the guy's money. It's true I don't know you and I can't say how you behave in the real world. Chances are, you're a great person. So what I'd like is for you to treat people here with some of that compassion and respect you have IRL.

That's what I'm ranting and raving about. Because from where I was sitting, it sure looked like you and Iscariot were going out of your way to make someone else miserable. Now, I've had a chance to cool down from my rant and I wish I hadn't used profanities to make my point and I apologize to you for the way I made my point. But I still believe my underlying criticism.

My objection isn't about the vandalism case. It's about the way you two treated that guy. And yes my rant was over the top, but I stand by the sentiment. Thank you for responding here. In the future you can be sure that I'll treat you with greater decency if I get all hot and bothered about something. And I hope you'll take some of that to heart and make an effort to be more understanding of the troubles of others.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 12:29, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

You have my respect

Giles Sednik said:

Iscariot, SA, I went after you both in a very personal way, and I'm sorry.

It's one thing to say "YOU'RE AN IDIOT RAH RAH RAH," it's another to apologize. Bravo. Linkthewindow  Talk  20:18, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Definitely seconded. Even if you do think I'm a plotting, heartless, maniacal, smarmy little niggler.-- SA 01:04, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Hey, on the historical page? I'd appreciate if you didn't change the against to no s or anything like that. We still no its a no vote, you no?-- SA 15:16, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Vouch well, I thought it would be weird if everyone started voted "against" and "vouch" when the guidelines say to vote "yes" or "no". And vouch, you make a valid point, I just thought it could get a little confusing if you against what I mean.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 16:42, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I vouch what you mean. :B -- SA 16:51, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

WHa? *head explodes*--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 16:52, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Signed comments

Don't alter the signed comments of others, and certainly don't ever alter mine. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 20:19, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Right, right. Sorry. You wanted your vote to say "against" instead of "no". You and SA like to be different with your votes and I forgot about that. I was trying to be helpful but I see that you didn't find it helpful.

Anyways thanks for coming to my talk page and letting me know where I messed up, resolving it in a civil manner instead of going to A/VB. I do appreciate that. Laters ;)--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 12:29, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't care about my vote being different, especially given all of them were the same as mine before you happened to them, I care about the integrity of people's signed comments. That and you're thinking you changed them to make them valid votes didn't you? Because you didn't. Basic reading of the page shows that it says the only acceptable votes are Yay or Nay, you've altered the signed comments of other users and made them just as invalid as when they started, but compatible with how you wanted them to be. Newsflash, altering signed comments is vandalism, next time you are going to A/VB. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 16:04, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it was yes and no. I changed it to Yea or nay.-- SA 16:41, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Newsflash harhar.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 08:53, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

:B -- SA 11:57, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

So changing them to megatron and optimus prime later on. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:00, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

I like Beast Wars.-- SA 12:01, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

I actually hate both. Megas XLR for the win. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:51, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

I never got to see all of Megas. Was it as good as I thought?-- SA 13:14, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

It's genius. Absolute genius. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 22:23, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Beast Wars had Optimus Primal, for the most part, you know. Optimus Prime didn't show up until something like season 3, and that was only when they got into the Ark...not that I have the series on an external hard drive, waiting to be rewatched from when I was a kid or something... —Aichon— 15:31, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

I always thought he should've been called "Optimus Primate". They dropped the ball there. And can anyone vouch for the animated movie with the Orson Wells planet robot?--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 15:43, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

lol... awaits the telling off of SA, by the wiki's sole arbiter of righteousness... oh wait... where to go... A/VB... A/A... A/M... H/ELL -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 13:18 17 November 2009 (BST)

D: -- SA 20:37, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Also, do you want to explain why you were attaching my observations that had been on that page since the beginning of the bid to ZL's comment? It's a fucking talk page, I can discuss whatever I like on there. Do not alter the signed comments of other users. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 23:41, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Wait, what? Are you talking about this edit? What's wrong with that?--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 00:05, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

You attach my comment to that of ZL, inferring that I made my comments in response to his, which I quite obviously didn't. Adding my comment to his specifically ascribes meaning to my comment, a meaning that was not there before you edited. You therefore have edited my signed comment and altered its meaning to be different from that which it was previously. We call this impersonation. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 00:11, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

I certainly wasn't attempting to alter the meaning of your posts. I have a very long explanation for all of this, and I hope you'll take the time to read it, because it's important to me to clearly tell you where I'm coming from.

The principal is quite simple, really. I was trying to retain the numbering of registered votes, which you may know are preceded with a # symbol. Comments which are not votes need to be indented #: thusly, or it will reset the count, giving the illusion of separate vote tallies, which is annoying. Here is an example of some voting with comments:

1. #Yup I like pie. --
2. #Nope I hate pie. --

   #:Random Comment. --

   #::Response to comment. --

   #:::Response to response. --

3. #Yup --

Now, let's look at a second example, where the comments were not preceded with a # or an :

1. #Yup I like pie. --
2. #Nope I hate pie. --

nothing hereRandom Comment. --

1. #Yup --

Do you see how it restarts the count? The third vote becomes 1 instead of 3. It's irritating to the eye and if every comment was done in this fashion, then the votes would become very scrambled indeed. 1,2,3,1,2,1,1,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,.. and so on.

Finally, here is an example in which the commentor used a #, but neglected the :.

1. #Yup I like pie. --
2. #Nope I hate pie. --
3. #Random Comment. --
4. #Yup --

Well, the problem here is that the comment has been designated it's own number, even though it isn't intended to be a vote. So this also causes confusion. I do understand that you use the : to demonstrate that a comment is in response to the last person or general topic. However, the : also has use in wiki code, with for example [[:Image:hearts.png]], or [[:template:wuv]],, where the : specifies that a link will be provided without calling the template or image. Also, the : is used to set aside a comment in a numbered list without breaking format, as above.

So do you see how a colon could be used in this situation without implying that a comment was in direct response to ZL's vote?

Also, do you see the inherent ambiguity in a comment which directly follows a series of votes? Many votes on the wiki are interrupted by comments, indented with the convention above, and so it's certainly not out of the ordinary to continue the votes beneath a series of comments.

However, I respect your desire to be understood, as it is among the most basic needs in communication. So how can we act in the future to clearly communicate? I would suggest that if you were interested in commenting below a series of votes, that you set your comment apart with a couple of spaces.

Let's look at the example again.

1. #Yup I like pie. --
2. #Nope I hate pie. --

Random Comment. --

Now if I'm voter 3 it becomes apparent to me that I should vote above the random comment, directly after vote 2. But if you look at it without a space,

1. #Yup I like pie. --
2. #Nope I hate pie. --

Random Comment. --

That's fairly ambiguous, right? Maybe the random comment is in response to vote 2 but the commenter forgot or didn't know about the #:. Maybe it's a criticism of the entire voting process but it should be taken as an aside and the voting should commence after the comment. Or perhaps, as you intended, it should be separate from the voting at the bottom of the page. I'm sure you can understand, however, how it can be difficult for a voter to interpret just what the random commenter had in mind.

So, my point in all this, is that you're entitled to feel very strongly about being clearly understood. But also it isn't fair to others if they misunderstand your intentions, when those intentions are not clearly communicated. So, why leave it up to a possible misunderstanding? In this example, you can just use a double-space next time. Also, I hope you can see where I was trying to keep the page organized and interpret the formatting of the comments as best I could.

Thank you for reading my treatise on the colon. This message has been brought to you by punctuation, fun for the whole family.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 01:34, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

My (Eventual?) Sysop Bid

Hey, just saw your comment on Misanthropy's bid, about saving a Vouch for me. While I'm very flattered that you'd consider doing that, please don't hold off on supporting any qualified candidates on my account. To be perfectly frank, this is the first wiki that I've really engaged in, so I'm very much a wiki newb at the moment, and am still learning major aspects of the wiki on a regular basis.

I've only just started watching the drama parts of the wiki, and haven't even started chipping in with my opinions yet, since my opinions on those matters are still too ill-informed. I haven't read up on policy yet, and am basically getting by right now by applying common sense. It works well enough for me, since I haven't engaged in the drama parts where wiki-lawyering is more predominant, but if I were to apply for being a sysop, I'd need to have built competence in those areas, which I don't have at the moment.

When it comes to janitorial duties, I've barely taken any on myself, and the ones I have taken on myself are simple ones that any monkey could do. And even then, people still have to come up and clean behind me, since I miss things anyway.

Plus, there's the matter of actually wanting to be a sysop. Assuming I did feel qualified, I'd need to assess my own motives and determine whether I wanted it so that I could help the community, or if I wanted it because I simply wanted a symbol of status. Thankfully, at the moment, the point is moot, given that I'm unqualified, but I'll need to consider my motivation at some point and make sure that it's in the right place before I apply.

Long story short, I don't mean to be self-deprecating, but as a simple statement of fact, I'm definitely unfit for being a sysop at the moment, and I'm not sure if I'll want to be one later. I'll admit that I definitely have considered the idea of applying, but once I assessed myself, it was obvious to me that I wouldn't be a good fit right now. Perhaps in six months' time I'll reconsider, or perhaps sooner, if I feel that I've become more competent, but, at the moment, I still have much to learn about the way that the wiki operates.

So, again, thank you very much for supporting me, but I'm simply not ready right now. —Aichon— 22:53, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Haha that's perfect. It's your whole attitude that you need to be better and learn more that would make you such a good 'sop. I understand completely what you're saying though, and I hope when you're ready you won't be afraid to run. Well keep up the good stuff and see you around!--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 23:14, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Dont worry, when/if I feel like I'm getting close to being ready, I won't shy away from it, and I'm sure I'll start dropping hints well in advance anyway. —Aichon— 23:32, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Chip in on talk pages anyway. Ill-informed or not, you should be saying how you feel on talk pages and the like.-- SA 23:26, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

I intend to start doing so soon (within the month, I think), but I want to make sure I have some basic understanding of the processes before I go shooting my mouth. ;) —Aichon— 23:32, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Basic understanding never stopped the rest of us!-- SA 23:41, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Well...umm... *walks away quietly* —Aichon— 00:00, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Bringing Life to Dead Descriptions

Hi Giles, thanks for the kind words. I often wonder if anyone ever reads the stuff I write (page hits suggest: No) so it was encouraging to get a positive response! I'd definitely be interested in a more coordinated attempt to inject some humour and detail to a nondescript suburb, preferably one with some potential quirks and interest like your own chosen Foulkes Village.

I have a tourist alt heading up to the barren NW corner and adding the in-game description lines for any building he visits: the buildings in those ghost towns and red suburbs are practically all stubs. (I'm trying to see how long a level 1 character can survive with only the free running skill, and dark ruins to hide in...)--Mallrat 14:32, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

The above was posted on some horrible anti-page, but it was intended to go here.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 14:36, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

That's what I got for following the instructions at the top of the page!--Mallrat 14:48, 20 November 2009 (UTC)