Talk:Hydra Defense

HMM

cool name, useless policy. No offense :) If you made up a better policy with the same name, I would use it! --Happy doodle 04:27, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Eh...

Kind of useless overall if you ask me.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 04:31, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Zerging?

I just read this...and it looks like an alternate form of zerging... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 17:18, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it is a form of alt abuse. You shouldn't be coordinating your alt's behavior as a response to what has happened to your main account. However, this "defense" actually works towards the goal it seems to be created to counter. The typical trenchy (by far the most PK worthy residents of Malton) don't have zombie alts... if this policy makes them create zombie alts so that they can blackmail the PK community... then they are in fact improving the zombie/survivor ratio overall. (ps. trenchies... get yourself a zombie alt, it'll do wonders for your perspective on the game) -- boxy ^{talk • i} 10:46 29 December 2007 (BST)

Get a pker too, that way you learn pkers have nothing to do with zombies, at all.--Karek^maps?! 14:12, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

It isn't a form of zerging by the rules. I added a new section to go into that further. And you're right Boxy, if players make zombie characters so they can use this then the Hydra Defense will end up aiding zombies. But personally, I think more zombies in game are a good thing. --Jon Pyre 04:48, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

you know

alot of pkers just pk because they want to. it has nothing to do with sides.--'BP^Tmz 17:32, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Good point, I added a section in response. --Jon Pyre 04:27, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Support

Red Rum wholeheartedly support this notion of doing a wee jig about with your characters when we shoot you. Wear the Hydra tags with pride! ^{like a big red target} --Karloth Vois ^RR 14:28, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Indeed. I wholeheartedly support this. PKing everywhere shall be stopped! The PKA will whither away and die leaving Malton safe again! Raiders will be confuzzled by all the new survivors! Knights will see the illogic of their continued existence! The RRF will drop to zero members! There will be orgies in the streets! Caiger Mall will lower its barricades! The Leighton Kru will no longer be a figure of omnipotent annoyance! Finally, everyone will sleep outside everywhere, as do the survivors of Fort Creedy. Brilliant strategy! ----Secruss^|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA||EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ||MU|GN|C2008||23:11, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

I fully endorse this. This is a foolproof way to stop PKing, Death Culting, and other human violence, and wipe it from our city. Thank you for thinking this up! --Peace Pipe 00:15, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, I as well am in complete and total favor of this tactic. Why, next thing you know all turmoil will cease! Zombies and survivors will coexist peacefully, the borders will reopen, and we'll live happily ever after. --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 00:51, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

The Late Night TV Crue enthusiastically endorses this strategy as one sure to strike fear in the hearts of player killers across the fair city of Malton. Just the thought of this plan has produced a strange moisture in my pants, though I'm not sure if it's from fear or excitement.--Sarah Silverman 15:24, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

I've never really considered the error of my ways until I read this idea. How was I to know that by killing the ignorant, I was really in essence working "for" the zombie hordes. I've decided now to give up my guns and work for the survival of all mankind.....no matter how stupid they are. What was I thinking? What have I done? As a reformed killer, I now throw my full support behind this idea. Together we can take back this city & build a better future for all of us. Sir WV (a reformed Pker) 20:48, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

False Assumption

This would be a good theory except for the false assumption you are making about PKers. If you were a PKer yourself you would realize what an error in reasoning you've made here. Most of us don't care whether we are hurting or assisting the survivor cause against the zombies or not. To us the zombies are merely an obstacle in the game to be avoided or a temporary condition to be overcome. We could care less what the survivor/zombie ratio is from one day to the next. We don't kill survivors to assist the zombies, we PK for sport. Several of us in fact might actually target Hydra participants just for a little variety. If survivors as a whole benefit then; Cheers! More power to ya!--Headless gunner ^W! 04:57, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

True, but this isn't designed to harm PKers but rather counteract their attacks. This is the Hydra Defense, not the Hydra Offense. It doesn't really matter whether the PKer cares about it or not. --Jon Pyre 04:29, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Template

What do you think?

	Cut Off My Head, I Dare You!
	This user or group supports the Hydra Defense in order to stamp out PKing in Malton.

--Peace Pipe 00:40, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh man... you really do support this, don't you? Enjoy your AIDS. --Cyberbob ^{DORIS CGR U!} 05:23, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Peace Pipe, good work! --Jon Pyre 04:49, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

I renounce my pking ways! Where's my new survivor-coat...----Secruss^|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA||EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ||MU|GN|C2008||20:20, 11 April 2008 (BST)

Not gonna work

Yeah, this isn't going to do jack. The general mood at the PKA is elation at the very idea. Listen, as I mentioned there... "It'll only give us more targets, and maybe effect the amount of ammo we need to kill (As I understand it, the number of a 'side' effects the hit/barricade ratio). Bah, I feel like a parrot."

Me feeling like a parrot means that I am agreeing with everyone else --Normal Phobic^C 20:13, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

This isn't intended to stop PKing, it just makes it counterproductive from a tactical perspective. It seems like most of the people who commented here do it for roleplaying reasons. If they don't care whether they're aiding the survivor side in a bizarre fashion good for em, they can keep enjoying their blasting. Also, do we need a new section for each individual comment? --Jon Pyre 22:20, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Yep.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 21:01, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Except that it already is counterproductive from a tactical perspective, this just attempts justifiable zerging. If you get pked when you get a revive revive someone. There, you just made it counterproductive from a tactical perspective and without coordinating alts to act based on each other.--Karek^maps?! 02:32, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Also... PKers don't PK because of some special tactical logic. PKers have different reasons for doing what they do, and the act itself doesn't make much sense (if you consider that they're getting minimum XP for their AP, as opposed to zombies who kill humans or vice versa). You're basically saying you know this won't stop PKers, but you think it will stop them because... wait, why? I fail to see the point, other than (as Karek and many others have said) to encourage zerging. Sheana ^{T / TMZ} 04:48, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

You know what? I think this is just about the dumbest idea I ever saw. Death Cultists kill to "help" the zombies and they do it for RP reasons so wearing a badge that has no in game meaning will not stop them. The rest of the PKers do it either to grief people, for a laugh, because they are RPing a crazy or because they enjoy the challenge of trying to get away with it. This policy will have no effect on any of those motives but might just tempt a few folk to shoot you for cheating! --Honestmistake 13:24, 6 February 2008 (UTC)