Talk:Malton Neighborhood Watch/Old

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Leader

Since...errm...the "leader" got banned, who will lead the group? Sonny Corleone WTF 13:58, 9 June 2006 (BST)

Disbanded, presumably. –Xoid STFU! 14:34, 9 June 2006 (BST)
How about it's ran by everyone? Like everyone can contribute. That way no one is leader of the page. Sonny Corleone WTF 03:48, 10 June 2006 (BST)
It would be the way a neighbourhood watch should be run, but the whole council of groups idea makes more sense than letting every man and his dog nominate someone. –Xoid STFU! 05:34, 10 June 2006 (BST)
I dunno. I think my dog could potentially have a lot to contribute. --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 05:39, 10 June 2006 (BST)

Uhhhh, since the group is supposed to be a conglomeration of everyone, it should still run. It's a program to benefit everyone - not just here because of Amazing. --Zod Rhombus 06:46, 12 June 2006 (BST)

Sure. It just needs a large enough council though to have a final say; allowing any one and his dog to add entries will only end up with stupidity and edit wars interspersed with arbitration cases. –Xoid STFU! 06:51, 12 June 2006 (BST)
True, and that's a problem that needs to be avoided. Since there are only two representatives on the council listing, we really need more people to step up to the plate. From all sides. Groups should nominate one person internally, then they should be the only ones representing the group. The trick is to recruit more groups. Any ideas? --Zod Rhombus 19:06, 13 June 2006 (BST)

Page

This page will just promote griefing. There is no way to prove a users claims. --Technerd 05:44, 7 May 2006 (BST)

However with something like this we can actuallly make bigger alliances, get most of the bigger groups to agree on something like this, and therefore, creating a much larger understanding of what little groups are pking and griefing. Like it or not these griefings are ruining a great game, we should at least try to keep UD from going under--1 4 of CDF 05:54, 7 May 2006 (BST)

Wow. "SA IS RUINING THE GAME" finally has a companion. Remember, kids - every time you kill a CDFer, another server dies. --Jimbo Bob ASS 07:22, 9 May 2006 (BST)
NOT THE SERVERS! MaulMachine U! 03:08, 14 May 2006 (BST)

Hall of fame?

I listed G-BUS under the standard heading for griefers, but I'm not really sure that covers it...shouldn't we be inducted into some sort of hall of fame? I mean we were good enough at it to prompt you to make a page about griefers, so it seems like we should get some sort of honors. -- Rueful 04:02, 8 May 2006 (BST)

Don't assume you can take all the credit, egomaniac. -- Amazing 06:51, 8 May 2006 (BST)
We would of course share it with the ASS and Faggots "umbrella of hate". Rasher 22:33, 11 May 2006 (BST)

Complaint Department

I'd like to clarify that our goal isn't specifically to harass CDF members, but that that is just a by product of our goal to grief Amazing. If Amazing either steps down, is publically executed by Zod Rhombus outside Caigar Mall, or puts the gold in the basket, we will stop. Our demands are humble. Rasher 22:30, 11 May 2006 (BST)

This isn't anyone's personal page right? So who decides that CDFers calling Gankbus griefers is more valid than Gankers calling CDFers griefers? Amazing is who, one man. That makes Technerd right, and this page's credibility go straight down the poopipe. -Banana¯\(o_º)/¯Bear 01:58, 12 May 2006 (BST)
Check out the text of the page to see what is to be posted in that section as per the guidelines. Note the comment was moved to the appropriate place, not deleted. -- Amazing 02:00, 12 May 2006 (BST)
So, does this mean that if someone makes claims of griefing you disagree with, you will leave them up? -Banana¯\(o_º)/¯Bear 02:04, 12 May 2006 (BST)
If they're not illegitimate, yeah. If someone claims the RRF keeps killing their pets IRL, that's obviously illegit. If someone says they are harassing them and it's believable, then it becomes a case where each side has their say -- On the Discussion page. I'll add this to the page's text soon to avoid further confusion. -- Amazing 02:31, 12 May 2006 (BST)
It still seems that having one person rule on legitimacy will limit the amount of faith that anyone can have in said page. Some sort of tribunal of equally active user's might alleviate this. -Banana¯\(o_º)/¯Bear 02:49, 12 May 2006 (BST)
I initially thought of having it done by vote. That, of course, would probably not work. I'd like to have an "arbitrator" type system where people can volunteer to help maintain it. Feel free to draw up some plans if you wish, otherwise I'll get to it soon enough. -- Amazing 03:00, 12 May 2006 (BST)
Arbitration actually sounds like a good Idea. What about a Represenitive system? Ie. All organised groups who want to participate can elect 1 member to be on the council. --Technerd 03:35, 12 May 2006 (BST)
That actually sounds perfect. Want to add it or shall I? -- Amazing 03:37, 12 May 2006 (BST)
Go ahead. Just dont get mad if a group you dont like nominates a member to be on the deciding council. --Technerd 03:38, 12 May 2006 (BST)
Way ahead of you. -- Amazing 03:42, 12 May 2006 (BST)
Popped in a quick edit. I'll juice it up later. For now we at least have the basics. It'll be nice to have a Zombie group or two for the "Man up, zombies killing you is not abuse." part of it. -- Amazing 04:00, 12 May 2006 (BST)


Request

Can I be the next Most Wanted? Please? I'm a harman traitor that sold out on his comrades. I've also bitched several people with my quick and snappy comebacks. I have a template list that's most likely longer than your genitalia. To top it off I have my own group desgined to make fun of harmanz trying to take Ridleybank. So please, can I be the most wanted? Sonny Corleone WTF 03:43, 26 May 2006 (BST)

We'll see! I'm sure it won't be a problem, but I'm about to pop the template up onto this page with a little write-up about putting it on pages and submitting requests for additions. Don't lose hope, though! -- Amazing 03:46, 26 May 2006 (BST)
Hooray, you Commie son of bitch. (If I piss off harmanz I'll be sure to make it to the top of the Most Wanted List. Maybe even bump Aquastorm off the FBI's Most Wanted List for being a Pedo.) Sonny Corleone WTF 03:47, 26 May 2006 (BST)

Most Wanted

So, now i am the most wanted zombie in Malton ? More wanted than Xyu and Petrjosko ? WOW... and to think that i considered myself nobody ingame. --hagnat mod 00:11, 27 May 2006 (BST)

We can suggest that they're up wanted too. Maybe even Grim. First we should ask them. Sonny Corleone WTF 00:16, 27 May 2006 (BST)
Just a note: I let you put yourself on the list once. There's a process involved at creation, and it should be followed in the future. -- Amazing 00:31, 27 May 2006 (BST)
Hagnat: Consider yourself the guenea pig here. Plus, I don't know if the folks you mentioned have the same "kick them when they're down and claim victory" stance. That was part of selecting the testing subject as well. -- Amazing 00:31, 27 May 2006 (BST)
You let me put myself up there? Aww...I thought I was that evil that I belonged there. Sonny Corleone WTF 00:34, 27 May 2006 (BST)

Guidelines

So what is considerd abuse? Just trying to clear up potential problems before they happen. --Technerd 03:24, 28 May 2006 (BST)

A Motion

I make a motion to have this taken over and turned into something usefull...like a list of characters most notorious in the game and community as a character. For example, the leader of the RRF would definately go on this list. Other canidates would be PKers and Non-PKer/Non-Zombies that are just popular in a bad way. Good example of PKers would be Pathetic Bill. --SirensT RR 02:05, 31 July 2006 (BST)

Seconded --Technerd CFT 02:34, 31 July 2006 (BST)
The point being what? Organized, legitimized griefing of people? –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 02:40, 31 July 2006 (BST)
Instead of making it in-game why not make it out of game? Like on the wiki. That way people don't get griefed in game. Not like it matters. I get combat revived more than I get killed anyway. Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 02:42, 31 July 2006 (BST)
Well, I was thinking it would be just for fun and bragging rights, but essencially, it would be no different than the PK Lists, excepting that it includes other groups of characters. But, you know, if you REALLY Want to grief people, go ahead. --SirensT RR 02:43, 31 July 2006 (BST)
Good grief. Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 02:44, 31 July 2006 (BST)
No. Not a good idea. If the names don't match the celebrity in question, then there will be some confusion. (There are enough imposters and clones in Malton to ensure that this is the case.) If the names do match the celebrity in person, then it's just another case of celebrity safari. Also: what makes someone famous? How do they get onto the list? Can they get off the list? Etc. –Xoid STFU! 03:13, 31 July 2006 (BST)
They get nominated by other people, I suppose. And we could always have a group of people active in the community (read: Forums) to vote on how notorious (or not) the canidate is. --SirensT RR 03:20, 31 July 2006 (BST)
Don't like it. It's like some mutant hybrid of wiki celebrity horn-tooting and legitimized griefing. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 03:39, 31 July 2006 (BST)
If it makes you feel anybetter, I'll nominate both my characters. Most people should know Sirens by now, and I've been approached in game by people I don't know calling me a celebrity. --SirensT RR 03:41, 31 July 2006 (BST)
No, you don't understand me. It's not that I want it under certain conditions, it's that I don't want it at all. I think the idea is bad. Sorry, but that's it. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 03:46, 31 July 2006 (BST)
Hell, I got healed by one of the Bills once. Been recognised once or twice. There was also that time in Nexus War when I got "Xoid? Man, you're my favourite mod!". That one in particular was a shock, I didn't realise I was famous. Hell, I still don't believe I am.<horn tootage> Um, back to the point… I still don't think that this is a good idea. –Xoid STFU! 03:49, 31 July 2006 (BST)
But I like being the second most wanted zombie in Malton... Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 03:53, 31 July 2006 (BST)
Forget it Sonny. Don't you remember? The Wiki is ruled by Luddites. --SirensT RR 06:51, 31 July 2006 (BST)
Very nice. Call anyone who disagrees with you a Luddite. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 08:20, 31 July 2006 (BST)
Oh it's not as simple as that. I make a motion to have a little fun, and I'm met with "ZOMG! POSSIBILITIES OF GRIEFING! KEEP THINGS AS THEY ARE! BURN THE WITCH!" There are so many people here that are so set in there ways that they would rather things continue to suck/stay useless than change anything, and they'll find any rediculous reason to keep things they way they are. It's not just this, but a ton of things.
Wake the f*ck up. This page was started by one man's vendettas against a group of people, and to grief them on sight. If it's not going to be deleted, the least we can do is to make it into something the community can participate in in the name of fun. UD is a game, and I thought this might be a part of that game, but like so many things before this, people would rather bitch about the idea than help to improve it. --SirensT RR 12:39, 31 July 2006 (BST)

I personally don't care about being griefed. Getting combat revived is better than being headshot. Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 14:58, 31 July 2006 (BST)

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