UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration/Poodle of doom vs DanceDanceRevolution

I'd simply like DDR to not talk to me, or respond directly to me any place on the wiki for a period of one month. -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 18:53, 30 May 2010 (BST)

I have no problems with this case, will accept arbitrators as they come though I prematurely accept all ops. --

 

 

 

 

02:19, 31 May 2010 (BST)

I'd like to see voleenteers.... -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 04:25, 31 May 2010 (BST)

As a after thought,... I'd like to see volenteers who are not, and never have been, wiki moderators, sysops, or bureaucrats due to a general predisposition... So anyone not falling into one of those categories,... feel free to volenteer. I'd even take poor old cornhole on this one... -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 04:34, 31 May 2010 (BST)

Wow, and here I thought you were only paranoid and thin skinned about me. Since I royally buttfucked Cornholioo, he won't be returning for another 2 weeks and this case will not be staying in limbo this long, I'll tell you that. Also, thanks for proving you harang other random users much, much more than I ever have. Expect a tough case for both Poodle and whoever chooses to arbitrate this case. --

 

 

 

 

04:57, 31 May 2010 (BST)

Piss off bitch! -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 05:25, 31 May 2010 (BST)

Err.. Okay? --

 

 

 

 

06:07, 31 May 2010 (BST)

Lulz this was actually funny, it's been a while since someone threw the "bitch" word around. Refreshing after all those homophobic/racial slurs. --Thadeous Oakley 20:04, 31 May 2010 (BST)

Damned i'm ruled out. fuck that shit cunt. xoxo 07:20, 31 May 2010 (BST)

I offer to arbitrate. Now Ross can't offer maybe other people will have a chance too!--Thadeous Oakley 08:50, 31 May 2010 (BST)

Ross isn't enough left field anyway so I wouldn't have accepted. --

 

 

 

 

11:33, 31 May 2010 (BST)

… You rang? ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 22:02, 31 May 2010 (BST)

I may be a sysop, but I offer to arbitrate anyway. I've been semi-active long enough to be judged to be relatively impartial. -- Cheese 13:12, 31 May 2010 (BST)

I offer to arbitrate on the grounds of complete ignorance of both parties. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 14:13, 31 May 2010 (BST)

I would be fine with you arbitrating. --

 

 

 

 

05:26, 2 June 2010 (BST)

I'm actually willing to accept Thad,... DDR? -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 18:10, 31 May 2010 (BST)

I'm afraid not. No offense to Thad, and it isn't because of the tiffs we used to have whilst I was an op. It's just I've had him as an arbitrator before, and while he wasn't bad, I would prefer someone I had more faith in to keep those legs strong, from start to finish. I would hesitantly put my faith in Cheese but since he is an op I guess no dice there. I'm still not decided about Lelouch, give me a day until all these assignments and tests are over and I'll be able to take this case head-on. --

 

 

 

 

18:54, 31 May 2010 (BST)

ReSpecT. Yeah, my first case was far from perfect, due several factors but that's something I learned from. Regardless, I respect your choice and now at-least I don't have to be impartial and can just voice my opinion, so frankly I'm not that disappointed.

And now I'm done with that, let me say something about these cases of no-contact that have been popping up relentlessly for a while (I think SA started a trend). Hostility between users isn't a good thing, but far too often arbitration is asked without this being necessary. Maybe this sounds old-fashioned but can't people talk it over, and for example agree to give each other some space without needing a third party to do this for them? And then restricting the use of talk pages; the cause of this cases doesn't absolve from talk page harassment but from heated discussion elsewhere. It's just all seems the arbitrator is acting more like a social counselor then an arbitrator. --Thadeous Oakley 20:00, 31 May 2010 (BST)

Yeah, already tried to take a week off. I actually wanted more time than that though. My group prefers me to handel the wiki affairs... and I feel bad about limiting play experience for 15 or so other people... especially when it's such a simple thing to do. I just don't want DDR hassling me over anything I do. I don't need it any more. -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 21:43, 31 May 2010 (BST)

Just to add another non-op option, I'd offer my services. Granted, I've been active on the wiki for just some months now. But as that case is just a request for a mutual talk page ban currently, it should be straightforward enough for my weight class. Also, I'm completely ignorant about the argument, and have no real ties to either party. -- Spiderzed▋ 19:39, 31 May 2010 (BST)

I respectfully decline. You need to read my original complaint... -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 19:57, 31 May 2010 (BST)

If what you want is what I think you want, mainly a complete ban on DDR responding to anything you do on the wiki anywhere, that might prove problematic to enforce or to even pass muster. Keep admin pages as pages where anyone can address the other one, and keep it a ban on user talk and group talk pages for your groups. 20:00, 31 May 2010 (BST)

I have read it up (including the A/VB request for a voluntary ban), and frankly, Mis has nailed the issue. Mutual bans from user talk pages and group talk pages are standard drama-coolant procedure, with plenty of precedence. Anything beyond that brings too much trouble. I'd not completely rule out the possibility of a ban that goes further. But that would require really pressing reasons for it to outweigh the accompanying problems, at least if I arbitrate. -- Spiderzed▋ 20:16, 31 May 2010 (BST)

That's what you both misunderstood. I don't care what he says, and where. I just don't want the bitch talking to me. If I say something, someplace,.. I just want DDR to ignore it... like I've never said it. And not include me on any conversation, reference me, or respond directly to me. -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 21:40, 31 May 2010 (BST)

Dude, no arbitrator can rule that DDR has to completely deny your existence. That goes beyond any precedent, rule or dare I say logic there is. --Thadeous Oakley 21:47, 31 May 2010 (BST)

Not really dude... if I ignore you... I simply go about ignoring you. Simply avoiding the situation. For example... I didn't have to respond to your comment there, but could have responded to the one above you from spiderzed... Just to be ignored by him would be wonderful. And it's only for a month. -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 21:51, 31 May 2010 (BST)

I defintively decline then. The potential A/VB spamming for arbie breaking would be alone reason enough that I'd _never_ rule such a thing. Good luck finding an arbiter who would consider it. You'll need it, and I hope you know that. -- Spiderzed▋ 21:54, 31 May 2010 (BST)

Yeah that wouldn't work, Poodle. What if you take him to A/A again? What if he gets promoted again, and responds to an A/VB case you posted in? It's silly. 21:57, 31 May 2010 (BST)Wait what? 19:40, 31 May 2010 (BST)

I thought it was silly to tell cornhole he couldn't use the administration pages too... but hey, it happened. -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 22:04, 31 May 2010 (BST)

Question. Who actually contributes to the wiki via admin pages, DDR or Cornholioo? Don't be an idiot. 22:07, 31 May 2010 (BST)

I'm pretty sure I qualify. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 22:02, 31 May 2010 (BST)

I'm cool with that if DDR accepts.... -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 22:10, 31 May 2010 (BST)

Sorry, I like Rev but I want someone more active so they understand where Poodle is coming from. --

 

 

 

 

05:24, 2 June 2010 (BST)

To clarify what I said though,... I don't know why people don't seem to understand. I don't care if he talks on the same pages I do. I don't care if he reponds to other people on the same page. I just don't want him to direct comments towards me. I don't want him to respond to me in anyway... if he responds to something else, anyone else said, in the same conversation, it's fine. Just not to me. -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 22:10, 31 May 2010 (BST)

I volunteer User:Unsuspicious 23:24, 31 May 2010 (BST)

Um,... piss the hell off? -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 03:28, 1 June 2010 (BST)

I volunteer, cause I am definatly not biased and most certanily impartial :D --^TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 17:31, 1 June 2010 (BST)

I'd be willing to let you have a go. --

 

 

 

 

05:24, 2 June 2010 (BST)

I would be willing to try arbying this one... --Honestmistake 19:03, 1 June 2010 (BST)

I reject you, sorry Honest. --

 

 

 

 

05:24, 2 June 2010 (BST)

No problem, I kinda thought you might ;) --Honestmistake 07:51, 2 June 2010 (BST)

I will offer to arbitrate on the grounds that I have no clue what is going on right now. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 22:53, 1 June 2010 (BST)

I am fine with you. --

 

 

 

 

05:24, 2 June 2010 (BST)

Self-Harming Poodle

This is absolute garbage. I get accused of harassment that I never did, get threatened to be put into a restraining order that shouldn't happen, and rather than do what was done below I participate in order to fight for my right to do what I do on this wiki. I trawl through 300 of Poodle's last edits to demonstrate with insurmountable evidence that not only do I have no record of harassment or personal abuse but that he actually perpetrates in such acts against users he has nothing to do with like Cornholioo, and that he makes more "personal abusive" comments to other people (see a couple above) than I ever did to him (which I did once), and he ignores this arbitration case he brought to request a self ban still with the moping attitude. Archive this shit. Now. If not, I will. WITH A VENGEANCE.

In fact, fuck it, after he has spent the last 3 weeks telling everyone I'm the reason he's leaving, I'm tempted to just give everyone the evidence I had, here right now to close this chapter for good. --

 

 

 

 

08:33, 3 June 2010 (BST)

According to Protections, Poodle has a self-imposed ban for one year. Might as well archive this ASAP since he won't be here to participate in the arbitration. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 09:22, 3 June 2010 (BST)