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I am not automated

I suggest you not go back on Kevan's page for a long time. People are going to flame you to death for that. Some people seem to think he is sort of a god.. or something. There are a lot of steps before a suggestion ever goes before kevan. If the future just ask me if you need help making a suggestion. Whoever told you to go and make a suggestion on Kevan's page wasn't doing you any favors. Stop listening to them. --Airborne88Zzz1.JPGT|Z.Quiz|PSS 23:58, 7 April 2008 (BST)

In that case, I'll remove it, Why is flaming noobs allowed >_>? And I guess Kevan is the creator of Malton/UD.
Flaming newbies is allowed because it is isn't disallowed. :-/ And ya, Kevan is the creator of UD. I checked your history and didn't see you having a mentor. I am willing to help you if you'd like. You should also start hitting this button Sign.png at the end of your posts it will drop you signature stamp and show who you are (considered polite and proper formatting)--Airborne88Zzz1.JPGT|Z.Quiz|PSS 00:27, 8 April 2008 (BST)

I will do that most of the time >.> Just not right now <.< --Dr Cory Bjornson 00:52, 8 April 2008 (BST) Atleast on other pages

K, well let me know if you need anything. I will keep an eye out for your edits. Cheers--Airborne88Zzz1.JPGT|Z.Quiz|PSS 00:57, 8 April 2008 (BST)

Some Ideas

AJAX Version/Server?

I have a teacher/mentor (I guess you could call him) I mentioned this to him, He said something about an AJAX version.

Then there's this: [1]

Also, Malton Media, Basically TV, Broadcasting stations, TVs give you descriptions of what's on it, etc. A Telegraph? And Quicktime for real Radio.. Or just some background music..

CCTV Cameras?

Power systems, Stations..

Sewers..

A snowy region/server, Skis, Snow Boards, Ski Poles, Lifts, Jackets, etc.

Kind of a stupid idea, but, Vehicles? Added. Bikes, Found in PDs, Auto repair, etc. No fuel, Breakable, repairable. Van, Car, Truck, SUV, SWAT Van, Armoured Bank Truck, Taxi. Found in streets occasionally, Needs fuel, needs to be fixed, Breakable, Like mobile buidling in some cases, not all provide good protection, New mainanancre skill? Derbis can block the road, It can be cleared, In front of Ruined/Ransacked buidlings.

Moar hatz.

Lantern, Flashlight, Batteries, Candle, Increases search odd when on..

A harpoon.

Construction worker class, Construction skill, Tools?

Another Zombie class, maybe.. Zombies are too powerful already >.>

Laptops, PDAs? (Function TBA)

EMT Class?

A Pathfinder class, Scout plus a knife and close combat/Hand to hand?

A radioman (>.>) with Radios? Transmitter?

-Constructive criticism pl0x. [/Rant]

--Dr Cory Bjornson 03:07, 7 April 2008 (BST)

there is a suggestions page for this sort of shit <_< --Skyvia 03:22, 7 April 2008 (BST)

Read the FAQ already, sheesh... We have a Suggestions page. Try it... --WanYao 03:24, 7 April 2008 (BST)
Too lazy >.> --Dr Cory Bjornson 04:14, 7 April 2008 (BST)
Lazy people don't get any special dispensation or priority feedback. Please read the FAQ and use the Suggestions page. --Kevan 23:51, 7 April 2008 (BST)

<_<

Pretty sure its against the wiki to remove other peoples content from other users talk pages--Skyvia 01:27, 8 April 2008 (BST)

Stop trolling, Besides it was (Maybe not) flaming >.>, And did it honestly serve a purpose? Want the Noob B&? Lawl, It has been returned, Minus my Spam on All Godly Kevan's page.--Dr Cory Bjornson 02:49, 8 April 2008 (BST)
Er, did you actually just accuse OTHERS of trolling? Hon, you're a prime example. Seriously, don't remove stuff from other people's talk pages. Sheana T / TMZ 04:39, 8 April 2008 (BST)
Sheana (Or Alias_), I Didn't intentionally, This is something stupid blown out of proportion. Also, Don't base things off of what you hear, only.. :(--Dr Cory Bjornson 02:26, 10 April 2008 (BST)
I added suggestions to Kevan's page (Of course, as everything, It's blown out of proportion)
"People are going to flame you to death for that. Some people seem to think he is sort of a god.. or something. There are a lot of steps before a suggestion ever goes before kevan. If the future just ask me if you need help making a suggestion. Whoever told you to go and make a suggestion on Kevan's page wasn't doing you any favors. Stop listening to them. --Airborne88Zzz1.JPGT|Z.Quiz|PSS 23:58, 7 April 2008 (BST)"
I removed my stuff, and returned what everyone is harassing about.
Oh, wait, my crappy suggestions are back, Can you people Go awai now? --Dr Cory Bjornson 22:54, 8 April 2008 (BST) So I can perhaps stop having the urge to break my head in the Monitor?

You not paying attention is not flaming in the slightest, and yes Kevan is God :D. If help is offered to you (like it has been several times from Air/88) take it in the future --Skyvia 01:53, 9 April 2008 (BST)

Might I add said help was offered AFTER all of those edits occurred? Also, Trolling(I haven't looked at your page, or recent edits, or..):Bringing this to my page and threatening some noob with the B&nHammer.

"remember to remove the entire conversation, not only your comments. This only applies when the discussion barely started. After the discussion already matured, it's up to the owner of the talk page to handle the fate of the discussion (but you can always try to ask him to remove it", It wasn't matured, I didn't remove it all because people came to bug me about removing their comments.

I see this setting off a chain reaction of events blown out of proportion, leading to my b&nning, perhaps I should quit while I'm ahead.. --Dr Cory Bjornson 23:57, 9 April 2008 (BST)


there is a suggestions page for this sort of shit <_< --Skyvia 03:22, 7 April 2008 (BST)

Read the FAQ already, sheesh... We have a Suggestions page. Try it... --WanYao 03:24, 7 April 2008 (BST)
Lazy people don't get any special dispensation or priority feedback. Please read the FAQ and use the Suggestions page. --Kevan 23:51, 7 April 2008 (BST)

Removing your own edits is Vandalism, or your saying Cleaning your own graffiti of a wall is going to get you arrested? --Dr Cory Bjornson 22:46, 8 April 2008 (BST)
Well, think of it as "public record". If everyone could remove their edits, there would be huge holes everywhere. You have a degree of control over your own page/talk.. The edits you left on Kevan's page sort of became his property once you hit the save button. You have only made just a few simple mistakes, this will all blow over and be forgotten. I encourage you to stay and be an active member of the wiki. If you need me, just shout. --Airborne88Zzz1.JPGT|Z.Quiz|PSS 02:32, 10 April 2008 (BST)
So.. Where's your groups Area of Ops?--Dr Cory Bjornson 03:02, 10 April 2008 (BST)
Zomcon is my group (our forum is down), but we have merged with Phoenix Security Services for the time being. We operate in the NW of Malton around Molebank--Airborne88Zzz1.JPGT|Z.Quiz|PSS 03:12, 10 April 2008 (BST)
I am in Havercroft waiting for a Revive? I might like to find you guise, I'm trying to join USAI, Currently. MalTel is asleep. :/ --Dr Cory Bjornson 03:39, 10 April 2008 (BST)
USAI is a solid group. I have an Alt in the USAI National Guard, and have known/fought with JohnnyLunchPal for well over a year now. You can't really go wrong with those guys. But you better be ready to run and gun. You need to log in at least once every other day. Good luck with that and tell Johnny I said hi.--Airborne88Zzz1.JPGT|Z.Quiz|PSS 03:45, 10 April 2008 (BST)
Note try this for a revive: [2] Try and get to a cemetery and make the request.--Airborne88Zzz1.JPGT|Z.Quiz|PSS 03:52, 10 April 2008 (BST)
I entered a request. Oh, and how about a Revive, I'll wander over to a MoleBank point in a few days, If i'm not revived in Havercroft. Or maybe Zomcon and Meh could wander south East?--Dr Cory Bjornson 04:13, 10 April 2008 (BST)
Give DEM a few days to respond to your request. If they can't I will e-mail you a spot in Molebank and give you a jab. --Airborne88Zzz1.JPGT|Z.Quiz|PSS 07:56, 10 April 2008 (BST)
Well, I got a revive, A zombie almost got me on the route to a safe house, I had 50 HP thanks to a marauding doctor. However, As usual, A zombie got me while sleeping last night :/ To Molebank? --Dr Cory Bjornson 20:40, 11 April 2008 (BST)

In other words, If everyone can forget this, let's kick some Zombie Ass >.>?

"This only applies when the discussion barely started (before anyone else try to quote me to support their actions). After the discussion already matured, it's up to the owner of the talk page to handle the fate of the discussion (but you can always try to ask him to remove it).", Though? --Dr Cory Bjornson 02:45, 10 April 2008 (BST)

Ya, and most people are reasonable and will. Kevan is just kinda "high profile". I am sure it will blow over. I am actually shocked this page is not full of angry responses. How wonderfully odd.--Airborne88Zzz1.JPGT|Z.Quiz|PSS 02:53, 10 April 2008 (BST)
Thanks AxeHack'sEvilTwin! I did sort of the samething to Sonney when I started editing. Here is a suggestion: Create ans archive page User talk:Dr Cory Bjornson/Archive <--click this to make it. Wait about a week, and if no one relies to any of this stuff slowly start moving off your talk page. After 1 month it should all be gone. Nobody looks in archives.. --Airborne88Zzz1.JPGT|Z.Quiz|PSS 03:06, 10 April 2008 (BST)

Moderation

If you want to remove a discussion you started from another user/group/whatever talk page, remember to remove the entire conversation, not only your comments. This only applies when the discussion barely started (before anyone else try to quote me to support their actions). After the discussion already matured, it's up to the owner of the talk page to handle the fate of the discussion (but you can always try to ask him to remove it). The removal of replied comments from a discussion (even your own) can be seen as an act of vandalism, and could lead to your editing privileges to be revoked. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 19:31, 8 April 2008 (BST)

Forum Name

How about Survivor Coalition Forums or SC Forums?--MikhailA 02:16, 19 May 2008 (BST)

External Military Reports

I've fixed up the set you posted based on the timestamp you placed at the end. BST is British Summer Time, which is GMT+1, if that helps. Also, for future reference, I'd suggest making each place name referenced in the reports into a link. --Nell Faircliff 01:04, 19 April 2008 (BST)

Please follow the format used by the other entries on the page. --Nell Faircliff 23:59, 20 April 2008 (BST)

The timestamps are supposed to reflect the time that the reports are posted, not necessarily the time they appeared in-game. They don't need to be altered after the fact. --Nell Faircliff 06:36, 1 May 2008 (BST)

Oh. I thought they were supposed to reflect the time they where uh.. published over radio? What's the point..? --Dr Cory Bjornson 10:55, 1 May 2008 (BST)

Safe House

The safehouse is currently in zombie hands (as am I) so it may not be the best time to visit but the house is in Peppardville if you want to come by after we rebuild - Vantar 21:56, 15 April 2008 (BST)

Response to your coughs

Well if by a group in Judgewood you mean the Streltsy, first of all their wiki says they are nomadic, and i didn't know of any connection between them and Judgwood (infact the streltsy leader says he saw our tag in south blythville. But any way, we are extremely spread out for the moment all over Malton recruiting. So a group in judgwood may have seen one of our tags. Also the streltsy are insane.--Robert de Bruce 16:38, 1 July 2008 (BST)Robert de Bruce

Signature

Dr Cory Bjornson, I would greatly appreciate it if you would kindly not use the same exact signature template as mine. As it currently stands, your signature template is a copy of mine, barring of course the links. Please change your signature template to something distinctly different from mine. Do note that I have been contributing to this wiki for a long time and there would be much confusion if people were to mistake your signature for mine. Thank you. Much love. ~AriedartinTalkA KS J abt all 05:35, 25 May 2008 (BST)

Good lord, it's not exactly that much different, is it? Perhaps you might want to change the colours somewhat. Do you like red? You might like to use this:
Dr Cory BjornsonTalkThe Monolith
<small><span style="color:black; background:#DD2222; padding-left:3px; padding-right:3px; border:solid 1px">[[User:Dr_Cory_Bjornson|Dr Cory Bjornson]] • <span style="vertical-align:text-top"><sup><small>[[User_talk:Dr_Cory_Bjornson|''Talk'']]</small></sup></span> • <span style="vertical-align:text-top"><sup><small>[[The Monolith|'''The Monolith''']]</small></sup></span></span></small>
Or green:
Dr Cory BjornsonTalkThe Monolith
<small><span style="color:black; background:#00DD22; padding-left:3px; padding-right:3px; border:solid 1px">[[User:Dr_Cory_Bjornson|Dr Cory Bjornson]] • <span style="vertical-align:text-top"><sup><small>[[User_talk:Dr_Cory_Bjornson|''Talk'']]</small></sup></span> • <span style="vertical-align:text-top"><sup><small>[[The Monolith|'''The Monolith''']]</small></sup></span></span></small>
In any case, it's still too similar to mine. Thank you. ~AriedartinTalkA KS J abt all 06:18, 27 May 2008 (BST)

If I may I kindly repeat myself, your signature is still far too similar to mine. Similar signatures have the ability to cause confusion, especially when others have learned to recognise them by format and appearance. I implore you to modify your signature as soon as possible. Sure, you may use my code as a base, but make sure that the end product appears more different than simply throwing in <i> and <sup>. ~AriedartinTalkA KS J abt all 07:53, 2 June 2008 (BST)

Beta Testing

If you're still interested in the beta testing, of the newest version of the game please drop me a line at my talk page... This beta is Affliction of course. -- Rogue  Sergeant Sarge1.png 03:54, 8 May 2008 (BST)

Alright, let me get the last graphical tune ups dealt with and the sucker is all yours to test. -- Rogue  Sergeant Sarge1.png 01:57, 9 May 2008 (BST)

Free Calling

Just to let you know, the '50 uses per charge' thing for cell phones was part of my suggestion - Free Calling and Charges. That's why you can't find it as a separate suggestion anywhere. --Tselita 10:09, 22 May 2008 (BST)

Here's the link. http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Suggestion:20080410_Free_Calling_and_Charges

Feel free to put it on PR Malton --Tselita 15:57, 22 May 2008 (BST)

LCD

I guess we probably wont be heading to Dulston :/ we are officially disbanding and I put a submission for LCD on the historical voting page, it would be really great if you could vote for us.

Warmest regards,
(Cortonna)DarthRevan 05:55, 10 June 2008 (BST)

EMPRS to PRocess

Moved this page under your user space since it seems to be something you are working on and not an actual article. It is now at User:Dr Cory Bjornson/EMRPs to PRocess--– Nubis NWO 17:41, 21 June 2008 (BST)

I'm back

Anyways, I am back to Urban Dead. After a leave of two months, I will be returning to full duties. While I'm at it, I'm going to spice up the SC page. Tell me how you think it is once i'm done.--MikhailA 03:00, 7 June 2008 (BST)

I'll try, but most of my group is off somewhere else. I'll move Mikhail up there though.--MikhailA 03:08, 7 June 2008 (BST)

The page is great, but I dunno whats happening with the SC. Me and Orion Koffman, and our groups, are in Shearbank. - Tayth | Talk

Regarding Alliance

Your idea is a great idea and I fully support it, yet we need to plan this. My idea is to create a massive organization such as D.E.M. made of smaller groups.
First, we must have the leaders of said groups signify the alliance by agreeing to it. We can do this by posting a message for the alliance on their group page. They will then say if they support it or not. If yes, they become part of our alliance.
Second, we must decide upon a name. I was thinking of the United Alliance, United Coalition, Survivors' Alliance, or the Survivors' Coalition. Once we decide upon that, I can set up a page for it.
Third, we must set up a form of rule. This can be decided upon once we set up the page. Lastly, we must register ourselves as an organization on the groups page.
It would be extremely helpful if you could contact the leaders of said groups and get their commitments. Just give a little mesage about what this is about, tell them they will retain group rights, and then ask for their signature signifying their commitment.
While you do this, I will figure out the logistics of this and also ask my own group to vote on the issue as I would lke to leave it up to them. Most likely, they will accept.
Thank you.--MikhailA 21:46, 15 May 2008 (BST)

I made a post (I guess, Or edit) to the Lejnair page. Survivor Coalition, Perhaps? 05:31, 16 May 2008 (BST)
Sure, I like the name. However, I think we should have a vote once we get the other people on board.--MikhailA 23:14, 16 May 2008 (BST)

In response to your offer, we'd love an alliance. - Tayth | Talk (on behalf of the Cottesloe Cheesecakes)

And, we we thinking of moving to Dentonside, anyway - Tayth | Talk
We're moving up to Dulston soon, just helping out at Fort Creedy, theres an incoming attack by The Dead - Tayth | Talk (on behalf of the Cottesloe Cheesecakes)
Lol, pegging it to Dulston now =D Where should we meet up with your group?- Tayth | Talk (on behalf of the Cottesloe Cheesecakes
Ok, Slade Arms it is. We're all 17 blocks west and 40 south of there. See you tomorrow =D - Tayth | Talk
I died... waiting for a revive about 3 squares from Slade Arms. Don't know location of the other 2 members of CCC - Tayth | Talk 10:30, 28 May 2008 (BST)
I'm fixed, and Disc10s also there, i see. I updated my status on Survivor Coalition. Also, would you like me and Disc10 to make a forum. We've had a quite a lot of experience at making them. - Tayth | Talk
My gmail is jltaithe@googlemail.com, as well.

Regarding a possible MU alliance

Yes, Dr. Cory Bjornson the MU shares this common goal of unifying many survivor groups under a large network of shared information, with the intention of actively and strategically countering THE DEAD. However this goal can be accomplished many ways and the MU is open, willing and commited to making this happen. If you wish to contact myself to discuss these things further please do so in a more private manner via e-mail at maltonunderground@gmail.com --Paper walls 00:07, 23 May 2008 (BST)

Also forgive my ignorance but I wish to make a more formal signature like your own, with links ect... How may I do this? Thanks in advance. --Paper walls 00:15, 23 May 2008 (BST)

Thank you for the advice. Check your chat. : 0 paper walls + Talk + Malton Underground 03:02, 23 May 2008 (BST)


I was unsure where to write this, so I am going to use this subcategory. LCD is dead, there are I think three of us and I am probably going to officially disband the group soon. We would go for historical, I would appreciate if you could help us out with the voting, it would be very kind :). But that doesnt mean you've seen the last of us, we are talking with the CDF (Crossman) our brothers and sisters (for we share same origins) and if things work out smoothly there will be a sizable force in Darvall Heights (which is actually not so safe as of now) . What do you have in mind? I can send an emissary to Dulston perhaps.

Best regards,
(Cortonna) DarthRevan 09:47, 30 May 2008 (BST)

Dr. Bjornson, are you in Dulston? I have arrived at the slade arms. paper walls + Talk + Malton Underground 12:02, 30 May 2008 (BST)


They are discussing it I believe. I hope they will merge, as I hope you will. I could really use your help. Like any new group, you are more active than most of MU's members, although that quickly is changing. What do you say sir? paper walls + Talk + Malton Underground 01:08, 20 June 2008 (BST) P.S. I caught you copypaste.... Look @ my page.

Yeah, all your dates say may 22. Any who, DON'T abandon Dulson. MU works with CotSC and the are based in Dunningwood close by. Having a safe house and allies in Dulston would be great. Also you would be welcome in any MU or allies safe houses when traveling. I also would like your help with the coalition, one of MU's main goals. You are welcome to change your tag if you wish. You don't have to. paper walls + Talk + Malton Underground 05:25, 20 June 2008 (BST)

Dulston

It may be some time or very shortly. We're plotting to launch a targeted revivifying offensive in short order, thanks to some generous support from lingering pockets of survivors in neighboring suburbs. Are you in the neighborhood? -- Ottari 23:47, 18 April 2008 (BST)

I'm still a level 1 (>.>), I was tossed into Pashenton while the hordes were moving in, Been Dead most of my time playing to date, Currently in Kinch Heights. --Dr Cory Bjornson 01:12, 19 April 2008 (BST)
Yeah, I'm pretty familiar with the layout. Right now, we've got some things back up and running, albeit very slowly. Otto Street revive point is getting cleared slowly but surely, and Dulston Alliance operatives are alternating between NT facilities in the NE of Dulston and the western end of the suburb. Even though The Dead have moved on, a new group called the Angry Vagina's have popped up. Still, if you're looking for a revive, feel free to head north. I'll make arrangements for it. While you're at it, visit the Dulston Alliance forums. :-) Lots of fun to be had there, and when The Monolith grows a bit, we would happily call you an ally. -- Ottari 05:20, 25 April 2008 (BST)

I see you updated our BlackoutList. Thank you for that. DeadJimmy is a real pain in the a**, isn't he? Feel free to post any locations with destroyed generators on our Talk Page. And of course: Feel free to join our group, we could really use some helping hands.-- [ ρsych°Lychεε ]  T 16:04, 12 May 2008 (BST)

EMRs to Process

I've created EMRP: Reports to Process. A page for EMRs that need to be put into their correct pages on the wiki. A bot does the job so it saves people editing tons of pages on their own. I thought you might want to know since you keep copies in User:Dr Cory Bjornson/EMRPs to PRocess. They're a bit out of date and shouldn't be added, but future reports can be. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 12:23, 5 July 2008 (BST)

It adds reports to EMRP: SuburbName and Talk: EMRP: SuburbName The EMRP and EMRM both use these pages for reference. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 18:27, 7 July 2008 (BST)
I re-read your message and I've just realised I missed the point. The bot doesn't put reports into External Military/Archive. I didn't know it existed until I looked more closely at the page just now! I can have it dump reports there too I guess, though the number of pages recording these things seems overkill now. What do you think it should do? 19:35, 8 July 2008 (BST)
Yeah, the bot doesn't touch External Military or External Military/Archive at the moment, though it could do if needed. Currently, just pages prefixed with "EMRP: something" are changed which are in turn transcluded onto the EMRP and EMRM pages. It wouldn't be impossible to do something along the lines of what you are suggesting either. However, since my stuff is programmed in C#, it's not compatible with PHP AFAIK. (C# might be in some fashion, though I didn't code with it in mind) Which means that a PHP script could just store the reports and I could have the bot recover that list. That said, it seems like a lot of extra work for what (now) currently takes a copy/paste job and a minute to remove the excess stuff on the part of any random user. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 21:45, 8 July 2008 (BST)

Fixed your sig for you

Saw your question and fixed your sig for you. Cheers! ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 02:50, 14 July 2008 (BST)

ELT's BlackOut-List

Hi Doc, our list is GKers-only. All other crimes or suspects are to be reported directly to the DA.--[ ρsych°Lychεε ]  T 08:29, 18 July 2008 (BST)

Yo

Hey dude, sorry for my abruptness, I thought you were one of the dead trying to get a rise out of me... They've been all over us as of late... anywho... if you have something specific in mind... give me a shout... --Marty Banks (aka. Mundane) <DHPD> 03:54, 2 July 2008 (BST)

Survivor Coalition

The history of this page was purged as all pages were recently. It no longer has a history. Do you still want it?--– Nubis NWO 02:37, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

malhalla template

...is totally awesome! How can Malhalla make this so that it can be used elsewhere? --Maghat 04:08, 26 August 2008 (BST)

Another grateful Malhalla member

Thanks again for the Malhalla template. How awesome. I added it to my user page as well.

If/when you make an alt and want to join Malhalla, we would be honored to have you in our midst.

Seeya in the burbs...--Pastor Rob 02:50, 6 September 2008 (BST)

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No idea what you meant on my talk page.LemonHead7t7 *̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡|͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|]]| ̡̡̡ ̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡*̡͌l̡* Talk/PDA/Red Rum/MOB 05:18, 19 June 2008 (BST)

you're weird dont talk to me any more. :DLemonHead7t7 *̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡|͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|]]| ̡̡̡ ̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡*̡͌l̡* Talk/PDA/Red Rum/MOB 05:26, 19 June 2008 (BST)