UDWiki:Open Discussion/The Suggestions System

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As mentioned within User:HighGenGrue/Why The Suggestion System Sucks: A rant by HighGenGrue and Asema, a small group of users has a beef with the Suggestions System. This is a place to mediate and balance the opinions shown therein, and discuss why or why not the suggestions system may require changes. --Asema 04:39, 25 September 2008 (BST)

I noticed that on the reasons why a suggestion will not be accepted page, it mainly describes attitudes, not policy. Policy can be changed, but you can't really change attitude, and people have the right to vote how they wish. I would, however, support an Undupe vote, or a new policy allowing dupeish suggestions to be re-tried after about a year or so.--Drawde ^{Talk To Me! DORIS Red Rum Defend Ridleybonk! I know Nothing!} 17:51, 1 October 2008 (BST)

I think you've failed to recognise that one of the key reasons that, let's say (picking a number, for the sake of argument) 90% of suggestions are rejected is because they deserve to be. On the subject of the pinata: whether it's there by design or by accident, it's developed into an interesting part of the game-play. Removing it would remove fun for many players. Assuming that a part of game-play is fun for many players, and also not game-breaking; why would anyone want to remove it? And on the subject of the proposed undupe vote: I proposed it, and having given it some thought, and listened to the opinion of others, I dropped it as a poor idea. As it is now, if enough people are voting to Keep a suggestion, Dupe votes are generally ignored and the suggestion is allowed through the system. Occasionally, the Dupe vote is abused. However, in such a case, you have the option of seeking arbitration, rather than changing the entire system. (That's what arbitration is for: to settle conflicts of opinion over edits to this wiki.) Finally, you seem big on the criticism of the current system, but lacking in proposed solutions, excepting the slight piggy-backing of something I suggested and then dropped shortly thereafter. It's more helpful, when presenting (perceived) problems if you also take the time to propose well considered solutions. --Funt Solo ^QT 19:59, 1 October 2008 (BST)

I didn't propose any solutions, myself, because the solution I'd offer would either not be taken seriously or taken seriously, both of which would produce a negative result. That is, to remove users from the process. --Asema 23:56, 6 October 2008 (BST)

Silly question

As a person who does try to give constructive suggestions feedback, im just wondering, are the people writing here part of the current process?

We all know that the suggestion systems is full of insults, and name calling, where it only seems a waste of times because people who are SHOUTING THE LOUDEST are the most active. There are some users (may i mention swiers) who do give feedback and do show patience. Surely if more people gave regular,constructive criticism, the process would be more welcoming? I'm all for discussion, but more involvement would be better. Go on, I challenge you all! Go to talk/suggestions now, feedback on the top suggestions. Another user diagrees with you? Ignore them!, ask them why they don't agree! Give them options/choices!. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 20:09, 1 October 2008 (BST)