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| ===[[User:Kirsty_cotton|Kirsty Cotton]]===
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| During my time on the wiki, I've worked hard to make improvements, be friendly and generally encourage civil discussion. I'm proud of my history of never over-analyzing wikilaw and being reasonable in past discussions. My janitorial work speaks for itself. But rather than just tell you wonderful things about myself, ask some questions and I'll respond with wonderful things about myself. --<sub>[[User:Kirsty_cotton|<span style="color: lightgrey">K</span>]]</sub> 12:43, 1 April 2013 (BST)
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| *'''Question''' Mahna Mahna? --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 15:16, 1 April 2013 (BST)
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| *:Are you belittling my sysop jog? --<sub>[[User:Kirsty_cotton|<span style="color: lightgrey">K</span>]]</sub> 18:10, 1 April 2013 (BST)
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| *'''Against''' - April Fools jokes are so 2006--{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 19:01, 2 April 2013 (BST)
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| *:"Are so 2006?" You got any more zingers there, chief? I mean shit, I guess you came up with that, right? I've never heard it use that way. +1 for creativity. --<sub>[[User:Kirsty_cotton|<span style="color: lightgrey">K</span>]]</sub> 22:57, 2 April 2013 (BST)
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| *'''Question''' What's your daily occuptation? Do you work, go to highschool, college? --[[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: darkblue; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: gold; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 14:34, 3 April 2013 (BST)
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| **'cause we've always cared so much about this in the past. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 08:17, 4 April 2013 (BST)
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| **Creepy. -[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 21:20, 4 April 2013 (BST)
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| *:I work. To possibly explain some of my wikilawyering, at my job I have to write in such a way as to be legally binding. For example, I learned an early lesson that should and shall aren't the same. --<sub>[[User:Kirsty_cotton|<span style="color: lightgrey">K</span>]]</sub> 22:51, 4 April 2013 (BST)
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| *'''Vouch''' - I butt heads with Kirsty but I like him/her. Doesn't take shit but in my experience hasn't lost their head during disputes. And I'm pretty sure he can't be Axe Hack. I'll be pretty upset if he's Axe Hack. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 08:05, 4 April 2013 (BST)
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| *'''Vouch''' - Sure, why not. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 08:17, 4 April 2013 (BST)
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| *'''Question''' Is this some last ditch attempt to keep you interested in this wiki? what happens if you fail this bid? why now? --{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>14:43, 4 April 2013 </small>
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| *:Actually no. I fully expect to fail, just thought I'd see how it went. As for why, the recent drama, mostly my fault (sorry), has made me believe we need differing voices in the sysop team. --<sub>[[User:Kirsty_cotton|<span style="color: lightgrey">K</span>]]</sub> 22:51, 4 April 2013 (BST)
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| *'''Question''' - Mind if I cycle this? I got a chuckle out of it when you posted it on April Fool's Day (I thought the self-deprecating humor was clever), but it's beginning to outstay its welcome. If you want for it to be treated as a serious bid, we'll need to post it to wiki news and start grilling you about the requirements, and that's no fun. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 15:56, 4 April 2013 (BST)
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| **I'm always for punishing jokes by fulfilling the fake requests, to me it makes them funnier. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 17:58, 4 April 2013 (BST)
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| **^^^^^ This is a win / win situation. Either you get a new sysop or the joke keeps on trucking past Funnyville right into Hilarioustopia. -[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 21:20, 4 April 2013 (BST)
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| *:I'll take the grilling, as I previous stated, I have no expectation of success. But meh, what else am I doing. --<sub>[[User:Kirsty_cotton|<span style="color: lightgrey">K</span>]]</sub> 22:51, 4 April 2013 (BST)
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| *::If this is serious, then okay. I know much of your bid was intended to be tongue-in-cheek, but it brings up several important points. Namely, what janitorial work or indication of prior interest in maintaining the wiki can you point towards? In looking through [[Special:Contributions/Kirsty_cotton|your contribs]] (note: we have to go back almost a year before we hit 500 of them, meaning you do not meet criteria 2), I don't see a large number tied to any janitorial work at all. You do have a leg up on the average wiki user, in that you've not been afraid to get involved with administrative matters. That said, you also poked fun at yourself and your wikilawyering tendencies in your own bid text (and have referenced your related real-life background), which makes sense, given the recent Misconduct case you filed (it bears repeating that I don't think you were in the wrong for filing that case, though I do think it was a bit on the extreme end of the options available to you).<br />You also recently [[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2013_Q1#Kirsty_cotton|took a leave from the wiki]] for [[UDWiki:Administration/De-Escalations/Archive/2013#Kirsty_cotton|about a month]], which is an indication that you may not be interested in it. What brought you back and what assurances do we have that you won't leave again? Related to your motivation, why do you want to be a sysop and what do you think you can uniquely add? You've mentioned that you think we "need differing voices in the sysop team", but I'm not sure of that. I think that dissension for its own sake is rarely productive, and that what we really need are people who are unafraid to voice opinions they've reached through independent, reasoned thought and who come from differing perspectives, which is something we already have (see #4 in [[User:Aichon/Other/So_you_want_to_be_a_sysop%3F#Drama_Work|the Drama Work section of my sysop guide]]). Even in the events related to the recent Misconduct case, several people commented on how unusual it was for the sysops to agree unanimously on a topic that was so controversial. And with the wiki as quiet as it is these days, adding someone to the team who comes up short in the sorts of tasks that we're doing 99% of the time just so that we can have them around on the off-chance that drama happens doesn't make for a compelling reason. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 01:04, 5 April 2013 (BST)
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| *:::There is some truth in this and the recent motivation question is a concern but I think having a new sheriff in town who can have the sysop team perhaps take a step back, look at a decision and ask "Is this really consistent with policy? Are we handling this the best way we can and in a manner that is consistent with the expectations of the community?" is not necessary a bad thing. I see Kirsty as that person and I think the team could use that person. Lack of janitorial work is a concern but I think Kirsty is perfectly capable of doing those jobs. Look at this way: Either you gain another sysop who pitches in the janitorial duties, has experience and interest in improving the policy aspects of the wiki or you don't and they are booted at the next A/RE. Not a lot of risk here. -[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 02:20, 5 April 2013 (BST)
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| *:::I was active in the [[MediaWiki_talk:Sidebar]] and [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Permaban_Appeal_Revisions]] discussions. As for janitorial work, I've got a bit of spambit hunting and that's about it. I believe I've shown some interest in maintaining the wiki through the aforementioned admin related discussions. I have also made some improvements to my wiki code knowledge (not much, but some), which serves me no purpose other than this wiki. As for my departure and return, I find the wiki an easy source of wasting time, which is the reasoning for both. I can't make any promise that I won't depart again. I have no plans to do so, but I can offer no guarantee RL won't mandate it. I'm not 100% on board that dissension for the sake of dissension is a bad idea. There is a value to dissension, so long as the goal is improvement to the wiki or procedures. It seems some policies and ways of doing things are hold overs from the good ole days when the wiki was a hotbed of drama. I don't honestly have any unique skills or abilities to offer. I could learn to do admin tasks, but I don't have any pressing project or really a specific need for the buttons. I think I hit all your questions? I'm well aware of my shortcoming in relation to being a sysop, and I feel I should do better selling myself. But, I think we all know I'm pitching a used kia, calling it a new mercedes isn't going to fool anyone.--<sub>[[User:Kirsty_cotton|<span style="color: lightgrey">K</span>]]</sub> 02:38, 5 April 2013 (BST)
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| *'''Question''' - Do you have a preference of pronoun, and if so, what is it? I've been using "she" consistently because you primarily RP a female character, but should I be using "he", or each one in different circumstances (eg. in-game discussions v. wiki-related ones)? {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 17:36, 4 April 2013 (BST)
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| *:I don't have a preference. Picking a female name basically took that option from me. If you want for RP reason to use one or the other that is fine --<sub>[[User:Kirsty_cotton|<span style="color: lightgrey">K</span>]]</sub> 22:51, 4 April 2013 (BST)
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| *::Thanks. I'm going to '''against''', both because it seems you're not that enthusiastic about the job, and because I'd like to see you make a more concerted effort towards wiki-improvement in the next few months. But if you do so, and bid again then, you'd likely have my support. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 01:48, 5 April 2013 (BST)
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| *'''Vouch''' - Kirsty would be a solid sysop. Knows the wiki, understands the community, and keeps it real. -[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 21:20, 4 April 2013 (BST)
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| *'''Question''' - Is this a serious bid to be a SysOP or not? I'm with Aichon. If this is now serious, let's take it seriously and remove all of the April fool's stuff. If you really want the job, I'd like to see you make an honest run at it. I don't think this sideways approach is the way to go if you're serious.--[[Image:SarahSig.png|90px|link=User:Sarah Silverman]] 23:44, 4 April 2013 (BST)
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| *:I can understand that, but this is what I got. --<sub>[[User:Kirsty_cotton|<span style="color: lightgrey">K</span>]]</sub> 02:38, 5 April 2013 (BST)
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| *'''Against''' ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>01:15, 5 April 2013 (UTC)</sub>
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| *'''Vouch''' - Punish her!--[[User:RadicalWhig|RadicalWhig]] 02:16, 5 April 2013 (BST)
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| *'''Question''' – As follow-up to [[User:Spiderzed]]'s question, what have you got against the Muppets and/or Swedish soft porn? {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 02:31, 5 April 2013 (BST)
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| *:Nothing, so long as they're together. --<sub>[[User:Kirsty_cotton|<span style="color: lightgrey">K</span>]]</sub> 02:40, 5 April 2013 (BST)
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| *What do you think could produce more interest in the wiki, wiki community, and/or game? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 03:46, 5 April 2013 (BST)
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| ===[[User:Bob Moncrief|Bob Moncrief]]===
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| I'm nominating Bob. For those of you who don't know him, you really should get to know him, or at the very least look through his history here. We [[UDWiki:Administration/Promotions/Bob_Moncrief|tried to promote him]] a few months back, but he declined the nomination. Since then, he's just gotten more awesome. He's ''easily'' the most helpful user currently on the wiki, and has been for a few months.
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| Go look through [[Special:Contributions/Bob_Moncrief|his contributions]], almost all of which are high quality edits. What you'll see is that if he's not busy updating danger reports all over the city (which he does constantly), then he's busy single-handedly restarting the efforts of [[Project Welcome]], which has resulted in his [[User_talk:Bob_Moncrief|his talk page]] being covered by questions from wiki newbies and his helpful replies to them. If he's not busy with rejuvenating Project Welcome, then he's busy helping me (i.e. he's doing all the work) on a major project to restructure the [[A/SA|admin archives]]. And if he's not busy helping me, he's [[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Bots|busy swatting spambots]] like mad. Between all of that, he's become the [[Special:ActiveUsers|most active contributor]] in the last three months, with about the same amount of useful contributions to the wiki as the four most active sysops...''combined''. Quality and quantity: a rare combination.
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| As far as drama goes, anyone who knows him can tell he's a low-drama sort of guy. Moreover, he's shown with the recent [[UDWiki_talk:Administration/De-Escalations/Archive/2013|Izumi A/DE drama]] and [[UDWiki:Administration/Misconduct/Archive/Rosslessness/2013|the followup A/M case]] that he's not afraid to enter the drama with thoughtful opinions that are stated well. And even then, he'll still ask questions and be open to considering new perspectives, rather than entering the discussion with a stance and sticking to it no matter what. As a nice bonus, he's not connected to any of the cliques that have been around. He's just a model wiki user.
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| '''Good behavior like this deserves to be punished.''' Make him a sysop. Hell, make him a 'crat. He can have my seat. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 23:49, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
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| :Last time I was nominated, I declined because I could tell that I was about to enter my most work-heavy semester of undergraduate study. Turns out I was right, but that the work is finally on the downslope - I'll still be pretty busy for a couple of weeks, but by the time this gets processed, I'll be almost all done. Because of that, I'm '''accepting the nomination''' with my biggest thanks to Aichon for it. I also want to thank you, Aichon, for gathering a whole bunch of what I've been doing over the past few months on here, but I also want to mention some of the earlier projects I was involved with, namely [[UDWiki:Project Timeline|Project Timeline]] and the revamp of [[UDWiki:Featured Articles|Featured Articles]]. That's because they were the projects that really got me involved in the community here and in trying to improve the wiki, and, I think, set in motion the chain of events that led to this nomination.
| | *[[UDWiki:Administration/Sysop Archives/Hagnat/2019-08-14 Promotion|Archived as Unsuccessful]]. |
| :That said, I do want to encourage you all to '''question me to your hearts' content'''. If you feel like there is anything you would want to know about me before deciding (or anything unrelated, actually), ask it. Thanks again! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 01:18, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| ::I just noticed that this is supposed to be processed on April 1st. Can I ask the 'crats that it not be processed til the 2nd? This is because a) I have my last big exam of the semester on the 1st, and b) I don't want any April Fool's shenanigans going down. Thanks! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 21:48, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
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| :::Considering we can't process it until 11 minutes before the end of April 1st, it's unlikely we'll actually process it on the 1st. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:02, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
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| ::::Perfect. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 22:04, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *'''Question''' How is your graduation coming along? Last time, it has been the major obstacle for accepting the nomination. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 00:03, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:I actually just handed in the full draft of my thesis yesterday, so all I have left is the revision process and a smidgen of coursework. I graduate in May, after which I'll have tons of time to dedicate to the wiki over the summer and into the fall. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 01:18, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
| | *[[UDWiki:Administration/Sysop Archives/DanceDanceRevolution/2018-07-30 Promotion|Archived as Successful]]. |
| *::Very good. '''Follow-Up''' Misanthropy puts up a Permaban Appeal on Cornholioo's behalf. New user User:Heydrich shows up and makes a single edit, answering to each Against user and accusing them of being too Jewish. The IP of the user is Dutch, but doesn't match any existing user in the logs. What would be your reaction to this situation in the light of existing policy, precedent and wiki history? --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 12:30, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:::I would not auto-ban the user, since there was only one edit (does not meet the 3eV rule). Because the IP does not check out, I would consider the very real possibility that someone has created an account in an attempt to discredit Cornholioo's A/DE bid, and would voice this in an A/VB case, voting '''not vandalism''' by Cornholioo but '''vandalism''' (due to racism) by Heydrich and, if agreed upon by the team at A/VB, would '''warn Heydrich'''. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 14:51, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *::::'''Follow-Up''' User:Heydrich responds by removing your warning from his talk page (2nd edit), leaves a threatening message on your talk page about gassing you (3rd edit) and finally votes on the A/DE vote in favour of unbanning of Cornholioo (4th edit). IP situation remains the same. Now what? --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 15:00, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:::::I don't think removing the warning is against the rules (if it is, I can't find it anywhere). The vote to unban Corn is technically constructive. I would leave a message on Heydrich's talk page asking him personally to stop threatening me. If he does it again, it's back to A/VB. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 15:58, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *::::::Shit Spiderzed, that "Gassing" comment is so obscure as to border on obscene. --[[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User:Rosslessness/Safehouse_Hatred|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]] 17:31, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:::::::Very good answers. - And Ross, I wrote gassing on purpose with two s. I guess it must have been some sort of SS fixation. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 21:46, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *::::::::I was referring to the fact corn misspelt it as gassing once, and assumed you were testing whether the candidate recognised his specific penmanship. --[[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User:Rosslessness/Safehouse_Hatred|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]] 21:49, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:::::::::"Gassing" is a misspelling? Since when? Do you guys only use one S over there? Honest question. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:05, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *::::::::::It's not, but corn used several different spellings like gassing, gasing, gaz etc. --[[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User:Rosslessness/Safehouse_Hatred|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]] 22:15, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:::::::::As Corn was gone, even as Generaloberst, just as I was getting involved with the wiki, I didn't recognize any spelling as particular to him. Either way, I don't think it would matter, since it could still be someone familiar with his work trying to discredit him, as I mentioned above. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 23:53, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *::::'''WRONG''' - You obviously don't like what he's said and it's ever so borderline against TOU so it means you can perma him saying "got no time for this shit" then have the ops defend you in an A/M case you're obviously guilty in {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 22:32, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *::'''Follow-Up''' As you have been digging through the sys-op archives, which sys-op do you consider to be the model sys-op? And why? --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 21:46, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:::This is a tough one. I'm still reading through parts of the archive, especially the earlier A/M cases, so I don't feel comfortable enough to name anyone who was gone long before I arrived. I'm tempted to say boxy, for maintaining strong neutrality and long-term gnoming, but (and this goes for Cheese and some others as well) neutrality is great if you're consistently active. I'm also tempted to say Aichon but I think I prefer him for his 'crat roles, and you specifically asked about 'sops. In terms of my personal experience, I'm most indebted to Vapor, whose friendly attitude towards a new user and encouragement to be involved was a major factor in my sticking around here. But I think I'm gonna have to say Ross, for being consistently around and making clear, effective, impartial decisions for such a long time, and also knowing when to step out and [[UDWiki:Administration/Demotions/Archive#Rosslessness|when not to]]. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 00:11, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *'''Question'''. How would you, if the notion struck, stir some entertaining shit in this here mother? {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 00:22, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:A/DE Cornholioo. But in all seriousness, I've found the most entertainment tends to come about out of the blue, as, for example, by Izumi's recent A/DE, or [[UDWiki:Administration/Sysop Archives/Suicidalangel/2010-01-02 Demotion|SA's first demotion]] (which I just recently found while moving it over to the Sysop Archives). Any drama brought about from calculated action ([[UDWiki talk:Administration/Policy Discussion/Permaban Appeal Revisions|see here]]) is much less entertaining. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 01:18, 19 March 2013 (UTC) | |
| *::That was kind of amusing for everyone I guess.--[[User:SA|SA]] 04:22, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:::Follow-up question: Would you rather encourage or clamp down upon an atmosphere of mischief and anarchy that breeds events like that? {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 05:48, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *::::If I have to pick, I pick encourage. Although I would rather let the mischief-making make itself than be part of its making. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 07:02, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:::::'''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k4fYIUuAP8 Same thing happened to me, not guilty]''' (Vouch). {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 21:21, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *'''Question''' - how would you deal with the offspring of Grim's and Katthew, had it choosen to become an active trol... er, user in the wiki ? --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 01:19, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:From what I can tell (and [[UDWiki:Administration/Promotions/Grim s (1)|my sources are limited]]), Grim actually wasn't too objectionable back when he was a regular user. I know very little about Katthew, since we never overlapped, but from what I can tell most of the objections to her were after her (brief) sysophood as well. So I guess my answer is, go to the [[A/VB|appropriate channels]] if necessary, and otherwise, just against on any sysop bid. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 01:35, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:: Boring answer... no vounches for you :P --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 01:37, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *'''Vouch''' Model user and will likely be a model sysop. Some users I worry a little that we might actually be promoting The Overlord who would then go rogue and force us to categorize images or something. I don't get that vibe with Bob. -[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 01:23, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *'''Question''' are you really axe, yon, or linkthewindow? (the first two i was kidding about). --{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>01:41, 19 March 2013 </small>
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| *:No, no, and no. <small><s>[[UDWiki:Administration/Promotions/Bob Moncrief|Jury's still out on Aichon though]].</s></small> {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 02:02, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *::And now this nomination is suddenly very awkward. >_> {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 02:39, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:::'''Follow up question''' Have I ever killed any of your alts in game?--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>12:19, 19 March 2013 </small>
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| *::::Hmmm not as far as I know. I don't pay much attention to who kills any of my alts, actually. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 14:27, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *'''Vouch'''--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>21:16, 19 March 2013 </small>
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| *What do you think could produce more interest in the wiki, wiki community, and/or game? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 02:07, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:I think the most likely thing that would boost interest in the game would be the opening of another city, or the reduction in size of the one we've got, but both of those require Kevanic intervention. While it may seem like both game and wiki are losing a war of attrition, new players and new wiki members do arrive every day, so I think the best thing we can do is encourage them to stay. That's why I revamped [[Project Welcome]] - to increase retention of new wiki users.
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| *:We've sort of fallen into a trap of not making things happen because "the wiki/game is dying." Now, when something new tries to get off the ground, there's a chorus of "but there's no point because we're dying," which leads to the thing not getting off the ground, which just reinforces the cycle. By being bold and doing things, we get people invested and excited, and that process also reinforces itself. I'd like to do what I can to create an atmosphere that makes the latter, virtuous cycle strengthen and not the former, vicious one. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 03:30, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *::Okay. I'll add to that. I've figured a bit more fiction would do well to keep the interest in the wiki, though maybe not attract it. (For an old [[Lexicon:Main Page|example]].) --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:28, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:::I read that as "friction" at first and thought "isn't that the one thing we don't lack around here?" {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 23:53, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *'''Vouch''' ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>02:13, 19 March 2013 (UTC)</sub>
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| *'''Strong Vouch''' - In case it wasn't obvious from the nomination. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 03:18, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *'''Vouch''' - Resigned as Shortround so that my new account could become a sysop, so obviously a vouch. :P --[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Blue">Talk</span>]] <span style="color:DarkOrange">!</span> [[Special:Contributions/Yonnua_Koponen| <span style="color:Blue">Contribs</span>]]</sup> 03:33, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:Twist ending: Not only am I Yon, Axe, Aichon, Linkthewindow, Hagnat, Katthew, Izumi Orimoto, and every other wiki user, if you are reading this message, I am also you. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 04:17, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *Prodemote the cunt.--[[User:SA|SA]] 04:19, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *'''Strong Against'''. I really like Bob and I think he's someone that improves the wiki. But since the Shortround "scandal" and Wank Hack's somewhat yet-to-be uncovered efforts to manage the same thing in the future, I don't want anyone becoming a sysop until I can verify that they are in fact a real human being dwelling in a basement, like me. Basically, that makes my ideal sysop team Boxy, Rev, maybe Karek. The rest of you are Cornholioos waiting to happen. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 11:35, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:I'd live in a basement if I could, but the soil composition makes basements pretty much impossible where I live. Don't be hatin'. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 15:39, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *::Women live in my basement.--[[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User:Rosslessness/Safehouse_Hatred|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]] 17:39, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:::Not a particular classy joke there, mate. --[[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: darkblue; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: gold; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 17:43, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *::::Shove it, Thad (it was friggin sweet) {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 22:41, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:It's all in the game! (I'm watching The Wire right now). As far as I'm aware, it was always about avatars, not real people. --[[User:Labla|Labla]] 12:21, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *::Exactly. I could easily come on here with several hundred unique and titillating personalities and the community would have to judge that personality on its face, because you have no way of judging anybody by who they actually are, only the personality and actions they bring to the wiki. So what if Bob is secretly X, Y or Z? For the time being he's doing the job we want him to, so even if he is Corn pulling the wool over our eyes, my response is: "Oh fucking well, thanks for helping run this online resource for free and good luck getting banned the instant you slip back in to racist tendencies."--[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Blue">Talk</span>]] <span style="color:DarkOrange">!</span> [[Special:Contributions/Yonnua_Koponen| <span style="color:Blue">Contribs</span>]]</sup> 00:11, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:::You would say that. Fact remains, shorty was a cunt act. That's the one good thing about the drama of old. It weeded out the jerks, because it's so much harder to fake a personality that is tested by fire <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 14:41, 22 March 2013 (BST)</small>
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| *::::As far as I am concerned the only reason users are returning as different accounts and becoming sysops is for the novelty and perhaps the challenge. I want users to want to be sysops, not tick off a list of novelties to accomplish before this wiki dies. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 08:11, 4 April 2013 (BST)
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| *We don't have a good history with Bobs. Not that I'm compromising my impartiality or anything. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 14:46, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *: Bob Hammero was an excelent sysop/crat --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 18:15, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *::I am ashamed to say I forgot him at the time of the comment. A shame mistakes are eternal though and my shame shall forever grace the face of this promotion bid. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 04:45, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *'''Vouch''' - Bob is a class act. As an addicted watcher of "recent changes" I really see how much he does. I'm a big fan. He's truly helpful and sets a great example for the kind of relationship a SysOp should have to the user base.--[[Image:SarahSig.png|90px|link=User:Sarah Silverman]] 17:02, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *'''Vouch''' questions are lame. --[[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User:Rosslessness/Safehouse_Hatred|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]] 17:31, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *'''Question''' Do you have any other, prior, accounts on this wiki?--[[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: darkblue; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: gold; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 17:39, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:No. I found (and joined) UrbanDead in [http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1989226 November of 2011], and joined the Wiki on New Years 2012. I have never created or used any other wiki account, although I have used at least one in-game alt that I do not disclose on here. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 17:45, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *'''Against''' I think Bob would be a great sysop, but also foolish enough to be one. I do this for his own good. --<sub>[[User_talk:Kirsty_cotton|<span style="color: lightgrey">K</span>]]</sub> 22:07, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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| * '''Vouch'''. Few days ago I did run into him in game and posted something like this: ''If you can discover a better way of administrating than office-holding for your future sysops, a well-governed wiki becomes a possibility''. Am I oracle? Anyway he's the exact opposite of everything I really hate (in the scope of wiki). AFAIK he is solely reposible for keeping wiki alive - exluding trash talk between old-timers he owns Recent Changes. Enough said, crown Bob! --[[User:Labla|Labla]] 12:01, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:Dead walks. Trash talks. What else do you expect from a wiki about UD? --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 17:28, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:: Nothing else. That is why I support everything outside of the box... like most of Bob's activities. --[[User:Labla|Labla]] 18:50, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *'''Strong Vouch''' - Countering Kirsty Cotten's vote--{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 21:54, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *'''Vouch''' - If he's this active while busy with his work, I can't wait to see what he'll do now that he's finished it. --{{User:Armpit_Odor/dnsig}} 19:11, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *'''No, seriously''' - have you ever posted here under another name? Your early contribs (months of them) consist, exclusively, of danger and [[EMRP]] reports <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 14:34, 22 March 2013 (BST)</small>
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| *:No, I never have. I joined the wiki on New Years' 2012, but school got in the way and I didn't edit again until I happened to find the DangerReport & EMRP system in March. Then that's all I participated in until I happened to notice Project Timeline on the front page in May, got involved with that, and through that got pulled into all the other sections of the wiki. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 22:45, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *::OK then, I think you should do fine <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 08:15, 23 March 2013 (BST)</small>
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| *'''Question''' - What's up with [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Bob_Moncrief&diff=prev&oldid=2049682 this]? --[[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: darkblue; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: gold; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 16:31, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:That was me continuing the joke that Bob was a secret alt. I didn't expect anyone to actually take it seriously. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 17:57, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *::But you're always serious being serious like all the time ever seriously. --[[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: darkblue; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: gold; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 20:28, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:::Hey, don't blame me. You [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Promotions&diff=2049512&oldid=2049510 started it]. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:16, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:Yeah that puzzled me a lot. I don't know if anyone's Checkusered me - I kind of assumed that Aichon had and someone happened to have attended the same school I do, or lived in the same city (in a different part of the US), but didn't want to make a big deal of it. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 22:45, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *::Okay guys. I will allay your fears about Bob being another Bob, or being someone other than Bob—all the while being at the same time Bob. I've devised a test that will subconsciously probe for other identities. Here we go.
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| *:::If I preferred the number 72, which number would you prefer?
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| *:::If you saw a Nali, would you kill it?
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| *:::If I had a grim day, what is your favourite letter?
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| *:::Is pedentic spelled correctly?
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| *:::Fill in the blanks: P_V_LU_
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| *:::Is there any tar on your van?
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| *:::Are you a zombie killer? Or a slayer?
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| *:::Is there an axe in your name? Anywhere? A hidden axe? 27 axes?
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| *:::If I made an honest mistake, would you correct it?
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| *:::Would you rather be a hero of a bar, or a room? (Or both?)
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| *:::Did Matthew measure the temperature in fahrenheit or kelvin?
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| *:::Do panthers bleed?
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| *:::What is your signature supposed to look like?
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| *:::Woot?
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| *:::Are you the Duke of Garland?
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| *:::Have you nailed your hand lately with a nailgun? Did it hurt?
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| *:::Are you bubonic?
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| *:::Do you like cheese?
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| *:::Has Link been sighted while looking through the window?
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| *:::You're not Iscariot.
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| *:::Is a rooster greater than or less than (or possibly equal to) a dragon?
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| *:::And, just to be sure: are helpful gnomes little or large?
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| *:::--{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:22, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *::::114, no, H, no it's "pedantic", _A_V__V, I don't have a van, I mostly revive them actually, no, I might note it but not correct it, a room (I think), everyone should measure in celsius, only Florida ones, {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 23:33, 22 March 2013 (UTC), Woot who?, no, no but one time I sliced up my finger with shears, no, yes especially brie, yes, no I'm not, I'm a goat in the Chinese zodiac, they are always little. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 23:33, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:::::Okay guys, he checks out. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:39, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *::I checkusered him when I was Shortround. the IP he uses isn't linked to any other user who has been checkusered in the entire history of UDwiki and doesn't match up to any known proxy websites.--[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Blue">Talk</span>]] <span style="color:DarkOrange">!</span> [[Special:Contributions/Yonnua_Koponen| <span style="color:Blue">Contribs</span>]]</sup> 23:25, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:::If it prevents misconduct, I'll say that I am completely in favor of the information above having been released. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 23:33, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *::::I doubt that even Yon is stupid enough to do that twice {{tongue}} <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 08:15, 23 March 2013 (BST)</small>
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| *:::::Or I've left the wiki and don't care any more?--[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Blue">Talk</span>]] <span style="color:DarkOrange">!</span> [[Special:Contributions/Yonnua_Koponen| <span style="color:Blue">Contribs</span>]]</sup> 18:47, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *::::::Is this like the last time you left (in that you didn't)? {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 20:26, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:::Where the hell did you get an IP list of “any other user who has been checkusered in the entire history of UDwiki”? Or do you just mean that CheckUser's 2 week history didn't pull anything up, but you had to use your subscription to Hyperbole Nanosecondly or risk losing it? {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 05:48, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *::::No, I checked it against the archive of every user that has been checkusered in the wiki's history, something that any system operator should know about.--[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Blue">Talk</span>]] <span style="color:DarkOrange">!</span> [[Special:Contributions/Yonnua_Koponen| <span style="color:Blue">Contribs</span>]]</sup> 16:11, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:::::He checked [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&limit=5000&offset=5000&log=1 over 9000]! Only he didn't actually check Bob, as can be seen from those very same archives {{roll}} <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 16:51, 24 March 2013 (BST)</small>
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| *::::::I can confirm. In fact, there's no record of ''anyone'' checkusering him at any time, though I could've sworn ''I'' checkusered him when there were questions about his identity during his last promotion bid. Maybe I didn't though. I'm not certain. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:46, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:::::::Well, if no one's checkusered me, I give my full express permission to do so, and release the same extent of information as Yonnua did above. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 02:41, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *:::::See, that's the only thing I figured you ''could'' have meant, but that statement was so far from being accurate I was hoping you had something better. Ah, well. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 12:29, 31 March 2013 (BST)
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| *'''Vouch''' - MEH --[[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: darkblue; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: gold; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 20:28, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *'''vouch'''. seconding sarah silverman's vouch. though i do not know bob at all, he is really really everywhere on recent changes. --[[User:Anja Arnheim|Anja Arnheim]] 23:29, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *'''Couch''' – Nail him to the damn wiki. Er, in a good way. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 05:48, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
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| * '''Vouch''' - Bob was one of the first guys i ever met on the wiki and he helped me out,so i guess i have to vouch for him...--[[User:Paynetrain|<font size="4" face="Matura MT Script Capitals" color="red">Payne</font>]][[User talk:Paynetrain|<font size="4" face="Matura MT Script Capitals" color="blue">Train</font>]] 05:54, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
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| *'''Vouch''' - Not sure if I'm allowed to vouch actually, but Bob's activity and actions were directly responsible for renewing my interest in both the wiki and the game. His involvement and responses to recent events give me confidence he would do a good job, and I would look forward to having him as a sysop. {{User:Boneshred_The_Hungry/Signature}} 23:01, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
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| After a brief discussion with Aichon, we have come to the conclusion that you clearly qualify. This bid was '''successful'''. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 22:17, 2 April 2013 (BST)
| | ==Archived Bids== |
| | | ''For earlier promotion bids, see the following:'' |
| ==Archived Promotions==
| | *[[:Category:{{CURRENTYEAR}}_Promotion_Archives|This year's promotion bids]] |
| | | *[[:Category:{{LASTYEAR}}_Promotion_Archives|Last year's promotion bids]] |
| *[[:Category:Promotions Candidacies|Complete list of Promotion Requests]]
| | *[[A/SA|Sysop Archives]] for older bids and related sysop activities |
| *[[:Category:Successful Promotions Candidacies|Successful Promotions Candidacies]] | |
| *[[:Category:Unsuccessful Promotions Candidacies|Unsuccessful Promotions Candidacies]] | |
| *[[:Category:Unaccepted Nominations|Unaccepted Nominations]] | |
| *[[:Category:Withdrawn Promotions Candidacies|Withdrawn Promotions Candidacies]]
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