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Signature

Hey man, your sig is going wrong. The large subscript is overlapping not the line below. Can you either make the subscript normal size, not subscript the big letters or make some other fix? Thanks. --  RoosterDragon  17:48, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Your change has brought it so it only skims the top of the line below, still mildly annoying but I'll live with it. --  RoosterDragon  16:26, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

User:The shoemaker

I know plenty about CSS and HTML (or XHTML 1.0 take your pick) I know enough to get what I want done, and that's fine with me.the shoemaker 04:06, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Except neither are really used here. Wiki-markup is close to HTML I guess... --_Vic D'Amato__Dead vs Blue_ 04:08, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and hi, DDR. Don't mind me, I just like to lurk RecentChanges. --_Vic D'Amato__Dead vs Blue_ 04:10, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Thats k. I know your type xD D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 04:12, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

It gets the job done, and I already learned it, and I'm too lazy to bother learning "wiki-markup"--The Shoemaker ^{Talk Red Faction} 01:55, 8 April 2009 (BST) 01:47, 8 April 2009 (BST)

You did a Gnome did a Grim

Not bad. Copy-cat. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 00:13, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

tyty D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 00:14, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Sure. You could pipe in sometime on UDWiki talk:Community Portal. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 21:39, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

User:Lady Clitoria

Hi, I made a new image page as you suggested, but you've undone the changes to the Ackland Mall Security badge, I created a new image file instead of overlapping, this was all done with the blessing of AMS. Not sure why it has been changed back. Sorry am new to the wiki. How can I correctly update the AMS badge image? Sorry about this, I am trying to do it right... --Lady Clitoria 06:36, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Okay, that makes sense now, it was Nuerotoxic2213 who gave me permission, although he gave my ALT Zolam permission, not realizing that Lady Clitoria is my wiki member. Will explain to him. Sorry about all this, and thanks. --Lady Clitoria 06:50, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: ROLAND

Long days and pleasant nights, Sai DanceDanceRevolution - T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 01:24, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Why is that? -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 01:36, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

opness

do you think applying so soon after arriving back from an extended absense was prudent?--xoxo 00:18, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

sysop promotion timing? practice what you preach. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 05:19, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

you hurt my feelings.--xoxo 07:30, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

and high 5 on not answering my question.--xoxo 07:35, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

trouble in paradise? --Cyberbob 07:37, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

i like it when we're all online 2g4, reminds me of the old days...--xoxo 07:39, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

ME T- Oh...--Nallan (Talk) 11:47, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't see your insistence on me answering your question until just now. Frankly, I just wanted the community to tell me what their expectations were if I were to become a sysop in the future, I wanted to know what I had to work on to be more eligible. I just wasn't too big on telling everyone that because it would simply look like I was using that motive as an excuse for being so blatantly unsuccessful. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 00:59, 3 April 2009 (BST)

Wanted you to know

That I'm not 100% closed to reconciliation, it's just that I don't allow the nothingness that is a wiki hiatus to influence my views. Give it some more (active) time. --Cyberbob 07:33, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

i think what you're trying to say is that you do let it influence your views.--xoxo 08:08, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

nnnoooo, I don't. I don't view him any more or less negatively than I did before he left. also gj on your bachelor of internet psychology --Cyberbob 08:57, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

i've got more in ma trunk.--xoxo 23:05, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Cyberbob, I like the idea of that and I'll work on it. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 11:18, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Concerning the move of Brain Virus

Thanks for informing me of the move. I didn't intend to clutter the wiki and I wanted to put the article in the right space. However, I don't understand the protocol on that. Shouldn't a proposal for a movement and change to game balance have it's own space and not be relegated to my character page? I'm not being sarcastic or snotty here, (I always like to clarify that with written communication since the same sentence can be interpreted with different meanings). As a couple of examples, I wrote an article on crap tactics and one on civility. Both were intended to enhance the game. I have the same intent with Brain Virus and I would like to develop the idea with a discussion area where the community can contribute and shape the movement, with the ultimate goal of bringing balance to urban dead.
What's wrong with putting it on the main space? If not in the main space then where else could it go? Perhaps as a sub domain of developing suggestions? Thanks for your help in advance! --Giles Sednik ^CAPDSWA 06:40, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Oww..

I checked, but couldn't figure out why it didn't work :'( --Janus ^talk 23:03, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Don't take it personally, I've had bad experiences with incorrect and ridiculous redirects lately thats all. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 05:30, 29 March 2009 (BST)

ZOMG IMPERSONATISHUM!!!

Seriously though thanks ;p. Linkthewindow  Talk  11:36, 30 March 2009 (BST)

np >=] D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 11:41, 30 March 2009 (BST)

jock horror sig

he posted somthing that said my sig was wrong, so i showed him its not. -unsigned comment by User:Jock Horror at 00:28, 31 March 2009

well

All it takes is a certain level of commitment to making stupid fucks shut up. The only real trick I used was not to bring any A/VB cases against people; rather I just threatened certain serial offenders with it. This removed any possibility of the usual suspects bawwwwwwwwing about "durrr cyberbawbs bringan another petty case :rolleyes:", and I'm p sure that the people doing it knew it.

cheers for the compliment brah. also keep up the good work wrt jed --Cyberbob 12:59, 31 March 2009 (BST)

bahaha

me likey.--xoxo 05:16, 3 April 2009 (BST)

regarding talk archive

Oh, hey, shorry about the archive edit. I was browsing a window I left open earlier, saw the :wumpscut: thing and replied. My supah sekret psyops powers kicked in and told me I shouldn't have been editing that page after I already did. :) --Suicidal Angel, Help needed? 01:21, 4 April 2009 (BST)

Haha thats okay! D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) OFFLINE 02:11, 4 April 2009 (BST)

Dude!

I just noticed this! Nice work bra.--xoxo 07:19, 5 April 2009 (BST)

I will be fixing up that template soon because there's something severely wrong with its weighing with the pages. Gimme 20, but otherwise, thanks. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) OFFLINE 07:29, 5 April 2009 (BST)

Re:FeedingGroanGivesXPMishap

Did I? My God, how embarrassing! But yes, I was voting for the kill section, for the reasons specified above my vote. You have my thanks for changing the wording to read "Kill" instead of "Keep". And on the note of violating my talk page rules, it's no problem. --Private Mark 06:31, 6 April 2009 (BST)

Status Hunt!

The latest game to take over the wiki! Catch 'em all! So far i've got online, offline and phone :D I still need the ever elusive idle...--xoxo 14:33, 6 April 2009 (BST)

Oh you've excited me now! I'll make some awesome ones like wii, uni, and/or deep space etc, and see who gets them all first! D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) OFFLINE 14:36, 6 April 2009 (BST)

:D Don't post the complete list on the wiki though, there be cheaters har! --xoxo 14:37, 6 April 2009 (BST)

Okay sweet, tomorow when I grab some time I'll write up some rules and stuff. By the way, Axe and I want to bash up another manhunt, one thats bigger than ever. You in? D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) OFFLINE 14:42, 6 April 2009 (BST)

Don't even suggest i hadn't already stalked that conversation. In other news, I haven't decided yet.--xoxo 14:44, 6 April 2009 (BST)

Went

Yeah.... couldn't resist that kill... A kiltie with 13 hp? That's worse than crack for a gore corper. --Johnny Bass 15:02, 6 April 2009 (BST)

Quiz

	American Idol
	Axe Hack believe(s) DanceDanceRevolution is the next American Idol.

Heh. I can see this starting some crazy rumor that they're gonna introduce DDR into our already stale American Idol competitions. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 23:40, 6 April 2009 (BST)

Hey, I'd watch it! D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) OFFLINE 01:10, 7 April 2009 (BST)

DDR and singing at the same time? Epic. I'd watch that shit.--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 05:45, 7 April 2009 (BST)

Only if they actually sing the J-pop DDR songs. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) OFFLINE 10:25, 7 April 2009 (BST)

DEFINITELY!!!! Jap music is pure awesomeness! Utada Hikaru? Awesome. UVERworld? Superb. Knotlamp? Hey, the new series of Yu-Gi-Oh! sucks ass, but at least they have great music taste! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 00:55, 8 April 2009 (BST)

I'm hoping you don't mean GX. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) OFFLINE 01:51, 8 April 2009 (BST)

Not GX, dude. 5D's. Seriously? Yu-Gi-Oh! on motorbikes? Didn't they prove that a failure in the 5th season of Yu-Gi-Oh!? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 23:44, 8 April 2009 (BST)

Wut

Spambit said:

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:D --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 18:44, 7 April 2009 (BST)

I love you Korean Spambit! D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) OFFLINE 01:22, 8 April 2009 (BST)

I do think you mean "A first for everyone" Fop is incorrect. :P --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 15:47, 11 April 2009 (BST)

Why are you such a bully!? D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) OFFLINE 15:48, 11 April 2009 (BST)

Because you were drunk. :) --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 17:48, 11 April 2009 (BST)

Status Messages

I'm interested in your codes. I might steal. Of course...I am open to negotiations. I still have plenty of money trees in stock. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 00:57, 8 April 2009 (BST)

If a quiz question about the Mars Volta is out of the question, then just steal dat code. If you need any help, feel free to shoot me a question. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) OFFLINE 01:22, 8 April 2009 (BST)

Eh. I'm too lazy to steal right now. How about I pay you to do it for me? I'm trying to entertain myself with all these stupid quizzes on Facebook. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 01:38, 8 April 2009 (BST)

No probs, tell me the pages under your namespace that you desire or just the statuses, and I'll work from there. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) OFFLINE 01:42, 8 April 2009 (BST)

Oh, just dump it in User:Axe Hack/Stat. Or any random variations of it. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 23:42, 8 April 2009 (BST)

	A FREE COOKIE
	Axe Hack has given DanceDanceRevolution a cookie for a status message.

--•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 21:48, 10 April 2009 (BST)

Oh. By the way. You have a lot of great statuses and all, but what do you think of the lazy one? (See siggy) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} (status:‎Mudkip!) 22:23, 10 April 2009 (BST)

Its... so... beautiful!! D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) OFFLINE 04:34, 11 April 2009 (BST)

IP adress

Hey ddr it this is jhorror, NEVCE, and bonghit420 <same person. My step brother started playing urban dead and has paid the 5 dollars for unlimited ip hits for his accounts, however i have not. We both have the same IP. My question is is it ok for him to be in my group BLACK DELTA and be near my account? He has paid the 5 dollars and should be allowed to. I dont know if your the right person to ask but you seem to be the wiki guy to talk to and i dont know how to reach the creator of UD. I will give you better detail when he gets home, i will list his ud ID and mine so you know more. thank you soooooo much in advance. --JHORROR ^{Black Delta Mockridge Heights} 20:20, 9 April 2009 (BST)

If you guys are using the same ip address, then no, you still can't be near each other. If you wanna be in the same group, one of you will have to be at least a few blocks away.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 20:47, 9 April 2009 (BST)

I'm afraid it's not something that can be done, Jock Horror. Unless one of you goes around using a proxy, which is something my little brother did a while ago when he chose to participate in my manhunt. Using a proxy isn't something we love to hear, but it gets the job done I guess. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) OFFLINE 03:04, 10 April 2009 (BST)

Not true. I believe any IP address one character uses, will be passed along to another character that has been on the same IP. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 21:52, 10 April 2009 (BST)

No no, I tried this in Monroeville back when I first started coming back again. Proxy gets by the zerg things easily.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 04:50, 11 April 2009 (BST)

Yeah, its been a working tactic for me in the past. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) OFFLINE 04:54, 11 April 2009 (BST)

In your opinion..

..if I remove my group (Anti-zombie squad) from here, would I be reported for vandalism? We haven't been allies for a while now.. :/ --Janus ^talk 14:41, 16 April 2009 (BST)

No, it should be fine. I just did it for you, if it saves you the worrying. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) OFFLINE 12:59, 17 April 2009 (BST)

Thanks! :D --Janus ^talk 14:06, 17 April 2009 (BST)

Wiki Question

Hi.

Me and a friend wish to start a chop in an auto repair. I have seen on the wiki that others have done that and named it after them self and edited the page. We wish to do that too. Please tell me if and how I can do that.

Kindly regards // Michael Sleeman, 19:52, 17 April 2009

If you want to make a group or a page, all you have to do is type what name you want into the 'search' bar on your left. So if I want to make a group called "The Happy Dancers" I would type that into the search bar and click 'go'. Once it tells you the page doesn't exist, you click on 'create page' and from there onwards you can make and edit the page under that name. I hope that answers your question... If not, just say so. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) OFFLINE 01:56, 18 April 2009 (BST)

A/SD request

please delete the unused page Citizens Living In Teamwork Organization Resourcefulness Insanity and Security--

Done. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) OFFLINE 15:38, 18 April 2009 (BST)

Kinch Heihgts Important News

It is a radio station please undelete itplscks 10:28, 18 April 2009 (BST)

You can actually re-create it if that is the case. We thought it may have been a mistaken dangerreport page. If we were wrong, then there should be nothing wrong with you actually just starting the page again. It only had 4 words on it originally anyway. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) OFFLINE 11:11, 20 April 2009 (BST)

DDR's right. It only had twelve words (so he's wrong by a multiple of three :P.) We deleted it because we thought that it was a miscreated danger report, but if it's a group, go ahead and recreate it. Linkthewindow  Talk  15:12, 20 April 2009 (BST)

Nazis of Malton page

Hey its the dude who owns the Nazi page :P

look i didn't mean to cause offense and I certainly do not support Nazism, but i did want a group that can rival the communists. I've deleted the majority of the Swastikas but the name of the page contains it so i wondered if you could please change it for me since i don't know how. Maybe next time i Think i'll do something a little less offensive. cheers :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ivanindahau (talk • contribs) 14:10, 20 April 200.

You can request a move for pages here. Linkthewindow  Talk  15:12, 20 April 2009 (BST)

Done. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) OFFLINE 15:16, 20 April 2009 (BST)

Status Signess

I just realized that your current signature is set up in two templates. Sig then Status. Might it not be better to fold the status into your sig template? That way if you ever want to drop the status thing you will be able to easily? Right now you'd have to edit all your recent signings in order to remove it...that seems extraneous. Gets worse if you keep editing though, hence my presense. --  RoosterDragon  22:49, 20 April 2009 (BST)

There are two things: I've tested with just keeping the status page blank, which seems to work so when there comes a day when I don't want this status thing, I can just blank the page and add a noinclude to tell them hands off... And if I were to throw it all into one template, well, then one months worth of old posts will have two statuses next to my name. I guess I'll just make an alternate status page, put the code into my signature and blank the old one. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) OFFLINE 00:33, 21 April 2009 (BST)

Well, you could trace all the inclusions of the current one and remove them, though it would indeed be a sizeable bit of work. I'm not saying blanking the template isn't an option, it just seems a bit meh to have a template with tons of calls of blank. I'm just being pedantic, no need to actually listen to my nonsense if you don't fancy. :) --  RoosterDragon  13:49, 22 April 2009 (BST)

It's okay, just take some deep breaths... I might just do that sometime in the future when I find the time, but for now I have turned the original status page into a visual copy to a new substitute, which will hopefully eliminate duplicates in the signatures. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 14:07, 22 April 2009 (BST)

Editing a certain building information.

Hi. I wish to editing an auto repair information on this wiki. I have spoked with the group that had write on it before and they gave me they permission to rewrite. I have also spooked with one of the largest grope in the suburb and they have no problem with me changing it.

I wish to make it an personal text based on my character and a friends character work on it now, as well as some history before and after the outbreak. What do you say? Can you give me some nice advise. :)

Thank you.

--Michael Sleeman 18:54, 21 April 2009 (BST)

Well, what is the auto shop that you want to use? Once you find it, you can always write a short history on the page to add some flavour to the place. My only tip is try to make is as neutral as possible, because some people around here don't like it if it's a point of view article. Once you have a massive history to put on, you can always make a group and put it on your group page. You can write anything you want on there! Hope that helps. If not, just tell me the auto repair that you would like to use and I'll try and help you more. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) OFFLINE 03:50, 22 April 2009 (BST)Well the place ::I wish to write about is "Jefferys Auto Repair" in Darkerstown. There is a short notice that I have write on a page about all the Auto Repairs in Darkerstown. I wish to make a single page for "Jefferys Auto Repair". Please help me to do that. I Don't know if I should take it away from the old page or how to do what. Kindly regards. --Michael Sleeman 16:07, 23 April 2009 (BST)

Well I'm already in a group. The Communist Party of Malton. The thing is, I wish to settle down and make my self a home. I have seen that there are other survivors have done that, like Fitkin Auto Repair. It seems fun and I wish to do the same. Can you help me do that? --Michael Sleeman 16:27, 23 April 2009 (BST)

Thank you. See you there hopefully! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Michael Sleeman (talk • contribs) 08:24, 24 April 2009.

Hi. There is a problem to go from Jeffries Auto Repair to Freeth Auto Repair in the wiki. If I click on Freeth when I stand of Jeffries I come to Jeffries again. Well also say what you think about what I have write this far. Is this enough objective? I think I can make it personal because my character live there now and a lot of things will be write from his perspective. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Michael Sleeman (talk • contribs) 09:30, 24 April 2009.

Appreciate it

Any help with learning wiki language (coding) appreciated, as I have absolutely no idea how do do any of it aside from what few things have been sent to my talk page so far. -- Zhekarius 06:20, 22 April 2009 (BST)

Burrrr

You should have come last night/the night before.--xoxo 09:34, 24 April 2009 (BST)

I'll elaborate on my text later. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:26, 24 April 2009 (BST)

Was that automated?

Just wondering if the note you left me was an automated response, or if you are really that dedicated. If you are, then I'm totally impressed. --YoEleven 21:38, 24 April 2009 (BST)

Direct, the first one on account creation is automated, the ones posted to user pages are not. --Karek^maps?! 22:25, 24 April 2009 (BST)

I don't like simply posting Template:WN so I like to add a personal message afterwards to make the deed seem a little more rewarding. But the answer is no, it's manually done. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 02:10, 25 April 2009 (BST)

Cursed Images

Was thinking, we could try uploading the right images (instead of random ones) and then try to delete them.. Just an idea. :/ --Janus ^talk 13:47, 25 April 2009 (BST)

Yeah, that ran through my mind to, but I didn't know anyone had access to the original images. To be honest, I don't think it'll make any difference, but if you try, I'll add it to the new log I made for the project, which I'm sure you've checked out already. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 13:58, 25 April 2009 (BST)

Done. Would removing the links worth trying in your opinion? --Janus ^talk 14:45, 25 April 2009 (BST)

Well... My Ghost Buster spirit has already been crushed, but I'll help you out if you want. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 14:51, 25 April 2009 (BST)

I've removed the pages from my namespace, Link's onto this a little, if you want the protected pages changed, he may be your man. Cheese might still be around also. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 14:55, 25 April 2009 (BST)

Thanks! Asking Link now. --Janus ^talk 14:58, 25 April 2009 (BST) Scratch that, you're already asking him. :) --Janus ^talk 14:59, 25 April 2009 (BST)