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::::Then raise it with them. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:26, 6 December 2010 (UTC) | ::::Then raise it with them. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:26, 6 December 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::::I will. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|10px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''(Thad)eous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|10px]]</span> <sup><span style="color:Maroon">'''[[User:MisterGame|Talk]]'''</span></sup> 11:32, 6 December 2010 (UTC) | :::::I will. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|10px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''(Thad)eous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|10px]]</span> <sup><span style="color:Maroon">'''[[User:MisterGame|Talk]]'''</span></sup> 11:32, 6 December 2010 (UTC) | ||
::::::BCH uses PKing as one of their tools against very, very specific targets, but isn't a "Hostile Group" on a suburb level. 9 out of 10 visitors to the NE corner are perfectly safe from us. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 22:16, 6 December 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Sorry that I haven't been able to answer this, because I've been massively ill. Deahwire was almost definitely complaining about how The BCH (A group whose admission requirement is 10 PKs) have been allowed to classify as pro-survivor. In terms of using Philosophe knights as a parallel, that's completely inappropriate, because you don't need to PK to be a member, e.g. Damon Young. And of course, Deathwire was also probably confused by the fact that a system operator forced through the BCHs original changes. Personally, I agree with Thad that neither of them should have the right to classify as whatever they want, and they should be forced to put what they actually are. However, given that Deathwire had previously been informed that it was acceptable by a system operator, I see no reason to give him a vandalism case or anything like that. Either leave them both or move both to the right sections. Of course, if there is a case of any kind (Vandalism, arbies) I won't have anything to do with it, as an involved party.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 18:46, 6 December 2010 (UTC) | :Sorry that I haven't been able to answer this, because I've been massively ill. Deahwire was almost definitely complaining about how The BCH (A group whose admission requirement is 10 PKs) have been allowed to classify as pro-survivor. In terms of using Philosophe knights as a parallel, that's completely inappropriate, because you don't need to PK to be a member, e.g. Damon Young. And of course, Deathwire was also probably confused by the fact that a system operator forced through the BCHs original changes. Personally, I agree with Thad that neither of them should have the right to classify as whatever they want, and they should be forced to put what they actually are. However, given that Deathwire had previously been informed that it was acceptable by a system operator, I see no reason to give him a vandalism case or anything like that. Either leave them both or move both to the right sections. Of course, if there is a case of any kind (Vandalism, arbies) I won't have anything to do with it, as an involved party.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 18:46, 6 December 2010 (UTC) | ||
::Hasn't this issue come up quite a few times? My understanding was that it was entirely up to the group themselves how they were listed, and that's a position I'd stand behind. It's definitely not vandalism though, as it's not interfering with anything - if it gets to an edit war then the solution is to arby it and have someone neutral decide what stays where and set a precedent for it, but I'd hope common sense would stop people interfering enough to get that far. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 18:54, 6 December 2010 (UTC) | ::Hasn't this issue come up quite a few times? My understanding was that it was entirely up to the group themselves how they were listed, and that's a position I'd stand behind. It's definitely not vandalism though, as it's not interfering with anything - if it gets to an edit war then the solution is to arby it and have someone neutral decide what stays where and set a precedent for it, but I'd hope common sense would stop people interfering enough to get that far. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 18:54, 6 December 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::Well, my stance has always been that so long as they are consistent and can justify it somehow, it's generally fine. That said, D.I.T.P.S. lists itself as a survivor group on its own pages, which directly contradicts this change, hence why I was concerned. I don't want to speak for BCH, but in the case of the Philosophe Knights, we do, as was said, allow for our members to ascend the ranks without PKing (in fact, our most recent entrant to our highest rank did so, from what I heard). Additionally, the Knights are consistent in their message that they are acting in the best interests of the population, rather than being hostile for the sake of being hostile, and would hold that there is a difference between being a "PKer Group", which they readily admit that they are, and being a "Hostile Group", which is what gets listed on the suburb pages. Plus, there's also the fact that the suburbs where the Knights are listed are the ones where they do act in a very pro-survivor way, working alongside other groups to rebuild and maintain the suburb. So, in all of those regards, the Knights are not really an apt comparison to the current situation, since their listing as a survivor group is justifiable on quite a few different bases. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:31, 6 December 2010 (UTC) | :::Well, my stance has always been that so long as they are consistent and can justify it somehow, it's generally fine. That said, D.I.T.P.S. lists itself as a survivor group on its own pages, which directly contradicts this change, hence why I was concerned. I don't want to speak for BCH, but in the case of the Philosophe Knights, we do, as was said, allow for our members to ascend the ranks without PKing (in fact, our most recent entrant to our highest rank did so, from what I heard). Additionally, the Knights are consistent in their message that they are acting in the best interests of the population, rather than being hostile for the sake of being hostile, and would hold that there is a difference between being a "PKer Group", which they readily admit that they are, and being a "Hostile Group", which is what gets listed on the suburb pages. Plus, there's also the fact that the suburbs where the Knights are listed are the ones where they do act in a very pro-survivor way, working alongside other groups to rebuild and maintain the suburb. So, in all of those regards, the Knights are not really an apt comparison to the current situation, since their listing as a survivor group is justifiable on quite a few different bases. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:31, 6 December 2010 (UTC) | ||
::::Anyway, yeah, I'm not planning to pursue this, but I wanted to make sure a local with wiki knowledge was aware of it, since I didn't feel equipped to handle it at the time. Also, that last response was in general to the conversation, not just at you two, since clearly you both already knew most of it. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:34, 6 December 2010 (UTC) | ::::Anyway, yeah, I'm not planning to pursue this, but I wanted to make sure a local with wiki knowledge was aware of it, since I didn't feel equipped to handle it at the time. Also, that last response was in general to the conversation, not just at you two, since clearly you both already knew most of it. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:34, 6 December 2010 (UTC) | ||
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DiscussionClick [+] to commentPost any comments you have below this line, and post new comments at the bottom. Any signatures that use the "Click" template or similar code will be replaced with blank signatures. DiscosaursHey, yo, fam. Check this out. I was just at the club, right? Heard these two dudes talking. One of them said to the other one that they knew someone who said you guys are wack! =P --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 18:17, 28 October 2010 (BST)
DonkeyAm I misremembering, or was there some sort of way to return these to you, if found? ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 17:34, 29 October 2010 (BST)
WhoaI seem to have hit the jackpot in Mos Eisley. The death of TripleU has cost him his weapon and ammunition, it seems. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 15:45, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Bar Fight!Based on picking names from my hat, your opponent is ObiFireFighter. I'll now leave you two to work out a bar and fight time. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 19:19, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Let's see if I can clear things up. You can retract your bet. You can't change it. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:25, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Just to let you know...Your brain Mr.Yonnua tasted quite good. --Radio 03:07, 23 November 2010 (UTC) Mudkip HuntThere's a week left, so this is to remind you to meet at The Roger Arms, Penny Heights if alive, or Junkyard 98,76 if dead, Penny Heights, 3 days before the competition begins. DJSpinbad will be at that location to confirm you are there when the competition begins. Those who do not arrive will be disqualified. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:28, 23 November 2010 (UTC) Tapping you for your opinionSince I wasn't sure if you had seen this yet and I was fishing for comments or suggestions. Plus, I figure that anyone else interested will see it if I ping you and a few others. ;) —Aichon— 04:38, 27 November 2010 (UTC) Discosaurs/Rage_in_the_Age/The_EventFinish it. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:15, 29 November 2010 (UTC) Smarty PantsFor this nifty turn of phrase you will pay. Dearly. You will pay...--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 03:34, 30 November 2010 (UTC) SwarmCurrently Standing in the lake, Due North of Purgatory. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 16:17, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Fear me! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 06:15, 1 December 2010 (UTC) Miss BennetTown Hall of the Hive, Far NW --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 10:37, 1 December 2010 (UTC) TSO has stated they are mainly fighting the Union. Thought you should know. Of course it's not that it matters to you...They do have beef with anyone involved with Spidey... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 19:47, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Forest of Despair is the huge forest near the south edge of the map. As for the irc channel, I'm not at liberty to give that information out to you...I would if I could, but they don't want you, so... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:36, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Jim Bim's shack in Forest of Despair: Berserkas, dazed, Timothy Strough, Bill Turner, Jim Bim, Edgar Flume. First two have bolted. All but Jim Bim are active. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 02:44, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Dazed on 20hpInterested? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 10:40, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Not sure......if this is of any significance. Poking you about it in case it is, since you're in that area and would know better how to handle it if it is a problem. —Aichon— 06:34, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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