User talk:Misanthropy/Archive2010 Q4

Please to be no touchy anything on page. Archiving of talk page for de-cluttering.

Cheers.

Hi

That is all. —Aichon— 00:38, 1 October 2010 (BST)

Hi you. 00:40, 1 October 2010 (BST)

I miss you. —Aichon— 00:48, 1 October 2010 (BST)

Hugs? 00:49, 1 October 2010 (BST)

HAGZ! —Aichon— 00:51, 1 October 2010 (BST)

Get a room, you two! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 01:03, 1 October 2010 (BST)

But this is my room. 01:11, 1 October 2010 (BST)

I think Axe just needs a hug too. Group hug? —Aichon— 01:30, 1 October 2010 (BST)

Only if you give it to my blood thirsty Mudkip as well. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 01:31, 1 October 2010 (BST)

eh gross wiki butt secks----sexualharrison ¯\()/¯ 04:05, 1 October 2010 (BST)

I came up with an Idea, but need your input

I thought it would be cool if we had a wiki User of the Month Competition. Now, this would probably have to be run by Sysops, so, I'm Asking for your input here. And dont worry, I've asked the other Sysops too.

Cheers,
-Dezonus- ^(talk) 14:55, 2 October 2010 (BST)

RDD RITA Team

Still don't have any idea on a team. Will you enlighten us?--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 18:15, 2 October 2010 (BST)

Oh, right. Just found your message on the talk.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 18:23, 2 October 2010 (BST)

Soft Warning

I know Sexualharrison was joking about us having "butt secks" the other day, but that doesn't mean it's okay to draw pictures of it and post them on the wiki. Consider this an official soft warning not to do it again. —Aichon— 07:28, 6 October 2010 (BST)

what really? i wanna see that pic now for some reason.----sexualharrison ¯\()/¯ 20:13, 7 October 2010 (BST)

It was an MS Paint drawing of a dick and a butt. 20:42, 7 October 2010 (BST)

IN. Not and --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 20:58, 7 October 2010 (BST)

Well yes but it was both of them. 21:02, 7 October 2010 (BST)

Point taken. Although not literally. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 21:06, 7 October 2010 (BST)

It is all your fault though. 21:08, 7 October 2010 (BST)

Subst?

I should probably know this by now. And I can probably easily find out. But what does Subst: in front of a template name do? -- Rahrah is pumped that he's going to lose another Manhunt. 18:58, 7 October 2010 (BST)

It copies the code of a template directly on to page instead of making a template call. For instance, {{Eaten}} would given the actual template, but {{Subst:Eaten}} will add the folowing directly to the page:

{| style="border:solid #000000 2px;" width=400 align=center |- | rowspan=3 |[[Image:Pacman.jpg|55px]] || style="background:#000000; color:#ffffff;" width=800 align="center" | <font face="Eurostile"><font size=4>'''EATEN'''</font></font> |}

Essentially this cuts down on template calls and allows future editing to what the template gives. The point of doing it on the welcome newbie drops is to reduce the apparent 'cut and paste' look of things, as a study Jorm gave us showed that templates scare people. As an aside, fuck hotels and their stupid fucking booking forms. 19:39, 7 October 2010 (BST)

The idea of that study was to reinforce the common sense idea that a big ass slab of ready made text is rather off-putting, as opposed to a personal welcome from a human being. If you think his point was that wiki templates are scary, and subst 'fixes' that, then you've gotten the wrong idea entirely. It's about whether you feel like you're being treated like a worthless piece of meat or not. A pre-made giant wall of text-y table-y doom is crap whether you subst it or not (and probably worse when you subst it, since now they have fucking pages of table code in their edit windows) --  RoosterDragon  20:45, 7 October 2010 (BST)

No table code, just plain text. The plain text approach is in response to that study, the substing just makes it easier for me to add to it when the need arises, if I'm adding specific help based on what I've seen them doing. 20:57, 7 October 2010 (BST)

For plain text (like your style) it makes sense and I'm not against that. But your post implied you meant the disaster that is the WN template, hence the rage. --  RoosterDragon  22:15, 7 October 2010 (BST)

Oh, Christ no. The worst thing you could do is just dump a bunch of table code onto someone's talk page (especially when the code packet includes a line directly referring to its existence as just a template call that can easily be deleted). 22:18, 7 October 2010 (BST)

My topic there

Permission to play with your navbar? I think I can sinibomb the ol' 'star into place. 23:25, 7 October 2010 (BST)

I figured I could do it myself if I really wanted to, but I'm far too lazy. But it you want to do my work for me, feel free. Try to make it take up the whole box, and remove the pixel specifications on my main/talk page (the |110 and |85). Thanks in advance. As your reward, you will receive a 1/60 chance at a cookie. --VVV ^RPMBG 23:46, 7 October 2010 (BST)

Make it 2/119. 23:54, 7 October 2010 (BST)

I cannot. I can offer you fillet of soul or a giant blender swimming pool in the place of the cookie, if you'd prefer. --VVV ^RPMBG 00:01, 8 October 2010 (BST)

Fillet of soul. I hunger. 00:02, 8 October 2010 (BST)

BEWARE, IT'S FIXED 00:10, 8 October 2010 (BST)

It also caused the second row to become overly tall and the image to be smaller than the box containing it. Unless these issues are resolved, I'll be forced to give you a mere 1/120 chance for fillet of soul, as I'll be forced to revert it to it's previous state. --VVV ^RPMBG 00:20, 8 October 2010 (BST)

I noticed the sizing issues. However the image does stay stationary instead of roving around the page when anything occupies space above the bar. I tinkered a bit to minimise the difference but I'm not sure it can be perfectly aligned with any ease. :( 00:35, 8 October 2010 (BST)

Then you shall receive the 1/120 chance. Which three of these books do I own?

The Communist Manifesto

Leviathan

Mein Kampf

The Prince

Reflections on the Revolution in France

Satanic Verses

You have one guess. --VVV ^RPMBG 01:05, 8 October 2010 (BST)

Machiavelli, Rushdie and ... Hobbes? 01:19, 8 October 2010 (BST)

. You're smart to know that Reflections on the Revolution in France is ridiculously hard to find in stores, but I lack the attention span for novels. --VVV ^RPMBG 00:00, 9 October 2010 (BST)

I think I know you

Haven't been around in AGES, but I think I recognize you from the old times. Commented on a couple of my old suggestions, maybe?

Also... What happens if I click add action=edit and section=new to the url? Hmmm. How devilish do I feel right now?

Meh, not much. ~m ^T! 03:18, 8 October 2010 (BST)

I'll slap you in the chops, mister, is what happens. Pow. Right in the kisser. Beuford T Justice aside, I'll have a dredge through DS now, unless you mean you've stuff in the main system, in which case I'll get to +1ing. 03:24, 8 October 2010 (BST)

Um, I'll just pretend I undertood that last sentence and nod politely, okay? *Nods politely* ~m ^T! 01:55, 9 October 2010 (BST)

Malton Beauty Pageant

Hey Misanthropy, I remember a couple of months ago you said that you had your lecherous eyes on the Malton Beauty pageant. Well, things are starting to get organized so I was wondering if you would have an interest in being the PK judge. here's the link to the page [[1]] --Mindlessidiots 17:43, 9 October 2010 (BST)

User:Aichon/Sandbox/Demo6

might also be helpful. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 21:08, 10 October 2010 (BST)

Possibry. Say, young man, you don't happen to know the exact messages given when gesturing at contact-listed bodies, do you? 21:10, 10 October 2010 (BST)

No. But give me a day. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 21:13, 10 October 2010 (BST)

http://iamscott.net/1286741595579.html --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 21:14, 10 October 2010 (BST)

You're a saint. It's the only thing I didn't think to check. 21:15, 10 October 2010 (BST)

Luck Really. Plus having spare IP hits. (Thanks to manhunt revive points). Shout if you need any more. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 21:16, 10 October 2010 (BST)

I have the message formula figured now. Just it's escaping me whether transmitters are gesture targets or not (I only ever gesture with Haircuts and there's never a generator left long enough to install a transmitter). 21:20, 10 October 2010 (BST)

Hmm. That may take a while. Leave it with me. Gut instinct says no. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 21:24, 10 October 2010 (BST)

I've left it open-ended enough for now, as just "fixtures", but with generators as the example. On to ransack, then bellow, it seems. 21:27, 10 October 2010 (BST)

That abortion of a page is embarrassing to me. One of these days I'll have to fix it and finish it up with an actual style that can be applied across the board to the other pages. —Aichon— 22:10, 10 October 2010 (BST)

Feel free, I'm not doing any special layout as I'm doing these so if you fix up a style that works you should be able to apply them uniformly with ease. 22:15, 10 October 2010 (BST)

Red October Confrimation

Please confirm your intent to participate in the Red October manhunt event as a Red Army team member by clicking here and leaving a note. The event begins at 12:01am GMT on October 25th. --~ 17:00, 11 October 2010 (BST)

survivor judge selected

For the Survivor judge, I picked Miss Elainous. Just thought you like to know, are okay with this choice? --Mindlessidiots 02:57, 12 October 2010 (BST)

Seems fine by me. 03:01, 12 October 2010 (BST)

Cool, I sent you a PM on brainstock but it's probably a little outdated by now. --Mindlessidiots 00:03, 13 October 2010 (BST)

I'll have a read in a second. 00:06, 13 October 2010 (BST)

...

I just noticed my page didn't link here... >_< --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 19:25, 12 October 2010 (BST)

	A FREE COOKIE
	Axe Hack has given Misanthropy a cookie for having rigged dice.

--•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 20:40, 12 October 2010 (BST)

Marzan

I hate unused redirects. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 20:51, 13 October 2010 (BST)

I'm in the process of using it... 20:54, 13 October 2010 (BST)

That's what Yon's mum said. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 20:59, 13 October 2010 (BST)

She did. She told me so. 21:11, 13 October 2010 (BST)

Why are you mean to me... :( --Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 21:24, 13 October 2010 (BST)

This is what happens when you put stuff in the news template early. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 21:25, 13 October 2010 (BST)

Yep. Every time you finish things too quickly, so does Ross. Which is why your mum has to use things herself. 21:26, 13 October 2010 (BST)

No, that was future me, who went forward to tomorrow when Thad's accepted the bid and learnt to assign an email address to his wiki account.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 21:26, 13 October 2010 (BST)

Hey, I'm a true gentleman, I always let others finish first. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 21:37, 13 October 2010 (BST)

Dead Hand recruitment image

At 142KB, it's too large for Recruitment. Mind shrinking it a bit? Since I know you're on right now and can correct it, I'll leave the ad up for the moment. —Aichon— 04:19, 15 October 2010 (BST)

Ah cockballs. Yeah I'll try a jpg version instead. 04:24, 15 October 2010 (BST)

Also, a heads up that on a mac it looks like this: Image:Screen shot 2010-10-16 at 23.55.50.png and Image:Screen shot 2010-10-16 at 23.56.38.png, on firefox and safari, respectively. -- LEMON #1 14:01, 16 October 2010 (BST)

I had figured that was the desired appearance. >_> —Aichon— 17:09, 16 October 2010 (BST)

This looks amazing. I'll send over a level one consumer. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 17:13, 16 October 2010 (BST)

This is perfect. I've only recently started a consumer (which was suppose to be a joke) who began with a knife in a PD not 4 suburbs away from East Becktown. xD --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 17:22, 16 October 2010 (BST)

Oooh, a resident evil image :). --Thadeous Oakley 17:54, 16 October 2010 (BST)

Yey recruits. And no, not remotely meant to look like that - meant to look like this. 20:02, 16 October 2010 (BST)

Oh WOW. It'd obviously be because I don't have the font. That's why with mine I made the font part of the image :( Either ways, it doesn't make extra lines on my windows machine, but the font still doesn't appear. Also, I'm coming to help. -- LEMON #1 00:57, 17 October 2010 (BST)

Now that I think about it I should probably use images and the click code. I'll do that when TXF: Fight the Future is over. 01:02, 17 October 2010 (BST)

Also anyone coming to help - Uncooked Meat is me, if anyone else is giving profiles I can get a memberlist page made. 18:29, 17 October 2010 (BST)

YOU

Fucking. Irish. Bastard. That is all. --Amber Waves of Pain 13:52, 16 October 2010 (BST)

What I do? 20:02, 16 October 2010 (BST)

Nothin. Just trying to make you feel useful. Also, I did it rite? --Amber Waves of Pain 12:55, 17 October 2010 (BST)

Ello

The reason for the new account is I might forget my user name if I use Thaedracy since on the majority of sites now a days I use Radio as my username. --Radio 01:32, 17 October 2010 (BST)

Meatpuppetry

I have a screenshot showing you meatpuppeting in voters from the RR forums for the crat elections. Time to quit, methinks?--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 21:48, 17 October 2010 (BST)

Come the fuck on. Not a single vote came from my post to Red Rum - and I hope to Christ you're giving DDR the same tone or I'll be very disappointed in the kind of tunnel vision it'd require to only tell one of us off. 21:51, 17 October 2010 (BST)

I am, I'm trying to work out where the fuck DDR's are coming from though. Just struck a proxy one (suggests socks) but the others are arbitrary IPs. I think it might be someone BBKish, but I have no idea who.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 21:52, 17 October 2010 (BST)

Tell him to quit too then. RHO for cat. 21:53, 17 October 2010 (BST)

I don't think it's actually DDR. My initial thought was Jed, but he usually supports you, and the BBK forum's been dead for a year. Seriously, whoever is doing this (and probably reading this sentence) please stop so I can sort this out.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 21:54, 17 October 2010 (BST)

Or let it slide, given that there's like 10 minutes left and your man's winning. 21:56, 17 October 2010 (BST)

Instead of complaining, can you help?--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 21:59, 17 October 2010 (BST)

It's hardly sporting for me to try to detract from the voting for someone who's opposing me. After the fact we can maybe work something out (votes only with w/ >50 edits, etc), but I'm not going to pull the rug out from someone and then go change things. Also none of the people voting for him are ones who would frequent any forums I'd use so I'd not even know where to start if I wanted to. 22:02, 17 October 2010 (BST)

I meant try to work out who it is. I did a quickie scan sort of thing and SA is a possibility, I reckon.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 22:04, 17 October 2010 (BST)

I have absolutely NO idea who did it. SA would only do it to take the piss I think, cause he actually hates me and how uptight I was when he came back.... It couldn't be Jed or the BBK because (even if i wouldn't need the forum cause I could just collaborate with them via phone or something) literally none of them like UD anymore, they would just laugh if I mentioned it. Nick and Jed always vote against me anyway. It started once you pulled out Yon, so maybe someone who had to change their vote did the deed? No idea. -- LEMON #1 22:32, 17 October 2010 (BST)

Wasn't Giles the only vote for Yon at the time though? Could be wrong. 22:36, 17 October 2010 (BST)

It was Michaleson who voted for me. However, I'm strongly inclined to say that the same person was meat/sockpuppeting both sides to try to piss us off.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 22:37, 17 October 2010 (BST)

Wait until the election ends, and we'll sweep through then and mercilessly destroy any we deem unfair.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 22:14, 17 October 2010 (BST)

That'll become a shitfight and a half. If it remains a tie just go by the rules and let the crats decide -- LEMON #1 22:17, 17 October 2010 (BST)

I think that would probably be best considering the level of puppetry that's been going on for both candidates.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 22:22, 17 October 2010 (BST)

My Talk

You can use your sig. Aichon fixed my talk. --Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 22:20, 17 October 2010 (BST)

Oh, right. I was actually just about to see if I could rig a switch to detect the name of a page and change the sig accordingly, then strip down to a smaller version so it wasn't so unwieldy with all that in it. You may have saved me a few hours and a lot of hair. 22:22, 17 October 2010 (BST)

Thank Aichon. It was a ridiculously simple addition to the box. btw, apologies for blaming you for the crat puppetry, as it now seems some irritating third party was doing it all. --Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 22:24, 17 October 2010 (BST)

'Sok. Don't change the outcome of this one based on future policy, though, but if you're going to do something about future votes, do it quick so it doesn't overlap anything (since I don't think there's anything on the horizon yet). 22:26, 17 October 2010 (BST)

Frankly, I think we handled this vote well. We can probably make it by without any dramatic new policy.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 22:27, 17 October 2010 (BST)

If SOMEONE would update the wiki like we asked then we could do it very simply with an Autoconfirmed group. 22:29, 17 October 2010 (BST)

Ok, thanks for the tip :) -Alexander Ignus 12:31, 22 October 2010 (BST)

Discosaurs

Forum. Schenanigans will commence shortly.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 23:00, 17 October 2010 (BST)

I may unidle Tubbasaurus Sex, gimme a few days to see what alts I plan on keeping on using and which I'll probably retire. 23:07, 17 October 2010 (BST)

Coolio.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 23:07, 17 October 2010 (BST)

Dead Hand/Nav

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Your page, Dead Hand/Nav, was not linked to on the wiki. This message is just to provide a link for it and clear it from our orphanage. Inclusions on pages do not count, bu surely you should know that by now... -Dezonus- ^(talk) 23:27, 17 October 2010 (BST)

Speaking of which, I just hit up Barbara and got the cades down and groaned a bit. hopefully it'll help with stuff -- LEMON #1 08:52, 19 October 2010 (BST)

Up to VSB. I got CRed last night, managed to stand up, parachute inside and gank the generator (not bad for a lvl 1!), but it's quite painful to parachute without ankle grab. :( 15:44, 19 October 2010 (BST)

Lol, getting in daily to make groans. Seriously, getting cades from EHB to nothing by myself on a daily basis, I forgot how easy it is to be a zombie, why are you zombie cunts complaining so much? gosh -- LEMON #1 10:16, 22 October 2010 (BST)

If you're on, doors are open and gennie is one hit away from heaven -- LEMON #1 10:18, 22 October 2010 (BST)

http://iamscott.net/128750972369.html

I'm gesturing at a radio! --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 18:38, 19 October 2010 (BST)

I fucking knew it. Same structure as the message for generators? 19:19, 19 October 2010 (BST)

"You gesture at the radio."--Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 20:09, 19 October 2010 (BST)

Figured. I should probably get back to writing these. 20:10, 19 October 2010 (BST)

IRC

I'm in the redrum channel --~ 22:56, 19 October 2010 (BST)

A/PD: Suburb Historical Groups

1. What do you think are the biggest problems with the current system?
2. What criteria do you feel should be used to decide historical status? Time spent in a suburb? Group numbers? Activity generally located within a suburb? Involvement in significant suburb events? What are typical examples of notable groups that have made an impact on the suburb level? Providing these as examples would give the community something to base their vote on.
3. Several groups are historical/notable on more than one suburb. Is that bad? Should groups be limited to one suburb? Should this be more of a "origin" thing or a suburb that a given group has had the most impact on? Is the central problem groups adding themselves to suburbs in which they had minimal impact (or impact only during a brief duration?) Should groups have to pick just one suburb?
4. How will this policy handle nomadic zombie hordes / PKers / survivor groups? Are they SOL or do they pick a suburb or what?
5. What do you do with a group like MFD / MPD?

I think these are some things that should be considered if you are really looking to reform the system. They are also things that may or may not have easy answers (at least I don't have easy answers for, or I would have tried to answer some of my questions). Right now, the policy basically just defines a voting cut-off for passing, and there is little guidance as to what exactly the community should look for when deciding suburb notoriety. Giving a sense of what some of the answers should be for some of these questions would go a long way to tightening up the policy (IMO). -MHSstaff 23:29, 21 October 2010 (BST)

1. The fact it is has zero process and is currently a liability that could easily lead to rows and ill-will. Creating simple and relatively hassle-free (compared to Cat:HG, etc) due process gives a structure to the way things happen that removes this entirely.
2. For a suburb, as opposed to a city as a whole, it should be more lax. A group who is able to shape the play experience in that suburb to any real degree - for example, SFHNAS has definately impacted the safetfy of Kempsterbank, as have CORAM for Lukinswood.
3. Groups which can lay claim to widespread activity across several suburbs should not be prohibited from using all of these suburbs - for example, the RRF would be able to lay claim to the status in Greater Ridleybank as a whole.
4. Truly nomadic groups would simply have to rely on Cat:HG as they do now. This would include groups like MAHB or Red Rum. Groups which are generally nomadic but hold on to a "home base" such as the Philosophe Knights in Lamport Hills, would revert to their "home" suburb.
5. Knock them on their asses.

   23:40, 21 October 2010 (BST)

Bitchin'. This makes more sense now. These ideas should be incorporated into the policy somehow, because right now, it is too bare-boned, too vague, and too, you know...UD wiki like. Can you go here, and fill in to tighten things up? Or not; it's up to you since it is your policy. But I think more people would go for it (including me) if it has a tighter framework around it, and gives a sense of what people should look for. -MHSstaff 00:14, 22 October 2010 (BST)

I don't really see what's needed to add, to be honest. If passed, it then comes down to the common sense of the userbase to maintain it readily, rejecting votes which are clearly stupid and removing groups which either haven't passed or have no claim to the suburb. It's usually a bad idea to put down too much red tape, the idea was to provide just enough to give a sense of order and purpose without being too unwieldy. 00:19, 22 October 2010 (BST)

Sure. It's your policy after all. I just think that if you were hoping to provide guidelines for helping the community decide what groups should go in the magic suburb history thing, than having something that points the community in the direction you described above might be a good thing. Right now, I'd argue that, as written, the policy provides very little sense of purpose or order. To each their own though. -MHSstaff 00:32, 22 October 2010 (BST)

As written it's just meant to provide the beaurocratic framework to let the process happen. I didn't want to clutter it with pointers and examples that don't actually impact the rulings of the thing, though perhaps this conversation could be copied onto the talk page to help explain it. 00:42, 22 October 2010 (BST)

Red Army stuff

In case you missed it, I set up a hidden and password protected forum for the Red Army for communication on Organization XIII's forums (Link to sub-board here). Again, the board won't show up until either me or Yon adjusts your settings to view the board, so PM me or Yon (Yon is rayepenber on the forum) for settings adjustment and the password for the Red Army's sub-board. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 18:41, 23 October 2010 (BST)

Annoyed

I'm rather annoyed that I was not informed that you had removed the DI:MD add, see here: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Category:Recruitment&diff=1800180&oldid=1799795 -Dezonus- ^(talk) 02:46, 24 October 2010 (BST)

Virtually no one gets informed about their recruitment ad being removed. It happens even to groups as large as RRF.

Lazy solution: Just pick a convenient date in the month to always update your time stamp each and every month, and you should never run into that problem again.

Gnome solution: Start to keep an eye on cat:rec and remember to update your own groups while you are at it. It's how I do it and how even a small group as Cobra could never be taken down in months. -- Spiderzed▋ 02:52, 24 October 2010 (BST)

Perhaps a policy should be made then... -Dezonus- ^(talk) 03:05, 24 October 2010 (BST)

Making other people work so that you don't have to is rarely the right answer. Making policies that enforce that other people work so that you don't have to is the right answer even less of the time. You could just ask that it be added as a guideline to the page, but Mis and I would hate you forever and ever since we're the ones that primarily maintain the page (mostly Mis, in recent months, since he's been beating me to it most of the time it needs work). —Aichon— 05:08, 24 October 2010 (BST)

It's in the rules... You read the rules before you posted right? Of course you would have!! So you would know the consequences of leaving an ad there for too long. -- LEMON #1 05:11, 24 October 2010 (BST)

As has been said, it's in the page rules. If you don't update it within two months, it comes down. Same goes for anyone, that's why big groups like RRF often see their ads coming down too. Policy to make the page more lenient is a bad idea. 12:38, 24 October 2010 (BST)

I'm not talking about more leniency, I'm just talking about being courteous enough to tell someone when you remover their add -Dezonus- ^(talk) 12:51, 24 October 2010 (BST)

As someone who does occassionally some maintenance on cat:rec: No. It's already menial and mind-numbing enough as it is. Adding an extra hoop wouldn't help that much, and would neither do much to help groups to remember updates more often. Enter RRF again: They get regularly taken down, but also reemerge regularly, so they know already about the 2 month policy, but don't care enough about it. All what such a policy should do for them is regular talk page spam.

There are a few special instances where notifications are in order (mostly illegal ads like those with too large pics or with auto-updating time-stamps), but the automatic 2 month purge isn't such an instance. -- Spiderzed▋ 13:05, 24 October 2010 (BST)

I would agree with you if Cat:Rec was the staple of group advertising and thriving but it isn't; I'm still more than sure recruitment doesn't actually work as well as it should as an advertising source for your group, so you really aren't losing out on much by having your group removed from it TBH. -- LEMON #1 13:28, 24 October 2010 (BST)

Siege on Sears flyer

Hey i need someone more artistically talented than myself to design a flyer for the Siege on Sears. Can you halp or refer me to someone that may be a good candidate? I'm thinking Zamgrh on one side and English on the other. Something briefly explaining the situation and providing a link to the petition. Zombie art a plus. ~ 14:57, 25 October 2010 (BST)

I'll try mocking something up. I can maybe see if Gor can do something for it, since he's a wizard with the shoops. I'll also drop the link anywhere I can to drum up signitories (totally spelt that wrong). 15:03, 25 October 2010 (BST)

I believe the building names are stretching the cells on the 3x3 building grid. You have my blessing to change it if that piece of information helps. ~ 22:32, 25 October 2010 (BST)

I'll abbreviate things down then. Also how's this grab you? 02:19, 26 October 2010 (BST)

I've been so caught up in IRL stuff lately that I completely neglected to come back to your talk page and look at this. Sorry. Looks good, though. ~ 03:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Siege on Sears

God I love your user page. Anyway, grogh noticed that your MOB zombie is actually over at Sears and while we both kinda went BAH! when we saw you'd wandered away from the horde whilest wearing the tags, we were wondering if you would like to officially represent the horde? --Amber Waves of Pain 05:42, 27 October 2010 (BST)

More Grammar Policing

What you said:

A zombie said "Mah brazzarz! Mah z!zzarz! Zamgrh.!z arz - nah zah harmanz!"
A zombie said "Maz zambahz hab Zamgrh! Mah zambahz ganna ARAZ hab Zamgrh."
A zombie said "Rabahb Zamgrh. AMBRAZ ZAMGRH."

What you should have said:

A zombie said "Mah brazzarz! Mah z!zzarz! Zamgrh am arz - nah zah harmanz!"
A zombie said "Mah zambahz hab Zamgrh! Mah zambahz am ganna ABARGAMZ hab Zamgrh."
A zombie said "Raabab Zamgrh. AMBRAZ ZAMGRH."

Remember, to be is always am. Also, whenever you can't think of a word, don't make it up, check the dictionary. Search KZED if you're lazy. --VVV ^RPMBG 06:06, 27 October 2010 (BST)

Technically, Zamgrh is more like pigeon English than a strict language and it's evolved with what I suppose are accents through different horde cultures. Raabab/Rabahb is like the difference between Potato/Potatoe - Organize/Organise - Color/Colour.

Besides that, Mis is Irish and speaks like a funny little undead leprechaun. Quit bein a grammar Naz!. :P --Amber Waves of Pain 07:04, 27 October 2010 (BST)

See, I see zamgrh as a language defined more by its morphemes and context than by its grammar and syntax - it's about conveying a point as effectively as possible, not about consulting a cipher. 16:12, 27 October 2010 (BST)

You consult the cipher until you've memorized enough to convey your point. That way everyone is speaking the same language. --VVV ^RPMBG 23:30, 27 October 2010 (BST)

It's prescriptivists like you that hold back the development of a language. :P —Aichon— 17:54, 27 October 2010 (BST)

I'm just trying to keep it a little standardized, so that people can learn it with some ease. --VVV ^RPMBG 23:30, 27 October 2010 (BST)