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Aichon

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Announcement: I'm no longer active. My talk page is still your best bet to get in touch. —Aichon— 04:39, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Please be aware of the following guidelines before posting here.

• New conversations should be started at the bottom using a level two header (e.g. ==Header==).
• I like to keep conversations wherever they start, but if a conversation ends up here, I will keep it here.
• I will format comments for stylistic reasons, delete comments for whatever reason, and generally do anything else within reason.

Thanks. —Aichon—

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Calling it...

This will end well. --Thadeous Oakley 00:07, 1 September 2010 (BST)

Jorm gets in to edit conflicts now and again, but he generally backs down if you can provide good evidence for your case. It shouldn't be a major problem.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 00:13, 1 September 2010 (BST)

It'll end up being jorm vs. Rev if it does continue since I'll back off before taking it to arbies. It's not worth it for me, given that I want to see that entire page redesigned anyway. I've found that attempting to predict jorm rarely turns out as I expected in the end, however. —Aichon— 06:14, 1 September 2010 (BST)

My arse. -- LEMON #1 09:03, 1 September 2010 (BST)

Meh, let's hope he doesn't see it then and doesn't come back. After the mayoral drama this just screams "MY SITE ON TOP".--Thadeous Oakley 09:45, 1 September 2010 (BST)

Meh. With the mayor thing he stopped after he was arbied. I doubt he'll go as far this time.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 10:09, 1 September 2010 (BST)

Of course he stopped, he was bound to it by arbies rule. -- LEMON #1 10:38, 1 September 2010 (BST)

Templates8

Hey just wondering if this was likely to change at some point. I'd kind of like to use it if it won't.~ 15:10, 1 September 2010 (BST)

Anything in my Sandbox is likely to change at some point "soon", since they're always subject to change and usually I delete them as soon as I'm done with them. That said, if you want to use it, you're welcome to copy out the template's code to a userpage of your own and then can use that copy of it. I'll probably post it in the public namespace at some point, but I wanted to sit on it for a few more days and possibly get some more feedback before doing that. —Aichon— 18:50, 1 September 2010 (BST)

center image that is 720px wide

my recruitment image won't center, no matter what. it hurts me so. Category:Recruitment#Every_Villain_Is_Lemons_:_Lemon_Group is where it's at and I've tried centred divs, just using <center> and tables. no work so far :*(

Did I miss something? I would prefer my image centred in the ad. -- LEMON #1 06:55, 6 September 2010 (BST)

I'm in a bit of a hurry at the moment, so here's a fixed version for you. You had misplaced a quotation mark on the first line. I fixed your table for you too since it was broken. Also, you need to subst that ClickInternal template since nested templates aren't allowed on the Recruitment page. —Aichon— 15:46, 6 September 2010 (BST)

Fucking amazing. Thanks bro. -- LEMON #1 02:07, 7 September 2010 (BST)

Actually, it still won't center on the recruitment page :*( so DW, I don't mind having it on the left. -- LEMON #1 02:09, 7 September 2010 (BST)

Figured out what the problem is (you may have noticed on RC that it took me awhile to figure out). Anyway, long story short, the issue is that you apparently need text to stretch out the table that is housing the advertisement inclusion on the Recruitment page. So, basically, slap in a load of text. I mocked up an example (which also cuts out some other cruft that you still have in your code) at that same page, so you should see how it works and what text it is that I'm talking about. Just make the text long enough to line wrap and everything should work fine, basically. I wish I had a more elegant solution, but it's the best I can come up with for now. —Aichon— 06:03, 7 September 2010 (BST)

Hey, yeah, I saw it and I meant to post here a few times but somehow forgot once I'd reached here. I saw it, it's such a strange happening but thanks heaps for fixing it. Unless I find the effort to put a div over the text to cover it sometime, I probably won't use it yet, hidden text is kinda lame and it's sad that that's the only way we could get around this :( Thanks heaps for the help. -- LEMON #1 00:33, 11 September 2010 (BST)

Well, if you change the table on the Recruitment page itself, you could make it work. Otherwise, you have to force it to stretch or it won't work. But I'm not sure what the folks over there would think of that idea. —Aichon— 05:36, 11 September 2010 (BST)

Actually, all the centering techniques worked fine until embedded as a template, so theoretically if I was inclined to modify the actual recruitment article inside the page all I'd have to do was just do Image|center|850px etc. However, I'm not really interested in bending the rules for this minor thing in the slightest, especially compared to the amount of possible (legit) disappointment by the restricted rule abiders if I was allowed to. DW. -- LEMON #1 14:10, 11 September 2010 (BST)

Can I solicit a message from you?

I spent some time thinking about my Knights-death (the one from DD) and would appreciate if I could have a moment of your time to talk about it, since it turns out that it's actually seriously bugging me. And since the musings are both very OOC and hilariously pathetic, I'd rather not spam the wiki with it.

If the answer simply is no, I understand.

-pinkgothic 23:26, 7 September 2010 (BST)

There's a link in the side navigation bar that you can use to e-mail me (the one that says "E-mail this user"). Feel free to shoot one my way, but my time is kinda limited today and tomorrow, so depending on how much thought you want from me, I may not have time to get back to you in depth immediately. —Aichon— 23:41, 7 September 2010 (BST)

Ah! See, I wasn't sure if your wiki-associated e-mail is the one you use. Thanks for the heads-up. And by all means, real life is far more important than the internet - I wouldn't dream of an immediate answer. -pinkgothic 00:07, 8 September 2010 (BST)

All of my addresses feed back to the same inbox eventually. ;)

Anyway, I'll try to get back to you in detail as soon as I can, but, as I said, it'll likely be late tomorrow or the day after. It's looking like I have an all-nighter ahead of me as it is since I'm either leading or helping to lead about 4-5 hours' worth of meetings/groups/seminars tomorrow, none of which I've prepared for yet. So...yeah. I'll get back to you as soon as I can, but probably not until tomorrow night at the earliest. Sorry I couldn't be speedier about it, and thanks for being understanding. —Aichon— 01:11, 8 September 2010 (BST)

Judgement Calls

Back in April, you expressed concerns about my ability to make judgement calls as a 'sop. Now that I've had the job for 5 months, what are your thoughts? Have I managed to sort them out and keep myself under control in drama-ish situations?--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 22:27, 9 September 2010 (BST)

Yep. I'd say you've proven yourself just fine since then. I was actually just thinking the other day about how I was glad DDR had pushed/supported you for the job in the months before you applied, since he turned out to be very correct about you as a sysop. —Aichon— 22:56, 9 September 2010 (BST)

Thanks! :D Very much the same for you. I've just gone back through my bid and I'm having a look to see if I've fixed the problems raised.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 23:14, 9 September 2010 (BST)

Scroll boxes

and such--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 10:00, 10 September 2010 (BST)

Sounds like you got it sorted out before I had a chance to go over it, but if you still need any help with it, let me know and I'll take a look. —Aichon— 21:23, 10 September 2010 (BST)

Nah, I'm good, thanks. I can sort anything from here. But if anything does coem up, I'll let you know.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 21:25, 10 September 2010 (BST)

what i do?

hey i tried removing and editing the news template and totally fucked that up. still getting a feel for coding.. blah blah blah.----sexualharrison ¯\()/¯ 00:02, 18 September 2010 (BST)

You almost had it right. You just removed a }} that was on a line by itself at the end of the list that needed to stay there. Check my edit to see the difference in how it was done. —Aichon— 00:04, 18 September 2010 (BST)

it's always something stupid.. smacks forehead. well at least I know how to revert :P----sexualharrison ¯\()/¯ 01:58, 18 September 2010 (BST)

UD Refresh Button

The link 404's. If you still have this, it'd be awesome. :) -Austin Hunt 04:18, 21 September 2010 (BST)

Try now. It wasn't a case of me having deleted it. It was a case of me forgetting to upload it in the first place. >_< Anyway, I haven't actually modified Midianian's version of it at all, so, if mine does ever disappear again, you can use his. Alternatively, I've rolled this behavior into Barrista as one of the extra buttons it adds. —Aichon— 04:44, 21 September 2010 (BST)

Grr...

You and your double edit conflicts for that suggestion's discussion. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 23:20, 21 September 2010 (BST)

:P —Aichon— 23:25, 21 September 2010 (BST)

because you seem to be the greasiest sysop type

what happened to act on profile? i need a bite as human attack script pretty plz ----sexualharrison ¯\()/¯ 14:35, 22 September 2010 (BST)

Does it no longer work? It actually never worked for me in my browser of choice, so I can't say that I ever used it or was aware of the fact that it was broken. You might talk to Revenant about it, however, since I believe that he used, and I got the impression that he was still using it as of recently. He could probably direct you to a fixed version if the old one is broken. —Aichon— 15:35, 22 September 2010 (BST)

i'll bring it up to him. i don't know if it's broken.. it's just not working for me anymore. i updated most of my scripts and that was the one that stopped working. i think your barista script conflickts with it or something along those lines.----sexualharrison ¯\()/¯ 01:10, 23 September 2010 (BST)

The Barista script conflicts with a lot of things. DSS Satellite Phone included. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 01:14, 23 September 2010 (BST)

Ah, I gotcha. Yeah, it's Barrista then. I just figured you were asking me in general. I didn't realize you were using that script. Problem is, both of those are scripts I can't use with Safari, or else I'd be more inclined to identify the problems between them and Barrista and then fix them wherever they are. I'll add notes to Barrista though, since you're not the only one reporting that issue. —Aichon— 01:43, 23 September 2010 (BST)

Bug report

Hi Aichon. Not that I'm particularly pissed off about this, but why did you delete my bug report saying that it was fake? As stupid (and funny) as it seems, this actually did happen and I genuinely wanted to know what the hell was going on. Ah well. ~~ Chief Seagull ~~ ^talk 18:01, 23 September 2010 (BST)

For one, it's a fake because the character who took the screen was not the same character that you said you used. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 18:05, 23 September 2010 (BST)

That doesn't prove it's fake. If I wanted to make a fake report (and I wouldn't know how) I would've used my own character, or at least that actually existed. ~~ Chief Seagull ~~ ^talk 18:10, 23 September 2010 (BST)

User in question doesn't exist.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 18:16, 23 September 2010 (BST)

If you say, on your honor, that it's legit, then just undo my edit. Since that page is used for "srs bzns" that goes in front of Kevan, however, I don't like the idea of reports that waste his time getting taken seriously. —Aichon— 18:25, 23 September 2010 (BST)

I didn't want to do that because I didn't want to get into any poxy edit wars and it's obvious my query won't get resolved (or even taken seriously), but trust me this is legit. After all, producing the basic HTML page would be easy enough, but than I'd have to hack into either the UD or Dumbwit servers to present the report and that's beyond me. ~~ Chief Seagull ~~ ^talk 18:33, 23 September 2010 (BST)

Not really. It's much simpler than that to fake them. And I'm not one to start edit wars over something like this. If you say it's legit, then I'll treat it as legit. End of story. I just thought you were making a joke before, hence why I deleted it. If it is a legit report though, then others might face it eventually, so it's worth keeping there. —Aichon— 18:35, 23 September 2010 (BST)

Oh fuck off as if that's legit. -- LEMON #1 23:18, 23 September 2010 (BST)

Clearly, Kevan set this up to happen to a very small number of people, in order to create entertainment, intrigue, and drama when everyone denies it as preposterous. He probably put the real character names in the dropdown menus to make it less believable. The clever bastard. --VVV ^RPMBG 01:10, 2 October 2010 (BST)

UD Item Combiner, Organizer, and Sorter

Thanks for maintaining this script, I'm desperate for it now that UDToolbar is broken again with the 9/16 game changes. However, when it's enabled, DSS Satellite Phone doesn't seem to work. I get beep notifications from my phone, but the phone window won't open. Any suggestions? Thank you! --Groovymarlin 19:48, 28 September 2010 (BST)

Update DSS phone. Theres a post 19/6 update. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 19:49, 28 September 2010 (BST)

Sure enough that fixed my problem. Thank you! (And I was sure I had updated it...must have been another one.)--Groovymarlin 19:56, 28 September 2010 (BST)

Another satisfied customer. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 19:58, 28 September 2010 (BST)

I came up with an Idea, but need your input

I thought it would be cool if we had a wiki User of the Month Competition. Now, this would probably have to be run by Sysops, so, I'm Asking for your input here. And dont worry, I've asked the other Sysops too.

Cheers,
-Dezonus- ^(talk) 14:55, 2 October 2010 (BST)

Massively Overdue Quizzle Prize

	Dancing Bear made of Gold!
	Yonnua has given Aichon an animated .gif of a dancing bear made of gold for solving a quizzle! (It might take a second to load)

--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 23:24, 2 October 2010 (BST)

Improvements to UDMap Script

I made several improvements to the UDMap script that I'd like to share with the rest of the world. My version of the script is currently available here. Would you be willing to incorporate these changes back into your own script page? I figured it would be easier for people to download off of your page since they already know where to find it, etc. I don't even have my own User:Thvortex page setup yet on the wiki. Anyway, below is the list of improvements I made.

• Clicking on a space in the suburb map opens the wiki page for that location in a new browser window. Yes, this works for all 100,000 locations :) It's handy for checking the recent status of a building. It did make the script about 300KB larger to include the link information.
• When moving the mouse over the suburb, there is now a GPS coordinate added to the name of the building or street over which the mouse is hovering.
• Clicking on the city map to change the suburb view did not work in Firefox and GreaseMonkey because of the security model that GreaseMonkey uses. Basically window.switch_map doesn't work but GreaseMonkey has a workaround in the form of unsafeWindow.switch_map. Please verify my script still works in Safari though.
• I make use of DumbWitness a lot, and I noticed that UDMap didn't quite work right in the captured screenshot. Basically, moving the mouse over the suburb map was not displaying the building names anymore. Turns out that DumbWitness was munging the page a little bit and when it saw a \" double-quote escape in a Javascript string it would cut off the rest of the code. So in one place I switched to using single quotes and apparently DumbWitness doesn't mind a \' escape. Of course, clicking on the city map in the DumbWitness screenshot still won't do anything because that requires a call-back to the user script, and that's no longer accessible in the captured screenshot.

--Thvortex 20:58, 12 October 2010 (BST)

Holy cow, those changes are awesome and that's a lot of work you did there. Looking through the diff file, I don't see anything unexpected, and after installing it on Safari and fooling around with it a bit, I absolutely love the changes you made (and, yep, the unsafeWindow change works fine).

How did you get all of the location links anyway? I had considered a feature like that at one point, but didn't feel like making a program to go through and determine the valid ones links from the invalid. I figured it'd just be easier and more generally useful at this point to push through a wiki project which aimed to create pages for each set of coordinates which then redirect to the actual location page, but I hadn't gotten around to that either. >_<

The only change I might make is to put the coordinates at the front of the line, rather than the end, that way they don't look like they bounce around so much, but otherwise I absolutely love it all.

Also, I get the distinct impression that you're much more proficient at this stuff than I am (it's just an idle time hobby for me), so any changes you want to suggest to other scripts would be most welcome. —Aichon— 21:29, 12 October 2010 (BST)

What I'd like to know is if this will break any of Aichon's current scripts... >_< --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 21:34, 12 October 2010 (BST)

It doesn't. The changes he made don't affect any of my other scripts from what I can see. I'll have an updated copy linked from my userscripts page in a sec. I did move the coords to the front of the name, and I also turned off the display for dark buildings and educational buildings, since I had inadvertently uploaded that version of the script awhile back (I use that myself for my Philosophe Knight, since we care about Centers of Learning, but I didn't mean to put it up for general use), but otherwise left it pretty much as you had it, Thvortex. —Aichon— 21:41, 12 October 2010 (BST)