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Revision as of 23:48, 11 April 2011
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Thanks and Stay Vigilant! Jensonson About Me The Fortress Talk BOOM TFN TV Promo Join
North by Bortheast 2010
Hey O! The Burchell Newscast Team is recording your current event.
http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/North_by_Northeast_2010
GREAT EASTSIDE RP CLEANUP
Hello Fortress! This is Dimmswick, from the Big Prick, inviting you to join us on the GREAT EASTSIDE RP CLEANUP. Doubtless you're all busy and whatnot, but there's about a month before it starts, so maybe you could send at least a few folks to come help us out. The east is a mess, and we could use all the help we can get. Thanks a lot, hope to see you there!
- Dimmswick 05:48, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
- Hello Dimmswick. Great to see another mega-operation about to get underway - Malton will dearly appreciate it! The Fortress has been running a joint mass operation of its own, which means that our two op's should overlap and run side by side at times - can't think of anything better! We began in the middle and we're down low at the moment but the east will be getting good coverage. With the state of Malton at the start of 2010 we also realized the importance of combining forces to emergency recover suburbs that might otherwise stay lost for good. Look forward to meeting some of you in one of many inevitable cross-overs ;) Jensonson About Me The Fortress Talk BOOM TFN TV Promo Join 18:34, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Blackhawk Nation - Alliance
It seems that we are both active in Shackleville at the present time. It seems like it would be beneficial for both of us to form an alliance and work together. You can check out our wiki page at Blackhawk Nation. We have twenty plus active members and would look forward to joint campaigns with you. --Cheveyo 09:11, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for your offer Cheveyo but we are not looking to form an alliance at this time. Jensonson About Me The Fortress Talk BOOM TFN TV Promo Join 22:09, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Great Suburb Group Massacre 2010
Group Confirmed. | |
This group was confirmed active. Thank you for your reply. |
All groups of any size are being asked. Thanks --TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 23:35, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
- Active = Very yes. :P --Bob Boberton TF / DW 03:01, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
No Confirmation E-mail
I have yet to get a confirmation E-mail after i joined your forms. SO i can't post or anything. I've been sitting here a week now waiting. I got the E-mail to the Message board but that's it.--Ltpotter 00:23, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- Weren't you kicked out of the DHPD for zerging and revealing confidential information to people outside the group? I believe you were. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 07:40, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- That incident was several months ago. So I decided to tried joining your group so i sent an e-mail to the place i was suppose to. I was accepted into your and now I'm just waiting for the commiseration E-mail... and for the record... AGAIN... I did not actually zerg. I proved I didn't zerg. --Ltpotter 16:20, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- I think you're mistaking me for someone from The Fortress. This just jumps onto my watchlist for some reason. I'll humour you about the zerging, what about revealing confidential group information? Should I ask the DHPD? -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 16:36, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- Not sure what confidential group information was acctuly revealed. I never even learned where they got THEIR info from. --Ltpotter 01:02, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
- I think you're mistaking me for someone from The Fortress. This just jumps onto my watchlist for some reason. I'll humour you about the zerging, what about revealing confidential group information? Should I ask the DHPD? -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 16:36, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- That incident was several months ago. So I decided to tried joining your group so i sent an e-mail to the place i was suppose to. I was accepted into your and now I'm just waiting for the commiseration E-mail... and for the record... AGAIN... I did not actually zerg. I proved I didn't zerg. --Ltpotter 16:20, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Dearest CORAM Allies
I am writing today to request a lickle favour. As much as we're kinda enjoying it, we're being daily RK'd and GK'd by Mormonpussy.
For sure, some of us have been spamming the EBS which in itself is RK worthy, and I hate to snitch, but we'd appreciate a little help with Mormonpussy's new in-game - game.
If you could be so kind, please report any Mormonpussy sitings on 27.50MHz, or simply rip him to pieces on our behalf. He's a pleasant enough griefer, but we could sure use some back-up. (Or if you hate us, join his Anti-CORAM group!)
Many, many thanks xxxxxxxxx -- ▧ : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 09:38, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- Hi there Lady Clitoria. Wow, that's quite a unique fan-club you have there. It's refreshing to see a "griefer" with a sense of humour and an actual care of the game. It's just as refreshing to see your reaction and I wish you all the best in "the game". Hopefully you'll get some vigilant Fortress members broadcasting some clues through your radio receivers - that's if Mormonpussy hasn't destroyed them all of course! Stay Vigilant! Jensonson About Me The Fortress Talk BOOM TFN TV Promo Join 23:44, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Question
Given your repeated stance on zerging, why are you working with yet another group of zergs in Ridleybank? --Papa Johnny 14:09, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- Papa Johnny - If you do have any evidence that we may need to review please could you email it to us: FortressApplicant@live.com
- The only activity we have had in Ridleybank in March was Team Anaconda's recent game of Hide and Seek in and around Ridleybank. This operation involved plenty of RRF assassinations, which may have gained your attention as the zombie victims being shot, but it was not an inter-group game and so we were not working with any zombie or survivor groups. If you wish to send us a list of zergs you have recently encountered then The Fortress will gladly include this in our ongoing investigations against zerging. As the leading survivor group of UD we have a strong influence in being able to expose known zergers. However I recommend you always report any zergers to Resens.
- The Fortress and the RRF have had a very long and friendly history in UD and I'd appreciate not being accused so casually. Jensonson About Me The Fortress Talk BOOM TFN TV Promo Join 23:38, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Forums
Sorry to bother you all. A guy from your group came over to the Clan's forums and asked me to come over to your forums to discuss something. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find your forum link (I'm assuming you like to keep it fairly private) so I haven't come over. I replied on our forums to your ambassador's message, desribing my problem, but he hasn't been back to read it. Can I have the link please, or maybe you'd like to arrange something else? We're allies, so I'm not gonna go spreading it around to our enemies or anything silly like that. ;) Thanks. --Jsrbrunty 19:40, 15 April 2010 (BST)
- Sorry about that, it completely slipped my mind ... I joined your forum and sent you a PM. Let me know what's most convenient for you. ~ Prep Fortress - BS13:19, 17 April 2010 (BST)
Dispute on NSU forums
Hello,
I'm glad the trouble we had on the forums of the NSU is over. As you know the NSU has never declared war on a group and was hostile to no survivor groups when we were founded. Our enemies, including the FUACK, declared war themselves. Perhaps we could strengthen the relationship between our groups with an alliance?
Greetings, Cornholioo 6:46, 1 May 2010 (BST)
An Invitation
We at the MMS would like to invite our friends at the Fortress to join us in celebrating the coronation of our new Head Administrator and new Head Nurse. There will alcohol, naked twister, random displays of insanity, and much much more. (Which means I ran out of things to say and I will most likely be making things up as the party goes along.) Hope to see you there!
tinyurl.com/WBbash
- I hope to be able to attend this! Congrats MMS, I'll see you on the IRC. ;-) ~ Prep Fortress - BS 01:34, 23 May 2010 (BST)
On Advertising
You've got an ad linked to this wiki page on the Urbandead AP-out screen! I think it's fantastic and would like to enquire about the likely frequency with which I'll be seeing said advertisement. --Visible One 05:45, 1 June 2010 (BST)
- Hey Vis! The aforementioned ad was the brainchild of Miss Elainious and Avatorous and is run periodically on the weekends mainly (I think?). You would do better to inquire to Miss E directly as she funds that particular segment. Joining Fortress forum would probably be the easiest way of talking to her. Catch me on the IRC for the url. Cheers! ~ Prep Fortress - BS 15:39, 12 June 2010 (BST)
Time to take Fort Perryn Back
As an area survivor group, we are asking for your assistance in the repair and holding of Fort Perryn in order to resist the Big Bash as it comes ever close to your area of Malton. Please send any troups you can spare to rebuild and power the fort so that we may make a full showing against the horde. --Timerider3 20:29, 2 July 2010 (BST)
Recruitment
Concerning your group advert on the Category:Recruitment page, you may be interested to know that a vote is currently underway concerning the duration of time adverts can be reserved by a given timestamp. Your input is welcomed, and it should be known that if this vote passes you will need to update your adverts on a at least a monthly basis, not a two-monthly basis. Thanks. 00:43, 25 July 2010 (BST)
Is your Radio frequency still in use?
Thanks for the Reply! | |
Thanks Bro!
Because of your timely reply, your frequency reservation will be preserved. |
I'm sorry if this is an inconvenience or it seems relatively stupid when put into context of your group, but it is our interest to treat all groups on the same level when doing these purges. A reply within 2 weeks will be greatly appreciated. -- LEMON #1 13:04, 25 August 2010 (BST)
- Hey, no problem. It just so happens that I'm extremely active this week. The Fortress is still active and I suppose on occasion we use the frequency listed on that page. Thanks for dropping by DDR! ~ Prep Fortress - BS 02:54, 26 August 2010 (BST)
Dispatch from the Philosophe Knights
pH has been declared persona non grata and his diplomatic access revoked. If you wish to maintain an embassy, please provide an envoy not guilty of using privileged forum access to steal information from other games. His Imperial & Royal Highness, the Archduke d’Œuvre
Thank you, Schoony, great job!
So my rotter was standing, peacefully, inside an empty, DWO and lit designated rot revive clinic, and who came along but Team Battlehawk's esteemed leader Schoony! That rot revive seemed as good as mine! But wait, what's this? Instead of spending 10AP to revive me, he's spent probably double that to headshot me and dump me out on the street... And then EHB'd a building that is supposed to be cade-free. Hmmm... Mind explaining yourself? --BOSCH 20:19, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
Edit: Darn holidays! This is what happens when one tries to work fast and doesn't apply proper vigilance! Haste makes waste!!! Sorry, dude!
I will also note that the building was ruined when I went in today, and has never been uncaded since I came to the suburb (not by my doing) a few days ago. I've healed survivors who can revive zombies inside. I skipped over the wiki because of my experience with this building for the past few days. I'll make a note for the Fortress people in the area so they don't make the same error. Trust me, I would have rather had the ammo and the AP as well. If you want a revive, let me know and I'll see what I can do. Thanks to Hawke for letting me know about this post. --Schoony 20:24, 2 January 2011 (UTC)Schoony
- For friendly future reference, rot revives are possible in any powered and lit NT building, regardless of the ruin status. In fact, I've seen many rotters who seek life often camp in ruined NTs, hoping that someone see the efficiency in dropping and fuelling a generator inside, and effectively combat reviving them all out before repairing. Today, the generator was already set up for you! But thank you for the apology, it's appreciated. --BOSCH 21:47, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
GSGM 11
Group Active? Request. | |
In order to maintain the wiki as an up to date source of information, groups are occasionally removed from the Suburb pages which they are no longer active in. We would like to know in what suburbs this group is currently active.
Please list the suburb(s) you are currently active in. |
Any response here will be enough, but please list suburbs you're actually active in. This is a generic message and not directed at any particular group. 23:57, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
- Although The Fortress combat teams constantly roam most of the burbs of Malton we are currently holding permanent territory in the following suburbs: Shackleville, Fryerbank and Whittenside. Thanks, Jensonson. Jensonson About Me The Fortress Talk BOOM TFN TV Promo Join 21:24, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Fortress Member Vandalizing of the Ridleybank Wiki
One of your members, Grevane, littered the Ridleybank suburb page with a lot of POV stuff that didn't belong (and has since been removed). One such thing was a claim that the RRF was unable to stop your team in Ridleybank until they got bored and left even though we have Iwits that prove they were indeed engaged in Moggridge Place Police Dept. and suffered loses. Editing the wiki to include giving the RRF the finger, lies about how they got out without a claw being laid on them, ect. You can also see how MHSstaff had to go through and return it to NPOV. The RRF believes in respecting it's opponents and all that stuff but the actions of your membership on the wiki has made it hard to do so in regards to your group. I've enjoyed talking civilly to members of your group before I became Papa and hope this isn't a reflection of how our future dealings will go. The RRF has never defaced your home suburb's page with POV crap and insulted your inability to defend it any of the countless times we've smashed it. We'd appreciate it if you'd help maintain the NPOV on our suburb page as well. -- Papa Jadkor (RRF) (MotA) (MT11) 19:06, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- Hello Jadkor, at first I'd like to say that I'm not a superior of any kind nor a high ranked member of The Fortress, don't take my answer as an official answer in the name of the group but as Grevane's team mate on Team Anaconda I'd like to add my bit. I don't think he made the edits in bad faith, the "Ridleybank's Things to do" is clearly POV referencing the RRF several times. NPOV examples: "And if you can't come up with a good reason to scream the RRF will find one for you.", "The RRF and local ferals guarantee that if you're not dead by the third hour outside, then the brainz are on us!", "However, the recent return of the RRF has installed bloodbaths in many safehouses, please check with your masseur before relaxing.", "Feel free to do so, and when you see the RRF, keep in mind they want your shotguns more than your revive syringes." and "Don't kill zombies! - This pastime is widely in use for those that wish to remain breathing and/or keep all their limbs attached to their bodies!", now I don't think any of your members made those of bad faith neither but for me as an outsider it feels sligthly insulting. I didn't speak with Grevane about the case since I'm not his superior but I assume he could've got insulted as well, of course this is not a reason to insult other groups but Ridleybank page is, according to my humble opnion, clearly needing some edits. I think you should take into consideration that Grevane is a member of the Wiki community for just a single month and according to the Vandalism page: "We make the following notes on what isn't vandalism: An unwanted edit to any page." and "It is considered extremely poor form to automatically assume that a person's edit was an act of vandalism.". Well, I'm sorry if you or any member of your group felt offended by his edits, there's nothing I can do about the matter so I'll forward your message to our Commander. Thanks for your attention and I hope our groups can work, if not together, at least in a good relationship in the future. And yeah lol, the finger thing was unnecessary... ~THOROAEBORUS 19:53, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- Of course the RRF is mentioned often on the suburb wiki, the group has been there since 2005 and it's hard to separate the history of Ridleybank from the history of the RRF, so just because it is often mentioned does not make it POV. However there are parts that are POV, however we are willing to work with survivors to fix that. Even some of Grevane's POV comments were edited by RRF members to be NPOV and show both sides. Ridleybank is also one of (if not the only) suburb to display barricade plans for both sides. And yes we shouldn't assume some's edits are intentionally done in bad faith but if you go through the history and look at them they are clearly meant to be insulting and derogatory to the RRF, I doubt you could spin it any other way. And some claims are just lies, as you yourself can not dispute because you died in the incident. While you guys were found and killed in Ridleybank during your mission Grevane would have those not present believe that you guys were out of the suburb when that happened, him claiming you were long gone due to boredom and what not even though you were in fact there and the suburb was returning to ruin before you got out. Given his direct insults and lies it's hard to see it as anything other than being done in bad faith without insulting one's own intelligence. I've pointed out mistakes to new wiki members and we've gotten on fine from there but when I attempted to discuss such a thing with Grevane he removed my comments without addressing my concerns. If a Ridley had done a similar thing to the Fortress or any other survivor group they would be reprimanded because even though they did it on their own authority it reflects on the group as a whole. I do hope for continued civil behavior between our groups, while we chase you and you shoot at us. PS. That pic is dated from Feb. 19 while his wiki edits say you were long gone on the 15th. Also all TRPs were recorded re-ruined over the next day and a half that followed the taking of that pic. -- Papa Jadkor (RRF) (MotA) (MT11) 20:30, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- Well, I never said we weren't killed, if you check OP Dead Space at our Operations Archive you'll see that we acknowledge the death of "many members", as stated there. I didn't write the OP's description but if you think it's also insulting tell me and I'll modify it. Checking our forum archives OP Dead Space was ended at the night of 19th Feb after our primary objectives were accomplished (the suburb went from red to orange and then yellow in the course of a week) but I don't want here to sell the qualities of neither RRF nor team Anaconda, I don't see how this has space in the discussion which was initially about Vandalism. I think you're taking this too much into personnal level, I never said I wasn't killed nor that I'd dispute such a thing as you were supposing and also, as I said, I don't have authority to reprimend anyone in the group but I've already forwarded your complains to my Commander, what will come out of this is his say and not mine. If you want to know what he'll do with me or anyone else you'll have to wait for his reply. Last thing: I agree that he was insulting on some of his comments and that it's sometimes hard to separate the history of RRF and Ridleybank itself but my point that some of those statements (those at the "Things to do") are overly POV and unnecessary is still valid. ~THOROAEBORUS 21:13, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- I didn't want you to take how I involved you as some implication of guilt on your part, I was more using it to illustrate how Grevane was blatantly lying about the RRF only ruining it after you left on the NPOV wiki even though evidence from both sides goes against what he said. And I actually read your report and I have no problem with it, and if I did it would be irrelevant because it is your group's page and not a public one. I just want to stress that my being upset isn't targeted at you or your group, I merely believe that we can't let the fact that someone who was angry they got eaten justify them lying and posting POV stuff on the wiki. I was simply bringing this to your group's attention so they would know how the public actions of a member is negatively reflecting on their group and harming the civil attitudes that had previously been the norm. As for the Ridleybank wiki the user MHSstaff does a lot of wiki stuff and if you two put your heads together and swapped ideas I'm sure you could address the issues you have so it's balanced for all. -- Papa Jadkor (RRF) (MotA) (MT11) 21:29, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- Well, I never said we weren't killed, if you check OP Dead Space at our Operations Archive you'll see that we acknowledge the death of "many members", as stated there. I didn't write the OP's description but if you think it's also insulting tell me and I'll modify it. Checking our forum archives OP Dead Space was ended at the night of 19th Feb after our primary objectives were accomplished (the suburb went from red to orange and then yellow in the course of a week) but I don't want here to sell the qualities of neither RRF nor team Anaconda, I don't see how this has space in the discussion which was initially about Vandalism. I think you're taking this too much into personnal level, I never said I wasn't killed nor that I'd dispute such a thing as you were supposing and also, as I said, I don't have authority to reprimend anyone in the group but I've already forwarded your complains to my Commander, what will come out of this is his say and not mine. If you want to know what he'll do with me or anyone else you'll have to wait for his reply. Last thing: I agree that he was insulting on some of his comments and that it's sometimes hard to separate the history of RRF and Ridleybank itself but my point that some of those statements (those at the "Things to do") are overly POV and unnecessary is still valid. ~THOROAEBORUS 21:13, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- Of course the RRF is mentioned often on the suburb wiki, the group has been there since 2005 and it's hard to separate the history of Ridleybank from the history of the RRF, so just because it is often mentioned does not make it POV. However there are parts that are POV, however we are willing to work with survivors to fix that. Even some of Grevane's POV comments were edited by RRF members to be NPOV and show both sides. Ridleybank is also one of (if not the only) suburb to display barricade plans for both sides. And yes we shouldn't assume some's edits are intentionally done in bad faith but if you go through the history and look at them they are clearly meant to be insulting and derogatory to the RRF, I doubt you could spin it any other way. And some claims are just lies, as you yourself can not dispute because you died in the incident. While you guys were found and killed in Ridleybank during your mission Grevane would have those not present believe that you guys were out of the suburb when that happened, him claiming you were long gone due to boredom and what not even though you were in fact there and the suburb was returning to ruin before you got out. Given his direct insults and lies it's hard to see it as anything other than being done in bad faith without insulting one's own intelligence. I've pointed out mistakes to new wiki members and we've gotten on fine from there but when I attempted to discuss such a thing with Grevane he removed my comments without addressing my concerns. If a Ridley had done a similar thing to the Fortress or any other survivor group they would be reprimanded because even though they did it on their own authority it reflects on the group as a whole. I do hope for continued civil behavior between our groups, while we chase you and you shoot at us. PS. That pic is dated from Feb. 19 while his wiki edits say you were long gone on the 15th. Also all TRPs were recorded re-ruined over the next day and a half that followed the taking of that pic. -- Papa Jadkor (RRF) (MotA) (MT11) 20:30, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Papa, I'm the CO of Anaconda and as such the buck stops with me, I'm sorry for any offense, the Fortress has always had a good relationship with the RRF (all be it on different sides.) The RRF did ruin the PD while we were still inside and even killed a few of our members, I myself was down to 12HP when I did a tactical retreat. --- User:Puppiemaster 21:34, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
I am going to chalk up a lot of this to the guy being somewhat new to the wiki, somewhat excited about venturing into Ridleybank with one of the oldest survivor groups in the game, and probably didn't really get the whole suburb NPOV stuff. All we are really asking is when you do make edits to the page, try to keep some element of NPOV to your edits. So you rocked the hell out of Blackmore? Yeah you did. Awesome. Update the news page with that mofo. But don't go out of your way to provoke groups for the sake of provoking groups with pointless propaganda. Yeah, not really your fault. Yeah, not really the Fortress's fault. Not too big of deal. Just something to keep in mind for next time.
I do agree with you that there was POV on the page before he edited, and I removed some of it from our side. My take with the other section that you mentioned is "eh, harmless, whatever" but if you feel that it does not belong, make changes and we'll find some compromise. Having one of your members give us the middle finger, although absolutely hilarious in a five minute MMO browser game, probably isn't the best step in that direction.
Long story short: Not really that big of a deal. Everything is cool. Keep your edits somewhat NPOV. -MHSstaff 21:36, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- This is why he handles the wiki stuff, he's more level headed :P -- Papa Jadkor (RRF) (MotA) (MT11) 21:43, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Cobra extends its gratitude
Cobra would just love to say we enjoyed killing you guys. Thanks! Maybe we could do it again sometime :D
Before Cobra- http://iamscott.net/1302563030826.html
After Cobra- http://iamscott.net/1302565138617.html