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We joined the wiki on the same day.--Yonnua Koponen ^{T G P} ^^^ 16:34, 27 April 2011 (BST)

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dutch pysops rule ta wiki -- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 11:04, 30 April 2011 (BST)

Ja, bro, de Nederlanders zijn allemaal op in deze stront. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 11:10, 30 April 2011 (BST)

I'm going to have to inform you that sentence is grammatically incorrect. Dutch=Awesomeness though. You should visit! -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 11:14, 30 April 2011 (BST)

I'm not surprised, seeing as it was direct via Google translate… and yes, Netherlands is on my to-do list, hopefully within the year if all goes well. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 12:08, 30 April 2011 (BST)

Yeah cunts I'll come to dutchland and we can have a big fat cog-infested hollandish party yah? -- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 16:35, 30 April 2011 (BST)

Holy ballhole, I didn't mean for that to sound to awful. Don't worry brothers, I'm drunk on the tooheys but when I get to holland I'll hit back those heinikens liek there's no tomorow! -- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 16:37, 30 April 2011 (BST)

It's clog, klootzak.
Woo Tooheys! I'm on the Boag's. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 16:41, 30 April 2011 (BST)

LOL, surprised nobody has mentioned our famous export products yet. It's what 2/3 of the tourists come for anyway, but seeing how you behave when drunk it's prolly a bad idea. Also looking at the horrible dutch spoken here, it's probably a good thing the Netherlands is one of the best English speaking countries in Europe aside from (obviously) England and Ireland. Our accent is crinch-worthy though, really bad sometimes. -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 17:26, 30 April 2011 (BST)

My parents never taught us Dutch because it's what their generation spoke when they didn't want the kids to understand. And yeah, all my Dutch cousins speak excellent English. Learning Dutch is on my to-do list. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 17:36, 30 April 2011 (BST)

The practical use of Dutch is limited, since it's not spoken anywhere outside the Netherlands and some parts of Belgium. Considering you'll be fine in those countries with just English I fail to see point. For the sake of heritage? Good luck though, I heard it's quite difficult to learn for a foreigner. -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 17:46, 30 April 2011 (BST)

Moving things around

I see what you did there Unless it is scheduled stuff, you are expected to file it on A/MR and let a different op handle it (dual control and four eyes principle and all of that). At the very least, leave a note on A/MR for accountability. -- Spiderzed█ 11:23, 30 April 2011 (BST)

Ya, was going to leave a note right aftewrwards but my broswer is running really slowly and I wanted to finish what I was doing in another tab. P.S. why not on IRC? ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 11:47, 30 April 2011 (BST)

Pretty busy this week (as my contribs probably attest). Entering IRC would just tempt me to waste time and not get things done. Hopefully, from next week on my schedule gets a bit easier. -- Spiderzed█ 11:55, 30 April 2011 (BST)

Yes when it's normal gay maintenenace stuff like fixing userspace pages in mainspace it's cool, but please leave a request or note on A/MR in future :| -- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 16:31, 30 April 2011 (BST)

Sig

I has vandalized yours Off to Misconduct with me! -- Spiderzed█ 10:22, 1 May 2011 (BST)

Damn you withdrawing bastards breaking my links! ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 17:48, 1 May 2011 (BST)

Ryu

How dare you touch the song

of st

reet fighters?! This is simply unacceptable!!!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ryu (talk • contribs) 12:51, 1 May 2011.

Really?...

...I mean really? ~ _{20:51, 1 May 2011 (UTC)}

It won't break shit; it's subst'd in. █████████████ 20:53, 1 May 2011 (BST)

Breaking shit isn't really what I was referring to. I just didn't really expect to see you behind something like that. Just disappointed is all. ~ _{21:02, 1 May 2011 (UTC)}

Though it does appear there is some technical problem, still. ~ _{21:05, 1 May 2011 (UTC)}

Sweetheart the boys won't like you with all that sand in your vagina. Lighten up. --|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 21:06, 1 May 2011 (BST)

So, what, you're saying I shouldn't help users that contact me? And the problem's been fixed, wouldn't even be an issue if I'd been using it templated. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 21:07, 1 May 2011 (BST)

What's the point of it? Are you trying to point out that there is some glaring problem in the sig policy or do you still think the ops are targeting goons. Or is it just trolling? I'm kind of thinking it's the latter. ~ _{21:17, 1 May 2011 (UTC)}

If you're wondering why Rev is hanging with the goons, look at this page.--Yonnua Koponen ^{T G P} ^^^ 21:19, 1 May 2011 (BST)

Something needs closing. My words never glowed pink before. --Rosslessness 21:21, 1 May 2011 (BST)

It must be your godly powers.--Yonnua Koponen ^{T G P} ^^^ 21:22, 1 May 2011 (BST)

Your inner fabulousity is shining through! Embrace it! --|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 21:23, 1 May 2011 (BST)

As if I needed to gay this shit up any further. --Rosslessness 21:26, 1 May 2011 (BST)

Maybe we just like the fact he's not an absolute douche and knows how to have fun? Food for thought. --|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 21:23, 1 May 2011 (BST)

No, I knew Rev was a goon, I just thought he was one of those upper class goons. Silly me. ~ _{21:25, 1 May 2011 (UTC)}

You fucking classist bastard, I hope you get strung from a lamppost when the revolution comes. --|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 21:27, 1 May 2011 (BST)

"The fully realized man does not identify with the local group."--

| T | BALLS! | 21:30 1 May 2011(UTC)

Revolution. Riiiiight. Who's taking things too seriously now. ~ _{21:41, 1 May 2011 (UTC)}

Still you, fucknuts. --|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 21:42, 1 May 2011 (BST)

It's you. You are. Because at the end of the day, for us this is just a terrible wiki for a silly text based browser game that we happen to be stomping all over. For you, this is your world. And for Raul Julia, it's Tuesday. Or it would be if he were still alive. Which he isn't. And that's a shame because he was an incredible overactor. --|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 21:54, 1 May 2011 (BST)

You'll have to ask them; I'm just helping, here. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 21:55, 1 May 2011 (BST)

Vapor: This morning I went for a walk

Wearing: a pair of gold-rimmed glasses, a battered black felt trilby, a grey scarf, a white shirt, a black designer blazer, a black lined jacket, black silk-lined leather gloves, blue jeans and battered black work boots.

 Based on this, tell me if you can what class I am. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 01:45, 2 May 2011 (BST)

Class Clown? ~ _{02:23, 2 May 2011 (UTC)}

An upperclassman, though. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 02:47, 2 May 2011 (BST)

This pretty much one the stupidest things I have seen in a while. This is pretty much vandalism and the template should be deleted. -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 22:13, 1 May 2011 (BST)

Make the VB case then.--Yonnua Koponen ^{T G P} ^^^ 22:17, 1 May 2011 (BST)

So you don't actually read what you write? Because you're a really fucking stupid person who somehow got into a position you have no fucking clue how to perform. In fact, you're the personification of what's wrong with the wiki. --|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 22:28, 1 May 2011 (BST) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Laughing Man (talk • contribs) 22:28, 1 may 2011 (BST).

Goddamnit

Stop fucking edit conflicting me on my own talk page. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 21:55, 1 May 2011 (BST)

NEVER! --|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 08:59, 2 May 2011 (BST)

leave my fucking boobies out of it!

i've had this image in my sig for years!--    bitch  12:25, 2 May 2011 (utc)

You were a safe example, man! The boobs are and were in no danger. Do you really think I would threaten such a work of art that brightens up everyone's day? ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 12:31, 2 May 2011 (BST)

Template:Nosubst

Just thought I'd clarify my beliefs here in the hope that we don't have to keep going back-and-forth on the admin pages. Basically, templated signatures are allowed and have been for years because they cleanup code and allow signature changes to be retroactive.
Yes, {{Nosubst}} is hack to get around the software but it's a hack which is easier than trying to get Kevan to change the wiki settings and it doesn't particularly break anything.
If we want to ban templated signatures on the wiki, then I believe we should go about it like this:

1. Make a policy on signature length - to prevent the clutter of massive substituted sigs.
2. Make a policy banning the use of templated signatures.
3. Delete {{Nosubst}} after 1) and 2) have been done.

The reasoning: Templated sigs prevent massive quantities of clutter in the page code. The reason that other Wikis can do without them so effectively is that they limit signature length. If we want to do without templated signatures then that should really include a requirement for shorter signatures.

If you just want to get rid of the ugly hack that is {{Nosubst}} then I would suggest we should:

1. Persuade Kevan to add $wgCleanSignatures = false; to the settings file.
2. Delete the template after Kevan has made the change.

--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 13:22, 2 May 2011 (BST)

Ah, right. Well, we effectively have a limit on normal signature length now with the new wiki software version (255 chars, I believe), and a lot of users have already made the switch so as to reduce the load on various high-use pages. Passing a signature amendment policy is probably a better way to go about it, yeah; I was unaware that the original status quo permitted un-SUBST'd templated sigs. (History doesn't go back that far in most cases.) ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 13:36, 2 May 2011 (BST)

Yes, but people can still use templates to get around it. Given that {{Goonsig}} takes up about 9 lines of code then I would suggest that we need a policy in order to actually enforce it. Yes, lots of wiki history is lost by the fact that the history archives are purged, which sometimes makes it difficult to determine why a lot of stuff is done the way it is.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 13:50, 2 May 2011 (BST)

Here's a thought…

“	What wouldn't be allowed Signatures which generally break the wiki in some way either through formatting or other means.	”
—

Other means, like bypassing an inbuilt software restriction? ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 13:44, 2 May 2011 (BST)

Only problem is that templated sigs don't actually break the wiki.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 13:50, 2 May 2011 (BST)

Actually, on many occasions they do, they constantly break inclusion limits and they're the only vehicle for signatures that can actually crash pages. There's not really anything good that comes from them, the code spam being prevented has a downside, it's that the limits on code length put in place to prevent stuff like Jedaz's evil text are removed.--Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 13:54, 2 May 2011 (BST)

It doesn't happen that often because most pages are archived off before we get to the limit. As for code spam, I'm pretty sure that the template inclusion limits prevent Jedaz's evil text from working anymore?--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 14:15, 2 May 2011 (BST)

Actually I had to go on a template reduction spree because half the sysops were using templated sigs and breaking the required functionality templates on pages like A/VB. It happens frequently enough that if templated sigs were done away with it would have a noticeable effect on the administration pages at the very least. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 14:09, 2 May 2011 (BST)

Generally no because standard templates do that too, practically yes though. One user tried to use a templated sig to crash pages on load iirc because they allow basically unlimited size inclusions(to a point) they can easily be abused to break shit. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 13:54, 2 May 2011 (BST)

It should be noted that that problem has since been fixed.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 14:01, 2 May 2011 (BST)

Not so much, just now it takes images I'm pretty sure. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 14:09, 2 May 2011 (BST)

Also, another note: just deleting the page doesn't solve the problem because there's nothing to stop someone just recreating it in their userspace. I'm actually currently considering writing some code so that my sig is substituted in on some pages and not on others...--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 14:01, 2 May 2011 (BST)

If anyone has any hints on how to do this without using parserfunctions then it would be much appreciated.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 14:13, 2 May 2011 (BST)

{{if equal}} should help but, I think you'd have to use the if template in your user preferences and would likely hit the 255 character limit. You'll want to play around with magic words that determine the namespace. UDWiki is namespace 4. The "ns" magic word you'd use is {{ns:4}} which produces UDWiki. That's probably a pretty good starting point. Basically a if statement that uses one sig if on ns4 and another sig if otherwise. It would be best I think if both sigs have their own template. ~ _{17:52, 2 May 2011 (UTC)}

I think I've got something that works, using {{Switch}}. Code is located here: User:The General/sig/switch. I found that using the "if" statements resulting in the if templates themselves being substituted onto pages--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 18:16, 2 May 2011 (BST)

Testing. ~ 18:10, 2 May 2011 (BST)

Well that sort of works but the {{if equal}} template would need to be NOSUBST'd I think. ~ 18:12, 2 May 2011 (BST)

I tried using NOSUBST on the if equal template in my preferences and I hit the character limit. Maybe it can be trimmed down to work but in theory {{SUBST:NOSUBST|if equal|{{SUBST:ns:4}}|UDWiki|{{subst:User:Vapor/sig}}|{{SUBST:NOSUBST|{{SUBST:User:Vapor/sig}}}}}} should work. ~ _{18:24, 2 May 2011 (UTC)}

do something helpfull for once :P

fix the image size in this template i made {{Kinsh}} --    bitch  22:36, 3 May 2011 (utc)

What's the problem? Looks fine to me. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 23:22, 3 May 2011 (BST)

While you're there, I think there's either a typo in the text of the template, or the template name.--Yonnua Koponen ^{T G P} ^^^ 23:24, 3 May 2011 (BST)

Good catch. Fixed. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 23:51, 3 May 2011 (BST)

spelling and grammars is not my strong point.--    bitch  02:21, 4 May 2011 (utc)

go team friday night in syd

I won double tix to go team in sydney strike bar this Friday, all friends are working. Keen? -- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 01:48, 4 May 2011 (BST)

Not sure I can afford the travel; just had to get one bike fixed, and the other's being worked on at the moment. Although maybe I could ride… Hmm. Will think about it.
Also why haven't you added me on FB yet, you snob! ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 01:54, 4 May 2011 (BST)

so picturing the two of you like this --    bitch  02:27, 4 May 2011 (utc)

where did you get that —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Revenant (talk • contribs) 02:31, 4 May 2011 (BST).

I googled Bike Riding Australian fags. bingo!--    bitch  02:35, 4 May 2011 (utc)

WOW looking like that we'd fit in with the go team for sure! -- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 04:16, 4 May 2011 (BST)

Any other wiki stalkers interested in going? Grim, Boxy, lookin at you. -- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 04:17, 4 May 2011 (BST)

If it's not classical or comedy I don't see Grim even so much as listening to it, let alone leaving his hermit cave and cavorting with other human beings in meatspace. Dunno about The Box.
Pretty sure I can make it if I want to, just want to fit in as much as possible that I wanted to get done up there if I'm going. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 05:00, 4 May 2011 (BST)

Sorry, mate; checked my schedule and I'm flat booked-out this weekend. Definitely email The Box and see if he's keen, and FWIW I am sorry I can't make it this time. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 06:00, 5 May 2011 (BST)

Partyin' partyin' yeah!?--Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 13:34, 5 May 2011 (BST)

On voting for you

I hope you don't mind my reasoning. --Visible One 07:06, 4 May 2011 (BST)

It would seem you've covered all bases! ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 07:23, 4 May 2011 (BST)

Deleting Protections

What exactly were you doing there? Removing the link to Iscariot's blog and first name that you provided? How come all of a sudden? -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 18:43, 4 May 2011 (BST)

I hope you know how to read logs. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 18:48, 4 May 2011 (BST)

Typo

Thanks. I put the c first, but it didn't look right, and I'm downstairs on IE, so I don't have spellcheck.--Yonnua Koponen ^{T G P} ^^^ 21:57, 4 May 2011 (BST)

Welcome! ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 22:09, 4 May 2011 (BST)

Wow

Voting for yourself on BP? Really thinks its going to be that close? Anyway, Im going to be sans l'ordinator for the 36 hours after generals promotion bid comes to fruition, and as our probable next corrupt overlord, I thought Id give you the heads up now. Cheers. --Rosslessness 10:42, 5 May 2011 (BST)

I prefer to lead by example – also, first in, best dressed!
I also coined a catchy slogan and made a handy "how-to-vote" section, in case people needed a hand. To quote Fighter, “I'm a helper!” ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 11:48, 5 May 2011 (BST)

signature

hey bro. Just a heads up that Template:Goonsig contains an image that doesn't comply with the WIKI LAW sig policy because that image is over 50kb.

I'm not sure if you use the image (I'm quite sure I've seen you sign with it occasionally but again I could be wrong) but as the sort of... 'brainchild' or organiser behind the goonsig, I'm giving you a heads up anyway. I've notified those who are using it too as per sig policy. Those who use the signature have a week to change it, I'll let the users of the signature sort it out with you I guess? -- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 12:14, 7 May 2011 (BST)

Except that it clearly says "555Manbabies.gif‎ (image/gif, 45 KB, looped, 20 frames, 0.4s)". On the image page. I dunno where you got over 50kb from, so am i missing something here, or have you made a mistake DDR? Serious Post. Please do not silly. |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 01:07, 8 May 2011 (BST)

Katthew fixed it very quickly and efficiently, so it's no longer an issue DW, everything is good now. -- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 01:47, 8 May 2011 (BST)

Excellent. And yeah, I signed with it a few times when I was testing it. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 01:54, 8 May 2011 (BST)

Iscariot

“	I think you're barking up the wrong histories, when I left I don't remember asking for Ross et al to delete my user page, although it may have escaped my memory. What I did want deleting was User: Iscariot/Signature, which was done and then stupidly overridden by certain people trying to take a shot at me after I'd left.	”
—. <== DDR Approved Editor

Saving this here for archival reasons. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 11:14, 9 May 2011 (BST)

Just so you know...

...we don't delete pages we put on SD ourselves:

“	In the event of a sysop requesting Speedy Deletion, all the previous points will apply, excepting that a system operator other than the requester shall review and take action on the request.	”
—Speedy Deletions Intro

It be against teh roolz. -- Cheese 12:12, 9 May 2011 (BST)

Replied on Cheese's talk page.

WP:DRUNKEDIT

In Europe, alcolocks for cars are currently discussed. Not sure about the cars, but I'd strongly support alcolocks for computers As for Mehsconduct, I emphasized the Meh for a reason. The team is clearly split and undecided about the issue of off-site requests, so even if some tard actually brings up a case, you'd be extremely unlucky to receive as much as a confused soft warning. -- Spiderzed█ 13:30, 9 May 2011 (BST)

One reason I was so insistent is that he actually knows British law and I'd prefer to avoid Kevan/us having to deal with a(nother) real copyright case. Not that there'd be anything to dispute, a C+D would just about do it.
Also, why are the terminally sober so prejudiced against other states of consciousness? The Curse of Greyface, that's why! ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 13:35, 9 May 2011 (BST)

Yeah, uhm, not really worried about someone suing ud for him posting stuff. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 22:33, 9 May 2011 (BST)

Actually

You reminded me. There's a better way. Just <Noinclude> older bot reports. That was they don't include on the inclusion of the section beyond as the words for the template call. If you subst: them then if we were to do that it would actually add to the filesize on the final inclusion. Saves more space AND allows us to keep the full list. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 01:25, 10 May 2011 (BST)

Good call! Not sure we need to keep it, though, since it's all in the deletion log. Unless we want it for Spambit Hunters or something? ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 01:27, 10 May 2011 (BST)

I'd rather have it as something permanently linkable for standard users on A/M cases tbh. It's just easier to reference. If we do this I may consider adding anchors to the template for ease. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 01:42, 10 May 2011 (BST)

I've been meaning to add anchors to a lot of these templates. We still need to overhaul the CSS, too… ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 02:11, 10 May 2011 (BST)

Hmm, I guess we can. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 02:32, 10 May 2011 (BST)