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Aichon

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Announcement: I'm no longer active. My talk page is still your best bet to get in touch. —Aichon— 04:39, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Please be aware of the following guidelines before posting here.

• New conversations should be started at the bottom using a level two header (e.g. ==Header==).
• I like to keep conversations wherever they start, but if a conversation ends up here, I will keep it here.
• I will format comments for stylistic reasons, delete comments for whatever reason, and generally do anything else within reason.

Thanks. —Aichon—

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chud

If it helps, here's a list of the other enabled scripts I'm using (in the order I have placed them. chud comes directly after UD Zero Out Buttons, by the way)...:

• UD Travel
• ActOnProfile
• UD A-GPS Coordinates
• UD Survivor Aggregator
• UD Item Combiner, Organizer, and Sorter
• UDMap
• UD Quicklinks
• UD Zero Out Buttons
• Mass COntacts
• UD Same Character Highlighter
• Show recovery time for AP in Urban Dead
• UD Radio Accelerator
• Profile Viewer
• DSS Satellite Phone

--•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 19:18, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll look into it on my copy of FF and see if I can come up with an idea of what's up. I don't really check most of my releases in FF, since 99% of the stuff just works in it as well as Safari, but it's possible it's something I miscoded for FF or else something interacting oddly with those scripts. —Aichon— 19:45, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Hey, Aichon. I just noticed something. [1] Take a look at the inventory. Now look through the drop-down list for dropping items. It says I have a Toolbox, but it doesn't show up in my inventory. If I disable the Item Combiner of yours, the toolbox will appear, like seen here: [2]. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 00:24, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I have that script and I do believe it hides certain buttons like spray can and flak jacket. Stuff that wastesAP if clicked on fron your inventory. That's probably it but Aichon could tell you for sure. ~ 00:38, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Yep, Vapor got it. It hides a few buttons that simply waste AP if clicked. It doesn't even get them all honestly, since I was lazy with implementing it, but I was just tired of having these buttons that didn't do anything and took up AP if you mis-clicked. —Aichon— 02:35, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Could really use some help....

I'm really confused on the if then templates, and was hoping you could help me. I'm looking to use the templates to create a chunk of code that would work similarly to the random page feature, but for items underneath my user namespace. Is it possable to do with the if then templates? -Estacado^Talk 23:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

You have run out of Aichon Points
Aichon Points regenerate at the rate of 1 per non-douchebag move. Please come back tomorrow or when you've proven you aren't a douche.

~ 00:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Is that right?
Well, you know what I heard? PISS OFF, that’s what I heard!

-Estacado^Talk 00:48, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I lol'd. I usually call my arbitrary point system just "bonus points", but I might have to nick that from you since it's clever and obvious. —Aichon— 02:39, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm having trouble understanding exactly what you're asking for (I blame it on the lack of sleep and illness...a few hours ago, I was speaking gibberish since I was so tired apparently). Anyway, if what you're trying to do is have a random page/template appear as a chunk of another page in your userspace, you might want to take a look at what Mis has done with his main user page. You can't actually do random, but you can have it vary by date and time. If you can explain to me, in detail, what a working concept would look like to the end user, I can probably give you better instructions for how to do it. —Aichon— 02:39, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Basically, Special:Random, but for my namespace.... ie,.... click the link, and you go to a random subpage of mine. -Estacado^Talk 03:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

No. You can create a link that will appear random, but not a truly random one. You'd need to nest two Switches together, probably CURRENTHOUR and CURRENTMINUTE, although just the latter would probably work on its own. Then list the outcomes for each possibility, badda bing. 03:11, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Yep, Mis is right. Basically, you don't need the if templates at all, and should instead look into the switch one. With this version of the wiki software, there's no way to do truly random stuff like that, but Mis' answer is the best one we have. —Aichon— 03:21, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Cool,...? -Estacado^Talk 03:29, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Possable.,,,! -- LEMON #1 03:36, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

could really use some help,,,,,,,,,,,,.............

I'm really confused on being a decent user, and was hoping you could help me. I'm looking to use the wiki to create helpful information that would work similarly to a normal website, but just for urban dead. Is it possable to do without being a shitcunt? -- LEMON #1 02:14, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

PS I'll spam you for every minute you don't respond. Then when someone tells me not to I'll relentlessly recite lines from Diana from Paul Anka. -- LEMON #1 02:15, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but I have a "no newb" policy on this page, and since you're trying to be polite, it's obvious you have no idea what you're doing around here. Unless you cause a scene right now, you're going to have to leave. I'm taking you to rabies, VD, and Miscondick anyway though. I have principles, after all. —Aichon— 02:44, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Image:I TROL U.jpg

-Estacado^Talk 03:15, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Oh, but that was really f'ing funny! -Estacado^Talk 03:25, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

It wasn't, which is why you're such a pathetic person to watch. Every second you spend on here you think you're hilarious, when you're just projecting a 5 year old making a penis in the sand and laughing hysterically at it. -- LEMON #1 03:27, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Better to be someone ignorant enough to not know any better, than someone smart enough to, and care less. At least I don't instigate. -Estacado^Talk 03:31, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

That for real? 03:33, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Haha yeah fuck off. And of course you don't instigate. -- LEMON #1 03:35, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Oh you're just pissed I can do shit like that, and get away with it. -Estacado^Talk 03:38, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I can't speak for him, but I'm annoyed, not because you get away with it, but because you do it at all. —Aichon— 03:42, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm bound to try it again too... shit like this inspired me the first time... -Estacado^Talk 03:45, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

It was okay. I've never been a big fan of image-based humor, however. There are some that are good, of course, but by and large, I feel that it's overused. —Aichon— 04:17, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

You know what... DDR wins... he's always screwing with me... So.. I'll pull an iscariot and just leave... -Estacado^Talk 03:46, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

You'll never have that man's class. 03:47, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Do it if you want, if the only two options for you are a) be a pest or b) leave the wiki, I'd much rather you leave. This time, I'll be left without regret. -- LEMON #1 04:18, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Humourous suggestions

I was going through the history of our latest n00b's talk page, and noticed that you said that the humourous suggestions edits where in archives, and shouldn't be changed. AFAIK, they may be archived, but are left open for comments/mock votes regardless. After all, it is humourous, and voting is never tallied up and closed -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 09:21 20 December 2010 (BST)

Yeah, I realized that quite a bit after the fact, and you're 100% correct. I had thought the archives weren't supposed to be edited, but yesterday or the day before when I was reviewing his edits, I realized I had made a mistake in saying that when I noticed some text somewhere saying that it was permissible to edit them. Humorous Suggestions have never been a part of the wiki that I've been especially familiar with, since I don't follow them or their proceedings, so I had assumed that they functioned somewhat similarly to the main suggestion system, where once they are done, they're done. I was going to re-review his edits at some point and see if I needed to restore them, but hadn't gotten around to it yet. —Aichon— 18:16, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

No worries. Humourous suggestions is a quiet backwater of the wiki, with no real rules, just common sense, where people just fix things up the way they want without any drama. Doesn't get much press ;) -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 23:15 20 December 2010 (BST)

Hmph

You know, I never thought you were a Knight, although in hindsight it should have really clicked a lot earlier. If not simply for the educated method of posting, then definitely for the white mask and notches in your gun. --Ash  ^{|  T  |  яя  |} 13:52, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Well, since I play all sorts of different characters, it's not surprising that people don't realize I have ones in certain groups or playing certain ways. And unless the Knights come up around here, my affiliation with them usually goes unmentioned. Besides, having secretive members is part of who we are. —Aichon— 19:58, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

I have a knack for telling which Knight is which. You may proclaim to be secretive, but I know you all like to personalize the insides of your mask. DT draws ponies on his.

Happy hunting! --Ash  ^{|  T  |  яя  |} 18:20, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

My bad

There was no bad intention in messing with your vote, just... poor judgement. My bad, please don't take it as assholery. ~m ^T! 03:45, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

I didn't take it that way at all. I just wanted to make clear that it's not something that I wanted done to my comment and that it wasn't necessary in this case. In other places it may be necessary, but not here, thankfully. —Aichon— 06:24, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

A'ight, then. You know, we all have our fits of dumbness and assholery and all this shit from time to time, I was just making sure. ~m ^T! 19:50, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

No!!!!!!!

-MHSstaff 03:41, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Lol. Like I said in the edit summary when I posted that, I'll likely be around for a few more weeks, but I didn't want to take anyone by surprise, so I'm posting it now. —Aichon— 05:33, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

You'll be sorely missed around here when you go, Aichon. I like the way you're stepping out, though. Like you're weening us all off slowly. Good luck with the degree and all and be sure to poke your head in from time-to-time and check in on us. From one Texan to another, farewell. ~ 05:56, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

I like to ease out of places most of the time since there are less questions. Plus, I don't have anything else at the moment to fill in the time I've been spending here, so that'll likely keep me coming back for a bit. If you ever find yourself in College Station, let me know so I can treat you to lunch/dinner. And who knows where I'll end up come this summer? —Aichon— 06:10, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

I have a cousin graduating at A&M this summer so I might be able to take you up on that if you'll be there. ~ 06:25, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Well, if things go well, I'm afraid I won't be here, but we'll see. —Aichon— 07:08, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

A sad day indeed. -- Spiderzed▋ 13:49, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry, nobody ever leaves the wiki. Just ask me. Linkthewindow  Talk  06:50, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, same thing happens to old message boards I left years ago. I'm sure I'll be around. ;) —Aichon— 07:08, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

another post I note, I know you couldn't leave whilst people continue to make random statements on the wiki! --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 18:43, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Almost sounds like you're trying to get rid of me. :P Anyway, I said I'd be around for another few weeks, and I meant it. While my contribs may have dropped off, I'm still lurking almost as much as ever. —Aichon— 18:48, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Not at all, a lurking Aichon is better than users who post on everything regardless, and the feedback from ex sops is really appreciated on the various promotion bids. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 18:56, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

How bad would a

single 54-case switch be as far as tree-hugging, terrorist-supporting wiki page magic inclusion things be? Would it kill the FA page?-MHSstaff 23:11, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

It'd actually be a 108 case switch statements (54 for current and 54 for previous), and it wouldn't be that bad. Each case would basically just have the unique portion of the link to each FA blurb, which would likely just be a few characters long, and anything that was common to the link could be put before or after the switch in the template so that it didn't have to get repeated 108 times. Shouldn't even be close to page-breaking if done right, but I'd suggest sandboxing it first to make sure anyway. —Aichon— 05:23, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Here is what I am thinking. A master switch template that calls one of 54 pre-generated templates based on the number of FA articles we have. Those templates then get the correct FA article based on the current week. I basically have a program that spits out the wiki code so its just a matter of copying and pasting. Here is the 17-article version for example, and here is a 43 article version. Here is sorta what the main template would like, and here is where I am calling it. This way, you wouldn't have to update as you voted in new articles. You just change the number of articles (nofa) variable in the page calling main driver template, make a new FA blurb page, and the main template picks the right one for cycling. What changes should be made? I can update the code to spit out the version with your suggestions but there is no point in copying and pasting it until we have something we all like. -MHSstaff 19:16, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Otherwise, you would have to edit the cases in the template each time you add in articles so the new ones will get called during their week, which would kinda suck. -MHSstaff 19:33, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

This was pretty much exactly what I had in mind when I had some time to wrap my brain around it. The only change I would make is to have a page (or template) which contains the nofo variable. User then just creates a new blurb and updates the page with number of variables and wiki magic does the rest. ~ 19:43, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

I know exactly what you are saying, but I am not sure what that page would look like. Do you have an example?-MHSstaff 19:49, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

It would be a low content page. It's only content would be number of articles. That page is then transcluded on User:MHSstaff/Projects/TestingGrounds4 after the nofa variable. It would just save people from having to edit the main template which is doing the work. I guess it's not really necessary but might make things as simple for editors as it can possibly get. ~ 19:58, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Also, we wouldn't need 54 templates. Since there are already 18 articles, we could start there and go up to 54. Since only one of these templates would be in use at any given time, we'd need to have an ark to keep them off the scheduled deletion list. When a new article is added, the unnecessary template should be deleted.

I keep trying to think of a way of getting around creating 36 new templates but can't wrap my brain around it. ~ 20:26, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

It's easier to just mass create them at the beginning using a code, copy/paste, and store them in an ark IMO. Doing these by hand each time would be a pain. Plus with the prefix variable, it could be used for other things so there is really no penalty to having them already made-MHSstaff 20:33, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

No need to ark them, since they shouldn't be speedy deleted. They all have a purpose after all, and unlike images, which get deleted if they go unused, articles do not automatically get deleted. Anyway, I like the general idea, but having to have multiple different templates (e.g. 17, 43, x) seems like a lot of work.

Honestly, all of our solutions will work out worse than what we currently have, in my opinion, since all of them will end up repeating some articles before they are supposed to be repeated (e.g. we may end the year on FA8 and will then start the new year over again, losing FA9+ for a cycle), and will involve having to edit multiple pages when adding new FA. What we have now works, and it's even easier now that we've gone through the whole FA list, since all you have to do is cut/paste the last blurb up to the top of the FA page and then move the old ones down a notch. Why don't we just focus on making that process easier, rather than trying to automate the whole shebang? —Aichon— 20:40, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

For me, it is going to be used to rotate MHS content every week or so. But if you want to keep on truckin' with a)creating a new FA schedule everytime a new FA is added, actually having users remember to stick by that schedule, and copy/pasting blurbs every two weeks, that's cool too. If the current system is working, we're probably best off not worring about it then.-MHSstaff 21:10, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

You shall be incredibly proud

Got Chrome. :D --Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 08:09, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Sweet! It'll take some getting used to, but you should notice the speed it has going for it, as well as the fact that it just does some things most of the others don't (e.g. it actually displays my name correctly at the top of this page, whereas none of the others besides Safari does that).—Aichon— 15:17, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Yep. I've installed it on my new laptop, and I'm trying to slowly make myself use it on here instead of IE. --Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 15:47, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Your signature is awesome, btw.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 16:40, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Don't I know it! A shame that more people can't see it as it's meant to be seen. It's best if you have the Cochin font installed too. —Aichon— 17:07, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

What is happening with the signature? Is it going woop! woop! and flashing and stuff?--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 11:44, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Much more subtle than that. Get a real browser and you can see the difference. ;) —Aichon— 11:45, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

BASEPAGENAME

Hey, I thought you'd be a pretty good person to ask. I'm wondering why {{BASEPAGENAME}} doesn't really seem to work on some pages. For example, if the magic word is placed on Fight Factory/Nav, it returns Fight Factory/Nav instead of Fight Factory like I would expect. The help section mentions that {{BASEPAGENAME}} only works on namespaces that have subpages enabled. It leads me to believe that pages in the main space do not have subpages enabled. Do you think that's the case? My eventual goal is to create some subcategories of some inclusion only pages that I use for groups I'm involved in and I'd like the group name to be the subcategory name. Hope that makes since. See here for one of my attempts [3]. ~ 06:47, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't believe subpages are enabled in the main namespace, which basically means that, technically, X/Y is a page named "X/Y" rather than a page Y that is a subpage of X. You can tell because if you go to something like User:Aichon/Other, Other will have a link near the top that will take you back to User:Aichon, whereas similar behavior doesn't happen in the main namespace.

Anyway, since I'm beyond tired after researching companies for a career fair today, I'll just point you in a few directions. One is that you might look at [[Category:CAT_NAME|GROUP_NAME]] to do stuff. Not sure if it helps. The other is Template:Subcat, which you can see in use here. It may be useful. I'll let you poke through those and see what works, but it should still be doable, though you'll likely not be able to use the magic words. You might also ping DDR or Rooster, since they both have significantly more categorization wiki-fu than I do. I always left that stuff alone since it was messy and hard to see. —Aichon— 11:57, 25 January 2011 (UTC)