Talk:Spartans

A warm welcome from a Philosophe Knight

Pericles, Act II, Scene II

THAISA: Enter a Knight; he passes over, and his Squire presents his shield to the Princess.

SIMONIDES: Who is the first that doth prefer himself?

THAISA: A Knight of Sparta, my renowned father. And the device he bears upon his shield is a black Ethiope reaching at the sun. The word, 'Lux tua vita mihi.'

SIMONIDES: He loves you well that holds his life of you and what, are you merry, Knights?

KNIGHTS: Who can be other in this royal presence?

SIMONIDES: Here, with a cup that's stored unto the brim....as you do love, fill to your mistress' lips....we drink this health to you.

KNIGHTS: We thank your grace.

*Ok, so it's a little out of context but it's the only Shakespearean quote that I could remember from college that pertained to Sparta. I'm sure there's more but they escape me at the moment.

--Sir WV 12:49, 7 October 2007 (BST)

Hello Sir WV. Would this be a greeting from the Philosophe Knights? If Noc II is still around tell him I send my regards. I am an old friend.--Toothdecay 15:55, 7 October 2007 (BST)

Aye, Lord N is still with the Knights. I speak for the Knights with my welcome but I will pass on your regards to N.--Sir WV 21:57, 7 October 2007 (BST)

I hope he is isn't bothered that I turned his idea of a survivor group into a PKer group. It has been a year though, things change as do people. --Toothdecay 17:49, 8 October 2007 (BST)

no, not at all, nice work Noc 03:45, 10 October 2007 (BST)

I know it is kind of a surprise that I turned PKer. After I maxed out as a survivor it got quote boring so I started helping M-BEK. Then before you know it, I became a full PKer. Well it was always my vision to have a Spartan group, I just never imagined it being a PKer one.--Toothdecay 20:15, 10 October 2007 (BST)

Cineraryone

You should tell the useless badboy13 that he should not get butchered 3 days in a row. It was fun killing him just east of giddings. He really needs to learn the ways of the PKer. By that, I mean do not stay in the same place ALL the time. I have him in my sights again, for a fourth kill on his useless sparta regiment. See you AGAIN badboy13, turned into whipping boy. Cineraryone 22:33, 17 May 2008 (BST)

Badboy went on a short vactation, he kept his character on and just put him in the mall for fun every time he died. Your victory = fail. If you want to fight with actual active members just stop by our forum. Oh, wait, you're too busy being a self righteous arse-hole. And some people wonder why I hate bounty hunters. --Toothdecay 01:20, 19 May 2008 (BST)

One more thing, stand up, you're dead son. --Toothdecay 03:44, 19 May 2008 (BST)

Well, do a little more research my friend. He griefed us some time ago, so it was satisfactory to kill him over and over again. But I will give him the benefit of the doubt if he is on vacation sort of speak. As far as you owning me on the wiki here, you fail. Try a little harder. See you soon. Speaking of seeing someone soon, see a dentist, they can help with that shit festering in your mouth. Kind of an oxymoron there too tooth decay as saying my victory=fail. See you soon. (by the way, it is just a game, so thanks for the fun) :) You have 2 up on me, congrats, but that will change soon. Congrats regardless. Enjoy it while it lasts. Would a self righteous asshole admit to that? I doubt it. And no, I am not a bounty hunter. i would join your forums, but meeting up with a group that can not come up with a more original name than the Spartans from a weak movie causes narcolepsy. Where are these so called persians you are fighting, hmmm? I also wish to not join your forums due to the fact that I do not want to hear all of you screaming "THIS IS SPARTA!!!" EVERY FIVE MINUTES. Off topic a bit, let's have fun with this. I have been bored in game so thanks for the attention to this battle. Oh yeah, one more thing, I am revived and up SON! You're my dad? who would have thunk it? Cineraryone 11:39, 22 May 2008 (BST)

To be honest we dont really ever Shout "This is Sparta!" on our forums. Usually in game so don't blame us for knowing how to really have fun ;)--Doctor Oberman 19:29, 22 May 2008 (BST)

Haha, oh man this is gonna be fun. First off, the Spartans were around before the movie came out. Secondly, what short bus do you ride? Do you really think that just because my name is toothdecay that I actually have toothdecay? That's sad. Thirdly, looks like you can't handle us yourself. Already calling for help on Brainstock? Oh and calling us zergers isn't going to help your case. Oh and make that three up. Yes you do fail. --Toothdecay 20:49, 22 May 2008 (BST)

Congratulationss, Spartans! In a prime display of your Spartan Law, a level three sleeping in a library safehouse was cut down in a glorious display of skill and bravery! The name of AegisTyra should be forever recorded in your records, the courageous level 21, boldly striding forth against the dreaded, deadly, two week player. Against all odds, he succeeded in his difficult quest of slaying the beast! Let the victory feast begin, for this is a truly momentous occasion. /sarcasm. Way to adhere to your own rulebook. Really, great job. EDIT: Wait, it seems that because I, the level three monster, am affiliated with the DEM as a reviver-in-training, I'm open season. That's not biased at all. --Thorgold 06:13, 18 July 2009 (BST)

Since Thorgold filled up my inbox with his baaaaaaawing, and got my attention editing that comment seven times, I figured I'd place it in order at least. Seems replies should follow below the last one here and I was bored. Excuse the intrusion my Spartan friends.--Panty 06:43, 18 July 2009 (BST)

Congratulations, Thorgold! By coming to our wiki talk and whining about being PKed for your group affiliation, your name shall forever go down here as that of someone unwilling to take the bad sides of being in the DEM with the usefulness of having a bunch of your own personal PKers, sorry, Bounty Hunters, to get revenge for those of you too heavily enslaved to Persian rule to raise a shotgun yourself. You are DEM, therefore, yes, as far as I'm concerned, you're open season. --AegisTyra8 August, 2009 (19:33 GMT)

Your forum!

Toothy, I think your forum is shot! --Hibernaculum 21:52, 5 July 2008 (BST)

I've had the same problem every once in a while. (This post is mainly to show off my attempt at making a sig) -- Prometheus the Titan_{Spartan Warrior} 05:42, 6 July 2008 (BST)

MCM neutral zone

I apologize for disturbing the King, but the following occurred in 31,71 on the neutral ground of Malton College of Medicine.

iwitness of a killing

While I am certain that the choice of targets was worthy, and the kill an honorable one, it was clearly within neutral space. I presume this was a misunderstanding on the part of the individual warrior, who no doubt was unaware of the significance of his location. All we ask is that the warrior be advised of the neutral zone, and that he not kill there again.

If this individual is not a Spartan but is instead an impostor, then I will happily leave the matter of his education in your capable hands.

MCM is honored by the recognition of the Spartans, and we do not intend to let one incident interfere with a budding and congenial relationship. Thank you for your time. --Violet Begonia _{Dean MCM MOB} 04:50, 29 August 2008 (BST)

Thank you for that bit of information, Violet.

We Spartans, respect your land after you showed us you fight honorably for it. I'm sure the aforementioned attack was done without knowledge of your respected space. I will show Desmond this for he is indeed a very honorable Spartan.

I have a question though, the neutral zone was broken by your people in cases of extreme necessity. What are the perquisites for us Spartans to break the neutral law? Can we kill an enemy that hides with you, knowing they will be safe? If we are allowed to break this, we may also be able to help you.

I know your group has come under attack from rouge PKers and the like. If we were in the area we could possibly speak to them about it and if they still persist on killing you and your students, we could get rid of them. All with your permission of course. I respect your wishes but there are ways we can still help each other out, without violating our morals and rules. --Toothdecay 04:06, 31 August 2008 (BST)

Thank you, toothdecay. Desmond's lecture was wonderful, and I am pleased that our two groups are on a more solidly peaceful footing. I tried to stop his killing this morning, and had him healed up from 4 to 49 HP, but the hourly lag caught me, unfortunately.

Managing a neutral zone in Malton is at times difficult, as I'm sure you are aware. There are individuals who abuse the neutral space concept. I don't like it. It shows a lack of respect for the principle underlying neutral space, and tests the patience of those who respect the concept. We have not found a good way to manage that particular problem yet, quite honestly, and are open to a civil public discussion about how to manage this problem.

I don't mind our more warlike supporters talking, (and only talking!) to a typical uninformed rogue PKer if necessity dictates, but most PKers get tired of killing us long before we get any more than exasperated with their foolishness, so killing is usually unnecessary. (It's why we edit out all speech in our PK reports - we try to be no fun whatsoever to kill.) I think beyond that it would probably be best if any communication was left at the polite conversation level. It has been my experience that killing PKers only encourages them to shoot back, as does whining about the killing.

Prerequisites for breaking the neutral law? We have a list of people that have shown no respect for our neutral space on our policies page, called the DNR/expelled list. These individuals are not protected by our no-kill policy since they themselves have shown flagrantly that they do not honor it. Honestly, you have to really try to get on the list. Most of these people are simply people we do not generally revive or heal.

Beyond the no heal, no revive level, we have a griefer impostor who has to be shot immediately when he sets foot on campus, Officer Sam Jackson. We also will not tolerate the presence of anyone on the Ignore List, especially Horny Horny Hippo, whose ignore-listable behavior occurred in MCM. There is one other person who may escalate to a level requiring that type of immediate action, but at this point I'm waiting to see what his next actions are. There are no people we kill on sight, only people whom we have to act against immediately in self-defense when they enter school grounds.

As far as groups are concerned, I hope to remove the Columbine Kids as soon as I'm assured the School Shootings Tour is over. Despite the official DNR and many dozens of killings by the CKs during that time, Gore Corper has been quite respectful of the peace since then and we are not interested in any harm coming to any of them. Team Zombie Hardcore has been a problem in the past, but they were so offensive and such a problem to so many people that we had to do nothing about them; they sowed discord, and reaped the whirlwind as a result all on their own. They remain on the DNR list permanently after the hippo incident, and as such are not now and never will be considered to be covered by the no-kill policy. We do not attack them, however, with the exception of the hippo if it is on MCM grounds, as its raping behavior warrants a different standard.

I do appreciate the offer to help us deal with our "problem people"; however, we have our own security force that we call upon in extreme cases inside MCM proper. It is usually quite clear when these circumstances arise; there are no secrets in a building with 80-110+ people on a regular basis, and most people know who is griefing us at any particular time.

Our "no retaliatory killing" policy may somewhat handicap us in dealing with griefers, but it gives us the freedom to do our work without wasting time and energy on anger.

I am available on beerhah IRC on a regular basis, although I am often interrupted due to family responsibilities. Feel free to contact me there, here on the wiki, or on brainstock, beerhah, or 10mfh forum. --Violet Begonia _{Dean MCM MOB} 20:39, 2 September 2008 (BST)

The speech wasn't that good, but thank you for your kind words. I'm also glad that everything was cleared up so easily. As for Cinerary, don't worry about him. He's griefed our members before, and he's just angry that Spartans took vengeance many many times. Thank you for trying to stop him, but I knew my sleeping in such a crowded hospital was asking for trouble. I'll be in the area, and if you need to contact me you can drop by here, and I'm also on the IRC frequently. Thanks. (Desmond) - Russell Oakley 08:00, 3 September 2008 (BST)

Player Killer Olympics

Thanks to the Spartans for agreeing to participate.

Also - I'd like one of your members to be part of the Player Killer Olympic Committee (PKOC or Peacock) - you'd be a vote to resolve any issues that come up. Also if you were so inclined, you could help verify submissions. This would not be required though, as I am sure I'll wind up doing most of that.

Let me know who it should be and thanks!! --Squid Boy 16:24, 1 September 2008 (BST)

Rhyme or Reason

Just wondering how you pick your targets. I was actually considering joining you until Leroy popped me. What'd I do?! --Pyrranha 17:44, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, some kill for glory, others out of bloodlust. Generally, if you are a member of the DEM or a bounty hunter you will be targeted. Others, including trenchoaters and mall rats are also high priority targets. Every member of the Spartans is a little different. I could ask Leroy why he killed you if you want me to. Don't let your death deter you from joining, however. I believe that you do not truly know someone until you kill them and are killed by them. Maybe you know us better now. Just a thought. --Toothdecay 04:14, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

That's strangely insightful. I would actually like to know if Leroy had a reason for killing me. I'm definitely not DEM or a bounty hunter, and I'm not a mall rat (though I was in a mall at the time of the shooting). I used to be trenchy before I joined the USAI but got over it. If I were to join, would it be necessary to join the forums? I usually can't commit myself to forums. --Pyrranha 02:23, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Just wanted to send a message to Leroy. He PK'd me (a legit kill) and I entered a story on the survivor diaries. In it, I said I would kill him. He misread this as my having said that I have already killed him. If you read the diary, it is quite clear (and I even wrote the story as one that I thought he'd appreciate and gave him credit for the kill) that I have made no claim of having killed him. He has since taken to calling me a liar. PK-ing is part of the ebb and flow of the game-such is life in Malton. To call me a liar, however, when I wrote no such thing is offensive (especially when I wrote the story specifically for him as a way of saying 'nice kill'). --Inspector Lee 12 November 2008

Alright, first, Pyrranha, I only targeted at random. And since you revived me, I put you on my ceasefire list in my contacts. Also, it was nothing meant for anger, it was just a random kill that I do. Although I do check for grouptags of DEM or allies before I kill. But Pyrranha, you are more than welcome to join the Spartans!

And Lee, I've looked it over, and I owe you an apology. It was just a misunderstanding, it will not happen again. I hope there is no more anger between us now. Also, I rarely ever use the wiki, other than for maps and the Profile DB, so if you wish to contact me, it's best to use our forums and drop me a PM. --Leroy Jankens 18:03, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, well, I'm interestd in joining the Spartans. If you want to continue this conversation, let's move it to my talk page. I don't get talked to enough. I would use your forums, but I need a username and password to log in, and I'm not sure I'm ready for that step yet. --Pyrranha 07:04, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

The Great Suburb Group Massacre, 2009

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I'm sorry if this seems like a stupid question, but it's for all groups regardless of size. Linkthewindow  Talk  00:55, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Aye. We are active. --Pyrranha 21:18, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!--Lois ^{talk 10MFH} 16:55, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Care to join us?

There are a few PKer groups in the burbs where Team Zombie Hardcore and Bandit Queens hide. I'd love to see a few Spartans join in the slaughter! Stop by the Mansion if you'd like details. -Ov 22 May 2009

Sparta in Real Life

The Spartans were a military dictatorship that had more slaves than citizens...not very free to me. Persia wrote the first human rights charter in the world. --Matthewbluewars ^{/New City\} 22:04, 26 August 2009 (BST)

Obvious troll is obvious. To prevent me from wasting anymore time, I'm just going to tell you to go look it up. Really, wikipedia man, it's really simple. Try to get your facts straight. --Toothdecay 23:54, 1 September 2009 (BST)

I'm Perisan, I've read up on Persian history, I've VISITED Persia, so I know my facts. BTW, read the Bible, Old Testamant, Books of Esther, Daniel, and Ezra. --Matthewbluewars ^{/New City\} 17:29, 12 September 2009 (BST)

*sighs* Welcome to the ranks of haters that just try to flamebait us. To correct your earlier statement, Sparta of old was *not* a dictatorship. It had two Kings, and a democraticesque government otherwise. Yes, it had slaves, the conquered Helots, of which there were in a constant military state ready to put down the frequent slave uprisings. Spartans stood for freedome *amongst Greeks*. While I respect your culture and history, Persian, I ask you put atleast a little work into insulting ours. --Gus Thomas^SpartaZHU 17:52, 15 September 2009 (BST)

A Most Generous Offer

Dear Lords of Sparta. It is I! Dhavid Grohl, the Voice of Whalberg, 2nd Disciple to the Awesome. Smoker of doobies and wailer of guitar. I come to you bearing greeting. I recently had an encounter with toothdecay and Desmond, your fearless leaders, and let it be said that they are cool. And that I agree that the DEM is full of suck, and should be destroyed.

That said, TZH doesn't like the Spartans, as we have had conflict. But I would like to let you know that we are coming to fight the douchy text rapists at the Garniss Bldg. We will also kill you, and any PK's we find, but only after the TR's are nowhere to be found (them first).

But, I would like to extend a special circumstance to the Spartans. We are willing to offer you a deal slightly different from our standard provisions for peace. Usually, people have to apologize and swear not to kill/harm TZH again. And while that would still be appreciated, I thought maybe a better deal would be in order.

Since you guys have Aegis Tyra in your group, and since he is a whiny butthurt wiki-vandal bitch, we figured that booting his worthless vagina out of your group, and promising never to harm TZH again, that maybe that would work for us. We would consider his swift expulsion and subsequent insulting and laughter from the remaining Spartans to be apology enough.

Or don't, we don't care. Aegis is fun to kill, and even more fun to stomp face against here on the wiki. Long live TZH! Down with the DEM! BALLS TO THE WHALLS!!! --Dhavid Grohl 19:50, 11 September 2009 (BST)

Most generous, you say? Perhaps we need to remind you of Lykurgan law, Grohl. Every Spartan stands with his brothers, to the death. Oh, and I don't see editing your MOST SUCK PAGE to a MOST WIN PAGE is vandalism - the truth can't be vandalism, can it, and that page seems to only contain people who've kicked your arse, or who you just zerg-griefed out of the game, then made some crap up about to justify your actions. Now get you gone, ere I decide to turn my spear south. --AegisTyra

Dhavid Ghrol, thank you for your 'generous' offer. I am afraid at this time, we decline. Even if your group was of significant threat to us, surely you understand we do not run from a fight, do not give up, and stand by our Brothers to the death. While we do not seek TZH blood at this time, may your god Whalberg protect you if we do, for our spears are sharp and our soldiers keen for the fight. --Gus Thomas^SpartaZHU 17:57, 15 September 2009 (BST)

Surely Spartan you have the eyes to see that we are not saying that you should bow before the true Lhord, or even run. But we say that you should lay down arms forever against the enemy of your enemy, and perhaps make them your friend. A common foe in "the Persians" and the DEM we have. Of course, the Spartans and their false deities and ways have lost sight of the greatest enemy, the most profound agent of "The Suck" that is the Rogue's Gallery. But we have come not to expect true awesomeness from those who wear loin cloths and funny hats upon which is the hair from a horses ass. We have come to expect the likes of this: [Aegis"jablowme"Tyra]. Tell me, you take pride in standing by a wiki vandal, and a butthurt whiner? Is that how the Spartans would be remembered? It is your choice, free to make. And if you chose poorly, may our battle be totally beatass and awesome. --Dhavid Grohl 03:04, 16 September 2009 (BST)

You've had your answer. Begone. The rest of my brothers may not be willing to waste bullets on you, but I can always use target practice - and lord knows there are enough TZH zergs running around for me to pick off... --AegisTyra

Whats the rush Aegis? Afraid that maybe there are some of your compatriots who might not be so ignorant of your "antics" who will read this offer and think better of it? I would think that a real Spartan would love a challenge to his reputation alike to this one. And interesting isn't it, that while they may not be booting out out as they should, you talk a lot about your brothers standing by you. So far I see you standing against TZH alone. Even Desmond and TDecay let me live. ME, not just any TZHer, but big bad Grohl himself. The Voice of Whalberg left unsilenced by YOUR superiors. Where are they Aegis, these brothers of yours? And if they won't help you, how long do you think it will be before they decide they have heard enough of your butthurt whining. You know, like the rest of the UD community has. I'll refer you to the deletions page. BURN. BALLS TO THE WHALLS!--Dhavid Grohl 19:39, 16 September 2009 (BST)

I don't waste bullets on inferior targets. Sorry Grohl.--Toothdecay 02:05, 18 September 2009 (BST)

Ghrol, a beautiful death is amongst the highest honor I can give a enemy. You have yet to give me a reason to give you such honor and "silence" the Voice of Whalberg. At best, if I happen upon you in my travels I *may* take the time to dance with you. But I will not change my march and abandon other targets. --Gus Thomas^SpartaZHU 22:48, 18 September 2009 (BST)

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GSGM 2010

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Annual group census time again! --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 18:45, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

the Spartans are indeed active, though maybe not so much as some suburb pages would suggest. Where can we work out the details? --Magnar 09:33, 14 February 2010 (UTC)