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The Great Suburb Group Massacre 2010?

What do you say? It's been almost a year since the last one, and although we still have a few weeks left in 2009, I don't see why we can't get it done by the end of the year. Think of it as a wiki-wide resolution. Is anyone in favor of another activity check starting within the next week or so?--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 05:39, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

I don't think it so necessary just now, but I'd help out. -- 05:53, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
I had talked briefly with Rooster about this and felt that maybe the 2nd week of January would be better since people are likely not to be checking the wiki regularly (if at all) right now due to the holidays and finals and all that jazz. But yes, it is overdue--as is a Radio Frequency Massacre. --Maverick Talk - OBR Praise Knowledge! 404 06:51, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm more up for the timing that Maverick and Iscariot mentioned. It's best to wait until after the New Year before starting. But I'm definitely in favor of another one, and we could probably roll the Radio Frequency Massacre into the same operation...if the group doesn't acknowledge, we can just zap any frequencies they have as well. Aichon 11:07, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

It's all in hand. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 08:52, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

And in fairness should only take 3 weeks. Pitneybank first time around had 43 groups, now its got 8. Which reminds me, I need to go ask the MPD if their suburb listings are accurate. Last DEM group to do. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 11:15, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Exactly. These aren't so necessary anymore, it was the initial one that did the job. -- 11:18, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
I want a new sexy template though. The inactive ones Link did for top of pages is fine, but we want something 2010ish for the actual activity check. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 11:25, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Okays -- 11:29, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
So maybe start first week of January?--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 00:42, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Second! -- 01:08, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
If DDR's dead-set on starting on the second week, I have no issue with that either. :P Aichon 01:28, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
I think he means seconded. I could be wrong.--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 02:07, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm guessing he meant "seconded" as well, but I was making an attempt at a tongue-in-cheek comment. It seems I'm too tired at the moment to do so very well. Aichon 02:31, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
It's okay Aichon; we're all tired. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 02:40, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Sorry guys :( I meant the second week. -- 06:19, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Wiki bug?

Anyone else see two misplaced [edit] symbols under the "Become a fan" section of Malton Medical Staff? Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 04:00, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Nope, just you. -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.T 04:11, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
The section isn't labeled that, but I see them as well. I'm guessing it might be related to their use of images somehow, but am now sure. Aichon 05:57, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, it's a common problem with images aligned to the right, so I'm not sure why it's happening with some people when all the images are on the left, it may be the group template, I can't tell cause I can't see it an I can't find a Become a Fan section. -- 06:01, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
It's actually this section. And there's at least one image aligned on the right there. Aichon 06:55, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, it's a buildup from the section two above that one, because of that long image alongside it, I presume. -- 07:19, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Solution ideas, anyone? Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 15:55, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
A few ideas:
  1. Use smaller images (i.e. images that are vertically smaller than the sections they are in).
  2. Use a table/div layout, and place the images in a completely separate column/div. Note that a div within the text will still have the problem.
  3. Use the __NOEDITSECTION__ magic word if you don't actually need those edit links.
  4. Create your own edit links and place them where you want. It's possible, but tricky, and I don't have the code laying around for it at the moment.
Those are my best bets, but they all require changing the page visually somehow. Aichon 19:45, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Aichon; I'll just kill the edit links. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 21:17, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Meh.... --Weed.jpgImthatguyWeed.jpg found some weed 20:10, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Fixing the mess that is the Guides namespace

For the sake of organization, we should make Guides: a proper namespace (via Kevan,) instead of the pseudo-namespace it is now. A few pages will have to be moved (possibly more.)

Thoughts on this? Linkthewindow  Talk  04:19, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Why the hell not. Having proper namespaces created from pseudos doesn't hurt anyone, and guides have been a part of the wiki since the beginning. -- 04:25, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
It makes sense to have it be a proper namespace, but I'm unaware of what it would change at a practical day-to-day basis level. How would this help organization? Aichon 04:51, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
You'll be able to use {{PAGENAME}} properly, and use search to find all guides more easily. Also, my general impression has always been that pseudo-namespaces are Not Good. Linkthewindow  Talk  06:42, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

If it were me, I would just assume that silence implies consent and ask Kevan to add the new mainspace.

But, I feel like doing a straw poll, to confirm that I've got consensus for what's a really quite a minor change. Linkthewindow  Talk  14:48, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

You've got my consent. So that's three... did you need more? :P --Maverick Talk - OBR Praise Knowledge! 404 19:50, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
If this is the straw poll, then you have mine as well. Aichon 23:09, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Dead.

Like I said almost ayear ago.
Urban Dead is slowly dieing......... Well I'mmouta here--Jerrel Yokotory 01:44, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes. And...? Some of us only discovered the game within the last year. It's still enjoyable. Aichon 01:58, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
HOLY SHIT IT'S DYING JUMP SHIP We're coming to get you, Barbara 02:01, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
*awaits Jerrel's return to say the exact same thing in a few months* --Bob Boberton TF / DW Littlemudkipsig.gif 02:06, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Still like it, still play it, still think you're a drama queen attention-whore who is full of crap. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 02:08, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Still bitter you didn't get ops?!? No power trippin for you! -- 02:51, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Ou sont les neiges d'antan?

I don't know if anyone else is seeing this, but it looks like the snow has stopped. Can anyone confirm this, and if so, is it worth putting on the in-game news template?--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 20:51, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Confirmed, but not worth reporting.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:53, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
Where are the snows of yesteryear? They made the world so white... Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 23:16, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Just stuck it as an unofficial note in News. --

10:19, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Was this Talk:News not good enough for you? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 10:21, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
Not really, I just checked around the archives and did it the way I'd also seen it done. You're the weirdo in THIS outfit. -- 10:25, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
Sorry. Wasn't really concentrating. Got to do a lot of preperation for my upcoming arbies case. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:44, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
It's cool, I was just kidding. I wouldn't have added it on there but I missed your entry on the talk page, I assumed any action would have been noted here so I just stuck it on the main. -- 13:50, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

District pages?

After some initial coding, I have decided to follow Rooster's advice and just check with the general community before I do anything further. As some of the folks here know, I'm a big believer in districts as a concept and as a means of organizing Malton into manageable bits. As such, I have been working on district versions of the standard suburb page and the barricade plan pages.

Obviously both of these example pages need some work, but I am checking here to see if people think these would be worthwhile additions to the wiki or not. If they are, then I will get to work on sprucing up these example pages into a nice clean format before creating ones for all the other districts. If the community doesn't think that they are needed, then I will take them to Deletions. --Maverick Talk - OBR Praise Knowledge! 404 10:09, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

I guess it's up to you, but I really don't think they are so necessary. Suburb is a fine enough system on its own. -- 10:48, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Personally, I agree with DDR. I don't think they're needed, as the current system is already enough, and this would probably give more work, rather than lubricating the system. But, like DDR said, if you feel that these would be helpful, you might as well make them.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:29, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
I'd say setup the rose district and see if it takes off as a usual page. No point doing them all yet. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:51, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
I think they're worthwhile but not necessary, in the strictest sense. That said, I think the organic approach Ross suggests is a good one. Let's see the Rose District act as a template for the others. I think it can be made to work, and can be useful, but I think they'll be much less dynamic than the suburb pages in the end. Aichon 19:09, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure if this is the correct place to ask this, but if it is, then please disregard this statement.

I've been using Wiki.UrbanDead for a while now and I just have a small question regarding the pages of individual buildings in the districts of Malton. I was just curious if it is allowed to alter building descriptions and post pictures of buildings from real life so that the building would have a bit more history and flavor to it rather than just an empty page. --Adlehyde 19:08, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes. But remember this is a collaborative process, so don't be a dick if someone disagrees with your additions. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 21:16, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
I am aware that this is a collaborative process and in most cases, I am quite passive when it comes to disagreements so it shouldn't pose a problem. As well, I am curious if it is frowned upon to improve the grammar, punctuation, sentence structure of entries made by other people? The reason I ask this, is because I was looking around districts and having found one and a building that suits my needs, I find that is has a lot of entry history, some of which dates back to 2007. --Adlehyde 22:23, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Define 'entries'. If it's unsigned history fluff, go change it. If it's a signed comment like this, don't. If you're talking about old news postings, they can be archived. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 22:24, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
By entries, I mean that it is old but signed history and news fluff. I can post the link to the page if you'd like to see what building I am referring to. I also discovered that there are two links on the bottom of the page, both linking to archival pages for tenant entries and listings of tenants. If permitted, I could clean up the page so it isn't a long listing of entries and history. --Adlehyde 22:34, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity, is there a way to rediscover the district in which your character "woke up"? I can't remember where my guy started from. --TheBardofAwesome 13:45, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

No, there's not. I remember my namesake alt starting in Quarlesbank, but everyone else escapes me. Shame, really. We're coming to get you, Barbara 14:08, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Damn. I was hoping that there was a way, just one way I could find out. I mean, I don't mind making it up, but I'm gonna hate myself for doing it. And it's even more annoying considering this is the first character I've really played. --TheBardofAwesome 14:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
How long have you had the character? If you haven't moved much and you know how long you've had it, you can narrow it down quite a bit. We're coming to get you, Barbara 14:14, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
I've had the character since mid-January and I've moved around a lot. I was relatively new to the game and wanted to see what Urban Dead was like. Such a bad mistake, IMHO. *Sigh* It's interesting though. I mean, even from what I can that it's entirely randomized, it'd be cool if there was a way for your starting location to be logged. Amazingly enough, while I was looking at all notepad documents on my computer, I found a saved document saying that my guy was from Barter Road Fire Station in West Grayside. I can't believe I saved it to a document, but now that I think about it, I remember it vaguely. Amazing what you can find in your saved document files, isn't it?--TheBardofAwesome 15:41, 13 March 2010 (UTC)


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