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Aichon

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• New conversations should be started at the bottom using a level two header (e.g. ==Header==).
• I like to keep conversations wherever they start, but if a conversation ends up here, I will keep it here.
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Thanks. —Aichon—

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Style up.

Your pages are sexy. Im looking at revamping the zombie skills page, converting it into a hub with each page having its own page. Here's an example, any thoughts on styling it up? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 14:51, 16 April 2010 (BST)

Heh, well, style isn't something that comes naturally for me. I spent a few months figuring out what my pages should look like, and threw out several designs that initially seemed promising. I can recognize decent design usually, but I'm not good at producing it. Anyway, I'm responding now to let you know I'm not ignoring you, but that I want to take a bit more to think over it. Any timeline you have on this? I have one idea regarding displaying the entire hierarchy at the top of each page, but it was taking longer to make than I expected. Aside from that idea, I don't have anything new at the moment. I'd change the shade of green though, since it glares a bit. Something a bit muted would work better, I think (#cec or #aca are decent, though you could go darker to #8a8 or the like if you want). I'll look at it again and think over it a bit more later. —Aichon— 05:24, 17 April 2010 (BST)

Two pence here. I agree on the darker green, but I'm thinking instead of displaying the whole skill hierarchy, just the particular tree in question (Memories tree, Vigor tree, etc) would be all that is needed. 13:39, 17 April 2010 (BST)

I was going to display the tree horizontally. Or rather, display each main branch of the tree under its own column. It'd be using the same amount of vertical space as your idea, but it'd fill out the horizontal better, give better utility, and would also give them a clearer idea of where they were in the hierarchy. Anyway, it's almost 8am here...bed time! —Aichon— 13:44, 17 April 2010 (BST)

As i started the project about a year ago, there's no hurry. But thanks. Nice Idea about the tree. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 14:34, 17 April 2010 (BST)

Looking good. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 10:37, 29 April 2010 (BST)

UDMap

Hey, Aichon, I made another super easy change to one of your scripts, if you're interested. All I did was replace the redrum map links with links to the DSS map. I'm not sure what the best external map is, but at least DSS works. So, here's the script. - Cam moo 19:00, 21 April 2010 (BST)

Huh...coulda sworn I had updated that one already, but you're absolutely right, I hadn't. Thanks a lot! I'll update it later today since I'm heading out in just a sec here. And yep, I was planning to switch all of my scripts to use the DSS map soon, since I prefer it to the aypok map that some of them are linking to at the moment. —Aichon— 19:11, 21 April 2010 (BST)

Actually, shoot, I just realized that I messed that up. The world map links to DSS, but the suburb map links to aypok. I have no idea how I didn't notice that, but this one links to aypok on both of them. The DSS map is nicer, so maybe the first one is better, but I don't know how to have the suburb map link to DSS, since the urls use a different format than the redrum/aypok maps do. Sorry about that! This is why I don't write scripts. - Cam moo 19:29, 21 April 2010 (BST)

Heh, well, many thanks. I'll take a look at things once I get a chance and see what I can come up with (helping to operate a university lecture at the moment, so unable to work on scripts right now). Regardless of what does or doesn't work, pointing out the problem in the first place is massively helpful, since I don't personally use those links too often (I usually use the similar links in my GPS script). —Aichon— 20:08, 21 April 2010 (BST)

Project

Up for a little project? -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 23:49, 14 May 2010 (BST)

Maaaybe. But for some strange reason, I have a feeling that you're about to ask me for something that can't be done. —Aichon— 06:52, 15 May 2010 (BST)

No, instead of me submiting all the pictures in EVIL's group category for protection, I'd like just to ask someone to do it. Or I could submit each picture, and each talk page... By mid week, we'll actually probably ask for everything to be removed from the wiki anyway....

Another thing.... how do I go about getting a self ban after from the wiki? I'd like to have something set up similar to Matthewfarenheit... how's that work? -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 04:13, 16 May 2010 (BST)

Regarding the first, if you're about to wipe it all, then why protect it now? If you really want it protected though, then you'll need to put up an actual request with a link to the category and ask for all images to be protected, since I can't protect by informal request alone. Should be simple enough, I hope, unless I'm missing something. You shouldn't need to list out every single one, since the request is straightforward (in cases where you want some, but not all, to be protected, having an explicit list is useful, but there's no need for it here).

As for the second, see #6 here. It's how Matthew Fahrenheit was banned. —Aichon— 07:08, 16 May 2010 (BST)

You just go on A/VB and ask. --

 

 

 

 

09:29, 16 May 2010 (BST)

Next question,... If I want an indefinite ban, and decide to come back in the future, say, 10 yrs from now... as an example... how would I go about contacting someone to unban the account? -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 02:56, 22 May 2010 (BST)

Ask Cheese via IRC... 02:59, 22 May 2010 (BST)

Yeah, just ask one of the sysops on IRC or else e-mail someone. —Aichon— 03:14, 22 May 2010 (BST)

You're not a sysop? -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 04:41, 31 May 2010 (BST)

I was reiterating and expanding on what Mis said to include all sysops (myself included, of course), should Cheese not be available (I haven't seen him on IRC in months). —Aichon— 09:50, 31 May 2010 (BST)

I for one haven't seen him in over a year, I was surprised it was even suggested :D --

 

 

 

 

09:52, 31 May 2010 (BST)

It was a joke. 14:22, 1 June 2010 (BST)

Even if banned, if you've specified an email address you can use the Email this user button on the left tool bar and email a sop. Worked a treat when bob was trying to speedy delete stuff whilst I was banned. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 14:34, 1 June 2010 (BST)

Help with Suggestions

Hey Aichion Could you tell me how to put suggestions up for voting?

Thanks Scvideoking 23:44, 14 May 2010 (BST)scvideoking

"Aichon". No "i" after the "h".

Anyway, you basically just need to go here and then follow the instructions very carefully. To make a long story short, you'll copy/paste that first bit of code they gave you directly onto that page. You'll then follow a link that that code creates, and will paste that SugHead code onto that new page. Then you need to follow the instructions it gives you when you preview the page. Just make sure you go through it all, step by step, and that you don't skip anything along the way. If you get stuck, ask for help. —Aichon— 06:52, 15 May 2010 (BST)

Pker identifier

So I was thinking, you have that superscript R that links you to a site showing a person's bounty. Is there anyway to get public access to that database such that you can color-code the people you are near by their bounty? It would be great for independents to be able to judge where they're sleeping based on the presence of Pkers, and a color coded name would be by far the quickest way to tell how nefarious a person is or how precarious a situation is. Are you a Sagittarius? That would be hilarious because I'm Aquarius. we tend to have vicarious thrills from gregarious people. Anaswasi 15:54, 23 May 2010 (BST)

Well, at least with the browsers I support with that script, it's not possible. It'd require opening up a connection to another server while loading the UD page, but some of the browsers lock out opening connections to other servers as a security concern (Firefox being the only one that doesn't, from what I can tell). Plus, that's not a script that I actively use myself (I merely support it), so I'm afraid I'm not keen on extending its feature set, especially since something of this sort would take quite a bit of effort and would work in Firefox alone, I'm afraid. —Aichon— 18:37, 23 May 2010 (BST)

Something like that does already exist anyway. Just get UDWidget and load the contact list of the RG website into it. It's just that a.) it's updated manually rather then in real-time, and b.) that the RG doesn't objectively tell if someone is "a bad guy" or not, just if someone has been reported for PKing someone who hasn't PKed himself (or at least was never reported for it). But b.) is anyway a problem for each and every evil-doer list and unsolvable as soon as dual natures, GKers, death-cultists and other fuzzy characters enter the picture. -- Spiderzed▋ 18:49, 23 May 2010 (BST)

Aichon, you said it would be a lot of work, and after taking CS100, I think the program itself would be easy- simply a map of a key(ID#) to a value(bounty). Obviously this is not the hard part. From a coding perspective, what makes this a difficult script to write? I don't know much about CS and I'm interested. I guess you answered this in your original reply- the data is hard to get into your program? Anaswasi 18:55, 23 May 2010 (BST)

The problem is in establishing the connection to the Rogue's Gallery at page load time since I believe that all of the browsers besides Firefox prohibit that sort of activity (as in, it's not even possible to do it...it'll throw a runtime exception in Safari and Chrome, I believe, for instance). The only other way to do it would be to export the Rogue's Gallery data and then put it into the script manually, but, as was pointed out, it wouldn't stay updated automatically, and there are already ways to do that using existing tools (e.g. UDTool or udwidget, as was mentioned, both work in Firefox). As you said, the mapping is rather trivial, it's just a matter of finding the data in a way that's automatic. Even if it were possible in the other browsers, I'd also have to educate myself on how those sorts of things work, since I haven't gotten around to doing asynchronous communication with Javascript just yet. It's probably not too hard, but it'd take some time for me to learn and figure out, which I'm more inclined to spend elsewhere right now. —Aichon— 19:09, 23 May 2010 (BST)

Big Bash 3

Did you ask for permission to edit that page? --Thadeous Oakley 10:16, 26 May 2010 (BST)

Are you going to honestly try to claim ownership of it? We already have members in-game with that as our group tag and have stuff on the wiki that predates the page (which I'm sure you're very aware of, given the timing of when you creating the page). I'll be very disappointed if you decide to do that, but I understand you have a history with some of the people and may be trying to use this as a vehicle to get back at them. If so, I'm asking kindly that you don't. This is not a threat, just a simple statement of my preference, but I really would rather not have to get into something ugly over this, especially since you and I don't have any such history between us. —Aichon— 10:24, 26 May 2010 (BST)

Aww, you're such a nice person to provide such a mature argument. Don't worry, I was just teasing you a little, I mean no harm and you and your zombie friends can do whatever they like. Don't know where you got the impression that I have "history" with people behind this, as to my knowledge I do not. Yours sincerely, --Thadeous Oakley 10:35, 26 May 2010 (BST)

*phew* Very glad to hear it! I'm sure you've seen the work I've been putting into it over the last week or so, and to come this far only to have even the possibility of it being obstructed...definitely wasn't a laughing moment for me right then (one's head has a tendency to fill up with all of the worst case scenarios instantly), but I can definitely laugh together with you now at the situation. As for history, I was never much of a history buff, so this wouldn't be the first time I may have been mistaken about something that's before my time. Anyway, you gave me a scare there, but thanks for letting me go ahead with it. I appreciate it. :) —Aichon— 10:45, 26 May 2010 (BST)

Can't wait, this was long overdue! Good luck. --

 

 

 

 

13:27, 26 May 2010 (BST)

Thanks! I'm just the wiki guy, however, and though I'm the only one making the edits (for the most part), it's definitely been a collaboration with lots of input from lots of people, most of whom will be coming into the spotlight a lot more in the coming weeks, whereas I'll be able to take it easier after this setup is all done. :P —Aichon— 13:32, 26 May 2010 (BST)

That's the way I've always hoped it would work, as a wiki monkey can't pull this off on his own but would benefit greatly from that super sexy inside support from mates. I'll defo join up, I've been rott clogging the same revive point for like 2 fucking monthS. power to the BAHRARH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!--

 

 

 

 

13:37, 26 May 2010 (BST)

Haha, my apologies, I can imagine your reaction after all that effort. Also, compliments on the design so far. Looks really fancy ;) --Thadeous Oakley 22:47, 31 May 2010 (BST)

Now I can see them, I don't liek the initial big letters. Have you considered the Chiller font? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 09:56, 27 May 2010 (BST)

You'd be surprised how many computers don't have that font :( --

 

 

 

 

10:17, 27 May 2010 (BST)

But I do. And my importance it absolute. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 10:32, 27 May 2010 (BST)

I picked a "generic font", that way it would ensure that everyone would see something there that's in the ballpark of what I wanted. Unfortunately, there is no generic font for "spooky stuff", and Chiller is not widely adopted, last I checked. I really am trying to hit the low fruit with that page, so it should look good for as many people as possible (I intentionally went light on my usual shadows, rounded edges, embossing, gradients, etc., just because I didn't want it looking broken in IE or earlier versions of FF, which many people use). —Aichon— 10:38, 27 May 2010 (BST)

My deleted suggestion

Heh, I feel like an idiot now. Sorry about that. I was just wondering how long I should wait before I re-post my new suggestion. I had assumed I should wait a few days or weeks (or months), but I do think that the suggestion is a decent one, and want to put it down eventually. Gmanyo 14:34, 26 May 2010 (BST)

You can put it back up immediately, actually. It shouldn't be a problem at all. That said, I'd still advise taking it to Developing Suggestions first so that you can get some feedback from the people who will be voting on it and can take their thoughts into consideration. They're pretty harsh over there, but that's what's necessary since it's not like they're going to hold back when actually voting. —Aichon— 14:45, 26 May 2010 (BST)

Oh! That's what Developing Suggestions is. Thanks so much: I thought it was for suggestions that had been voted in but were still developing! Boy was I confused. Thanks, man. Gmanyo 17:16, 26 May 2010 (BST)

Orphans

Orphaned Page

The following page(s) were orphaned, meaning they weren't linked from any other page on UDWiki. For house-keeping's sake, we are adding the link onto the relevant talk page. If you don't want the pages anymore just post them on the Deletions Page. You aren't required to do anything, but we'd appreciate if it you kept the link on any one of your pages. Please note that the link provided below will not remove the page from Orphaned Pages, so you'll still need to manually make a link for us. Thank you.

Your page, Big Bash 3/Admin, was not linked to on the wiki. This message is just to provide a link for it and clear it from our orphanage.

Your page, Big Bash 3/Attacking, was not linked to on the wiki. This message is just to provide a link for it and clear it from our orphanage.

Your page, Big Bash 3/Contact, was not linked to on the wiki. This message is just to provide a link for it and clear it from our orphanage.

Your page, Big Bash 3/Guide, was not linked to on the wiki. This message is just to provide a link for it and clear it from our orphanage.

Your page, Big Bash 3/Location, was not linked to on the wiki. This message is just to provide a link for it and clear it from our orphanage.

Your page, Big Bash 3/Thanks, was not linked to on the wiki. This message is just to provide a link for it and clear it from our orphanage.

--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 16:21, 27 May 2010 (BST)

You're a little too thorough sometimes... —Aichon— 00:54, 28 May 2010 (BST)

Hey!

I chose Yonnua, but his page siad he was gonna be ultrainactive today. UDWiki:Administration/Demotions needs an archive but i can't do it myself because archive is protected. nudge! ;D --

 

 

 

 

07:25, 31 May 2010 (BST)

I'll deal with it it momentarily if no one else preempts me in the next few minutes. *waits for someone to preempt him* No? Shucks. —Aichon— 09:52, 31 May 2010 (BST)

Badmen misrepresented

The Badmen do little on the wiki, but nonetheless are everpresent (although underwhelmingly so at the moment), so to remove them from the the West Boundwood page simply misrepresents the group situation in the suburb. Can they not simply be returned?--Harald von Holzapfel 18:57, 1 June 2010 (BST)

Absolutely! They were only removed due to inactivity on the wiki, not as some sort of punishment or anything of the sort (a group of us went through and cleaned up all of the suburbs a few months back, removing dozens of groups that failed to respond, of which they were just one). If they're still around, they're welcome to add themselves back to the suburb listing. That said, the guidelines for who can be listed have been slightly modified since they were removed (specifically, #2 was added since we wanted to ensure that we had a surefire way to contact any group). Since The Badmen used to simply link to the wiki article for the Badmen Building, they'd need to actually have their own wiki page (it wouldn't need to be elaborate in the least) before they could be linked from the listing. —Aichon— 20:11, 1 June 2010 (BST)

Hello my good man!

	Dear Fellow
	Chance would have it that another Mayoral race has begun! Word on the street is that you'd be a stellar candidate to walk up the apples and pears to stand as mayor! Jolly good show, and hop on over to the election space to declare yourself. Pip, pip!

Run for the Zombiecratic party and sweep to illustrious power. Also, contact people on Barhah.com about the election, because I'm certain there are bigwigs there who will want to run.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 12:30, 2 June 2010 (BST)

I'm not really that well-known at barhah.com, but someone else has already gone and done what you suggested. As for me running, ehhh...not so sure. I doubt I will, but you never know (also, until I preempted my dual nature character for the Bash, I had only one dedicated zombie, so running as that party may not be appropriate anyway). —Aichon— 12:39, 2 June 2010 (BST)