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::I strongly agree with Aichon's stance to '''undelete'''. The policy of deleting old groups has been abolished for good reason and with strong consensus, while there is virtually no harm in undeleting the page. Additionally, according to my research the current OCUK group seems to be a continuitation of the old group, since it too [http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18320623 is based on the OCUK forums]. If you cross-reference a google-search for [http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site%3Aurbandead.com+ocuk site:urbandead.com ocuk] with the member list in the first post, you will definitively see that it is. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 18:11, 11 September 2012 (BST)
::I strongly agree with Aichon's stance to '''undelete'''. The policy of deleting old groups has been abolished for good reason and with strong consensus, while there is virtually no harm in undeleting the page. Additionally, according to my research the current OCUK group seems to be a continuitation of the old group, since it too [http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18320623 is based on the OCUK forums]. If you cross-reference a google-search for [http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site%3Aurbandead.com+ocuk site:urbandead.com ocuk] with the member list in the first post, you will definitively see that it is. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 18:11, 11 September 2012 (BST)
:::If that is the case then there's no reason not to undelete it. Forum location however, isn't normally enough proof in these cases to determine it. It also address' Aichon's reasoning. The older page consists of OLD group information and the forum thread linked by Spiderzed lends itself to this being a new group on that forum not the previous one making a return. In this case undeleting this page would likely serve to misinform users, which is why these cases, particularly crit 12 revival, normally require a group member to make the request and verify all of this beyond our limited and unreliable suppositions. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 00:24, 12 September 2012 (BST)
:::If that is the case then there's no reason not to undelete it. Forum location however, isn't normally enough proof in these cases to determine it. It also address' Aichon's reasoning. The older page consists of OLD group information and the forum thread linked by Spiderzed lends itself to this being a new group on that forum not the previous one making a return. In this case undeleting this page would likely serve to misinform users, which is why these cases, particularly crit 12 revival, normally require a group member to make the request and verify all of this beyond our limited and unreliable suppositions. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 00:24, 12 September 2012 (BST)
Having reviewed the pre deletion edits, I see no reason to bring it back. The information would all be out of date anyway. Let them request, or create a new page if they so care. --[[User:Rosslessness|I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, ]][[User talk:Rosslessness|I'm the Ross it deserves.]]  00:28, 12 September 2012 (BST)


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This page is for the request of page undeletions within the Urban Dead wiki. Due to concerns about loss of data, the ability to undelete pages is restricted to system operators. As such, regular users will need to request an undeletion from a system operator. For consistency and accountability, system operators also adhere to the guidelines listed here.

Please note that Images cannot be restored, they are permanently gone when deleted. If you wish to prevent any currently unused images from being deleted you may wish to Image Ark them.

Due to the new software update, images deleted from the wiki after 21st April 2011 can be undeleted. Images deleted prior to this date unfortunately cannot be restored.

Guidelines for Undeletion Requests

All Undeletion Requests must contain the following information in order to be considered:

  • A link to the deletion request in question. Preferably bolded for visibility.
  • A reason for undeletion. This should be short and to the point.
  • A signed datestamp. This can be easily done by adding ~~~~ to the end of your request.

Any undeletion request that does not contain these three pieces of information will not be considered, and will be removed by a system operator.

Undeletions may only be granted if the user provides a convincing reason as to why the page should be resurrected, or if the page was deleted as a result of a system operators abuse.

Once the undeletion request has been entered, the request shall remain on this page, where it will be reviewed by a member of the Sysop team, and action taken accordingly. Once action has been taken, the request will be moved into Recent Actions, along with a comment from the system operator who determined the action take. After a week has passed with the target page in Recent Actions, it can be moved to the Archive.

Undeletion Queue

OcUK

Recommending we undelete this page. The page was deleted back in 2006 under the infamous crit 12, citing that the group was defunct and no longer on the stats page. It is now once more on the stats page and I think it makes a lot of sense to just undelete the page (there's still a revision from before it was deleted, so we could bring it back). So, what does everybody think? If it sways you one way or the other, Conndraka was the one who deleted it. >:) --Shortround }.{ My Contributions 00:58, 11 September 2012 (BST)

If it was deleted six year ago, surely the prior version would have been lost in the history purges. For hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee 01:29, 11 September 2012 (BST)
You'd think so, but he's right. Its deletion history shows two revisions, one from 2006 and one from 2005. Go figure. Aichon 04:16, 11 September 2012 (BST)
Then turn it back on. For hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee 04:31, 11 September 2012 (BST)

I'd agree with your assessment Mis, good to just undelete on their behalf. By the way, on this wiki at least, deleted revisions that only Sysops can see don't get purged in history purges. In an extreme case, it could be a nice way to keep revisions is Kevan gives us a time and date for the purges. A ZOMBIE ANT 08:35, 11 September 2012 (BST)

We only undelete pages if there's clear need for the page to exist. If the Z man had requested it it'd be more likely to be done but, in this case it's an ancient group no on has notably missed having a page on the wiki. If the new group is the SAME group, which it may not be, then they can by all means come here to request the action or if they're not it's a free page. Also noteworthy is that the abbreviation wasn't the old groups' name.

For note; deleted revisions are in a different db from page versions iirc. They never see page wipes so deletion, in some of these cases, actually means better preservation of the article content for later re-use. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 10:02, 11 September 2012 (BST)

We only undelete pages if there's a convincing reason to do so, and I think there's one here. The page was deleted as part of routine maintenance to cull inactive groups, but the group has been back and active for around a year now, I think, and I seriously doubt a different group of (apparently) non-meta-gamers chose the same four letters with the same capitalization and spacing. If it had been deleted for a more compelling reason, I might support keeping it deleted until a request came in, but this was for a form of maintenance that's no longer practiced, and the group is clearly back. Additionally, it's large enough that people viewing the stats page want to know some stuff about them (including myself, prior to my being a sysop again), which is a good reason to undelete. Aichon 15:47, 11 September 2012 (BST)
I strongly agree with Aichon's stance to undelete. The policy of deleting old groups has been abolished for good reason and with strong consensus, while there is virtually no harm in undeleting the page. Additionally, according to my research the current OCUK group seems to be a continuitation of the old group, since it too is based on the OCUK forums. If you cross-reference a google-search for site:urbandead.com ocuk with the member list in the first post, you will definitively see that it is. -- Spiderzed 18:11, 11 September 2012 (BST)
If that is the case then there's no reason not to undelete it. Forum location however, isn't normally enough proof in these cases to determine it. It also address' Aichon's reasoning. The older page consists of OLD group information and the forum thread linked by Spiderzed lends itself to this being a new group on that forum not the previous one making a return. In this case undeleting this page would likely serve to misinform users, which is why these cases, particularly crit 12 revival, normally require a group member to make the request and verify all of this beyond our limited and unreliable suppositions. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 00:24, 12 September 2012 (BST)

Having reviewed the pre deletion edits, I see no reason to bring it back. The information would all be out of date anyway. Let them request, or create a new page if they so care. --I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, I'm the Ross it deserves. 00:28, 12 September 2012 (BST)

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Past undeletions can be found in the archives.

User:Jerrel Yokotory/movement

I miss this gem of wiki history. I wanna read the page that caused me much lols. Can it PLEEAASSSEEE be undeleted either there or in my userspace! It was hilarious. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 02:36, 8 September 2012 (BST)

Undelete this. Pwease. For hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee 03:44, 8 September 2012 (BST)
Absolutely not. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 03:53, 8 September 2012 (BST)
Can a real sysop please answer this request. thanks DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:57, 8 September 2012 (BST)
Absolutely not. Karek maps 2.0?! 09:18, 8 September 2012 (BST)
It's funny, because its an open and shut case of impersonation. --I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, I'm the Ross it deserves. 09:19, 8 September 2012 (BST)
Please elaborate DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 12:46, 8 September 2012 (BST)