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Way too Evil

Friend of yours? Check his real name link (NSFW). I think that's more then enough to get him on a Text Rape list. Might wanna talk to him. I'm also scarred for life now :( --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 11:20, 25 August 2010 (BST)

Yeah, mate in EVIL. What do you mean by NSFW? I don't want to force him out of having his own crap on his profile, he's probably had it there as long as he's been playing, which is a while. I don't really mind tbh, his loss if he's anti-text-raped. lol. --
11:29, 25 August 2010 (BST)
Not Safe For Work. Ring a bell? Did you follow the link? But okay, it's not like I'm going to report him, I don't really care but I know some people do and I thought I'd bring it up. Anyway, now I have accidentally bumped into you guys I'm deciding whether or not I send a surprise down there.--Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 11:35, 25 August 2010 (BST)
Lol! Just so you know, we'll run away from any PKing attacks, we are all wimps atm. Yeah, I've seen lemonparty, it's pretty common, it's like meatspin or any shock website IMO, you're going to see it one way or another and the sooner you do the sooner you can identify the link as something you're never going to click again. Either way, thanks for the heads up, I'll pass the message onto him and see what he thinks. --
11:37, 25 August 2010 (BST)


Since you archived the page.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 11:49, 25 August 2010 (BST)

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^^^ Evidence.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 11:50, 25 August 2010 (BST)
Doesn't count unless he empties it completely. Aichon 12:12, 25 August 2010 (BST)
It coutns for me... Also, I like where this Radioactive thing is going.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 12:19, 25 August 2010 (BST)
Don't mind me, just maintaining my page presence... ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 13:55, 25 August 2010 (BST)

I spy...

...a stalker not more than 30 seconds ago... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 14:34, 25 August 2010 (BST)

Great minds think alike! -- LEMON #1 14:35, 25 August 2010 (BST)
I'm completely not sure if you remember her, but Tselita was in that very same building. Also, my friend, Zensaga was in there as well... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 14:52, 25 August 2010 (BST)


Unless they go the "guilt by association" rule for GTF's fit,it should be done for sure. As for learning about it, you'd have learned about it at least as soon the first zerg hunter had PKed you. -- Spiderzed 15:38, 27 August 2010 (BST)

What is the guilt by association?? -- LEMON #1 17:13, 27 August 2010 (BST)
The powers that be generally don't like if appealers get abusive and foul-mouthed. (And I probably wouldn't like it as well, looking how they had and have to deal with the likes of Finis Valorum, Dead Bunnies and TZH.) It's some difference though if some lying scumbags like the Dead Bunnies throw out a barrage of insults while denying even basic facts, or if a single member out of several snaps slightly in a case that has been weak to begin with. -- Spiderzed 01:22, 28 August 2010 (BST)
Yeah fair. I hoped they would overlook that since we obvs aren't zerging and I just assumed the IP was important so I didn't force the words out of any of their mouths, I just let them say whatever. And it's a ZERG LIST they maintain, if they can't handle abuse from wrongly accused people then they shouldn't be there IMO. One more question: It appears that Guy's response was moved to another thread, is that right? And why? :/ -- LEMON #1 01:29, 28 August 2010 (BST)
The mods are running the ZL in their spare time and are basically providing a public service, at which 90% of all work _should_ already be done by Kevan (if the auto-measures were worth anything), so I grant them any right to refuse appeals on the base of "being something we don't wanna put up with". As for moving it, I have no idea if GTF's comment has been moved, and why. If it has any effect will be seen at least as soon as the next list update comes in. -- Spiderzed 01:42, 28 August 2010 (BST)
It buttfucks objectivity up the arsehole if they refuse 100% watertight appeals from a group who is absolutely not zerging if someone says the F word in them. Just saying. Thought we would have been 100% in the clear, ahh well. Thanks for everything. -- LEMON #1 02:09, 28 August 2010 (BST)
I told you so:
It's some difference though if some lying scumbags like the Dead Bunnies throw out a barrage of insults while denying even basic facts, or if a single member out of several snaps slightly in a case that has been weak to begin with.
For actual answers on that, you have to grab an actual operator (like TheHuntsman or MarcusCaesar). I'm just a lone zerg hunter and not involved with ZL maintenance. -- Spiderzed 02:17, 28 August 2010 (BST)
Yeah fair, soz. Again, thanks for the help through this. -- LEMON #1 03:42, 28 August 2010 (BST)
Essentially, if somebody takes pains to heap abuse the ZL Mods in their removal request then we take that as a clear indication that they do not in fact wish to be removed. (Otherwise they would abide by the removal rules, in which this situation is specifically called out.) It's like someone's face giving the lie to their words, but an online equivalent. ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 04:59, 28 August 2010 (BST)
Yeah, fair enough. Thanks for the clarification Rev. -- LEMON #1 05:01, 28 August 2010 (BST)
I suppose I should really ask what the context is (in case there is something I should be doing)… but I kinda don't want to (in case there is something I should be doing). Shifty >_> <_< ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 09:51, 29 August 2010 (BST)
Oh, just in the zerg liste 9 thread my new group EVIL was submitted to be added because we all defended a break-in with very quick precision and execution. To make sure there was no chance of us being actually added, I got the suspected players to post on the appeals thread so their IP's could be logged. Out of the 5 of us that were considered, the last person to post chucked a shitty over us being added (he didn't realise we had only been submitted, not added) over something so trivial in his eyes. The post itself while embarrassing wasn't anything too over the top in itself, and since I have a lack of knowledge of the zerg liste methods so I'm pretty paranoid about being added, since it would create a massive dark cloud over our groups morale etc. -- LEMON #1 11:29, 29 August 2010 (BST)
Yeah, you should be fine, mate. Suspicion is not proof, and you've definitely done the right thing in your response. If I were you, I'd do as Mostly Harmless did and view it as a badge of honour. ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 16:50, 30 August 2010 (BST)

The Wyke Hills/Wykewood confusion

You know, those can happen when you are updating a dozen EMRs alone. And the fact that there were two reports for Wyke Hills and one for Wykewood on that particular update didn't help either. And yet when you found it, you decided to point and laugh at it instead of fixing it. I wonder how that could help. -- Kittithaj 16:48, 28 August 2010 (BST)

People make mistakes. I make lots. Don't go all butthurt on me for it. -- LEMON #1 06:58, 29 August 2010 (BST)

Thought you'd like to know

It looks like your DanceDance arrows sig might be one of the ones causing issues for A/VB (the current month's archive isn't showing up on it since it has too much inclusion data), since it's a decent amount larger than the norm. This isn't a warning to fix it or anything of the sort, merely a friendly notification, since I figured you'd want to be aware of something like this. What you do with this info is your call. My best guess is that it's the images causing the issues, since the other big culprit was Mis' sig with the images in it. Aichon 06:45, 30 August 2010 (BST)

Yeah, I've noticed that in IE both your sig and Mis's sig are appearing vertically. ~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 06:56, 30 August 2010 (BST)
Ah, yeah, that's an unfortunate side affect of the code that they're using to get links over their images (it's my fault, since I wrote the code). IE7 and earlier doesn't understand the "display: inline-box" stuff, I believe, so it does a "display: box" equivalent instead, which means each image gets its own line. I haven't figured out a fix yet, though I'll readily admit I haven't been looking too hard since I'm not reminded of the issue during daily use (I use something other than IE, of course). IE8 is better (so long as Compatibility Mode is disabled), in that they don't use multiple lines, but the link aspect of the code simply doesn't work in IE8 (yet? Rooster was working on it as recently as yesterday or so). Aichon 07:04, 30 August 2010 (BST)
Thanks heaps for that info guys. I do like the arrows sig but I've always understood there'd most likely be some sort of unfixable problem with them, so I have no issue removing it and just redirecting it to my current lemon signature. is it just affecting the inclusion on the A/VB page? Or did the signatures in the archive itself also refuse to display? If the former was the only issue, I might wait till the month is over, revert the sig back to the arrows and just continue from there on with my current sig. -- LEMON #1 07:22, 30 August 2010 (BST)

Just a note on the arrows sig, you can use Template:ClickInternal for the images now. Good news is that it works (thank Aichon), bad news is that it's weighty so using it on several images is bad, mmmkay? Also you have to use it because I said so or I'll get all sig policy on your ass. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 07:16, 1 September 2010 (BST)

K cool thanks Rooster. -- LEMON #1 07:57, 1 September 2010 (BST)

recruitment ad

i appreciate the help in conforming my attempt at a recruitment ad. at least ya helped me with it instead of being a jerk about it. i need to brush up on my wiki. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nuerotoxic2213 (talkcontribs) 01:07, 1 September 2010.

That was actually me that fixed it up for you, though DDR was kinda enough to remove a stray character from the page that was making it look a bit off. Aichon 06:20, 1 September 2010 (BST)

sup biatch

whats teh lowdown on the game updates? bellow + that scout safehouse skill is that all?? also - scout safehouse, do the actions have to be completed in the safehouse? how the frack does the game measure that? Also there should be a link of the news page to a page that explains the updates in non-zombieapoc style. Ie outlines what we know of the actual changes. if that already exists; link me and make the link more obvious for others. sick1 xoxo 11:28, 2 September 2010 (BST)

Safehouses--Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 12:07, 2 September 2010 (BST)
dunke!xoxo 15:20, 4 September 2010 (BST)


You realise that you just commented on the main page, not the talk page, right?--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 07:59, 6 September 2010 (BST)

Haha!!! I didn't even notice :( Thanks for the heads up! -- LEMON #1 08:11, 6 September 2010 (BST)
=P Don't worry about it, I thought it was a talk at first too. Probably because they brought the votes across from the talk.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 08:13, 6 September 2010 (BST)

hey papi

can you move this under the QSG name space? thanks?----sexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png ¯\(Boobs.gif)/¯ 14:46, 9 September 2010 (BST)

Yeboi -- LEMON #1 17:33, 9 September 2010 (BST)
and dis----sexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png ¯\(Boobs.gif)/¯ 16:39, 16 September 2010 (BST)
I was directed to a header halfway down the page so I figured you meant to move the whole thing, so I did. Also, I had a dream about you last night. Yeah, I dream about UD. And you. I was in your group but I kept getting killed by people. And now you're here. You're planting Inception, I know it! -- LEMON #1 22:29, 16 September 2010 (BST)
yeah i meant everything. i just want to get everything cleaned up and organized before i take my leave of UD. and getting killed by stupid people is just part of being in the QSG. FUCK HOW DID YOU FIGURE OUT MY PLAN? THE ARCHITECT IS STILL SLEEPING?----sexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png ¯\(Boobs.gif)/¯ 14:22, 17 September 2010 (BST)


Do I have all the skills I'm gonna need for the manhunt? What with Lurching Gait and Ankle grab, I think I'm about done now.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 17:40, 9 September 2010 (BST)

Vinetown scout approves of this. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:52, 9 September 2010 (BST)
They were skeptical! They said I couldn't level a Dinosaur based character before October! They were wrong! </smug> --User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 18:59, 9 September 2010 (BST)
I hate to point this out but my discosaur gained all his XP from shooting people not zombies. No needles or FAK's either. Its not gonna be hard to get the remainder before October. -- Emot-argh.gif 19:32, 9 September 2010 (BST)
Hell yeah! We're gonna eat some humans!--The Big T 22:31, 9 September 2010 (BST)

Scroll boxes

Such as the one in your main sandpit. Can they be placed side by side? Or, for that matter, can anything be placed alongside them?--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 09:41, 10 September 2010 (BST)

I imagine if you confined each one to an (absolute?) div and specified the divs to go side by side like one would normally, it'd be possible, but you'd have to obviously smallen their set width. I haven't touched those scrollboxes in over a year pretty much and I originally got them from my ex-boyfriend op User:Linkthewindow, and you can see his speakbox is easily confined within simple tables so I don't think something you're mentioning is outside of reason. -- LEMON #1 10:03, 10 September 2010 (BST)
Yeah I already looked at Link's code. I'll have a crack at what you suggested now. Thanks!--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 10:05, 10 September 2010 (BST)
If you have troubles, come back sometime and hit me up, back then I knew so little about DIV overlays mine was practically just a steal of Links. Between us and Aichon I'd be very surprised if we couldn't make what you want to work. -- LEMON #1 10:06, 10 September 2010 (BST)
Yeah, I just went to have a look, and I realised I don't actually know how to put divs side by side. I'm working up a trial at my stub page, but I've pretty much hit a brick wall. If you could help get those side by side, I'd be very appreciative. :P --User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 10:10, 10 September 2010 (BST)
I'll be able to, but semi finals footy is on so I'll come back in an hour and a half to have a squiz. Wouldn't be surprised if either you or aichon did it that time. In the meantime, look at the divs for the INFO and TALK div boxes for Every Villain Is Lemons which I also stole from BB3 page if I remember right. Play around with the positions and notice how one is relative to the other, that might help. -- LEMON #1 10:42, 10 September 2010 (BST)
Just sorted it. Thanks loads!--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 10:51, 10 September 2010 (BST)

Just checking

To make sure you saw this since I never heard confirmation that you'd seen it. It does fix the issue of centering the image, but it comes at the cost of having hidden text on the page. I offered some more explanation on my talk page a few days back. Aichon 21:25, 10 September 2010 (BST)

wiki noob needs a mentor

Hi. I'm new to wiki editing and only know the most basic of stuff. I've wanted to learn for a while so when I found Project Mentor I figured I'd give you a shout. HAAAAAAAAAAAALP! I suck at this. Thanks Skynet Defense Network 16:18, 12 September 2010 (BST)

I could help if DDR isn't available. Or anyone else for that matter. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 16:19, 12 September 2010 (BST)
i'll do it! xoxo 12:35, 13 September 2010 (BST)


Hello, Mr. Revolution. I cordially come to you to ask you a simple question regarding your edits to our screenshots. Why do you insinuate we zerg? Is it because we have screen captures of our own events? If that is the case, it can easily be explained. We do have members just waiting to record our... successes. --Dracula 06:31, 14 September 2010 (BST)

Nup. It's just cause when I have a hundred or so images/pages to categorise in one sitting I just put funny edit summaries down. I'm deprived of fun or amusement in this "hobby" nowadays and want a reaction. No fault to you for enquiring either, zerging is a bad allegation and one I had to go through much stress to stomp down of my group from some butthurt zombie on the Zerg Liste forums. As for the origination of the call? I heard lots of things from Umbrella's wenches about you guys. -- LEMON #1 09:14, 14 September 2010 (BST)
Ah, I see. Good to know it's not personal. Haha, now that you mention Umbrella, they love to throw the zerging accusations around when they're defeated/owned. They love to spread lies. Seems like they have members that partake in zerging, but I'm not going to worry about that. Just killing them. I'm grateful for the fast reply. --Dracula 11:31, 14 September 2010 (BST)
No probs, and it's great to see you didn't take it personally straight off the bat- respect. I was just being immature. Have a good one. -- LEMON #1 11:36, 14 September 2010 (BST)

Passing Through

Just thought to stop by and say hello. And ask an unsolicited personal question.

On a serious note, DDR, I think you've gotten far, Cyberbobish. Grimish. Less tolerant. Looking at a random sampling of your edits, you seem a lot more prone to assuming general incompetence of the people you talk to, as compared to a year+ ago. Yes, people change, hell Grim was nice once...a long time ago, in a wiki far, far, away, true. My comment about jadedness was meant as a mild tweak at best, but your response I took to be far more virulent then I was honestly expecting.

I am not your friend, so I realise this is presumptive, but I would appreciate an answer. I do think you do good work and have a pretty good record as an admin, but my memory of your seeming wiki persona a year ago is at serious odds with your present one. Has adminship caused this, or just overexposure to general asshattery and the grind of the wiki? -Wulfenbach 06:56, 15 September 2010 (BST)

No prob. I think it's a mixture of things. The main one is my current lifestyle IRL, I'm having much less time I can call my own and I'm constantly strung out and burned out from work and university and I think my willingness to spend my small amount of time arguing on UDWiki is waning. I still like to come around because I'm still playing the game with IRL friends, but I no longer bother pretending that if UDWiki was a real life establishment it'd be one I'd attend in a suit and tie. My focus is on fixing up the place as a resource for players, and to stop vandalism and help users interested in coding or events. Beyond that I've been really intolerant towards extraneous arguing even if it's within these realms of my interests. You're right, I've become a lot more retarded of late, but it's a personal problem, not actually an in-wiki problem I think. I also got burned out from my reign as a bureaucrat in early 2010 and that's when I decided the wiki was something I could no longer spend hours a day on. Also, when I was a sysop a year ago there was a reason to take this place and my position seriously from a managerial point of view because between the inept ops, the inactive ones and the dickheads it was a fight to have this place running properly. At one point, for a month, Cyberbob and I were the only ops managing A/VB or any other admin pages. Now, we are (imo) a much better team and all of them have a great presence and work hard for the members, so the need to go over the top with rhetoric and arguing isn't as imperative now, especially since the wiki has been so drama free in the last month or so.
From the sysop side I still follow protocol and respect the rules in place and I don't want to leave UDWiki, op or otherwise. In the end though, any real behavioural issues on UDWiki just culminated from IRL circumstances and hopefully it's just a phase. -- LEMON #1 07:36, 15 September 2010 (BST)
Well, here's to your recovery then. I had the luxury of a forced departure (twice now) of RL more or less demanding my absolute presence, so I suppose that's why I can still come back here and want to be productive without necessarily Grimish (I think you know what I mean by that).
You know, a while ago...a long time ago, when I was actually actively helping out here and really trying to be a better wiki-person, I gave thought to app'ing for sysop. I looked at the existing crew, looked at their postings as early as I could go back and compared them to their then-present ones. I realized that the difference mimic'd the difference I see in the LARP community among organizers. Namely: LARPer -> Organizer -> Eager -> Helpful -> HELPFUL -> Wise -> Opinionated -> Protective -> Vindictive -> Jaded -> Ex-LARPer. Since I had just reached the jaded phase with that, I figured that going back over that path with UD would mean that I wouldn't ever want to come back. Which would be sad, I think, since I do like the RRF's people. They tend, IMO, to be pretty fun and enjoyable as a web-group, and to walk away from UD would have to have me leaving them permanently. So I didn't app, which in hindsight, was for the best.
Have you thought about pulling away, yourself, now that the team is in your opinion, stable? Taking a six month break from UD to get RL sorted, maybe? -Wulfenbach 07:51, 15 September 2010 (BST)
I tried, I still found myself coming back daily for bugging the sysops for the small jobs I didn't think they did right, plus I was still spending just as much time here anyway so I was put back up to be sysop. I think behaviour like that indicates that I still wanted to be around the place, and now I'm more involved in the actual game than I have been in two years, so it's a weird situation at the moment for me to be in. Since I'm still convinced it's a phase, I'm just going to linger around doing the chores and helping out and being a bug to guys like you before something breaks on the wiki's side or mine ;D -- LEMON #1 08:01, 15 September 2010 (BST)
See, that's the real infection here. It's not Necrotech fuckupery, it's this damn game. We need to find Kevan and get trenchie on this ass. Headshot RL for me, will he? >:D -Wulfenbach 09:31, 15 September 2010 (BST)
Lol! I still bitterly hate how he created an entire universe inside a wiki for me to be so heavily enthralled :( -- LEMON #1 12:38, 15 September 2010 (BST)

User page rights

Right, on my user and talk pages, the use of the click template (The one in Mis' sig and your old one) essentially destroys the page by making a massive white space at the bottom of the page. Do I therefore have the right to replace people's signatures with the {{usr}} template? I wanted to have a check before I did anything.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:26, 15 September 2010 (BST)

It technically is your own page. You could edit whatever you see fit. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 18:28, 15 September 2010 (BST)
Its your page, as long as you don't alter what they have said, and make it clear they said it, I don't see a problem. I'd probably add a note explaining why though. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:28, 15 September 2010 (BST)
Alright, sounds like a plan. It's just with the recent change to my archive page, it's a little bit essential.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:34, 15 September 2010 (BST)
Also, it should be noted that neither of those sigs actually uses that template, but I would imagine that template would have the same issue anyway. Aichon 18:35, 15 September 2010 (BST)
Its fine. -- LEMON #1 23:28, 15 September 2010 (BST)

I'm Interested in becoming a Sysop

Hey Dance,

We've spoken once or twice on here, and I saw that you are one so i thought it best to ask you. I rather like contributing and helping out on here, and I think I'd like to become a Sysop. I haven't quite been here 2 months, and only have 420 contribs, so not sure I can apply yet...

Anyway, whats involved? Any tips? Red Eyes-Dezonus-Red Eyes (talk) (DI:MD) (Like me to become a Sysop?) 15:23, 16 September 2010 (BST)

Trust me when I say this, I've went through your contribs. What you have so far is not enough to warrant a good SysOps bid. If you really, really want to be a SysOps, start by sulking around the Admin pages more often, cycling news archives and suggestions, etc. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 15:33, 16 September 2010 (BST)
Read this.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 15:52, 16 September 2010 (BST)
We always love having interested users in becoming a Sysop, but first they need to understand the system in which they work. This includes the administration pages like Move Requests, Deletions, Speedy Deletions, and others like Vandal Banning. You have to understand the job you're asking for and we need to be convinced that you do. Besides that, it's always recommended that you know the community well and integrate well with their projects and tasks that try and make the wiki a better information resource. I'm not sure if Yonnua's link to previous advice is specifically the best thing for you to read literally because it's what he may do, but you need to be able to do your own thing on the wiki and still be able to help out in your own ways and with your own opinions. But the intention is the same- you need to exhibit your (obviously) keen interest in the community by involving yourself more in many of the wiki's facets. -- LEMON #1 03:35, 17 September 2010 (BST)
Tip #1, and I don't mean this with any discourtesy or rudeness (really, I honestly don't), but research the answers yourself, rather than asking questions like "what's involved" to become a sysop (the answer is posted on A/PM). Asking questions like that is an immediate signal to all of us that you don't understand the system well enough...yet. Eager folks like you can and do learn the system eventually by reading through the policies, admin pages, and archives, so that shouldn't be a discouragement to you in the least. But sysops are expected (though it's not part of the official job description) to be decently knowledgeable about the way the wiki works, and that means understanding both the bureaucracy and some of the technical stuff better than the average user.
As for other advice, I'd agree with Yonn's suggestion to look for a project. There are always things that need cleaning up around here and discussions to be had where opinions are solicited (e.g. there's talk of an RP List redesign on General Discussion right now, I've been working (very slowly) on rethinking the Suggestions system, there are always ideas on Developing Suggestions in need of thoughtful advice, Ross is working (also slowly) on redesigning the Zombie Skills pages, etc.). Getting involved on the admin pages, especially by expressing your opinion in the proper places (always be sure to do it in the proper places, since doing it in the wrong place is once again a signal to us that you don't yet understand how things work) is also a great way to let us get a feel for how you think and form opinions, which you'll be expected to do regularly as a sysop. Aichon 04:26, 17 September 2010 (BST)
I Thank you all immensely for your help in this matter. I had read through the [A/PM] page, the main thing was that it wasn't quite clear where you apply to, but reading what you guys have written, I'm not quite ready just yet.
As for a project, I wasn't quite sure what somebody who is not a sysop is permitted to do. I've noticed in a few subburbs, the "Suburb Group Listing" and "Active Groups" are very different. South Blythville, for example, has 3 groups in "Suburb Group Listing" and 12 in "Active groups". If I'm allowed to, I would like to follow up with the groups, and remove those inactive off the Active groups. I know similar has been done for Suburb Group listing. Red Eyes-Dezonus-Red Eyes (talk) (DI:MD) (Like me to become a Sysop?) 13:54, 17 September 2010 (BST)

Want to run a contest for the Urban Dead Wiki

i was wondering if i could run a contest on the Urban Dead Wiki. most notably a contest of art. i am look to put an advert for my in-game group on the UD page, via spending ten bucks. i was wondering if i could have a contest to who can come up with the best artwork for said advert. notably a prize of me spending the extra 5 bucks to make that persons in-game character immune to the IP limit seems sufficient enough. what do you think —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nuerotoxic2213 (talkcontribs) at an unknown time.

Sounds good. Just make a page for it and add it onto the Community Announcements page here, so it appears on the main page. From there you will get enough attention to hopefully have the comp succeed. -- LEMON #1 03:28, 17 September 2010 (BST)

i haven't had much of a response yet. is there anything(or anyone) i could contact, or you could contact to maybe spur this thing a bit lol. i don't actually know any of the artists that would patrol this forum Nuerotoxic2213 16:02, 19 September 2010 (BST)

I would suggest making the event page look eye-catching instead of it just being a wall of text. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 00:57, 23 September 2010 (BST)

Days in Urban Dead

Aww man, I'd have liked to see a new one. This isn't because we have gaps is it? Because I can envisage some sort of crazy bot (always the best kind, the crazy sort) that could fill in the gaps. Unless you meant something else?

I want a video dammit! -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 18:00, 18 September 2010 (BST)

^This--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:42, 18 September 2010 (BST)
Mate, if you could do that, then making one more video would really be within my grasp. I have a few harrowing problems that have also come up, the biggest being that it's 80% likely that I don't even have the original 220 images anymore anymore, so I'll have to do my best to trawl through old backups to see if I still have them. Between searching for the backups and the old .avi versions I have I should be able to get a working version of the original 200 days to use. Once I've done that, I'll hit you up and see if you can make a crazy bot to help me get them images. Thanks man. -- LEMON #1 02:30, 19 September 2010 (BST)
Alright, I've lost all the 220 original images and I dont have the original video but I've managed to nab the Youtube FLV that is embedded onto the video page, I should be able to make a more or less functional replacement from that. As for your crazy bot, if you're still keen, we'll need images from April 28th 2008 to whenever you see fit. See, after 200 days I didn't do ANY screencapping so I don't have any single screenshots at all from April 2008. How do you envision the bot will operate? Do you think it's possible when this many screenshots are needed? -- LEMON #1 06:20, 19 September 2010 (BST)
Well I left the bot running today and let it slowly load each revision page, so I've got the info now. Seeing as we need like 700 images, I'll see if I can just have it fake an image that looks like a dangermap so we don't have to take screencaps from the wiki ourselves. I'll post an example if I get it to work. Also, the last purge only seems to have left us with stuff from about September 08, so... yeah. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 17:45, 19 September 2010 (BST)
Horrific time dealing with fonts. Anyway: yesterday's map. The original has nicer anti-aliased text but it's so huge on filesize I'll stick with the plainer one. I'll get around to automating the others at some point. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 11:04, 20 September 2010 (BST)
That should be more than adequate, looks great and shouldn't look any different from the original 200 days. I've thought about the 6 month gap in images we'll have lost by the time this is through, what are your thoughts? Should I start from my old 2007 archive and go straight through to today? Or should we just start straight from Sep 2008 where your collection starts? Advantages of having them both is that that 200 day period had a lot of rich history displayed and there was a fairly significant lack of events for a year and a bit from mid-2008 too. Cons include the fact it's been seen before anyway, and it'd be hard to incorporate them into one another with a 6 month gap. Leaning towards the latter, thoughts? -- LEMON #1 11:23, 20 September 2010 (BST)
I think I'd go for a separate video given the gap. Shame really, because if you combine the wayback machine, manual coverage and current revisions, that gap is pretty much the only big gap is the history. Man if only we had those old revisions. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 11:45, 20 September 2010 (BST)
Yeah. Actually, Suburb/History does have about 20 or so. It covers the process hideously sporadically but if sped up it probably won't look that bad. But I'll see which route should ultimately be taken by trial and error once I get a few images together. -- LEMON #1 12:59, 20 September 2010 (BST)
Well the bots working on it right now, uploading as fast as pngout can compress the things down to size. Once it's done I can zip up the whole set and e-mail them if you like, less hassle than using the wiki for each and every one. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 13:17, 20 September 2010 (BST)
And now would be a bad time to realise that there's a template called "MapDanger" which means all the old "MapVeryDanger" have been mapped wrongly. Fuuuuu - at least the more recent stuff works since the system isn't retarded anymore. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 13:24, 20 September 2010 (BST)
Fuck. Surely no one would mind us recreating it ;D. As for the emailing option, sounds much better than doing ti via wiki. I'll email you just now so you can grab my email without me later having to go through the future hassle of eradicating my email from google search indexes. -- LEMON #1 13:26, 20 September 2010 (BST)
Actually, simple redirection to the new ones could suffice... right? -- LEMON #1 13:27, 20 September 2010 (BST)
Oh no, it's my fault, not the wiki's :P. Anytime a "VeryDanger" was the status in a revision it got recorded as orange not red because I didn't know of the clash. It resulted in some very orange maps as you can tell. I'll have to rebuild the revision history so that'll take the better part of a day. Gives me a chance to poke around the old templates though, that's good fun. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 13:43, 20 September 2010 (BST)
No worries. -- LEMON #1 13:58, 20 September 2010 (BST)

E-mail sent. Expecting great things...great things. Actually, just a video without the crappy film grain would rock.

Also, Hilter Joins Escape - Ahahahaha, awesome. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 06:50, 22 September 2010 (BST)

Omg I know, classic. Anyways, now begins the task of putting them all into an animation. While I'm here, check out how Vegas makes the images appear when they are crushed together:
It's 2 year UD Map art! -- LEMON #1 08:04, 22 September 2010 (BST)
That's cool, that gives me an idea, a graph showing the total amount of each danger level over time. Hey you could even roll it onto the relative graph on SZI. ...I need to update that graph too! -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 08:08, 22 September 2010 (BST)

Can I run a small scale Suburb Massacre?

Hey there,

So I'm asking you, because I'm not sure whether I'd be allowed to or not, and I also get the impression certain other sysops don't like me...

I'm thinking of running a small scale Suburb Massacre, of a 1 suburb radius around South Blythville, covering "Suburb Group Listing" and "Active Groups" (In suburbs that have that further down in their page)

Can I do it? Red Eyes-Dezonus-Red Eyes (talk) (DI:MD) (Like me to become a Sysop?) 01:56, 19 September 2010 (BST)

Yes, I recommend it. Those pages that have second group listings further down the page on suburb pages are REALLY out of date and should be cleaned up. You really know what you should do though? Make it a project for the entirety of Malton and see if anyone is willing to help, and IN the project you can just organise and focus on the subrubs you care about but others can do the rest. That way you fix all of malton. That's just a thought, but you are free to do whatever you want from here when it comes to cleaning up suburb pages. -- LEMON #1 02:16, 19 September 2010 (BST)
If you would like to help out? The_Great_Suburb_Group_Massacre/2010-Round_2 Red Eyes-Dezonus-Red Eyes (talk) (DI:MD) (Like me to become a Sysop?) 07:03, 19 September 2010 (BST)

Photo Upload

Hello DDR! Just wanted to know I saw you changing some pages on maps I uploaded. What do I miss when uploading? Where should I put categorising? --DiSm ~ T 09:57, 19 September 2010 (BST)

Hey- A summary of what to do and how to do it is here. Basically, we just have a few categories we use to file all our images under. You'll have already been familiar with Category:Maps and Category:Screenshots as that is what I categorised some of your images as. To do this, just add [[Category:XXXXXXX]] anywhere on the image description.
You don't need to do categorise as you upload- practically no one does, that's why I tend to do it. But if you do it saves us the trouble of doing it later. You're free to choose whether you want to do it or not in the long run, I won't mind either way. -- LEMON #1 11:48, 19 September 2010 (BST)
Give it a go, then ask DDR if you did it right. He knows the system better than most of us, plus I still get flashbacks from the 9000+ images I sorted. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 11:54, 19 September 2010 (BST)


hey whats the deal with your antixx on good pages? some people voted in a manner you didn't like? L2puppet or gtfo. i'll let you explain and revert until i next drop by then i'll avb and let the ops be bullied into letting you get away with it. xoxo 10:13, 20 September 2010 (BST)

fair enough I guess. I'm simply keeping a consistent high standard filter over the voting procedure that Cheese and later I attempted to keep going since the beginning- if RHO is misinformed enough to accidentally cycle it as successful and it's rightfully reverted, that ain't my fault. -- LEMON #1 10:27, 20 September 2010 (BST)

Make mycock a ga and i'll pull some strings to get you into 2CFC.. xoxo 02:34, 21 September 2010 (BST)

But.... [1] -- LEMON #1 02:38, 21 September 2010 (BST)

Ghost Pages...WTF?

What do i do about: 7th_Fallschirmjäger_Div, Fantôme_Tequila_De_Serpents, St D’s Bar & Grill and La_Révolution? Red Eyes-Dezonus-Red Eyes (talk) (DI:MD) (Like me to become a Sysop?) 14:18, 22 September 2010 (BST)

Nothing. They're unrecognisable because of errors in the wiki's code. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:20, 22 September 2010 (BST)
Bring in Max Von Sydow and see what he can do. When I fall, I'll weep for happiness 15:16, 22 September 2010 (BST)
I see dead people @_@ --DiSm ~ T 19:11, 22 September 2010 (BST)
Haha! Yeah, they are weird, huh? They are remnants of pages that have since been deleted, the wiki glitched them up and now they always appear as uncategorised and stuff. There's more documentation on their pages. -- LEMON #1 23:28, 22 September 2010 (BST)

Chick Chick BOOM!

Yeah, uh huh, Thats right, Special:Uncategorizedimages and Special:Uncategorizedpages are cleared (except the Ghost stuff)

For Future reference, using User:Dezonus/Storage as a Copy and paste reference saves lots of time. You're welcome to use it, and welcome to add to it ;) Red Eyes-Dezonus-Red Eyes (talk) (DI:MD) (Like me to become a Sysop?) 10:00, 23 September 2010 (BST)

Nice idea. I know the wiki pretty well, so I won't need to use it, but I'll surely add to it when I find more examples of categories you may need to use. -- LEMON #1 11:36, 23 September 2010 (BST)
Clare Weberdoff or whatever her fucking name was. xoxo 13:22, 23 September 2010 (BST)


i cbf with arbies/whatever over the whole good articles thing. But i hope someone with more energy for this old place picks up the crusade because that system is absolutely fucked! xoxo 13:22, 23 September 2010 (BST)

Just so you know (because I cbf holding such lolarious evidence till an arbies case which won't happen) you kicked up the exact same stink when someone put ALIM up for GA and it was bombed for the exact same reason under the exact same circumstances, you kicked up the exact same stink and cheese gave the exact same answer as i did when this recent thing happened. the only difference was red yesman one wasn't there to cycle it as successful before cheese shat on it. You accepted it without much of a whinge and it was cycled easily. There's also a tonne (ie 90% of cases) where they are cycled as per this precedent, and also many precedents where I noted a conflict of interest between my own vote and my duties at hand and got a neutral party to cycle the proposal for me rather than "vendetta" it myself. It's just the way shit is bro. -- LEMON #1 13:36, 23 September 2010 (BST)
lol thats funny (cbf finding sincey ou didnt link me >: so i'll just assume its true) although iirc (which i probably dont) the difference was i nominated ALiM. I guess this would have passed with ZERO imput from me which made it seem all the more vendettay. THe system is stupid, you more or less admitted it and "its just the way shit is bro" is hardly a great stance to have, espeically about a system that was made up last year. Like i said, ithink its bullshit but don't much care anymore, sighhh i wish i still did. this place was/is an epic timewaster. xoxo 11:41, 3 October 2010 (BST)

Dezonus deems you Awesome.

Thats right, you're ranked No.1 Dezonus' List of Awesome Users. Click here to check it out =) Red Eyes-Dezonus-Red Eyes (talk) (DI:MD) (Like me to become a Sysop?) 03:14, 25 September 2010 (BST)

What? He's more awesome than me? The number one most linked to user? Damn, I must not be working hard enough. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 03:19, 25 September 2010 (BST)
Maybe you're working too hard. :P Aichon 00:24, 26 September 2010 (BST)
no i think you both need to get a life.----sexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png ¯\(Boobs.gif)/¯ 02:49, 26 September 2010 (BST)

Red October update

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Fair enough, good call too IMO. -- LEMON #1 00:45, 27 September 2010 (BST)


Still in it to win it Sir. Soph & I are heading back to the playfield right now in fact and all going to plan, should be there tomorrow, Thursday at the latest. I'll go set up a wee area on the DSS forum just for us All Star celebs to brag up our tactics. Maybe you could use your Wiki Jedi skillz to find out who all our competition are, so we can add to contacts? ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD | 08:42, 28 September 2010 (BST)
Aaaaaabsolutely! You've got me all excited now! Lets do this! -- LEMON #1 08:46, 28 September 2010 (BST)
Forums all set. Go check if you can view it eh? I've not tinkered with this much, more Soph & Zipos domain, so i hope I haven't broke it. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD | 09:08, 28 September 2010 (BST)
DOOOOOOOD!!! Get your arse over to the DSS forum to confirm you can see our sekrit hideout. Tongue.gif ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD | 13:51, 30 September 2010 (BST)
OMG THIS SHIT IS AWESOEM -- LEMON #1 15:38, 30 September 2010 (BST)
Yah. How can we possibly not win? Cig.gif ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD | 16:03, 30 September 2010 (BST)

I love your face.

And you know it.x --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:35, 29 September 2010 (BST)

my face da best <3 -- LEMON #1 13:35, 29 September 2010 (BST)

Is there normally more to Categorize?

Hey Dance,

Listen, I'm just wondering, is there usually more pages and images to categorize than this? Like, when you gave the job to me, I got the impression that I wouldn't be able to keep up, but now it seems more like the posters can't keep up with me...? Red Eyes-Dezonus-Red Eyes (talk) (DI:MD) (Like me to become a Sysop?) 10:22, 2 October 2010 (BST)

Nah, usually that's about it. When you started there was like a months worth of uncategorised images, so the workload was hard at first but nowadays it's more just a 10-minutes-a-day thing. -- LEMON #1 01:40, 3 October 2010 (BST)

I came up with an Idea, but need your input

I thought it would be cool if we had a wiki User of the Month Competition. Now, this would probably have to be run by Sysops, so, I'm Asking for your input here. And dont worry, I've asked the other Sysops too.

Red Eyes-Dezonus-Red Eyes (talk) (DI:MD) (Like me to become a Sysop?) 14:55, 2 October 2010 (BST)

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