Suggestion:20070905 *Click* *Whack* Pistol Whip and Rifle Stock attacks (Mk. 2)

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20070905 *Click* *Whack* Pistol Whip and Rifle Stock attacks (Mk. 2)

Medico 05:05, 5 September 2007 (BST)

Suggestion type
Weapon and Skill addition Suggestion scope
Survivors Suggestion description
Well, some of the votes from before said change damage, hit percentage and a few other things, so I thought I might re-submit a new one.

Hitting with the Pistol will produce a 1 damage attack, and striking with the butt of your shotgun will cause a 2 damage attack. Hit percentages would be 10 percent lower than the Knife and Fire-axe (40% hit with pistol and 30% with rifle) and would be affected by the Melee training skill. Skills could also be attached for the general firearm melee, (+15% on pistol and +5% on shotgun). This should not be confused with a 55% CTH on the pistol and 45% CTH on the shotgun, but instead to say they both start on 10% accuracy with the pistol going up 15% with Melee training and a further 15% with Firearm Melee training (a sub-category of melee, like knife or axe proficiency) and the shotgun +15% with Basic Melee and +5% with Firearm Melee.

Upon striking there would also be a 15% chance of your gun breaking. I know it sounds like a fair bit, but it’s not too high (like a hit percentage) and not too low (because it’s still got a fair chance of breaking). The use of this skill would basically be restricted to a mall or fort siege when the zmobies have broken through and you become desperate to force them out. Your weapon might be out of ammo, the zed with a mere 2 health, and a pair of hits with your pistol could eliminate them (if there is no knife or axe in your inventory.)

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Keep Votes

1. - Author Vote --Medico 05:05, 5 September 2007 (BST)
2. - I know everyone butchering this, but I like it. --Sonofagun18 06:09, 6 September 2007 (BST)
3. Keep/Change- Hey, I was always wondering why you couldn't whack zombies with a shotgun lol.. but the Pistol Whip is highly impractical. --Vkkhamul 03:07, 20 September 2007 (BST)

Kill Votes

1. Mainly, just make it so the gun doesn't break, I mean, what are the zombies made of? -Thragnor 04:53, 13 September 2007 (BST)
2. Already Exists - Try attacking with an ammoless gun to see what I mean.--Karek^maps?! 06:23, 5 September 2007 (BST)

   Tried that. Wait a second.. I can't?! It doesn't show up on the attack drop down box. Well duh, since you're outta ammo.. --Vkkhamul 03:07, 20 September 2007 (BST)

3. Nope - See The big K for my response. BoboTalkClown 20:30, 5 September 2007 (BST)

Spam/Dupe Votes

1. Spam spam spam beans and spam The attack is useless, even without the weapon breaking.Studoku 15:09, 5 September 2007 (BST)
2. WTFCentaurs - *Click* *Whack* Spam vote --Sonny Corleone ^{RRF DORIS CRF pr0n} 20:33, 5 September 2007 (BST)
3. This looks humorous... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 20:34, 5 September 2007 (BST)
4. OMGWTFUNICORNS! - Why aren't you carrying an axe and/or knife anyway? Don't have enough encumbrance? Drop your eleventh shotgun and your 3rd generator. --Steakfish 01:26, 6 September 2007 (BST)
5. Spam Nerfs melee weapons. Beyond that, I don't understand the math.--Pesatyel 02:46, 6 September 2007 (BST)
6. DUPE - http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Suggestions/24th-Nov-2005#bludgeoning_with_guns and I don't know if it was you that suggested the other one and I duped it or not.BUT STILL DUPE!!!Chill 04:16, 6 September 2007 (BST)
7. spam - this is spam for the opposite reason i usually vote spam: so underpowered as to be useless... no one would ever use this attack when they could use a knife. --WanYao 07:35, 6 September 2007 (BST)
8. Dupe -Link is close enough.-- Vista  +1  11:48, 6 September 2007 (BST)
9. Dupe --The Grimch ^U! 12:39, 6 September 2007 (BST)
10. Dupe --Cyberbob ^{DORIS CGR U!} 12:40, 6 September 2007 (BST)
11. Dupe Again - Medico made a very similar suggestion a couple of weeks ago. It got removed as a dupe of the suggestion Chill linked to. Although slightly revised, this suggestion has the same core mechanics and is thus still a dupe. -- Pavluk 13:31, 6 September 2007 (BST)
12. Screw it. I'm not giving a reason for the rest of my votes in this spree.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 17:38, 9 September 2007 (BST)
13. As SA.--Seventythree 14:22, 15 September 2007 (BST)