Suggestion:20080725 Sub Machine Gun

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20080725 Sub Machine Gun

Heroic beater at 14:30, 25 July 2008 (BST)

Suggestion type
New Firearm.

Suggestion scope
Survivor only.

Suggestion description

• This suggestion aims to creating a new firearm for survivors.
• SMG has 30 bullets each clip. Bullets will be calculated by clips. Each attack will automatically produce 5 shot. Each shot will have 10 percentages to hit (without any skills) the enemy and deal 2 damages(1 against a flak jacket).
• With basic firearms training, the accuracy is 35 percentages. I suggest some new skills for military tree:
  • Basic Firearms Training
    • SMG Training: An extra +25% to hit with a SMG.
      • SMG accuracy training: An extra 10% to hit.
      • SMG fire rate training: SMG produces +1 shot per attack(get to 6).
• Make "SMG" and "SMG clip" harder to find at PD , because police don't use SMG ^^! This can be found at Armoury and Mall Gun Stores at the same chance as other firearms.
  • SMG: Mall Gun Stores (4%/6%), Armories (3%), Police Departments (1%)
  • SMG clips: Mall Gun Stores (8%/11%), Armories (8%), Police Departments (4%)
• Encumbrance: 5%

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Keep Votes

1. Keep - People say I don't vote Keep often enough. I'll show them! -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 20:57, 25 July 2008 (BST)

Kill Votes

1. Kill - This is an urban area. We're not likely to have tons of these things there. --Pgunn 19:50, 25 July 2008 (BST)
2. Kill - There is two forts and a bunch of soldiers around here. SMG presence is possible. But news weapons could unbalance game. And this weapon is too great. -- Bug MacLock 20:18, 25 July 2008 (BST)

Spam/Dupe Votes

1. Spam - You are a complete and utter idiot. The frequently suggested and Do's and Do nots are there for a reason, way to ignore them genius. Anyway, onto the suggestion at hand, with my magic pre generated anti gun suggestion vote (Yes, they come up that fucking often): Ive said it before, and ill say it again. Adding a new firearm to the game results in one of two things happening: A net survivor buff, or a newbie survivor nerf. How? It all comes down to find rates. If you simply put a new weapon and ammunition on top of the existing find rates, you increase survivor power because they can find weapons and ammunition more easily, which makes them overall more powerful as they dont need to search as much to find ammunition and weaponry, especially if they have all the gun skills, which will happen sooner, rather than later. On the other hand, if you reduce the find rates for everything else gunlike, you nerf newbies who will have a harder time finding weapons and ammunition that meet their specific skill set. Also, overall, you nerf those weapons pretty hard too for everyone, since ammunition is harder to find. There is no way to impliment any new firearm without doing either of the previous, and cockup the pretty good balance for guns in the game. It simply cannot be done. --The Grimch ^{U! E!} 15:26, 25 July 2008 (BST)
2. Spam - As Grim. --Midianian^{|T|T:S|C:RCS|} 15:31, 25 July 2008 (BST)
3. Spam - You're kidding me. ~Ariedartin • Talk • A KS J abt all 15:51, 25 July 2008 (BST)
4. Spam - As Midianian. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 15:52, 25 July 2008 (BST)
5. Spam - I'm now almost convinced this latest rash of completely fucking spamolicious suggestions is the latest SA Goon plot to fuck wik teh weekee. If it's not... then it's time to rethink bringing back eugenics... --WanYao 16:55, 25 July 2008 (BST)

   wat --Ocular ^Druuuuu 17:44, 25 July 2008 (BST) Unjustified vote struck. --Midianian^{|T|T:S|C:RCS|} 21:37, 25 July 2008 (BST)

6. Spam - as above. --Sir Bob Fortune ^RR 17:52, 25 July 2008 (BST)
7. Spam-Grim said it.--Themonkeyman11 17:58, 25 July 2008 (BST)
8. Auto-Spam - As grim, but with more swearing.  Billy Club Thorton  T!  RR  18:08, 25 July 2008 (BST)
9. spam grenade - as all above. why would you post this? -- Jack ^{S13 T! PC} 18:52, 25 July 2008 (BST)
10. Spam - Your suggestion is bad and you should feel bad! --Zombie in Pajamas 20:20, 25 July 2008 (BST)
11. Dupe - Please don't make me search for it, one look at the "Peer Reviewed/Rejected" section should be enough. --Private Mark 20:28, 25 July 2008 (BST)
12. AUTOSPAM - Frequently Suggested says no. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 21:03, 25 July 2008 (BST)