User talk:Crabappleslegalteam

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Request for further services

Please also represent me in the future. I'm sick of all this. Er, I'm sure my private estates will cover the amount--Harald von Holzapfel 17:16, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Crabapple and Escaped mental patients pages

You and Elias Taylor clearly disagree about what should be on these pages. If this is serious, you might consider taking it to arbitration instead of undoing each others' changes several times a day. Paul Brunner 21:49, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

That is probably an extremely good idea. We'll probably try and get round to it in the next couple of days.

Arbitration

We are sick of reading your crap. You and Elias Taylor are strongly suggested to accept arbitration and end this pathetic edit wars that's been going on. -Certified=Insane^☭ 01:59, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Certified=Insane, we only published crap to counteract the crap of Elias. We've gone for arbitration, but obviously we don't want you to arbitrate because of your associations with MAF. Apologies - Thecrabapplelegalteam

The edit war

Your Crabapples started this mess. We put guidelines up to help protect people. Not to start a war with crabs. They openly attacked our guidelines set up to protect people. If they werent so bent out of shape on trying to rule the suburb by dictatorship, there wouldnt be any conflict what so ever. Fireplay259

Lets see... "Your Crabapples started this mess" thats a lie... "We put guidelines up to help protect people" a joke or a lie "Not to start a war with crabs" no, the MAF have done that several times already, and you yourself have murdered the illustrious Lord for standing up to you and the other bullys - no, this action is set up to give you excuses to do what you want and attack people who do what you don't want - especially the illustrious Crabapple Estate "If they werent so bent out of shape on trying to rule the suburb by dictatorship" laughably untrue - you have just put a load of lies on the wiki declaring yourselves the only active groups in a suburb with several active groups, and declared rules to serve yourselves and determined everybody must live by them! What a hypocritical fascist! "there wouldnt be any conflict what so ever" no, if everybody rolled over and let you Stalinist psychos march all over them, we're sure everything would be fine :-)

You fucking tight ass jewy faggots. We have only done retailation for what your goddamned memebers have done to us. Ivanatinkled tried to start a civil war between IUSS and the MAF and if you think i created your spot on the suburb map as open. It was not me it was another memeber. I honestly tried to but couldn't figure out how. THe god honest truth, you can even check the history yourself, and how can you make sure accusations if YOU ARE NOT EVEN IN THE SUBURB. We are ONLY TRYING TO STORE ORDER SO THAT PEOPLE LIKE YOU DONT START CONFLICTS. COWARDS. Yes we are trying to take you out of power, why because you have started problems ever since you've been here. We however have done so much, we've recuited many members set up reviviacation points along with medical corps. What have you done drink tea with your faggy members. As I swear by the god honest truth those laws were made to prevent peace. My talks with you are over, I will simply ignore your messages and any thing you say. But god and the devil help me, if you so dare cross me I shall annilate you from existance.

"fucking tight ass jewy faggots" well well well! Finally, a member of the IUSS/MAF displays their true Nazi colours! Don't bother talking to us again - and we thought you were at least were above the level of bacteria that Elias was at... an so excellently quotable! any more of your Nazi rubbish on this page will be deleted. Don't bother talking to us again, you worthless NAZI

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from the history page itself, im done with you

Good! But the post is interesting. And actually, we'll leave this on the page --Crabappleslegalteam 01:42, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Protection?

Do I need to protect the West Boundwood page?--Gage 03:02, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Preferably not... there are several unaligned people doing odd things like, reporting on the current state of affairs between survivors and zombies... we reckon the IUSS and MAF will quieten down now, so so will we. But thanks for the offer! If things get silly again, we'll let you know if you want... thanks again!

- Crabapple legal team -

Can you please sign your posts? Just put ~~~~ right after your posts on the same line and the wiki software will make that a signature and timestamp. Try to do it right now in a response to me, okay?--Gage 03:35, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Not so easy, given that this computer doesn't seem to allow the function buttons on the top of the wiki! We end up cutting, pasting and editing... oh, by the way, it IS possible Fireplay may do some dodgy stuff, if his above post is anything to go by --Crabappleslegalteam 04:26, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

I just fixed your signature.--Gage 04:30, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh dear... of coure it works like everything else.... are we thick or what?!? Thanks..Crabappleslegalteam 21:06, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Law's for boundwood.

I just want to say that the law's for boundwood were actually guidelines, i know it's not a major poitn, i don't want a debate about how good/bad they were, i just want them portrayed truthly, instead of being portrayed as set in stone.(the iuss wanted them to be felxible to allow for reasonable work inside them. Captain Pasty 21:00 25 November 2006.

No, thats all fair enough - we dont want to have a major discussion about the actual content of the rules either, really, and we've said enough for now. Its not our place to attempt to negociate any treaty - we're essentially just here to ensure unfair practice in general against the Crabapples is defended against, such as the initial deletion of the Crabapple refutations, and the implication that the IUSS/MAF are in such a position of power in the suburb to be able to dictate terms. Everything else was extra, and was the legal teams opinion.Crabappleslegalteam 21:28, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Fireplay's Statements

Fireplay's statements do not represent the opinions of the I.U.S.S. or any of its members excepting Fireplay. However Fireplay will not be punished or reprimanded in any way. Free speech is part of I.U.S.S. Law, as such Fireplay is free to hold such opinions incorrect and immoral as they are. Just as Crabapple and his group are able to hold the opinion that the I.U.S.S. is a "Stalinist authoritarian" group, incorrect and misguided as they are. Furthermore I do not believe that Fireplay is homophobic nor racist but rather that he responded while angry and without thinking as a result of the conflict on the wiki between Crabapple, MAF and the I.U.S.S. Kripcat - ^I.U.S.S 11:13, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough - however, where we come from anybody cheerfully expousing racist and homophobic abuse would get kicked out of any organization they were in, reprimanded in their job, and probably be breaking various laws - still, you can run your organization anyway you want - and we don't think 'being angry' is any excuse for such language. We won't pursue it further, at the moment anyway Crabappleslegalteam 21:28, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

West Boundwood Background story

I'll agree to help with the background story, I may not totally love working with Crabapples and I'm sure you feel the same, but I'll agree to put aside our differences to help edit the background story. I mean not to be offensive, but I truely loved that story it added some good background drama to the suburb and I'd pat the back of whoever created it, whom I believe it was Kripcat, but not sure though. Fireplay259

Hmmm... well, we can see Gages suspicions.... any new one will have to be very NPOV. we'll put something on the West Boundwood discussion page in a few minutes Crabappleslegalteam 01:51, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm sick of reading your insults stay off my page please, unless you can refrain form insulting me or you will be reported--Lorosidiotas 20:45, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Having supported Elias's saddo communist propaganda campaign, and come up with more insults than a little boys party - what can we say? Kettle? Black? Pot? --Crabappleslegalteam 11:17, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Quit it

Quit with the POV bullshit on the West Boundwood page. Do it again, and I lock the page.--Gage 02:21, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

If you look at the history, you will see this is clearly unfair. Lorisdontas started putting a whole host of rubbish about Crabapple warlordism, false PK claims, false claims of declarations of war from The Crabapples against the IUSS, very POV posts about thuggery etc. etc. The suspected sockpuppet/false flag Pking is a serious investigation, and MAF have succeeded in getting it drowned out. Thankyou very much --Crabappleslegalteam 13:40, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

We calmed down a bit and replied on Gages page.--Crabappleslegalteam 00:56, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

...which failed. So much for moderation! No bonuses this month.... --Crabappleslegalteam 00:59, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

What did you call me?

I have no affiliation with any communist groups in the Boundwood area, and the effect I was going for with Durston Walk School was one mentioning the history of the area. If you feel it is too slanted, feel free to rewrite the "Place of Dreams" part, and then remove the propaganda tag along with your offensive "nightmare" part. I will not be accused of being sexually harassed, filth, or be called a 'milk maid'. So watch it, Mr. Lawyer.--Lachryma^☭ 16:22, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

OK! Since the permission is granted, we will - if you don't want retaliation, don't start involving yourself in the kind of dodgy history rewrites the communists have used previously against the Crabapples. If you have no affiliation, don't start bringing up bad blood! This has been a major headache in the past, so don't add to it. --Crabappleslegalteam 21:06, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

It looks lovely now. Sorry for any trouble!--Lachryma^☭ 21:18, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Phew! Thats polite - we almost feel guilty....--Crabappleslegalteam 21:19, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Drama is bad for my health, especially other groups' drama. I wanted to talk about the conflict in the Boundwood area, but I did it too much from the commies' perspective. And it's just a location page.--Lachryma^☭ 21:22, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, we're a bit sensitive to this kind of thing - a quick glance up our talk page should show why. As far as the Crabapples are concerned, they do not want some invented past history turning up justifying what they (and we) would argue has been an unjustified and sustained campaign of violence against them for maintaining sovereignty over their estate. Seriously, its best avoided.... and Drama is most certainly bad for our currently rather fragile health (aaargh! We've been infected!) --Crabappleslegalteam 21:28, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I've seen some of that stuff. Sorry. I guess having nothing to do with something can have bad consequences...Well, you won't see me messing with Boundwood stuff now!--Lachryma^☭ 21:34, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! ACHOO! Now if you could just pass the brandy....--Crabappleslegalteam 01:36, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Your User Name

Made me laugh. Thanks. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 09:08, 1 July 2007 (BST)

We aim to please! Well, usually for good hard cash --Crabappleslegalteam 12:19, 6 July 2007 (BST)

Shuttlebank group deletion revert

Thanks for that. Thought about doing it myself, but am so tired of fighting battles against Sonny-Karek. --Barbecue Barbecue 20:25, 7 September 2007 (BST)

Zombie Bullshit

Quite annoying to see on the wiki, I agree. Atleast we keep our propaganda (mostly) IG. And our wiki propaganda are pretty much simply true statements that make us look good or our ennemies look bad... What they do is borderline lie, manipulate facts. -Certified=Insane^☭ 00:59, 11 September 2007 (BST)

It's got to be said - we've never seen such rampant and widespread cobblers on the wiki. We're talking about 30 suburbs here! We're not even bothering challenging the news section and danger levels. Bring back Gage et al. - this kind of stuff would just not have been got away with a few months ago.--Crabappleslegalteam 01:09, 11 September 2007 (BST)

More false accusations from fascist MAF thrilling internet arguing! with Blackboard

A few things. Legally speaking, 'The Pearl Arms' is a public house, and therefore your prohibition against 'trespassing' is, indeed, hostile. Claiming ownership is one thing, as documentation may indeed reveal the Crabapple estate to be in legal possession of 'The Pearl Arms' (henceforth 'PA'); however, until such a time that Malton has recovered and is able to hold proper judicial proceedings, its state of martial law strips citizens of many their statutory rights, including claims on private ownership. Eventually, once the city has recovered sufficiently, the Crabapple Estate may have the opportunity to assert their ownership of 'PA'. Once this has been established, if it is to be converted from a public house to a private residence, the area must be re-zoned to accommodate a residential building and an appropriate renaming must follow on the map. Until the aforementioned parameters have been met, 'PA' has been, and remains, a public house with no legitimate claims of ownership recognized. As a result, the attempts of the Crabapple Estate forcibly to occupy 'PA' and surrounding buildings are both hostile and legally unjustifiable. Crabapple Estate will therefore be considered hostile until it disclaims private ownership of the building(s) and, as an act of good faith, agrees to take down any hostile writing within 'PA' and any other buildings it claims responsibility for/custodianship of. This includes, but is not limited to, references to trespassing.

Feel free to make complaints and/or redefine 'hostile' to suit your own parameters. In the meantime, we can keep switching it back and forth if you prefer.

You will also notice that I didn't attempt to change the M(A)F categorization. Mutual hostility is hostility nonetheless. Let's not pretend you don't have an axe to grind here. Until some common ground can be agreed upon, the categorization stands.

Further, I am not a proxy account, nor am I a communist. Also, you spelled 'on' wrong. It's a tricky word, I know.

Posted on 30th July 2008 at about half 3, by Blackboard.

Yeah, yeah - what's that smell? Off wine? Oh no, it's sour grapes! Not one of the communists' proxies?!? Pull the other one, it's got bells on! You can't even pretend to talk like someone who's not been brainwashed into livid marxism when you try, which you are!--Crabappleslegalteam 01:00, 31 July 2008 (BST)

Good one - the whole off wine/sour grapes thing really threw me. I mean really. I'm having trouble recovering from that. God, what were we even talking about?? Hmm, no, I think it's the syntax there which threw me. I am trying [to talk like someone brainwashed] or am I, in fact, brainwashed? Please elaborate. At any rate, I am not now, nor have I ever been, a Marxist. I believe that communism has its merits, as do both anarchism and fascism. However. In the current context (i.e. a universally hostile, central-authority-free environment), the most appropriate model for positive interaction is one which provides for an ability to cooperate, give mutual aid, and also operate autonomously - incidentally, a model most closely excogitated by anarchism - or, if you want to put a finer point on it - syndicalism. Still, this fails to address the issue. Your group is patently hostile. Dispense with the name-calling. Argue to the contrary.

Posted on 31st July 2008, in the wee hours of the morning, by Blackboard.

zzzzzzz..... finished yet? You're clearly a member of MAF, or one of the other leftie groups. How did we figure it out? The only groups the Crabapples have had violent conflicts with, other than pure pker groups and zombies, are MAF and their sockpuppets! And only ever in reaction to widescale assaults (and yes, you did start it) from the same, who keep declaring war on the Crabapples. So, if you're going on about getting kicked out of Crabapple manor, you're clearly one of the lefties who keep murdering the illustrious family, then claiming they've started a war with you!!!

We've seen the Anarchist FAQ, wherein anarchy is redefined as some communist thing. This Fascism thing, however, is new honesty! If only you'd admit you're just a member of MAF (or whatever) trying a sad new angle on the same old rubbish....--Crabappleslegalteam 21:37, 31 July 2008 (BST)

Well, you've hit upon a few things here.

Hostility isn't necessarily violent; however, you yourself admit to violent conflicts, particularly with the MAF. So we've established a history of mutual hostility there. It is my understanding that these hostilities had resolved themselves. However, in moving the MAF to the "hostile" groups section, I saw it as an indication of rekindling those hostilities. As these are mutual hostilities, it seemed only fitting that the Crabapples be moved there as well.

Secondly, anarchy has nothing to do with communism; however, there are "anarcho-communists" and a variety of other political philosophies with which anarchy is blended. The underlying idea is essentially that people can govern themselves free of any central authority; it does not mean "no rules" but rather the lack of a central authority - it relies on personal responsibility and mutual cooperation. If you're really curious, there's a more exhaustive explanation here - or just wikipedia it. You mentioned Marxism before; however, the very Marxist idea of a temporary totalitarian authority is directly counter to the idea of anarchy. Fascism is probably about as diametrically opposed to anarchy as you can get. Do some research - for example, look at groups who opposed the Nazis and the fascists in Italy and Spain.

So, I don't know if this is actually helpful, so let's just drop the whole thing, shall we? We'll keep the Crabapples and the MAF in the "plays nice with others" category, and get on with our lives. Big hug. Yes, that's right, there's an olive branch coming at you from the left side there. Like what I did there? The play on words? Yeah, I'm hilarious. Keep your tags, but if I'm stuck for a place to hole up, I'm dropping in. And if you need ammo, or if you want to come kill me, I'll be hanging out up in Train Row Police Department. --Blackboard 23:32, 31 July 2008 (BST)

zzzzzzzz..... thank God for that - we thought he/she/it'd never shut up! How far up his/her/its own arse is it possible for someone to disappear?--Crabappleslegalteam 00:59, 1 August 2008 (BST)

Indeed. Blackboard 02:57, 1 August 2008 (BST)

Yup, that sounded appropriately muffled....--Crabappleslegalteam 00:22, 4 August 2008 (BST)

Hmmmm, pot calling the kettle black, eh? Though admittedly I do understand your need to have the last word. I did sort of shred you, huh. It's ok, just call me a commie down there, or a fascist - whichever you think has a better ring to it. It can be like David Bowie in Extras. Blackboard 03:35, 4 August 2008 (BST)

Or like the emperor with his new clothes - exactly how you think you shredded us, given that we got what we wanted is beyond us.....still! So long as you're happy, in your wibbly wobbly propaganda world, where you probably wouldn't know the truth if if it kicked you up the arse....or in the face, we're guessing it's all the same!--Crabappleslegalteam 00:37, 5 August 2008 (BST)

Hahaha - maxor lolcatz - arse for a face (what are you, 12)?? Still, I digress. Yessssssssss! Flame war!! Shall we keep it going, make-believe group of make-believe lawyers for make-believe video game characters? Because... you smell! Blackboard 12:41, 5 August 2008 (BST)

Well, you see thats the weird thing about playing a roleplaying game - make-believe? You left-wing extremists can't seem to figure that out - entertainment, leisure etc..... anyway, we'll save the major insults for your own sorry excuse of a talkpage--Crabappleslegalteam 00:07, 6 August 2008 (BST)

Henceforth, if you want to continue this prattle, we can continue it on your talkpage - you're not worth the coverage here! Until there's something new in game to talk about, we don't want you taking up any more time here--Crabappleslegalteam 00:35, 6 August 2008 (BST)

(further waffle deleted)--Crabappleslegalteam 21:46, 6 August 2008 (BST)

Warning

Please do not impersonate other users on the wiki by changing their headers on pages as you did above. If you continue this behaviour you will have your editing privileges revoked. -- Cheese 01:00, 1 August 2008 (BST)

This is a joke, right? We'll go to your user page...--Crabappleslegalteam 01:14, 1 August 2008 (BST)

Nope. This is serious. You committed vandalism by changing the user's original header making it seem like it was them that put it there. And what would you intend to do on my user page? -- Cheese 01:21, 1 August 2008 (BST)

We've just appealed to your better nature - if you're expecting vandalism, we think you're seeing red when there's only, er, pink--Crabappleslegalteam 01:28, 1 August 2008 (BST)