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November 2010

User:Hermann von Teutoburg & User:Hermann von Teutoburg2

Similar political alignment is not proof that they're the same person. --VVV ^RPMBG 03:47, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

The staunch refusal to give up proxy IP addresses is a bit of a giveaway, however, as was the fact that they invented new reasons to not give it up when their old ones were torn down, their similar m.o. to Corn in terms of what they did in-game and on the wiki, the similar way they argued with the sysops, the blatant username reference to another known vandal alt of Corn's, etc.. Also, Ross didn't jump the gun, as your edit comment suggests. Mis, myself, Ross, and Yonn were all in agreement on the outcome, so the case was closed. —Aichon— 04:58, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Saying a neo nazi uses rhetoric as an MO, and a username of an old nazi as evidence towards saying he's another nazi is akin to saying one canadian user is the same as a permabanned canadian cause he says "ey" at the end of the odd sentence. Nazis use rhetoric, we get it, nazis use the names of old historical figures, we get it. when me and the BBK all made nazi accounts we had them all, Georing, Hitler, Speer even lols like Bismarck. Even we did it and we were taking the piss. It isn't new, and it definitely doesn't prove anything. -- LEMON #1 07:16, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

As for arguing with the sysops, this guy actually engaged with us and communicated with us. There was no communication with us and Cornholioo. Corn didn't listen to what we said and just spouted anti jewish horseshit, this guy seems completely different, which isn't to say he isn't corn (if he turns out to be I'll happily admit I was wrong) but this is a dumb thing to do when it's so far against policy it isn't funny, and is against someone who uses proxys at will (i support fighting the hard fight against proxy abusers when it's just but it isn't really so much here). -- LEMON #1 07:19, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

User:Misanthropy

^▲Summary of the whole A/VB and preceeding A/A case, in case you can't be bothered to read it. -- Spiderzed▋ 22:20, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

I understand the irony, but don't make it excessively large. Fixed. --Thadeous Oakley 13:23, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

The size was part of the summary. Although seeing it resized probably adds to it. -- Spiderzed▋ 17:33, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Lol. Yeah, I understand like I said, but it was annoying to see it fill up the screen.--Thadeous Oakley 17:53, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Btw, which movie is that screen from? It's disturbing. --Thadeous Oakley 17:54, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

It's the Engineer beast from Hellraiser. -- Spiderzed▋ 18:59, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I catched a nasty cold and my head is spinning so I'll keep it brief. This entire thing is stupid, mainly because of the trivial nature of the edit in question, which is why I wouldn't have bothered myself with a vandal case. On the other hand, it's clear the arbitration case hasn't really resolved anything, with other users (including myself) not being happy with the barebones ruling, that isn't even a real ruling. Handling this now through A/VB is quicker. For the record, this isn't vandalism in case of Misanthropy acting in bad-faith, in fact any escalation would be over the top. It's just that this image spam shouldn't be encouraged. Also Ross was right, probably about me too.

Ross said:

Your all massive tards

--Thadeous Oakley 18:52, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

You aren't the messiah, please use the talk page for your opinions from now on. -- LEMON #1 23:51, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

And if you want to quote me, please do it accurately, and with correct spelling. You massive tard.--Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 14:19, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

I knowz. --Thadeous Oakley 14:45, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

You, Yon and Thad? Since forever, in case you haven't paid any attention. And it's seriously not without grounds. How is an A/A and a VB case over something entirely fucking trivial not unjustly excessive or entirely uncalled for? And you're wrong simply because this just plain is not a fucking vandal affair, nor is it even justifiable to edit my comments on any page without the kind of due reason you're entirely lacking. Image breaks no fucking rules whatsoever, but you've seen fit to twice bring up drama over it for no fucking reason. 01:26, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Not quite forever. There have been better times. Too be perfectly honest, no, I'm not a fan of your more recent works however. How you handled yourself with Umbrella was just really, really dumb. You got a misconduct escalation out of it, and your joke group you wanted so badly to be taken serious was beyond reality as well. This wasn't just my opinion, or Yonn's. Ever since then, things have been bad. I don't like this hostile situation anymore then you do. As for this case, it's not like I want to see you hang, more like this is yet another over-dramatized trivial dispute which your partly responsible for(as am I, unfortunently). But maybe I'm more biased against you then I realize. I don't know, but if anything, I would like to burry the hatchet. --Thadeous Oakley 11:29, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

nah man, hating the occasional idiotic action one guy does equals hating the guy altogether, and therefore i hate all actions by said guy. haven't you learned anything? you smelly cunt? see you and a lot of people disagree with what i'm saying so you're WRONG and therefore a smelly cunt, you cunt -- LEMON #1 15:58, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Also, I just checked the links you supplied. very interesting, though I'm sure Misanthropy will disregard it on any basis because it breaks his theatrical dramatisation of being the victim of said user vendettas. -- LEMON #1 16:00, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

I get the point you're making, and you're right, disagreements (as strongly these disagreements were though) shouldn't automatically lead to over the top feud's between users, but it seems this is the case judging how everything is taken so personally. --Thadeous Oakley 16:11, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Mis and Yon have been feuding since Banana Tactics' second deletion attempt. Their mutual distrust has been growing more obvious and more debilitating since then, and unless they can learn to play nice, this can only end in the unnecessary death of multiple editors. You've been included because you're friendly towards Yon, much as Rev and Goribus are considered to be in the Misanthropic Party. DDR has always struck me as neutral, but now that he's joined the Koponen Party, not only has the political balance been tipped, but now the drama is running rampant without Yon's relative levelheadedness holding back the harsh words. Backed into a corner, Mis has resorted to a mindless rage similar to that of DDR. Yon, fearing for both the wiki and his reputation, is distancing himself from the case, hoping not to fan the flame war. If either DDR of Mis could calm down long enough to just let this die, even if it means them losing the case (which wouldn't really matter, since the only thing at stake is an escalation) then we might be able to minimize how many people flee our little cesspool of drama. --VVV ^RPMBG 05:06, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

That's a really stupid and wrong way to portray things. You're automatically assuming that agreeing with (or liking) Y means "haeting" M and vice versa. That's incredibly shallow. You voted for Misanthropy in the bureaucratic election. Whoops, guess you really don't like Yonnua /sarcasm. Oh, DDR disagreeing with Misanthropy, yes that must mean DDR really likes to kiss Yonn's ass. :/ --Thadeous Oakley 11:06, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Precisely. The rhetoric is cute but I don't like the idea that you're blatantly ignoring my testimony that I'm simply trying to get a more valid decision made rather than the agreement between Mis and Yon (both who I think were wrong on their calls). If I were anywhere near as heated as you said I was, I would have ruled vandalism and tried to actually have Mis warned and have my way forced through the administrative system, where (again, as I have blatantly said in the main case) now it's at 50px and Mis seems to be happy to leave it at that, there is no reason a warning or any disciplined action should be carried out. I don't like the idea of being called Yonnua's lackey because I don't think I'm in any way dependant on his opinion or support, nor anyones, though if you feel compelled to make that call it's your opinion so whatever. Still, the fact you and others are ignoring several of my key points (disturbingly similar to the revenant case I cited on the main case), particularly regarding points such as bringing here to be consistent among previous vandals/cases like this, is rather jarring. -- LEMON #1 12:21, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

"If you are not a System Operator, the user who made the vandal report, the user being reported, or directly involved in the case, the administration asks that you use the talk page for further discussion. Free-for-all commenting can lead to a less respectful environment." Im looking at you here thad. You know the rules. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 16:35, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I do know, and my own opinion should be on the talk page but my reply to Aichon was suited me thinks, and was reply to an already existing conversation between him, me and DDR. Ugh I hate that box, and I hate discussing it even more especially since there is a gray area here. Also, if you're gonna call me out on it, it makes sense to use the talk page, or my own talk page. Just sayin'--Thadeous Oakley 16:46, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Not when I want to use the opportunity to remind all in the community it isn't. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 17:33, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Alright. Sorry.--Thadeous Oakley 17:51, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

^▲I think this image does a much better job of summing up the situation. And yes you are all tards. ~ 17:59, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

I particularly liked your immediate categorising of this image. The system works. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 18:26, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

I nearly used the correct American spelling out of irony. ~ 18:30, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Irony def Something a bit like iron. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 18:31, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

User:Perers

How odd. -- LEMON #1 16:14, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps he used UHUB? -- LEMON #1 16:14, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Deathwire isn't on UHUB. :P --Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 16:19, 16 November 2010 (UTC)