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TheCure

Called Burgundy a twat on Ron's user page.--Gage 18:37, 30 September 2006 (BST)

Warned. Cyberbob Talk 18:47, 30 September 2006 (BST)

Hm. Looks like Conn already did. >_> Cyberbob Talk 18:48, 30 September 2006 (BST)

I haven't seen any really constructive edits from him... --Gold Blade^{Vote Abstain!} 18:49, 30 September 2006 (BST)

Steven Allen (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss) Removed all content on UD Hunter Hunters and replaced with Da Caiger Mall survivors were erre innit. All of his contributions have been to vandalise pages. Permaban I feel... Pillsy ^{Hunt! FC!} 14:19, 30 September 2006 (BST)

All vandalism has been reverted. Pillsy ^{Hunt! FC!} 14:24, 30 September 2006 (BST)

Permablamed. Cyberbob Talk 14:33, 30 September 2006 (BST)

Blamed? --CaptainM 18:18, 30 September 2006 (BST)

Yes, thats not only when we Ban you but track you down and hit you with a clueXfour as well. Conndraka^{mod T CFT} 18:19, 30 September 2006 (BST)

Whoops. Typo. Cyberbob Talk 18:22, 30 September 2006 (BST)

Hmm. How about Permablammed? You get blammed off the wwiki for good. --Gold Blade^{Vote Abstain!} 18:41, 30 September 2006 (BST)

Marcus Reaves

False alarm — Hama's confirmed that they're the same person. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 10:37, 30 September 2006 (BST)

Clouddff7PTT

CheckUser says "different people", so yes, that is impersonation. Warned. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 06:11, 30 September 2006 (BST)

Ah Xoid...you said the warning wrong....you were suppose to say it in Chinese so he'll understand. PTT is in Taiwan you know! --Axe Hack 06:31, 30 September 2006 (BST)

Impersonation again--Gage 07:53, 30 September 2006 (BST)

Warned. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:56, 30 September 2006 (BST)

ThreeSided

Broke rule 12. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 05:21, 30 September 2006 (BST)

Warned. Cyberbob Talk 11:10, 30 September 2006 (BST)

Gage

Gage (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss) Removed another users comments, it doesn't matter what they say, you're still not allowed to delete it.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 00:39, 30 September 2006 (BST)

I am trying to help the wiki and you will not ban this malicious user. This was NOT bad faith: I was simply going through and reverting all of his slash crap, why turn on me about this? He is using a proxy and making a bunch of slashes and everything, why don't you just ban the proxy already?--Gage 00:40, 30 September 2006 (BST)

I'm making the point that you can't delete a users comments, i'd already reverted the slashes here. You notice i'm not complaining about your Suggestions page edits.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 00:44, 30 September 2006 (BST)

and this proves it! I was reverting a vandal user's comments.--Gage 00:45, 30 September 2006 (BST)

And I did not know you had already reverted the slashes.--Gage 00:47, 30 September 2006 (BST)

Well, vandalism case dropped. I think i've got my point across. Vandal account banned for 1 day, proxy perma-banned.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 00:49, 30 September 2006 (BST)

I want a permaban on the account, because he was moving pages as well.--Gage 00:50, 30 September 2006 (BST)

Permaban granted.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 00:52, 30 September 2006 (BST)

Mr. Voter

Mr. Voter (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss) Watch this guy, he has created {{Shit}} and he is on his first couple of edits.--Gage 00:32, 30 September 2006 (BST)

He's replaced all instances of ' with \' on the Suggestions page. --Funt Solo 00:34, 30 September 2006 (BST)

reverted.--Gage 00:35, 30 September 2006 (BST)

WUT M I DONG WRONG?!!!? OMG LOL IMM ONLEY VOTNG!1!!1!1! WTF LOL.--Mr. Voter 00:35, 30 September 2006 (BST)

you are doing this wrong, asshole.--Gage 00:47, 30 September 2006 (BST)

TheNew3PageWikiVandal

HURRRRR!1!11onehundredandeleven--Thari^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 23:28, 29 September 2006 (BST)
- God help us all... Why so many Vandals...--Canuhearmenow ^Hunt! 23:33, 29 September 2006 (BST)
  - I just have to say it. HURRRRRRRRR!!!!!! --Steel Laser 23:39, 29 September 2006 (BST)

Hack3r

Permabanned.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 23:11, 29 September 2006 (BST)

Vandal.clicdev.com.

See below. Permabanned. --Brizth ^{M T} 20:23, 29 September 2006 (BST)

Join: vandal.clicdev.com

See below. Permabanned. --Brizth ^{M T} 20:20, 29 September 2006 (BST)

Vandal.clicdev.com

I think I got everything reverted--Gage 20:08, 29 September 2006 (BST)

Permabanned. --Brizth ^{M T} 20:09, 29 September 2006 (BST)

Interesting, it appears that that ip was also used by Steel Laser.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 20:15, 29 September 2006 (BST)

I was talking to him yesterday, and he is quite the n00b.--Gage 20:17, 29 September 2006 (BST)

Hmm. Steel Laser claimed that his ISP switches to using proxies when their net usage got too high. Which is just stupid, because it wouldn't help them at all. Of course one some ISPs do quite stupid things. Very interesting... --Brizth ^{M T} 20:20, 29 September 2006 (BST)

ISP uses about 8 adresses. Like AOL, but even worse. However, switching to a proxy can reduce server load. If you want, I could give you a full description. --Steel Laser 22:58, 29 September 2006 (BST)

I very much doubt that an ISP would use a free open proxy.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 23:01, 29 September 2006 (BST)

I really need to switch... --Steel Laser 23:32, 29 September 2006 (BST)

Yes, you do. I'd recommend www.demon.net, if you can get them.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 23:35, 29 September 2006 (BST)

How? --Steel Laser 23:41, 29 September 2006 (BST)

Same way you signed up originally. Cancel your contract with your present one, and transfer to a new one (such as demon).--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 23:43, 29 September 2006 (BST)

N3PWV

Die

Kill

UDSUCKS

jjamesfaxi

Doesn't appear to be from an open proxy, doesn't appear to be vandal. I'm not 100% sure you could consider it impersonation. Anyone else think it's close enoguh to be blocked? –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:31, 29 September 2006 (BST)

It popped up right as we started calling him jjamesfaxi... it is impersonation.--Gage 07:34, 29 September 2006 (BST)

I highly doubt he would ever be a productive wiki user. --Ybbor^T12:58, 29 September 2006 (BST)

Probably impersonation, but why not wait until he actually commits vandalism. There's always the slight possibility he's just an alt, but not a vandal.Jjames 16:11, 29 September 2006 (BST)

That would be funny, if it wouldn't try so much. I'd say ban. --Niilomaan ^GRR!•M! 21:03, 29 September 2006 (BST)

Scinfaxi

Banned for one week. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 06:12, 29 September 2006 (BST)

What's going to happen to that Arby's case? Cyberbob Talk 06:16, 29 September 2006 (BST)

...Nothing for a week?--Gage 06:19, 29 September 2006 (BST)

WAIT. This is not vandalism. The Christian Decency Foundation can do whatever they like (as long as it's within the zerging/multi abuse rules, of course). "Revert" reverted, and Scinfaxi unbanned. Cyberbob Talk 06:20, 29 September 2006 (BST)

BULLSHIT. We went through this already and Hammero sorted it out. No events were to be posted on the locations page or else vandalism. What they do on their group page is their business. --Zod Rhombus 06:26, 29 September 2006 (BST)

Really? Where? I'll gladly back down if that can be verified. Cyberbob Talk 06:28, 29 September 2006 (BST)

Here. He knew from previous experience that this was not the place to post it, yet done it anyway. ∴ bad faith, ∴ vandalism. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 06:41, 29 September 2006 (BST)

Okey dokey. Ban reinstated, my "revert" reverted. Sorry guys. Cyberbob Talk 06:43, 29 September 2006 (BST)

Well I for one told him not to post there. If you're going to be inflammatory and offensive you have to follow the rules to the letter.Jjames 07:07, 29 September 2006 (BST)

Steel Laser

I am sorry, but this stupid isp keeps doing that when on a high load: it auto switches some people to proxies.Its not my fault Steel Laser 00:47, 29 September 2006 (BST)

That may be problematic then.--Gage 00:49, 29 September 2006 (BST)

My proxy damage is fixed. Look! ' --Steel Laser 01:30, 29 September 2006 (BST)

I hope it stays thay way.--Gage 01:31, 29 September 2006 (BST)

It will. I paid $15 to have it go non-proxy --Steel Laser 01:34, 29 September 2006 (BST)

$15? Damn man, you're getting ripped off, I'd switch ISPs before I'd pay $15 more for a service that should be included by default. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 05:50, 29 September 2006 (BST)

Well, what does that tell you how I feel about this? I really want to be a positive contributor. --Steel Laser 22:42, 29 September 2006 (BST)

Got a picture of the receipt? Hehheh... Just kidding! Or am I..? --Niilomaan ^GRR!•M! 22:52, 29 September 2006 (BST)

DANSAN00B

DANSAN00B (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss) Vandalized Fire Brigade 47's page again.--Thari^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 16:54, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Warned. Cyberbob Talk 17:14, 28 September 2006 (BST)

I want to point out that there are two similar accounts out there: DANSAN00B and Dansan00b. One of them created Danandthen00bs.--Thari^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 17:25, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Barbecue Barbecue

I removed my own VB case comments because I decided they weren't worth it. If you read what I removed, it was, in total, a bad diff link I initially posted, then corrected in response to a comment that the link was bad, and then decided the whole thing was just a muck up not worth retaining. If that decision was wrong, my apologies, and carry on. Barbecue Barbecue 15:41, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Doesn't matter. VB cases are not removed. Ever. However... since you're relatively new to the wiki, I'd be happy if you only got a slap on the wrist. Cyberbob Talk 15:54, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Vandal cases are flushed, however. Light slap. --Karlsbad 16:51, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Fuster

Example:

"Spam - Because spam voting sucks and the only way to change this is to be the arsehole that does it. -Fuster 00:50, 28 September 2006 (BST)"

(He's done the same on some of yesterday's suggestions, but I haven't checked further.)

--Funt Solo 13:34, 28 September 2006 (BST)

I struck all his votes because they contained no reasoning linked to the suggestion. This appears to be him throwing the toys out of the pram due to a personal dispute with Gage (over one of Fuster's suggestions being spaminated.) --Funt Solo 14:36, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Yeah, he is linking to my archive where he bitched at me for spaminating his suggestion "unjustly".--Gage 21:59, 28 September 2006 (BST)

If he really wants to piss people off he could vote Keep on all of my suggestions.. --MrAushvitz 01:49, 30 September 2006 (BST)

Darth Sensitive

Editing a users posts. --CaptainM 05:49, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Making posts conform to how they should be formated is not vandalism. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 05:54, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Could I remove the bold and italics in your comment? Same thing. --CaptainM 05:58, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Votes are to be formatted so that they are using a Pound sign and bolded with the appropriate (or semi-appropriate) phrase. The Blink template is not appropriate. Editing Xoid's text would be editing Xoid's text, not formatting a vote; Arguement failed. --Karlsbad 06:01, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Only time I've seen Darth remove comments were when illegal comments are posted by non-authors on suggestions... which is legal. (Even I know that!)--MrAushvitz 01:51, 30 September 2006 (BST)

Havoqx

Impersonation.--Thari^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 05:23, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Warned -Karlsbad 05:26, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Meow Meow Meow5

I think thats the right name. Anyway, Permabanned as another boring vandal, all edits reverted and forgotten. --Karlsbad 04:28, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Gold Blade

I need to get blocked! Someone is hacking my pc! --Gold Blade 03:42, 28 September 2006 (BST) STOP IT YOU HACKIING BASTARD! --Gold Blade 03:44, 28 September 2006 (BST)

How about you pull the plug on him?--Gage 03:45, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Forget about doing that! That guy said he is the one who hijacked both of my AIM accounts! Said those passwords were damn easy to guess!!! I don't know how he hacked my accounts! They are long as hell! 1 was a word and the other were numbers! --Axe Hack 03:48, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Gold Blade has been moving pages and the like. Banhammer anyone?--Gage 03:49, 28 September 2006 (BST) Gage, watch out. I managed to hack into Axes (Almost 20 chars long) with out much trouble, and I think you might be next. If I dont die of laughter first. This is so much fun!

I am so sorry everyone... Im gonna change my password now. --Gold Blade 03:55, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Do not bother.....that hacker told me he has an auto password hacking system.....no one on this wiki is safe tonight........we best watch out.... --Axe Hack 03:57, 28 September 2006 (BST)

If this is real this is fucking crazy...--Gage 03:58, 28 September 2006 (BST)

He did? I pulled both cords and the power plug. That ASSHOLE is good at this. --Gold Blade 03:59, 28 September 2006 (BST)

OH GREAT! he changes my password AND EMAIL on me. How am I supposed to log in now? --Gold Blade 03:59, 28 September 2006 (BST)

I advise everyone change their password now. This is really messed up. --Gold Blade 04:00, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Get your passwords back with the password retrieval system. And why bother changing the passwords? That guy will only hack in again with his auto password crap... --Axe Hack 04:02, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Because if your new password is kS23dFs308Nmdk45kK9 instead of CAT he'll have more trouble getting into it---Thari^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 04:04, 28 September 2006 (BST)

How did you guess my previous password? Anyway, check out this. File:Hacked Email.JPG --Gold Blade 04:06, 28 September 2006 (BST)

There is no point in changing your passwords to anything hard....that guys auto password hacking crap will only hack over and over again.....he already hijacked both my AIM accounts!!! And those passwords are mad long! 1 was a word and the other was all numbers! And he still hacked in! --Axe Hack 04:09, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Interesting. Well, Either A- this is a prank by Gold Blade, to which; funny but no, or B- Gold Blade needs to change his password or his connection or his computer. As such I am temp-banning the Gold Blade Account for 31 hours, enough to get Passwords and security in order. --Karlsbad 04:09, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Don't you get it??!? This hacker may even hack into your account next Karlsbad!!! My AIM accounts were hijacked by this bastard! --Axe Hack 04:12, 28 September 2006 (BST)

OK. We get it. There are bad people on the internet. But you say we can't do anything about it, so we won't worry. --Darth Sensitive

^W! 04:13, 28 September 2006 (BST)

And THAT is what you get for trying to stop me, Gold Blade. You perverted sack of crap.

It was Meow Meow...

--CaptainM 04:18, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Did that hacker plant a virus or something? I see at least 3 people here(including me) who has slashes somewhere...indicating possible proxy... --Axe Hack 04:26, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Just that the hacker is using a proxy. I'll ban the proxy under Gold Blade's account, if there is one, or Gold Blade himself if there is not — any halfwit can set up a firewall to prevent this sort of crap and brute strength password cracking takes tremendous amounts of processing power, so I'm certain it isn't the latter, meaning that it's lax security on your part. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 05:52, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Proxy evidence. --CaptainM 05:55, 28 September 2006 (BST)

No alternate IPs under Gold Blade, according to CheckUser that is. If the other guy was really hacking Gold Blade, he's managed to actually get into GB's computer. Meaning that Gold Blade's security was lax, and that banning Gold Blade as a security precaution is a good idea. Upon re-reading this case, it seems Karlsbad already did. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 06:04, 28 September 2006 (BST)

The only explanation I can think of is that it was Gold Blade playing a very un funny joke, or foolishly providing someone remote access. The latter being highly unlikely. --CaptainM 06:13, 28 September 2006 (BST)

If Gold Blade is playing a joke, Axe Hack is in on it. What should be done in response to their gross abuse of M/VB? Cyberbob Talk 13:29, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Oh I am on it all right! I'm tracking this hacker down! But it would have been a lot easier if I didn't have to uninstall my hacking programs when I was debugging my computer 3 weeks ago........ --Axe Hack 01:00, 29 September 2006 (BST) Eh heh heh....missread what cyber said over there.....no I am not in on it....I am not kidding when I said my AIM accounts were hijacked by this hacker.....that guy sent an IM to everyone on my buddy list....you want screennames I'll give em.....just to let you know, Gage was one of those person that recieved the hacker's IM.... --Axe Hack 01:03, 29 September 2006 (BST)

Jjames

Admits that he thinks Scinfaxi did not commit Vandalism, yet files a thinks Scinfaxi did not commit Vandalism, yet files a Vandalism report anyway. But before that, he got angry at Gage when Gage made a vandal report on me when Gage really did think it was vandalism. Dumb, and furthermore, Jjames tried to ban Scinfaxi for doing the right thing.--Gold Blade 02:52, 28 September 2006 (BST)

I think everyone is tired of seeing this shit on M/VB and M/A. Drop it. -- Alan Watson ^{Talk · MalTel} 02:56, 28 September 2006 (BST)

This is getting out of hand. I didn't file the case, captain m did. Are you my new stalker? Will this make the cool kids like you and totally make you mod? Let's just end this before it gets started. You win. You are cool and smart and handsome, and I'm stupid, ugly, and dumb. Declare victory.Jjames 02:58, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Done.

	Gold in the Basket
	This user resolved the situation by putting the gold in the basket.

--Gold Blade 03:00, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Case Dropped. --Gold Blade 03:09, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Meow meow meow3.14159265359

Dang! Xoid, Bizrith, you baned him for infinity x2! Check it out! --Gold Blade 01:57, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Hell, I'll ban him for infinite again if you want. :-D –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 02:00, 28 September 2006 (BST)

That would be awesome. You have been banned until the fifteenth apocalype. Reason: Just because. --Gold Blade 02:03, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Well, 15 times would just be spamming recent changes, but I done it once more, "just because". Your pages are protected from move vandalism now, so that's a good thing. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 02:09, 28 September 2006 (BST)

I know. And thank you verry much. --Gold Blade 02:10, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Thank you Xoid! You deserve some gold!

	Gold in the Basket
	This user resolved the situation by putting the gold in the basket.

--Axe Hack 02:38, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Fuster

Warned. --Karlsbad 03:22, 28 September 2006 (BST)

hello???--Gage 02:36, 28 September 2006 (BST)

I guess nobody really caers... COUGH!--Gold Blade 02:36, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Xoid, don't make me start {{yelling}}--Gage 02:43, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Meow meow meow4

Already banned. --Brizth ^{M T} 00:57, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Really messed up my page this time. --Gold Blade 00:58, 28 September 2006 (BST)

I am really fed up with this crap....can we get every page this vandal hits protected??!? --Axe Hack 00:59, 28 September 2006 (BST)

It's gonna up every single page....--Gold Blade 01:00, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Not every page....but most of the pages.... --Axe Hack 01:01, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Peter2

Peter2 (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss) I noticed some few days old vandalism. Permabanned user and the proxy. --Brizth ^{M T} 00:56, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Meow meow meow2

-.- -Certified=Insane_UG 00:30, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Not more........ --Axe Hack 00:31, 28 September 2006 (BST)

GDABCBFSW!!!!!--Gold Blade 00:32, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Blocked. --Brizth ^{M T} 00:32, 28 September 2006 (BST)

My user page is still not right! --Axe Hack 00:34, 28 September 2006 (BST)

nor is this page--Gage 00:34, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Something weird going on, but at least the page seems to have right name now. --Brizth ^{M T} 00:37, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Axe, your page seems to be unfixable for some reason... --Gold Blade 00:37, 28 September 2006 (BST)

I think I have noticed that!!!!! Even I can't revert anything done by this guy! --Axe Hack 00:39, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Fixed. --Brizth ^{M T} 00:40, 28 September 2006 (BST)

As unhappy as I am to admit it, he's good at what he does. --Gold Blade 00:40, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Thank you Brizth! I feel like I owe you one! --Axe Hack 00:41, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Meow meow meow3

Well....GB beated me to the reverting thing............and I just figured out how to do it......now....can I get my pages protected???? I think that has been strike 3!!! --Axe Hack 00:31, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Blocked. --Brizth ^{M T} 00:32, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Meow meow meow

God help us--Gage 23:47, 27 September 2006 (BST)

Damn...asshole...--Gold Blade 23:56, 27 September 2006 (BST)

What is up with this guy??!? --Axe Hack 23:57, 27 September 2006 (BST)

Bastard even moved your talk page, axe. --Gold Blade 23:57, 27 September 2006 (BST)

He was already banned, in case no one noticed. I got him relatively early in his spree. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 23:59, 27 September 2006 (BST)

I noticed it...I check the Recent Changes Page a lot. This *BLEEP* moved a lot of stuff.... --Axe Hack 00:01, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Uh oh...Remember the last time he struck? We had to deal with almost five...IMO: Brace yourselves. --Gold Blade 00:03, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Scinfaxi

For Filing a joke arbitration case. --CaptainM 23:39, 27 September 2006 (BST)

... How is that a joke? Jjames has stirred up a shitstorm not seen since Wikigate, and Scinfaxi's taking a lot of the flak because of it. Seems like perfectly reasonable ground for an arbitiration case. Flareblade77 ^{RK◘ZHU◘DORIS} 00:17, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Because they are friends? Roommates? Who files an online arbitration request against a roommate?--Gage 00:22, 28 September 2006 (BST)

This is a serious arbitration, and I am considering you as an arbitrator Gage. Also, I file a case against roommates. He stabbed me in the heart, cold-blooded. Now we're going to argue it out over the wiki till only one of us is left alive (or unbanned). It's gonna be like the fucking highlander. Really though, the case has merit. Scinfaxi 04:01, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Supposed roomate** --CaptainM 00:43, 28 September 2006 (BST)

I explained this logically yesterday. Scinfaxi 04:07, 28 September 2006 (BST)

I think his intent is serious. When I called the case a joke, I meant it had no merit. Let's just dimiss the case or adress it, but there's no need to draw out anymore vandal cases is there?Jjames 02:40, 28 September 2006 (BST)

It has no real merit, but it is serious. How is this vandalism? Wow, you sure know how to ensure you keep your trophy. --Gold Blade 02:44, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Intent is the key behind vandalism. I think his case was in good faith, I just don't think it is valid. I don't believe that's vandalism, but I've been wrong about that before. I feel I've clarified my view as much as I can, so I'll let the mods do the talking from here.Jjames 02:46, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Mia Kristos

It was against the first incarnation of wiki satan, Amazing (the second being Jjames). Who cares?--Gage 17:40, 27 September 2006 (BST)

Regardless It is inappropriate behaivior. Conndraka^{mod T CFT} 18:43, 27 September 2006 (BST)

How is that admitting to doing it? If you are experienced with php, you would also know that. I knew that too. That doesn't mean I've done it to people...--Gold Blade 23:03, 27 September 2006 (BST)

Exactly, if the wiki still allowed external images I could do it myself. It's not even that hard of a script. Once again, not meaning I would or have done it. --CaptainM 23:36, 27 September 2006 (BST)

It was how she responded to my reply that makes makes it an admission. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 15:23, 29 September 2006 (BST)

ARE THE MODS ONLINE

Permabanned. --Karlsbad 06:02, 27 September 2006 (BST)

Jjames

Messed up with Odd STarter switching between his alts and made this edit, completely in the voice of Jjames and everything. We caught him red handed.--Gage 04:06, 27 September 2006 (BST)

Someone, maybe you, is clearly imitating me in an attempt to get me banned. There is nothing other than their imitation of me that proves I'm them. Seriously is it at all logical that I would screw up this many times each time implicating myself or it more likely that someone that does know how to use proxies is doing this? --Jjames 04:12, 27 September 2006 (BST)

I don't need a proxy to make you look bad, you do that by yourself. --Gage 04:21, 27 September 2006 (BST)

I'm not breaking the rules so some asshole is trying to get me banned using a proxy to impersonate me. Quit being obtuse.Jjames 04:26, 27 September 2006 (BST)

Gage knows this is a frivolous claim. Here's precedent from yesterday. Notice that he acknowledges what cyberbob says.[1]Jjames 04:29, 27 September 2006 (BST)

Odd STarter

Permabanned, proxy IP also permabanned. Cyberbob Talk 03:01, 27 September 2006 (BST)

Karlsbad

Is there any particular evidence behind this? I mean something like that doesn't seem like it should be thrown around lightly. --Ybbor^T02:49, 27 September 2006 (BST)

The fact that Jjames stops posting when the vandal posts, and magically starts immediately afterwards? The fact that the vandal hits only mods that ruled against him?--Gage 02:51, 27 September 2006 (BST)

Take a look at his contribs, Ybbor. Cyberbob Talk 02:52, 27 September 2006 (BST)

Okay, yeah, seems pretty convincing. Would have been nice to at least have the time thing pointed out in the report though, rather than just making the conclusion that everyone is going to see the same patterns. To call someone a vandal alt seems like at least some mention of evidence should be necessary rather than just assumed. Not complaining though. --Ybbor^T03:01, 27 September 2006 (BST)

Template:ImportantInfo

–Xoid ^S•T•FU! 03:02, 27 September 2006 (BST)

Total bullshit. One of you assholes are probably waiting until I leave and then vandalizing shit to make it look like me.Jjames 03:38, 27 September 2006 (BST)

OF COURSE! We are waiting by your house, and then we RUSH to our computers as soon as you shut down your own! Maybe next time we'll wait until you are in the bathroom and then vandalise with YOUR OWN COMPUTER! Please. --Karlsbad 03:41, 27 September 2006 (BST)

well I'm not doing it, and you can always wait to see if it's been a while since my last edit. How else do you explain the coincidence assuming its not me? And it's not by the way.Jjames 03:43, 27 September 2006 (BST)

Also, I'm not Mexican. This has to be an impersonator.Jjames 03:48, 27 September 2006 (BST)

DANSAN00B/Dansan00b

--Thari^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 19:06, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Warned. --Karlsbad 19:44, 26 September 2006 (BST)

And Banned Conndraka^{mod T CFT} 17:26, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Foamyboss

Foamyboss (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss) I know this is from April 10th but it seems to have been missed? Maybe a polite warning since it's so old???? Pillsy ^{Hunt! FC!} 15:46, 26 September 2006 (BST)

I say nuke him because he only made 6 edits total: 3 on his user page, 3 vandalism ones on the PKAlliance page.--Gage 17:21, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Warned. --Karlsbad 19:46, 26 September 2006 (BST)

CaptainM

After trolling on the Arbitration page, he was warned not to do it again. However, he did not stop. --Darth Sensitive ^W! 07:32, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Unfortunately, this isn't vandalism. You'll need to take it to Arby's. *ducks* Cyberbob Talk 07:35, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Sooooo much wiki drama!!!! *curls into fetal position* --CaptainM 07:51, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Jesus make it stop! I will do anything. I promise I will be a good boy, just let it end already!--Gage 08:22, 26 September 2006 (BST)

If you two want it to stop, then stop adding to it! --Darth Sensitive

^W! 22:19, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Xοid

--Gage 05:01, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Permabanned. --Karlsbad 05:01, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Gage

Impersonation.

[6]Jjames 04:16, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Not vandalism. He was linking to a template, you fuckwit. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 04:18, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Oh.Well then warn him for incessant bad fath attck templates.Jjames 04:24, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Just imagine {{Straws}} here.--Gage 04:33, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Do not comment on cases after they are ruled upon. --Karlsbad 04:37, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Anti-dude

Anti-dude (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss) Vandalized the Policy Discussion page with a bogus policy, also an obvious open proxy user. -- Alan Watson ^{Talk · MalTel} 01:08, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Can we get a banhammer here?--Gage 02:30, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Anti-dude warned, proxy IP banned. Cyberbob Talk 02:33, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Deadeye207

diff1 diff2 --Thari^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 22:32, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Sigh. He asked for this. permabanned. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 22:34, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Gold Blade & Gage

Gold Blade was banned for absolutely no reason other than hagnat not being able to read the case. I was warned simply because hagnat cannot read and see that Karlsbad already ruled my case not vandalism. Things need to be set straight.--Gage 07:16, 25 September 2006 (BST)

This is ALL on misconduct.--Gage 07:17, 25 September 2006 (BST)

karlsbad's in misconduct for ruling on your case. Why don't you wait until both cases settle before bringing up a "non-vandal" report. Which is probably vandalism.Jjames 07:18, 25 September 2006 (BST)

No, GB needs to be unbanned now. Wait if you must for mine, but unban him.--Gage 07:34, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Well since you admit to filing a false report, you should accept the warning hagnat gave you.Jjames 07:59, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Give me the edit where I said my report was "false" --Gage 08:02, 25 September 2006 (BST)

You never intended gold to be warned. It was a false report.Jjames 08:05, 25 September 2006 (BST)

I absolutely resolve not to get caught up in the drama here with Jjames agian. I am sooo sorry guys. Hopefully this is the last you will see of me here on this page unless it is important. Please, just someone unban GB, he is a good guy. Okay, I am gone now.--Gage 08:34, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Right, someone explain to me nice and slowly what the fuck is going on here. Why were you banned, and why is this page flooded with frivolous cases?--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 10:39, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Jjames was told by a moderator that peolpe calling him Scinfax (or whoever) was vandalism, and so he put up the cases doing so. Hagnat ruled on Gold Blade's case, however it's obviously absurd that Gold Blade got banned for calling Jjams Scinfax, especialy after Hagnat ruling differently on a different users case where the exact same thing occured. There is now a case under Misconduct. Thats about it really. - Jedaz - 12:50/21/12/2024 10:43, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Gold Blade unbanned, Gage unwarned. Done. Cyberbob Talk 15:03, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Are you aware that the only reason hagnat said he would unban gage is because karl had already ruled on it? This is not a valid ruling, as karl has been in arbitration for calling me scinfaxi too. He is biased. Gage was fairly warned for making joke reports including gold blade and amazing, who already has a permaban. Look at his case, he deserves a warning as do the people I brought to vandal banning. Please take a look at karlsbad's misconduct case so that we can just deal with this and move on.Jjames 18:31, 25 September 2006 (BST)

It might just be that the other moderators agree with my ruling, james. --Karlsbad 19:11, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Jjames, this wasn't an act of bad faith on anyone's part. It was all a huge misunderstanding. I was made a (rather dumb, in retrospect) joke, Gage missed the sarcasam and made a serious report, Hagnat missed that I said it was something else, and you thought that Gage was trying to spite me. So I apologize most sincerely for this to all involved, and I hope that this explains everything. --Gold Blade 22:36, 25 September 2006 (BST)

I'd be more inclined to agree with you if it wasn't coupled by the fact that he also listed a permabanned poster and has continually disrupted the page. How much more does he have to do before people assume it's not in good faith? --Jjames 22:59, 25 September 2006 (BST)

If his edits were not in good faith, yours certainly cannot be. Regardless, Gage's actions have been so minor that warning or banning him over them is utterly ridiculous. I am also inclined to believe Gage at his word on this, no one is perfect and he has missed subtleties in wording before, so this is not out of the ordinary. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 04:07, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Jjames

OK, I've had it. This vandal has not only had a long history of negativity on the wiki, yet now he is directly or indirectly responsible for 19 VB cases and 2 misconduct cases in the span of one evening. He drags me and half the wiki into miscontribation for nothing other than dropping a huge drama bomb. THAT is bad faith on a large scale, I'm sick of it. --Zod Rhombus 07:12, 25 September 2006 (BST)

I was told by a moderator to post my cases here and was told they were vandalsim. How could that possibly be bad faith? Why aren't you asking asking for gage to be warned since he is the one who brought many of the vandal cases and one of the misconduct cases you consider me directly responsible for? How can this be seen as anything but a biased attack if you don't also list gage?Jjames 07:16, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Because YOUR actions are responsible. --Zod Rhombus 07:17, 25 September 2006 (BST)

No, he's responsible for his own actions. I followed a moderators advice who told me the cases were vandalism. How can doing what a moderator said possibly be vandalism?Jjames 07:19, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Why has the ruling that there is no case against me been removed by Karlsbad? Aren't rulings supposed to stay on the front page?Jjames 21:34, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Hmm, I don't see any sign of that in the history; could you provide link for this supposed ruling? --Karlsbad 22:21, 25 September 2006 (BST)

I posted to the wrong frivolous jjames case. I'll repost.Jjames 22:25, 25 September 2006 (BST)

What the fuck is going on here? Why is everyone bitching and whining?--Canuhearmenow ^Hunt! 22:26, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Can someone clear this please? There is no way obeying a moderators advice to report vandalism can be vandalism. This should be dropped now.Jjames 22:32, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Misguided. But not vandalism. --Darth Sensitive ^W! 22:39, 25 September 2006 (BST)

I contest this. The first few cases? Maybe. His continued posting of them, even after it has been said that M/VB is not the place for this crap? That is vandalism. He was informed what he was doing was wrong and continued to do it anyway. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 04:04, 26 September 2006 (BST)

It's also been said that M/A isn't the place either. So I don't think he should be held at fault for anything that's already been posted. --Darth Sensitive

^W! 04:15, 26 September 2006 (BST)

I never said the first cases, I'm talking about all the crap posted after it was said that neither place was suitable for it. That is what I'm contesting him going unpunished for. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 04:40, 26 September 2006 (BST)

As of now, he has reported me 5 times in the last 24 hours. No warning stuck...--Gage 04:52, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Well in part because karlsbad improperly cleared you. Besides you've brought plenty of people to vandal banning for calling me scinfaxi and brought me as well for some trumped up alt charges. Was that vandalism?Jjames 04:58, 26 September 2006 (BST)

There's been definite anti-jjames vandalism going on, and he's brought some stupid cases. However, I don't think they were nessecarily in bad faith. However, you have room to convince me. And if you aren't named jjames, Xoid, or Darth Sensitive, STAY OUT OF THIS DISCUSSION. jjames will speak only when spoken to. --Darth Sensitive

^W! 06:28, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Hagnat still says these are cases of vandalism. he's just too worried some asshole will take him to misconduct again. How can I be warned for following the wiki guidelines and the advice of a moderator? How can someone who is on the vandal banning page for calling me scinfaxi be saying I should be warned for bringing people to vandal banning for calling me scinfaxi? Isn't that a conflict of interests?Jjames 04:58, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Jesus H. Christ. Are you sure you're not Amazing? I haven't seen this circle jerk logic of this calibre since he was banned. You can be warned because commonsense dictates that it is not the right thing to do. You can be warned because you knew, from previous experience, that this sort of shit is not supposed to fill this page. Gage was simply expediting the process by making sure that the cases were all thrown out at once, instead of you biding your time and filling this page with another fuckload of them. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 05:03, 26 September 2006 (BST)

How does "A mod told me to bring these cases to vandal banning because they were vandalism" = you should know not to bring these to vandal banning? How can I be warned for following a Mod's advice? I think common sense and experience support the mod. As for gage, he listed amazing, so I think it's clear his intentions were bad faith. You called me scinfaxi, xoid. That makes it pretty suspect for you to claim someone can't be warned for calling me scinfaxi. I can't be warned for following a mod's advice. Another mod has already ruled on this as well. If you don't drop it, it becomes a clear case of misconduct.Jjames 05:08, 26 September 2006 (BST)

The same way that "blank M/VB" or "spam porn links all over the place". You know better; using either commonsense or previous experience (you've had a lot of that) you know that this isn't the place for this crap. Hagnat had a brainfart and said to do something stupid. That doesn't mean you go and do it.

Seriously? I called you Scinfaxi? Who gives a fucking shit?! Just like like how people called Amazing a pedophile purely to piss him off, you're getting called Scinfaxi purely to piss you off. Why? Because you're an imbecile who overreacts. That's why.

Finally, can you indent properly? Or better yet: die. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 05:15, 26 September 2006 (BST)

I think this is using common sense. My interpretation is that a bad faith accusation with out proof is vandalism. A mod verified that. So I went to vandal banning. That can't be against the rules. A mod has already cleared me. You must drop this case.Jjames 05:18, 26 September 2006 (BST)

A mod may overturn it, but Xoid is a Beauracrat. I may be spouting shit here, but aren't beauracrats like, mod times two? Oh wait, I think they are! --CaptainM 05:23, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Xoid, ban him for being an arrogant fuck and telling you what you "must do"--Gage 05:24, 26 September 2006 (BST)

I would, but being an idiot isn't a bannable offence. If it was, I'm pretty sure the wiki would have Kevan as it's only user. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 05:33, 26 September 2006 (BST)

lawl. --CaptainM 05:28, 26 September 2006 (BST)

You just told him what to do. I guess he has to ban you now. Quit being ridiculous. It's obviosly improper to say I should be warned after one mod told me to do this in the first place and another cleared me. There is no precedent for that.Jjames 05:30, 26 September 2006 (BST)

There is plenty of precedent for a bad decision being reversed. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 05:33, 26 September 2006 (BST)

If a bad faith accusation were enough to get someone banned, GANKBUS would be long gone. As would a large number of people. They aren't. You know that. You've been here long enough. You knowingly doing this because you're being a vindictive dramaqueen is vandalism. But I'm not even relying on that, I'm relying on you getting the benefit of the doubt. Instead, my argument is that you are continuing to spam this page even after you have been reprimanded for it numerous times.

"A mod verified that." — and if a mod verified that you should jump off a bridge, would you do that too?
"A mod has already cleared me" — and I'm contesting that, what is so hard for you to understand?
"You must drop this case." — or what? Nothing. I'm not dropping this case until someone with an ounce of intelligence counters my points. Guess what? Your rhetoric doesn't count.

–Xoid ^S•T•FU! 05:33, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Is it just me, or has he not even mentioned this mysterious mods name once? --CaptainM 05:38, 26 September 2006 (BST)

It was hagnat, but we have already touched on his inability to read.--Gage 05:39, 26 September 2006 (BST)

The only ones who have reprimanded me are involved in the case. I remember gankbus members being warned for false accusations at times. Simply tell me how two mods are to be overturned without a precedent to back it up?Jjames 05:42, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Because I'm not overturning it, I'm asking them to re-evaluate their decision. If I was overturning it, action would've already been taken. "The only ones who have reprimanded me are involved in the case.", utterly irrelevant. The only people who haven't reprimanded you are the people who's judgement is being called into question. One of whom has made seriously questionable decisions over a long period of time, the other is new to the moderating schtick. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 05:52, 26 September 2006 (BST)

You've still yet to set a precedent that states following the advice of a mod to post on VB is bad faith. It simply isn't. How is the fact that the people telling me it isn't vandalism have been brought to vandal banning by me? Don't most vandals try and say they didn't commit vandalism? Why should i have believed them over an uninvolved mod i've always respected?Jjames 06:02, 26 September 2006 (BST)

He's setting precident right now- that spaming the vandal banning page, even if you are too stupid to realize it, should have at least been considered idiotic and halted as soon as it was made apparent. Hagnat is wrong, which is under the rights of moderators to overrule him, and you should have stopped yesterday. --Karlsbad 06:07, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Again why should I believe someone who commited the same act that I took someone else to arbitration for? Why have so many mods called me scinfaci anyway? Why are mods antagonizing me and then claiming I'm violating the rules for reporting them as advised by an uninvloved mod? How could I know that hagnat was wrong (which I don't believe he was)? You ignore all the people contributing to this drama by calling me scinfaxi after I had already brought others to VB, by making attack templates, and by insulting me and slandering me with baseless accusations of having a vandal alt. None of my questions have been answered in regards to how this could be considered bad faith.Jjames 06:16, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Bad faith because this crap has happened before and been tossed out before. You know this, yet you persist in it. You've been answered, yet you continue to post dozens of reports over nothing. Hey, Karlsbad! You're Kevan. There, I just done it again. Ooooooh. Now, let's see Karlsbad be a bigger man than and suck it up. Let's see Kevan completely ignore it because it's beneath his notice.

You've insulted people with worse, and yet you've not been banned for it. You won't be. Yet a pissweak lil' name calling is vandalism? No. You wanna know what vandalism is? It's you getting worked up over nothing, posting dozen of reports and wasting everyone's time. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 06:33, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Let's see if I can end this. Shut the FUCK up Scinfaxi. --CaptainM 06:38, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Gage

Yet another bad faith accusation. [7] Jjames 06:54, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Alright, thats enough. Just becuase theres a bad faith accusation it's not vandalism unless it's placed on a page which is about fact. Misconduct is about opinion, it's an opinion which every user is allowed to have. Now both of you cut it out. - Jedaz - 12:50/21/12/2024 06:57, 25 September 2006 (BST)

{{Jjamesgate}}--Gage 07:00, 25 September 2006 (BST)

You are the one making joke reports, reporting me with no evidence and naming people for me to pull in that I had missed. You are also continualy making unproven bad faith accusations. You are the one abusing the page. i'm here because a moderator said it was vandalism and to report it here. --Jjames 07:03, 25 September 2006 (BST)

And you know from past experience that this is not the place. Take hangnut's words with a grain of salt. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 04:43, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Jjames

admitted he is Cyberbob250. Jjames posted a misconduct case here. I accidentily deleted it when i was performing a revert of Cyberbob250's vandalism. The next edit summary? Cyberbob saying "Don't delete my case--Gage 06:26, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Bullshit. Cyberbob claimed he was me, I didn't "admit" anything. Check my IP and see for yourselves. Might want to check gage's to. In my opinion it's possible someone is trying to set me up.Jjames 06:29, 25 September 2006 (BST)

THAT IP IS A PROXY DUMBASS. I. AM. NOT.--Gage 06:31, 25 September 2006 (BST)

I'm not using a proxy either, idiot. I don't even know what a proxy is. I can barely format correctly on a fucking wiki, what makes you think I'm a computer wiz?Jjames 06:33, 25 September 2006 (BST)

You don't know what a proxy is and ran for mod? Yeah, right, give me a break. Man, someone please release me from this arb case with jjames and all this wikidrama bullshit? There is some obvious bad faith editing going on here and I think jjames is messing this crap up for fun yet again or something. --Zod Rhombus 06:42, 25 September 2006 (BST)

I was obviously not qualified to be mod if you look at the voting. No I don't know anything about getting around IP blocks. I thought the reason the mods wanted the new software was so they could stop people from getting around IP blocks. I have never used a proxy.Jjames 06:50, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Not an official ruling... but the evidence is scanty. I'm off to bed soon. --Darth Sensitive ^W! 06:37, 25 September 2006 (BST)

I can't believe I didn't even notice this. If you deleted cyberbob's comments when you "accidentaly" deleted mine, why wouldn't his revert say delete my comments? You had deleted his comments. This bullshit should be dismissed like now.Jjames 06:59, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Can I get this cleared please. There is no evidence that I am cyberbob. It makes no sense to vandalize a case I'm trying to get solved and I have no history of vandalism or using proxys.Jjames 22:31, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Please provide links proving such, including a link that explains your 2+ hour gap in which the rash of proxy-vandels was occuring. --Karlsbad 22:41, 25 September 2006 (BST)

You can't prove a negative moron. The accusations against me must be proven. How would I provide a link explaining where I went? The fact that I was gone from my computer was the reason there were no posts from me. Should I scan the receipt from walmart showing I was buying delicious ice cream cones and an awesome sigma 6 destro action figure for my little brother at the time?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jjames (talk • contribs) 16:49, 25 September 2006.

But rememeber, Template:ImportantInfo. And you lying about this would almost be as classic as you misrepresenting yourself as a civil human being with an actual point. --Karlsbad 00:59, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Gage

Deleted my misconduct case.[8] Jjames 06:21, 25 September 2006 (BST)

that was a revert gone wrong, --Gage 06:33, 25 September 2006 (BST)sorry.--Gage 06:23, 25 September 2006 (BST)

However would you care to explain this Jjames? - Jedaz - 12:50/21/12/2024 06:24, 25 September 2006 (BST)

So you'll accept a warning on this, gage?Jjames 06:26, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Some vandal either thinks I'm funny or is trying to make me look bad. Check my IP, it's not me.Jjames 06:26, 25 September 2006 (BST)

The IP's not going to come out as you because the vandals using a proxy. - Jedaz - 12:50/21/12/2024 06:28, 25 September 2006 (BST)

No I will not. It was reverting vandalism and got careless. My edit was not bad faith.--Gage 06:28, 25 September 2006 (BST)

You did it twice. Clearly badfaith.Jjames 06:31, 25 September 2006 (BST)

I didn't use a proxy for Rev. Bubba Flavel, and I don't know how. Don't accuse people of things you can't prove.Jjames 06:31, 25 September 2006 (BST)

can I get a big not vandalism on this one? I was reverting vandalism by Cyberbob250 and didn't see the case. It must have just been added as i did it.--Gage 06:33, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Not vandalism - please try to be more careful in the future. --Darth Sensitive

^W! 06:35, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Cyberbob250

Oh, and people, block the IP, the slash inducing proxy is annoying. - Jedaz - 12:50/21/12/2024 06:22, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Banned and blocked. IP too. --Darth Sensitive ^W! 06:36, 25 September 2006 (BST)

And yet i'm still here. Mystery solved guys, he wasn't me.Jjames 06:37, 25 September 2006 (BST)

That doesn't solve anything dipshit. They banned a proxy, so they wouldn't have been able to ban the person behind it. HURR--Gage 06:38, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Not every one is computer savy, gage. It's not an indicator of real intellegence to anyone i respect anyway. Not everyone thinks Data is cool either.Jjames 06:52, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Hagnat

yes, the real one. His erroneous ban of Gold Blade needs to be undone, and his the ban that he said he would undue (on misconduct) of me needs to be revoked.--Gage 06:22, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Mod abuse of this page is not vandalism, its misconduct. --Karlsbad 19:19, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Hagnаt

permabanned as vandal already. thanks for the help! --Karlsbad 05:39, 25 September 2006 (BST)

I... I... how could he .. where is the differnt letter here ? Damn. This is my first vandal alt, and i cant tell the difference between his name and mine. Damn! --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 05:45, 25 September 2006 (BST)

same thing with BobHammero. I think they are using the HTML for one of the letters or something.--Gage 05:50, 25 September 2006 (BST)

He's using a capital letter uh is it sooo hardHedgehog

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CaptainM

warned for vandalism of this same page. Oh Snap! --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 04:33, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Agreeded, Actually warned. Banned 24hrs as a response. --Karlsbad 04:38, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Mia Kristos

warned for vandalism of this same page. Oh Snap! --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 04:29, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Er, isn't that a report-warn? --Karlsbad 04:30, 25 September 2006 (BST)

No, its a warn-report. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 04:33, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Oh oh, totally different, never mind me... --Karlsbad 04:34, 25 September 2006 (BST)

BobHammerο

How can this vandal alt have the same user name as bob? I don't understand it!--Gage 03:56, 25 September 2006 (BST)

The reason is becuase he's using a different character for the letter O. - Jedaz - 12:50/21/12/2024 04:01, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Jedaz, DON'T YOU WISH YOU WERE A MOD NOW!?!?!?!--Gage 04:02, 25 September 2006 (BST)

No, not really. I feel much better then when I was a mod. I hated all of that responsibility and the feeling of obligation to do something. Although I do admit that it would be very convenient if I was at this point in time. - Jedaz - 12:50/21/12/2024 04:05, 25 September 2006 (BST)

I was actually fooled when I saw Bob ban his impersonator. I deserve a cookie for that one ;^) --Karlsbad 04:07, 25 September 2006 (BST)

	A FREE COOKIE
	Jedaz has given Karlsbad a cookie for for being fooled when an impersonator said he was banned.

I can almost guarntee it's jjames. Not to seem like a meddling troll here, but every edit done by this vandal was to the cases against Jjames, and they were to falsely warn/ban them. --CaptainM 04:09, 25 September 2006 (BST)

If it was me, then I'd be banned already. They can check IP adresses now. I can almost guarentee that you are a moron.Jjames 06:09, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Banned by karlsbad earlier. --Darth Sensitive ^W! 04:24, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Gage

posting joke vandal cases.Jjames 03:19, 25 September 2006 (BST)

As legit as the rest of the vandal cases- cites a page edit as well, which this doesn't. NOT VANDALISM. --Karlsbad 03:48, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Discussion moved to talk page.

People who called Jjames Scinfaxi

Not Vandalism, as according to precident HERE. In short: insults are not vandalism. --Karlsbad 04:00, 27 September 2006 (BST)

What about this precedent? [9]Jjames 04:13, 27 September 2006 (BST)

Thats not a ruling, its an opinion on a seperate page unrelated to vandalism. --Karlsbad 06:06, 27 September 2006 (BST)

He would have made a ruling if he wasn't afraid of being dragged to misconduct. It is still a mod defining these cases as vandalism.Jjames 06:07, 27 September 2006 (BST)

Precident > Opinion. If you have anything further please continue in Misconduct. --Karlsbad 06:09, 27 September 2006 (BST)

Xoid

Calls me Scinfaxi. Clearly bad faith. [10]Jjames 03:26, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Nobody gives a fuck!--Gage 03:37, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Niilomaan

Called me scinfaxi on the arbitration page in a case directed at stopping all the drama related to these cases. Clearly bad faith intended only to create trouble.Jjames 18:39, 25 September 2006 (BST) [11]

Why can't you just link DIRECTLY to the edit? Skmoron. --Niilomaan ^GRR!•M! 22:51, 26 September 2006 (BST)

Why can't you stop antagonizing me? This is hardly appropriate behavior for a mentor.Jjames 22:54, 26 September 2006 (BST)

If I need to teach someone, then I'm gonna teach them not to have 30 foot stick in their ass. --Niilomaan ^GRR!•M! 22:57, 26 September 2006 (BST)

1 4 of CDF

Called me scinfaxi despite current arbitration case. Clearly bad faith. Also, I am not a racist. [12] Jjames 03:47, 25 September 2006 (BST) Not vandalism. This particular case is being ruled in arbitration. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 04:57, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Gold Blade

admitted his guilt.--Gage 03:13, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Oh noes! Im on fire! --Gold Blade 03:14, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Hey Gage, lets see just how many people we can get for this, no matter how unconnected they are. --Gold Blade 03:15, 25 September 2006 (BST)

This is clearly bad faith, gage. A mod told me to bring my cases to vandal banning, so I did. You are bringing people already banned or totally innocent. That is vandalism.Jjames 03:17, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Why not just solve this Jjames by requesting an apology from everyone who did, letting this go, and making a petition that says that you aren\'t Scinfaxi.--Gold Blade 03:19, 25 September 2006 (BST)

A mod told me this was vandalism. So I\'m reporting it. That\'s all. I have no hard feelings about it.Jjames 03:32, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Warned, and banned for 1 week. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 04:54, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Unwarned, Hagnat in misconduct for this case, ban lifted. --Karlsbad 19:18, 25 September 2006 (BST)

The General

just to get everyone who called him scinfaxi. Here is the edit.--Gage 02:57, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Thanks, I missed that one.Jjames 03:08, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Darth Sensitive

Here is the edit on this one.--Gage 02:57, 25 September 2006 (BST)

He edited his own post there. i'd say that one is to close to call.Jjames 03:09, 25 September 2006 (BST)

That was a mistake based on reading the replys of others, and I know it was a mistake. It was fixed in the next minute, but if others recieve warnings, I will accept mine without complaint. --Darth Sensitive

^W! 05:03, 25 September 2006 (BST)

A warning will be given if jjames wishes. To err is human. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 05:13, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Too close to call even if Jjames wished: to err is human indeed. NOT VANDALISM--Karlsbad 05:16, 25 September 2006 (BST)

I think he should be let off. For all I know, he thought better of it and then changed it.Jjames 05:59, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Please do not comment on cases after they are ruled upon by a moderator. --Karlsbad 06:00, 25 September 2006 (BST)

It hasn't been ruled upon... --Darth Sensitive

^W! 06:02, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Must have forgotten the "mod tag". --Karlsbad 06:04, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Mia Kristos

Calls me Scinfaxi directly. A clear bad faith effort. [13]Jjames 02:47, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Zod Rhombus

[14] Calls me Scinfaxi directly. A clear bad faith effort.Jjames 02:10, 25 September 2006 (BST)

I gotta go with Gage on this one. There is no rule that I'm aware of against calling a user a name. Hell, I've been called Amazing more than once. It would be different if I was saying 'Jjames is Scinfaxi!! He is a wikizerger sockpuppet that MUST BE PERMABANNED LOLZ!!11' I just reflect that their posts are asinine, worthless chatter and I don't want it on my group pages or elsewhere where I can see it. If calling someone a name is bad faith, the wiki would cease to function with all the VB cases piling up. --Zod Rhombus 02:53, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Oh look, it already is. --Zod Rhombus 02:57, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Why not add me because I said Scinfaxi sometime and then said Jjames sometime later on without any connection...--Gold Blade 03:11, 25 September 2006 (BST)

I have been called plenty of names without complaint. Calling me scinfaxi is asking for me to be banned. I have posted while he was banned and voted on the same policies as him. Either would get me banned. And why do you keep saying you didn't call me scinfaxi? You did. It's on my talk page after I brought you to arbitration.Jjames 03:15, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Not vandalism. This particular case is being ruled in arbitration.--People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 04:56, 25 September 2006 (BST)

CaptainM

Calls me Scinfaxi directly. A clear bad faith effort. [15]Jjames 02:10, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Gage

Calls me Scinfaxi directly. A clear bad faith effort.[16]

I would like to make the point that at no time has insulting another user been considered vandalism.--Gage 02:14, 25 September 2006 (BST)

It is considered vandalism to make unproven accusations about other users. Especially considering that it was made after I made it clear I would not accept being called this numerous times. Zerging, alt accusations are bad faith if they are made as a statement of fact without being proven.Jjames 02:26, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Show me where it is in the rules that I can't call you Scinfaxi. You take yourself too seriously. I would like to submit this edit where Jjames says I am gay, and this one where he calls me a "mewling little sissy" - both unfounded accusations. Jjames, you are a hypocrite. I have proven that one.--Gage 02:31, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Are you dense? It is my opinion that you are dense? I am 98% sure that you are dense. I can't accuse you of being a sissy. It's an opinion, a vague value judgement. And it's not even mine. I was just playing on the misconceptions of my instablilty and rudeness. As I have already said, I have never taken anyone to arbitration for calling me a name, and I have been called plenty. Bad faith accusations are a different matter. In what way was this good faith? You posted after I took someone else to arbitration for it, on my talk page no less. You knew it was bad faith.Jjames 02:53, 25 September 2006 (BST)

You've brought foreward no arbitration case which was actually ruled upon, o-pal-of-mine. --Karlsbad 03:49, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Axe Hack

Calls me Scinfaxi directly. A clear bad faith effort. [17]Jjames 02:10, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Oh puh-leaze! --Axe Hack 00:56, 27 September 2006 (BST)

Steamwhistle

and ? --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 00:14, 25 September 2006 (BST)

That isn't enough? Users have been warned for this before.--Gage 00:16, 25 September 2006 (BST)

For uploading a picture ? C'mon. You are worried about the naked chick in the pic ? Turn your TV on, you will probably see women in more sensual situations that this one. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 00:50, 25 September 2006 (BST)

C'mon, he is a Newbie who has actually asked for a Mentor, why don't you be his mentor Gage?--Canuhearmenow ^Hunt! 00:51, 25 September 2006 (BST)

I don't know about Brazil hagnat, but that wouldn't fly on US television. Unless you are Janet Jackson...--Gage 01:03, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Brazilian TV is worst, believe me. But when i said that, i was referring to your good ol' sitcoms and movies. A women doesnt need to be naked (not even half naked) to be sensual, Gage. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 01:14, 25 September 2006 (BST)

It certainly helps if she is completely naked and fondling some guy though, huh? XD--Gage 01:54, 25 September 2006 (BST)

Moooooooover

Moooooooover (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)--Thari^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 01:46, 24 September 2006 (BST)

Permabanned --Darth Sensitive ^W! 01:53, 24 September 2006 (BST)

You know the drill

You know the drill (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss) Vandal. Permabanned. --Brizth ^{M T} 22:47, 23 September 2006 (BST)

This guy just doesn't quit.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 22:49, 23 September 2006 (BST)

He really sucks at it too. I would respect him more if he was a good vandal.--Gage 22:50, 23 September 2006 (BST)

lol, he fucked up the template call as well.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!}

Mia and I fixed my template. All you have to do is add {{Subst:vndl|Gage}} now.--Gage 00:05, 24 September 2006 (BST)

Is there a reason to want to :Subst it? It seems like it would be better as just a template. --Darth Sensitive

^W! 00:12, 24 September 2006 (BST)

If you don't substitute it in, when you try to edit the section, it edits the template instead.--Gage 00:27, 24 September 2006 (BST)

Try editing it in my sandbox. Revert it when you are done.--Gage 00:51, 24 September 2006 (BST)

Well... I have {{vndl2}}, if you don't include the name as the 3rd level heading, it works fine. Just do what we've been doing and have {{usr}}. Check it out in your sandbox... --Darth Sensitive

^W! 01:13, 24 September 2006 (BST)

I think you are right, that is the way to do it. I have changed {{Vndl}} to reflect that.--Gage 01:21, 24 September 2006 (BST)

Back again

Very nice. Permabanned the vandal. --Brizth ^{M T} 22:04, 23 September 2006 (BST)

Don't put it below the three header, because this is meant to save time, both for the reporter and the mod--Gage 22:25, 23 September 2006 (BST)

Putting it as header will make TOC look extremely messy. Even the original with only contribs link looked really, really weird. --Brizth ^{M T} 22:30, 23 September 2006 (BST)

Hmmm... interesting.--Gage 22:32, 23 September 2006 (BST)

Jedz

Vadalized this page, impersonation.--Gage 21:48, 23 September 2006 (BST)

Permabanned, same IP as the case below. --Brizth ^{M T} 21:56, 23 September 2006 (BST)

Finaly, my first impersonator, pitty that I'm not very active on this wiki any more =P - Jedaz - 12:50/21/12/2024 14:38, 24 September 2006 (BST)

Mr, A Vandal

Name? Voting against the proxy proposal, obvious sockpuppet. Also put himself up for promotion.--Gage 20:02, 23 September 2006 (BST)

Looks like a very bad joke to me. Banned.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 20:04, 23 September 2006 (BST)

And I had to ban again... Whats up with that? Conndraka^{mod T CFT} 00:59, 24 September 2006 (BST)

What do you mean?--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 01:05, 24 September 2006 (BST)

Jenna

Diff one and diff two. No good faith edits. I think it's someone's alt.--Thari^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 21:32, 22 September 2006 (BST)

From the timing it would seem to be the same twit who vandalised those two pages before. Since this seems to be just an alt, I'll permaban it. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 10:14, 23 September 2006 (BST)

Lakeside

3pwv? Also used sig-template trick to cause havoc. Permabanned, sig deleted. --Brizth ^{M T} 20:29, 22 September 2006 (BST)

Shit, I didn't expect that!--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 20:33, 22 September 2006 (BST)

Zod rhombus

Impersonation of Zod Rhombus? It is pretty old.--Gage 05:25, 22 September 2006 (BST)

from where the fuck did you dig that out ? --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 05:31, 22 September 2006 (BST)

This recently uploaded file.--Gage 05:34, 22 September 2006 (BST)

Wow, yeah I just uploaded that image. Wow, someone has had an impersoantion page of me a long time. --Zod Rhombus 05:40, 22 September 2006 (BST)

Legom7

Recently edited the Red Rum page, presumably to take a jab at us (He's a member of the C4NT, a group who's members have been comming up a lot lately in the Red Rum kill reports, and thus, has a motive). He is in no place to tell us what our member count is. --Sirens^{T RR} 23:42, 21 September 2006 (BST)

Warned Conndraka^{mod T CFT} 23:54, 21 September 2006 (BST)

Thought I'd point out that it was done again, but I'm not sure if this was before or after your warning. Either way, thanks for the revert. --Sirens^{T RR} 23:58, 21 September 2006 (BST)

The Second time was before I could warn him for the first time. Conndraka^{mod T CFT} 00:01, 22 September 2006 (BST)

Amc

Has repaeatdly returned expired ads onto the recruitment page, And Has been warned. Conndraka^{mod T CFT} 15:36, 21 September 2006 (BST)

I've looked through the diff comparisions, and while he may be a newbie, negligence of this scale cannot simply go unpunished. Warned. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 15:53, 21 September 2006 (BST)

Mark D. Stroyer

Placed a humorous suggestion on the suggestions page, complete with author kill vote.--Gage 22:47, 20 September 2006 (BST)

Warned. Cyberbob Talk 01:56, 21 September 2006 (BST)

Rev. Bubba Flavel

Checkuser confirms that he is an alt of Jjames, used to attack the CDF.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 21:22, 19 September 2006 (BST)

We knew this awhile ago. Bob discovered it. The "Christian Decency Foundation" was kept, so they are carrying out their plans to stir up more shit on the wiki...--Gage 22:28, 19 September 2006 (BST)

Furthermore, alts are not against any policy, so long as they aren't used to abuse voting, violate arbitration agreements, etc. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 23:24, 19 September 2006 (BST)

So what you're saying is that its okay to create an alt solely for the purpose of harassing other members of this wiki. That sounds totally fair.--Steele Glovier 13:16, 20 September 2006 (BST)

Considering that harrassment is something that an Arbitration hearing can clear up, especially considering that breaking an Arbitration argreement would then ban any alt and give a Warning to the owner, I would say that "harrassment" only goes as far as the person is effected by it. --Karlsbad 19:18, 20 September 2006 (BST)

Yet this is a harassment of a whole group of users. I don't mind alts as long as there are constructive reasons. An alt solely created to harass a user or group or users adds no value to the wiki community.--Steele Glovier 13:52, 21 September 2006 (BST)

He'd "harass" you with or without this alt and it's common knowledge that Rev. Bubba Flavel = Jjames. This case was already dismissed, let it die. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 14:52, 21 September 2006 (BST)

MrAushvitz

Posted one suggestion, then removed it and posted a non revision suggestion all on the same day. Violation of rule 12.--Gage 23:47, 18 September 2006 (BST)

Banned for 2 weeks. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 23:59, 18 September 2006 (BST)

Shouldn't his next ban have been for a month?--Gage 00:01, 19 September 2006 (BST)

No. His last ban was for 1 week, according to M/VD and the history for this page. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 00:06, 19 September 2006 (BST)

No Bob, you need to read M/G - Bans shall be escalating in nature, the first being for 24 hours, the second being for 48 hours, the third being a week, the fourth being a month, and the fifth (and any further ban) being a year. --Gage 00:08, 19 September 2006 (BST)

Oops, you're right. Banned for 1 month. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 00:53, 19 September 2006 (BST)

Additional comments moved to Talk:M/VB#MrAushvitz. Do not place further commentary here. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 00:25, 20 September 2006 (BST)

I'm contesting this decision. It was a new rule, and apparently more than one of the people who voted on it was not entirely aware of its meaning. Furthermore, the wording said "revision". The suggestion that Aushvitz placed was a revision under all common meanings of the word. I do not honestly think Mr. Aushvitz done this in bad faith and would request that Bob retract the warning. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 02:56, 20 September 2006 (BST)

After discussing the finer points with Xoid again, I have decided to reverse my previous decision and unban MrAushvitz. Make no mistake: I still believe that he violated the letter of the law, but the fact that it needed interpretation is reason enough for me to believe that it was poorly written in the first place, and more importantly, I do not believe that he broke it in bad faith, something that I neglected to consider in my original ruling. I also strongly recommend a rewrite of the rule in question to avoid further ambiguity and establish its intent more firmly. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 05:28, 20 September 2006 (BST)

Roysten Crow

uploaded an inappropriate image to the wiki--Gage 21:06, 18 September 2006 (BST)

Warned. I also think that the entire of The Apocalypse Horde should be warned as well, the amount of pictures on their page should qualify as anti-social.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 21:15, 18 September 2006 (BST)

anti social? Yes. Disgusting. Completely.

Image:Mr murderous.JPG

Image:Horde 21.JPG

Image:Horde_20.JPG

can we warn/delete for these? They are disturbing. --Gage 21:27, 18 September 2006 (BST)

Can't really warn, as these were done before the first warning. But i'm deleting them, and i've levied an arbitration case against them.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 21:29, 18 September 2006 (BST)

Zod Rhombus

I was under the impression that selectively removing some user's comments out of a discussion was vandalism. Please correct me if it's allowed. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 00:46, 18 September 2006 (BST)

this was on Talk:Crossman Defense Force and Zod is the owner of that page, pretty much. Scinfaxi was harassing him.--Gage 01:02, 18 September 2006 (BST)

Not vandalism. Groups are allowed to edit their pages so long as that editing does not break any other policy. Since the comments were removed from the end and not the middle, there is no issue here. Had the comments been removed only from the middle of a conversation, so as to change the meaning of later comments, that could be considered vandalism, however. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 01:33, 18 September 2006 (BST)

Mia Kristos

Impersonated another user for the purpose of abusing the vandal banning system in bad faith. Refer to below cases. Thank you. -- Basil 21:18, 17 September 2006 (BST)

She was already warned for that. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 21:20, 17 September 2006 (BST)

The archivar

Not sure if this applies, considering the murkiness of the two accounts, but The archivar impersonated Danny Floyd/Mia. Cyberbob Talk 10:31, 17 September 2006 (BST)

Not impersonation, since The Archivar is the real Danny Floyd, and the second user page redirects to The Archivar user page. :P —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hagnat (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.

The archivar

[18] Edited my user page without permission. --Danny Floyd 06:27, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Warned. Cyberbob Talk 06:30, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Actually, User:Danny Floyd is a sockpupet and should be banned, and the user behind it, warned. This account was merely created to punish the original Danny Floyd for its lack of wiki knoweledge.--People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 09:42, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Checkuser points that User:Danny Floyd is User:Mia Kristos. Mia, why do you hate newbies that much ? --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 09:45, 16 September 2006 (BST)

I'm inclined to disagree simply because that stupid fuck could've prevented this sort of problem from ever occuring by, y'know, actually reading the detailed instructions on how to sign properly the first four times it was brought up. It's not our job to clean up every mess left by some brainless twat who can't comprehend a simple two sentence instruction, so I'd love to see him learn the hard way. Regardless, I'll do what is just in this case. Sorry Mia, but you're getting warned, that account is getting permabanned, it's user page is becoming a redirect to captain oblivious' non-existant user page, and his warning is being retracted. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 11:05, 16 September 2006 (BST)

I completely disagre with the redirect. --Sirens^{T RR} 13:17, 16 September 2006 (BST)

I don't get it, can someone explain what just happened here?--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 21:32, 16 September 2006 (BST)

There is a newbie. Mia created a wiki account using this newbie's UD player name. This newbie editted mia's sockpuppet user page. The newbie was warned and the sockpuppet account now redirects to the newbie's User Page. Am I correct?--Thari^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 21:38, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Well, no. User:The archivar used Danny_Floyd erroneously as signature, actually linking to the non-existant user's page. Mia then registered that name, and now bought this VB case against The archivar, as Danny Floyd. Cyberbob warned The archivar, but Hagnat noticed that Floyd == Kristos and Xoid removed archivar's warning and warned Mia for bad-faith noob/newbie tormenting. --Brizth ^{M T} 21:41, 16 September 2006 (BST) Edit: But yeah, you were correct that the newbie aka archivar in his newbiness edited Floyd's page which bought this whole VB case. --Brizth ^{M T} 21:42, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Sounds like a lack of thought on Mia's part.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 21:44, 16 September 2006 (BST)

User:███

Vandal. Also an idiot. --ĢΘζđ ЫǺđє 02:01, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Uh....there's no link.....um.....were you aiming for this? --Axe Hack 02:10, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Ahh....Much better....also.....I corrected the heading thing. You got a level 2 heading so I fixed it. --Axe Hack 02:12, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Gay bastard...--ĢΘζđ ЫǺđє 02:14, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Uh.....you sure deleting everything on the guy's user and talk page won't get you banned? I think it will. And yes I know it was only a few things but just in case.... --Axe Hack 02:17, 16 September 2006 (BST)

I am trying to stall him from destroying the wiki, cause the MODS ARENT HERE! cmon! it wont last forever... --ĢΘζđ ЫǺđє 02:18, 16 September 2006 (BST)

The mods aren't here?!?!?!?!?? Who the hell is watching over the freaking wiki while it's slowly being wrecked by vandals??!?!? What kind of mod just slacks off?!?!??!? --Axe Hack 02:20, 16 September 2006 (BST)

What did i tell you? --ĢΘζđ ЫǺđє 02:21, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Could it be that some mods need some fucking sleep? I can't be on all the time. I know Cyberbob generally keeps the same hours. Another case of you tarring us all with the same brush. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 05:22, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Believe me, if a mod was on right now to ban him, I wouldnt have done ANYTHING --ĢΘζđ ЫǺđє 02:22, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Comeon...you're trying to stall em...but you will never know when an entire group of vandals come on at the same time and wipe out the wiki. You can't do this thing alone. You need some help reverting things and stuff. --Axe Hack 02:28, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Did quite a bit of reverting here too...i think he's stopped...--ĢΘζđ ЫǺđє 02:30, 16 September 2006 (BST)

I'm sorry guys, I'm looking at this situation too but I can't do shit. I suppose that I won't be able to ever as the things are going on my promotion bid, with this wave of last moment votes. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 02:31, 16 September 2006 (BST)

I hate these people...today had a wave of vandals...wtf... --ĢΘζđ ЫǺđє 02:35, 16 September 2006 (BST)

THANK YOU HAGNAT! --ĢΘζđ ЫǺđє 02:46, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Permabanned. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 02:46, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Off to poker. Good luck you guys. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 03:00, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Blue Blade

proxy weilding, slash inducing probable alt of Gold Blade--Gage 01:57, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Is there an anti-proxy rule here? Plus, why would I make an alt like that if i KNEW I would have to clean up those slashes? --ĢΘζđ ЫǺđє 01:58, 16 September 2006 (BST)

I find it funny that you are cleaning them up every time...--Gage 02:36, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Cause they are annoying? --ĢΘζđ ЫǺđє 02:36, 16 September 2006 (BST)

I have seen your asking about proxies on the SW wiki, drop the act.--Gage 02:39, 16 September 2006 (BST)

JOESEPH!!!!!!!!--ĢΘζđ ЫǺđє 02:40, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Again....you're blaming your bro you say you have. Have you ever thought of....um....lets see.....uh....hackers? --Axe Hack 02:51, 16 September 2006 (BST)

He is bitter, believe me. Although hacking could be possible...though unlikely. I continually change my password. --ĢΘζđ ЫǺđє 02:52, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Speaking of hacking....~~I'm gonna do a lil' outside hacking and hack into a friend's computer(the same one who hacked into my computer and messed it up, but that was inside hacking.......).~~ Erm....nothing to see here....just debugging and redownloading things on my computer that's all. *WHISTLES* --Axe Hack 02:57, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Give me a fucking break. I saw the whole conversation... you are getting cosy with Amazing over there. "Can you help me get a proxy? I need to use one." - remember that comment?--Gage 03:00, 16 September 2006 (BST)

I remember it. Good call, Gage. Cyberbob Talk 04:52, 16 September 2006 (BST)

I want to take the sixth. --ĢΘζđ ЫǺđє 03:12, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Too bad the sixth amendment has to do with a fair and speedy trial. Take an American Government class, tool.--Gage 03:15, 16 September 2006 (BST)

I mean the fourth. --ĢΘζđ ЫǺđє 03:16, 16 September 2006 (BST)

That has to do with illegal searches and seizures. Try again. This time try looking it up. And keep in mind we don't really follow the American justice system here.--Gage 03:22, 16 September 2006 (BST)

The average of the two. --ĢΘζđ ЫǺđє 03:23, 16 September 2006 (BST) By the way, i think you can get someone epilectic aressted by making them have "An illegal seizure" --ĢΘζđ ЫǺđє 03:34, 16 September 2006 (BST)

If you are implying that I used the wrong word, you are an idiot. Look it up. It has two definitions.--Gage 03:39, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Pun. --ĢΘζđ ЫǺđє 03:44, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Proxy user, eh? Banned. The old family member argument holds precisely zero sway, Gold Blade. Cyberbob Talk 04:50, 16 September 2006 (BST)

I never said Blue blade was related to me... --ĢΘζđ ЫǺđє 04:59, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Actually, other than using a proxy, Blue Blade has done nothing wrong. I checked through his edits, they're all constructive. Proxies aren't banned here, are they? And there is no evidence based on hid edits to show he is a sockpuppet of mine or anyone elses', for that matter. So his ban really doesn't make any sense. Although I hope he learned something about names and damn crappy proxies. --ĢΘζđ ЫǺđє 05:07, 16 September 2006 (BST)

As do I. If you haven't got anything to hide, why use a proxy? Cyberbob Talk 05:08, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Um, he says he is worried about credit info stolen, which is a very valid reason elsewhere (no reason here though), and he probably has the internet autoset to that. --ĢΘζđ ЫǺđє 05:11, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Tell him that proxy users are viewed wth great suspicion here, and that he's just going to get himself banned if he tries that again. Cyberbob Talk 05:15, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Uh, how? --ĢΘζđ ЫǺđє 05:16, 16 September 2006 (BST)

By speaking into your bathroom mirror. Cyberbob Talk 13:21, 16 September 2006 (BST)

User:Four_page_wiki_vandal

I am turning myself in as I am the 3PWV. --Four page wiki vandal 01:09, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Uhhh...??????????????????? wtf? --Gold Blade 01:11, 16 September 2006 (BST)

DAMN! Look what he did to the suggestion page! And why the hell would he turn himself in if he's gonna get banned anyway??? --Axe Hack 01:12, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Again: What...The...Fuck?????????????????? --Gold Blade 01:13, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Ok....looks like GB reverted the vandal thing...can we get a mod in here? --Axe Hack 01:14, 16 September 2006 (BST)

I still have no idea what he thought he was doing... --ĢΘζđ ЫǺđє 01:21, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Cooperating? Who knows... --Daranz^{. talk . mod .} 01:22, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Disturbing. --ĢΘζđ ЫǺđє 01:35, 16 September 2006 (BST)

User:Tree_Page_Wiki_vandal

Nuff said. Permabanned. --Brizth ^{M T} 00:25, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Give us a chance

Permabanned vandal alt of 3page, proven via CheckUser. Additionally, I have placed a permaban on the IP address, and a two-week ban on the IP range containing the address (apparently a proxy), to guard against further vandalism. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 06:35, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Poor guy, his name just brokes my hearth. It's there a possibility that he isn't 3pwv and he was just coincidentally using the same proxy? I know it's stupid, but look at his name!! =P --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 06:37, 15 September 2006 (BST)

His IP address was used by Yadayada, Makjester, and Nostagliactic as well. I think it's safe to say that this person will not be a substantive contributer. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 06:42, 15 September 2006 (BST)

16,777,216 IP addresses blocked? A lil' extreme, don't you think? –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:00, 15 September 2006 (BST)

A two week ban of an open proxy? No, not extreme. You've banned address blocks of that size before, I believe. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 07:10, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Since when was 65,536 addresses anywhere near 16,777,216? As for the proxy itself, what is the actual range that they cover? It's preferable to have as few addresses blocked as practical, and if they only have 100.100.x.x – 100.101.x.x, well, you catch my drift. I'm just afraid of what'll happen if other moderators without the prerequisite knowledge to find out if it's an open proxy start tossing around range blocks like that. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:19, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Hop on MSN please so that we can discuss this more quickly. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 07:24, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Actually, never mind. I did a reverse lookup and then banned the specific CIDR range owned by the company who hosts the proxy. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 07:29, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Learned his lesson? Obviously not. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:00, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Does anyone else find the "us" reference to be funny? Are there multiple people or is he refering to himself in first person plural?--Gage 06:52, 15 September 2006 (BST)

It's probably Gold Blade and 3pwv whos the "us". - Jedaz - 12:50/21/12/2024 07:27, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Why would Gold Blade be vandalizing? Is he bitter?--Gage 09:19, 15 September 2006 (BST)

In short, I don't know for sure. But he was interested in proxys and so fourth on the Scroll Wars Wiki. And the 3pwv coming along at the same time probably wasn't a coincidence either. - Jedaz - 12:50/21/12/2024 09:24, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Yeah, i saw the proxy interest.--Gage 09:29, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Anyone consider what would happen if they used a proxy with IP's similar to AOL, or ISP's like that, that use a very small range of IP's over and over? NOT GOOD. --Gold Blade 22:27, 15 September 2006 (BST)

That's the price they pay for using a shitty ISP. It's AOL, for the love of god! How can people still use it ? Even here in brazil they service sucked. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 22:29, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Good point. Oh, and I got tired of getting random IP blockage, I think my IP adress got messed up and I assumed it was a mod doing that. So I got angry (Naturally). Then I realized it was my end that was messed up. I fixed it now. --Gold Blade 22:31, 15 September 2006 (BST)

If you knew how Internet addressing works, you'd know that IP addresses that are "similar" to blocked ones would not be affected. It's not some sort of heuristic test to see if addresses are similar, it's a block on a specific range of addresses owned by one company. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 22:55, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Its been done before, on another wiki. Half the users got bans. --Gold Blade 00:28, 16 September 2006 (BST)

Bob Hamero

Impersonator. Permabanned. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 04:55, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Was this done because the name was so similar to Bob's, or did this user actually pretend to be him? Is it against the rules to have a similar name to another user? Obviously, this user seems to want to impersonate, but I was curious as to where the line is. --Kiki Lottaboobs 05:55, 15 September 2006 (BST)

He not only has a name purposelly made to impersonate, but vandalized the ASS page a couple of times (Bob's old group). --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 05:59, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Because of the similiarity of name it would've earned him an instant permaban in most cases. There are some rare exceptions that will be made, like Grim and Grim s, but that's only because the core of the name is so common as to allow a very high probability that the name was chosen innocuously. If it were, for example, "Matt Fahrenheit" or "Kiki LottaBoobs", that would count as impersonation worthy of an instant permaban.

Also: if someone had been signing as "A Bothan Spy" for a long time before hand, and someone made an account under the same name, the user who signed like that is allowed to keep it while the account is banned. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 06:05, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Tough I still didn't have any impersonator =( (wants to feel loved). --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 06:07, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Be glad you're not Curps. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 06:15, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Thanks for clearing it up. This definitely is something that needs to be added to Impersonation Law. --Kiki Lottaboobs 07:45, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Yadayada

sockpupet. 3pwv. Golden ... whatever. Permabanned. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 04:22, 15 September 2006 (BST)

First, its just GB. Second: I got bored after the first one. --Gold Blade 22:35, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Makjester

another sockpuppet.--Gage 04:11, 15 September 2006 (BST)

GoldBlade should stop crying. His tears of retardness are going to rust the wiki.--Thari^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 04:13, 15 September 2006 (BST)

SIGH. Permabanned. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 04:15, 15 September 2006 (BST)

WRONG AGAIN! BOTH OF YOU. Gold blade is not experienced enough to have 30 proxies on hand. This is actually the 3page wiki vandal. I hate it when people try to put my credit on other people. Yadayada 04:17, 15 September 2006 (BST)

It's not me. 3page is sucking the proxy stream dry (I tested. 3p is gonna actually be permabanned before long.) --Gold Blade 22:32, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Nostagliactic

Sockpupet. Permabanned. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 04:01, 15 September 2006 (BST)

jedaz

Jedaz edited tripagewikivadles userpage with his permision. He put the ban tag on even though he was not banned. Either way this = vandalism. Nostagliactic 03:32, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Mistake made - probable vandal during series of bans got in accidentally. Not vandalism. If you feel it's a huge injustice, it could go to misconduct. You would, however, be advised to not use a sockpuppet account to do so. --Darth Sensitive

^W! 03:37, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Dude, fuck off. We all know he is going to get banned anyway.--Gage 03:41, 15 September 2006 (BST)

In fact, he was banned 2 minutes before you posted! --Darth Sensitive

^W! 03:42, 15 September 2006 (BST)

That'll teach him.--Gage 03:43, 15 September 2006 (BST)

My bad, must have posted right after he was banned. Even so though GOld blade did not give him permision to edit his userpage therefore it is still vandalism, so was every other placement of the banning tag. Nostagliactic 03:46, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Dude... you have no case... fuck off.--Gage 03:47, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Negative - mods get to add the banned templates. --Darth Sensitive

^W! 03:49, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Not vandalism. end of story. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 04:01, 15 September 2006 (BST)

You're a bit late. :P --Darth Sensitive

^W! 04:22, 15 September 2006 (BST)

whatever. My head hurts. You can start banning this sockpupets while i go and have some sleep. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 04:25, 15 September 2006 (BST)

That's what I'm doing too. Xoid seems to be on though. --Darth Sensitive

^W! 04:27, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Hey, I'm doing well, two vandalism cases in 4 days. I'm noticed =P But seriously I thought he was banned at the time that I put that up, my mistake. I'll be more careful in the future. - Jedaz - 12:50/21/12/2024 05:47, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Real3pwv

The dumb kid again. diff.--Thari^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 03:12, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Admitted vandal alt. Banned for forever + one day. --Darth Sensitive

^W! 03:14, 15 September 2006 (BST)

You can't do that. ∞ + 1 = ∞. HA! --Gage 03:20, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Do you doubt the power of the Dark Side? --Darth Sensitive

^W! 03:22, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Math > the Dark Side--Gage 03:29, 15 September 2006 (BST)

There you are wrong, young padawan. --Darth Sensitive

^W! 03:31, 15 September 2006 (BST)

I will vandalize everything I see

name?--Gage 03:08, 15 September 2006 (BST)

perma-banned based off this - Jedaz - 12:50/21/12/2024 03:09, 15 September 2006 (BST)

I saw that, but I wanted to get the report in as soon as possible. It looks like these two users may be connected, can you get the IP maybe?--Gage 03:12, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Gold blade quick! Brind Jedaz to Misconduct.Real3pwv 03:13, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Lol, doesn't work mate, it's a vandalism only account. Anyway I wouldn't get anything more then a slap on the wrist. - Jedaz - 12:50/21/12/2024 03:15, 15 September 2006 (BST)

TriPageWikiVandal

this + his name--Gage 02:59, 15 September 2006 (BST)

I thought it was humorous, going by its name. I didnt't bother reading it though. Now that I have, it might not be considered humorous. But the comment about his name stands.--Gage 03:03, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Yeah, thats what I thought about the suggestion as well until I read it. Anyway on the basis of the name, well I have a hunch that it's Gold Blade being stupid. Mind you though it looks like he's using a proxy... so I could just ban the IP. But since I'm not into banning users based off their name any more (although I did get the 3pv last time) I'll wait until he does something that I can warn/ban him for. - Jedaz - 12:50/21/12/2024 03:07, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Yeah and you can't ban him on impersination either becauce I GIVE HIM FULL PERMISION TO USE THAT NAME. So there. Real3pwv 03:09, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Hey, well as long as you don't do anything nasty then I'll be nice and let you stay. Oh, and thanks for confirming it was gold blade. - Jedaz - 12:50/21/12/2024 03:11, 15 September 2006 (BST)

I believe that this actually counts as vandalism. --Darth Sensitive

^W! 03:19, 15 September 2006 (BST)

I don't think so, unless being an unsufferable asshole counts.--Gage 03:29, 15 September 2006 (BST)

He's on questionable ground already - then makes a non-good faith contribution. It added nothing. But it's up to someone else to decide, not me. --Darth Sensitive

^W! 03:31, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Screw all this shit. His name is "3pwv", there is a bloody lot of precedent of people getting banned for having his name. Also a sockpuppet named "three page vulpix w-something". Xoid banned him just for his fucking name, and the sockpuppet started a misconduct case against him. Xoid won the case, precedent was set.--Thari^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 03:37, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Wrong'o my boy! Check the case, Xoid unbanned him and I think he is still unbanned to this day. Xoid just did not get unpromoted. Nostagliactic 03:42, 15 September 2006 (BST)

And thus precedent was set. Nostagliactic 03:43, 15 September 2006 (BST)

my point is lol banning obvius alts from the lol 3pwv won't get you unpromoted, Lol, i can use internets --a retarded user using a proxy 03:49, 15 September 2006 (BST)

There is some ways to get you permabanned in a second. One, create an account with the name PQN+number. Two, create a 3pwv account. Three, claim to be Amazing. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 03:48, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Like I said again, what about the 3pwvu account that was unbanned, there is no case on your part because you have yet to show a reason why he should have been banned, ie, hes not actually 3page, not impersination, precent has been set that you can create account resembling vandal accounts and it is not against the rule(check the MM case). Nostagliactic 03:52, 15 September 2006 (BST)

... begone Sockpupet. Banned. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 04:00, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Great example of mod corruption right here, did not even respond to nostagliactic, had no proof, and banned off of supicion without going through the VB page. Makjester 04:09, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Hate to say it, but I gotta. I told ya so. --Gold Blade 21:52, 15 September 2006 (BST)

Anyway, I was going to make that an actual suggestion (Minus the ridiculously long name, that was humorous.). I did not want him stealing that suggestion. Moron. Plus, its my bro whos been complaining I use this wiki too much. --Gold Blade 22:39, 15 September 2006 (BST)

R.Chandler

Vandalised GRR!'s group page. It's his only (double) edit, so either it's vandal alt or just a stupid newb. --Niilomaan ^GRR!•M! 09:01, 14 September 2006 (BST)

According to CheckUser, alt of Brasswatchman. Warned. --Brizth ^{M T} 09:07, 14 September 2006 (BST)

That explains it... One of those PFM scumsuckers. --Niilomaan ^GRR!•M! 09:22, 14 September 2006 (BST)

Yep. He did this edit just before switching the account. Multi-abuse anyone? Ironically it was that edit that confirmed that the IPs were the same. --Brizth ^{M T} 09:31, 14 September 2006 (BST)

Ken irons

Vandalized the DHPD page. He's also put stuff along those lines on our talk page - he'll be reported if he does it again. --Darth Sensitive ^W! 02:54, 14 September 2006 (BST)

Further Vandalizing resulting in Ban. Would another Mod please review the Bann and make it for an appropriate length of time. I Hit 1 year during Kens flurry of Deletion atempts. Conndraka^{mod T CFT} 02:58, 14 September 2006 (BST)

I'm undoing your ban Conn - you aren't impartial, and you jumped the gun. Someone not involved needs to handle this. Since my first post, there have been three more instances of vandalism. --Darth Sensitive

^W! 03:05, 14 September 2006 (BST)

I am pretty sure Ken Irons had more warnings than the one he has in reported vandal data. Anyway, this is clearly vandalism. Ken Irons is no fool, and surely knew that he would end up being punished by this. So. A warning for the first act of vandalism, a second warning for repeating them. This makes three warnings total, 1 day ban. But, i agree with conddraka that he deserves an 1 year ban. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 03:10, 14 September 2006 (BST)

Continued Vandalism under the name Usr:Rowanmayfair. See hIs statement in the History of the DHPD front page. Shows intent to continue, and willingness to do the same. Conndraka^{mod T CFT} 03:14, 14 September 2006 (BST)

I read that. What Ken might have forgotten, is that we already have his real IP stored in the wiki. We can trace him whenever we wish, and make sure he is punished for his crimes. Since he created a vandal account, i am expanding his ban for another 48h. :) --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 03:17, 14 September 2006 (BST)

CheckUser confirms it. --Darth Sensitive

^W! 03:36, 14 September 2006 (BST)

Gage

Policy Vote spamming -- it's already dying a horrible death, it doesn't need extra help. Also, a logout link as a signature Gage? That's pretty constructive. -- Rueful 19:29, 12 September 2006 (BST)

Regardless, his vote is still valid like any other user's on the wiki. As for the sig link, take it to Arbitration and/or write a policy dealing with said links, as it's not considered vandalism right now. – Nubis ^NWO 20:36, 12 September 2006 (BST)

In any case they should be allowed only one (1) vote. --Max Grivas ^{JG,T,Max4Mod,F!} 21:52, 12 September 2006 (BST)

Oh, I didn't see that I had already voted guys, sorry. Give me a break.--Gage 22:00, 12 September 2006 (BST)

Not vandalism. In the future be careful of the 2x voting, and you probably should change your sig link. It really isn't that funny. --Darth Sensitive

^W! 23:59, 12 September 2006 (BST)

Jedaz

Removed a suggestion from the suggestion page when it did not yet meet any criteria for removal.--Gage 18:07, 11 September 2006 (BST)

Well, the suggestion had 4 dupe votes, altough they pointed to two different suggestions. It's not clear cut if he was mistaken or not when he removed the suggestion because the rules don't especify too much on the issue. I say that you can hardly call this bad faith coming from Jedaz, thus... --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 18:48, 11 September 2006 (BST)

Are you kidding? They are very clear:

"Eligibility for Spamination is acheived if there are at least 7 Spam/Dupe votes and the number of Spam/Dupe votes are equal to 2/3rds or greater of the total number of votes, with the author vote included in all these tallies. In addition, A Moderator can if they so choose delete any suggestion with three or more Spams as long as Spams outnumber Keeps. This includes their own spam vote."--Gage 19:00, 11 September 2006 (BST)

Doesn't that talk about "eligibility for Spamination"? You discovered that Dupe votes add to the count as Spam ones when trying to Spaminate a suggestion, hooray! --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 19:13, 11 September 2006 (BST)

Anyways, if, and im saying if, I'm wrong, probably Jedaz was in the same mistake too. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 19:16, 11 September 2006 (BST)

Good point. I was under the impression that you needed at least 7 Dupes and 2/3 of the total votes in order to Dupify a suggestion. Can anyone clear this up? The rules seem to be lacking.--Gage 19:40, 11 September 2006 (BST)

The rules require three dupe votes on any suggestion, and a link to the dupe. – Nubis ^NWO 20:17, 11 September 2006 (BST)

Are you going by this wording? Dupe votes can be used to remove suggestions as described below. Dupe votes (if there are not three, or the votes are in some other way invalid) will not be counted when votes are tallied.? Because that says nothing of how many it takes to remove it. I hate the way these rules are written.--Gage 00:54, 12 September 2006 (BST)

Hey, I didn't notice this until now. Well if you really wanted me to I could just say that it was "spaminated" and count dupe votes as 1000000 Spams. Thats still a very valid way, but the rules are now changed so it's clearer. Since they wern't clear when I made the call I decided to use my best sense of judgement to do what I thought was right. Is it really a problem anyway? The suggestion was a clear duplicate and theres no point as to keep it on the suggestions page. - Jedaz 08:14, 12 September 2006 (BST)

I love your math! Priceless!--Gage 09:16, 12 September 2006 (BST)

I'm not really sure this requires a ruling but if so, consider it "not vandalism". The rules are poorly worded in this instance, and there is clearly no malice here, ∴ it was not bad faith, ∴ it was not vandalism. As to the rules themselves in this matter, I have always erred on the side of caution in regards to the possibility of a suggestion becoming "mod duped", but I see no reason why the provision would be there for spam votes, yet not for dupe votes. We've seen many instances of poorly written rules before where the intent was clear, but the wording ambiguous. I'm willing to claim this as another case of that. Mod dupes are allowed. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 09:41, 12 September 2006 (BST)

User:Nenogus AKA User:George Hayduke AKA User:George hayduke

This is not so much a report of vandalism but a request for these 3 users (actually, 2 users and an unexistant user) to have their vandal records unified and adjusted to reality, and if it's possible perform a Checkuser on them. While M/VD points that Nenogus had a single warning, User talk:Nenogus says otherwise (looks like he had at least a warning and a ban). I actually found this out when George hayduke sign linked to User:George Hayduke instead of his actual User: page, and that inexistant user's User: page was made by Nenogus. Also George hayduke seems to defend MWG page entitled as the author, but he wasn't the one who made it but Nenogus.

After this is made, please move the User:George Hayduke page and it's talk page to User:George hayduke, post the redirects that are left on Speedy Deletion under criterion 3 and notify him on his talk page so he corrects his signature to point to his actual User: page. That's all, thanks! --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 03:26, 11 September 2006 (BST)

Here is a revision of this page that includes the text of both the only warning and the ban imposed to Nenogus. Looks like he hadn't a second warning. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 04:00, 11 September 2006 (BST)

My bad. I meant to do this much earlier when I noticed it a couple of months ago, when I was first looking into that abomination of a page Duce Nuaks made. I'll do it now. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 05:37, 11 September 2006 (BST)

I love the smell of things well done in the morning! =) --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 06:05, 11 September 2006 (BST)

Some guy

Diff comparision. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 12:10, 10 September 2006 (BST)

Warned. Cyberbob Talk 12:11, 10 September 2006 (BST)

Waits

Account of 3pwv (aka. The Devil). Admitted here. Permabanned. I also blocked the IP used for being bloody annoying open proxy. --Brizth ^{M T} 09:44, 10 September 2006 (BST)

Moot

Another proxy-wielding sockpuppet. Its first edit indicates a knowledge of the history of the wiki. Cyberbob Talk 06:32, 10 September 2006 (BST)

Same--Gold Blade 06:47, 10 September 2006 (BST)

Permabanned. Cyberbob Talk 06:52, 10 September 2006 (BST)

Wiki master

Probably a sockpuppet, as its IP address is an open proxy. Cyberbob Talk 06:15, 10 September 2006 (BST)

Has also been banned from a number of sites (I googled the address) including Wikipedia (because of the proxyness) and a few forums. Cyberbob Talk 06:16, 10 September 2006 (BST)

Unless he votes, it really isn't an issue is it? Ignoring a Proxy account is as easy as ignoring anyone else. --Karlsbad 06:46, 10 September 2006 (BST)

Three page. I talked to him o the scroll wars wiki. --Gold Blade 06:47, 10 September 2006 (BST)

Do you have any links? Or screenshots at least?--Thari^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 06:50, 10 September 2006 (BST)

Doesn't matter. He just admitted it on Xoid's talk page. Permabanned. Cyberbob Talk 06:51, 10 September 2006 (BST)

Here ya go, anyway --Gold Blade 06:53, 10 September 2006 (BST)

The Fifth Horseman

Violated article four of the Arbitration Ruling where "The Fifth Horseman will not interact with Akule, AnimeSucks or DarkStar2374383 anywhere on this wiki. If you must contact any of them, it will not be through this wiki." Clearly by deleting parts of Akule's journal talk page and stating "(The arbitration verdict does not cover this page - M/A/Archive#The_Ruling)" he is attempting to circumvent the arbitration by not only vandalizing Akule's journal talk page, but to "get in one last dig" as it were. He then recreated the page a minute later here, but changed Akule's original design of the page, which he had no right to do. --Ahote 23:35, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Warned. Violates the letter of the rule in Part 4. Journal are owned in the same manner as User pages. --Darth Sensitive

^W! 00:43, 10 September 2006 (BST)

Wait, this edit was made only 4 minutes after an edit that was brought up in his previous vandal report. Does this mean that vandals can vandalize 3 different pages and get 3 different warnings? I was under the impression that this edit would fall under the previous report, correct me if I am wrong.--∴Gage 01:32, 10 September 2006 (BST)

Ooh... I don't know. My gut feeling is to retract it, but a little part says leave it. Other mods? --Darth Sensitive

^W! 01:57, 10 September 2006 (BST)

I have never seen anyone get warned twice for a series of vandal edits, and Ahote is just pissed off that TFH didn't get a larger sentence the first time. He just dug up another edit and submitted it to get him into more trouble, and it has worked so far.--∴Gage 02:31, 10 September 2006 (BST)

Retracting this warning would be the right thing, Darth. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 03:44, 10 September 2006 (BST)

It's gone. I'll go delete my comment from his page too. Warning Retracted. --Darth Sensitive

^W! 03:50, 10 September 2006 (BST)

To expand on what Hagnat said: if the second infraction happened after his last warning, then it should have been left. If it happened before his last warning, then it should be struck. That's the general idea, but if it's close you have to use your judgement. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 05:44, 10 September 2006 (BST)

Hm. I missed that edit summary, I was too busy looking at the actual changes to the page. Yes, the edit summary does count as interaction; he was clearly using the edit summary as a means of talking to Akule, which means that the first warning should be retracted, and a one day ban be given in its stead. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 06:29, 10 September 2006 (BST)

Thanks. At least someone understood the point I was trying to make. --Ahote 07:42, 11 September 2006 (BST)

'Tis done. Cyberbob Talk 07:45, 11 September 2006 (BST)

Gold Blade

Removed a fairly large chunk of discusson from Axe Hack's talk page. Regardless of the fact that it didn't really involve Axe Hack, Gold Blade should know by now that removing comments from other people's talk pages is a big no-no - no matter what the context. Cyberbob Talk 19:05, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Banned for 1 week. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 19:06, 9 September 2006 (BST)

FYI, I was ASKED to do that --Gold Blade 19:07, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Show me the comment on the wiki. No? He didn't ask you on the wiki? Too bad. It's happened to people before, and now it's just happened to you. Cyberbob Talk 19:08, 9 September 2006 (BST)

If Axe Hack validates the moving of text to Gold Blade's talk page, the ban will have to be retracted? --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 19:30, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Of course. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 19:32, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Thanks: restored my belief on the system. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 19:58, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Wow. Just...Wow. I am not saying I am for what Gold Blade said, but now I am somewhat Disillusioned with The System...--Canuhearmenow ^Hunt! 20:13, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Wait just a cotton-pick'n minute! Who brought up this VB case? NOT AXE HACK. It was our very own cyberbob. Show me the bad faith in this edit. Gold Blade and Axe Hack are friends for god's sake. I doubt gold would vandalize and good friend of his talk page. If Axe Hack did not want gold blade messing with his talk page then HE would have brought this VB case up. NOT a moderator who probably has something against Gold Blade and is trying to get him perma-banned based solely on damn technicallities! Do you guys really think that gold blade would purposefully vandalize a friends talk page? Not bad faith. Waits 21:54, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Hello sockpuppet! This is your first edit. Can someone user their magical CheckUser ability to unmask this imposter? Oh wait, he is using a proxy.--∴Gage 21:58, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Yep, open proxy. --Brizth ^{M T} 22:00, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Well he has a point: Axe and GB are friends. All that Axe has to say is "I asked him to" if he did, or "I don't care" if he didn't and *poof* the case is closed and it isn't vandalism.--∴Gage 22:04, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Hey. Let GB off the hook. I really don't care GB removed that chunk off my talk page. I only allow people to take things off my talk page if they have a reason why. In this case, GB is correct. The stuff he took out is about him, not me. And to me, thats a good enough reason as it is. --Axe Hack 23:12, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Unblocked. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 23:32, 9 September 2006 (BST)

No. This exact situation has happened before. It's called precedent, hagnat. Reblocked. Cyberbob Talk 03:41, 10 September 2006 (BST)

Xoid said that the right thing was unblocking him. If not for respect to your fellow mods, at least for common sense you should wait for a second opinion before reblock Gold Blade. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 03:46, 10 September 2006 (BST)

No. Xoid either wasn't involved in that case, or didn't remember it. I'm not backing down, here. I'd be biased against the original vandal if I did. Cyberbob Talk 03:55, 10 September 2006 (BST)

WHAT. THE. FUCK. IS. WRONG. WITH. YOU. PEOPLE. TODAY ?! --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 03:50, 10 September 2006 (BST)

I seriously don't care about him moving a chunk of stuff from my talk page to his. He had his reasons to do it. --Axe Hack 03:54, 10 September 2006 (BST)

Doesn't matter. Well, it would matter if the guy in the original case hadn't also given after-the-fact permission. But he did, so it doesn't. Cyberbob Talk 03:55, 10 September 2006 (BST)

Bob, i dont know what to say man. First of all, this was not your decision, since you were the one who filled this case. Second, Xoid himself said that Golden should be unblocked as soon as Axe Hack said that it was OK for him to remove that thing out of his talk page. Third, link for the precedent please ? --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 03:58, 10 September 2006 (BST)

And fourth... dont come asking for advices from *some idiot* again. Mmkay. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 03:59, 10 September 2006 (BST)

One. This wasn't your decision either, and Xoid plainly didn't remember the other case. Two. We don't have an "if you fix it, you're off the hook" principle. Three. Sure - give me a minute to dig it up. Cyberbob Talk 04:02, 10 September 2006 (BST)

Four. Do you see me caring? Your decisionmaking process is for shit. Cyberbob Talk 04:03, 10 September 2006 (BST)

Here it is. It's the case at the top: Bonefiver's. I guess Xoid was involved in t. He must've forgotten. Cyberbob Talk 04:11, 10 September 2006 (BST)

Wow, um, alright; precident is that Users get Warned if they Vandalize a Page (easy enough) precident ALSO says that once a the affected party gives permision, as seen HERE, the warning or banning will be retracted, with a verbal admonishment that ALL PERMISIONS TO EDIT USER PAGES MUST BE ON-WIKI!. I don't care if you are implied to be husband-and-wife, only through wiki-information should this be enforced. So therefore, if Axe Hack is giving the right to edit his user page to Axe Hack, it can be dropped. --Karlsbad 04:12, 10 September 2006 (BST)
P.S. I realize that this is from June 28th. I remember it. I hope you all will now too.

Oh. I must've missed that. Ah yes, I remember. My exams were coming up and I had to study up for them. Sorry, guys. Cyberbob Talk 04:15, 10 September 2006 (BST)

CumBubbbble

User contributions. Vandalized the Philosophe Knights page in his only two edits. --Blig 03:58, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Warned. --Karlsbad 04:06, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Um, the person's only two edits are vandalism. Combined with the name, I think it's safe to say that this is not a serious user. Permabanned. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 09:44, 9 September 2006 (BST)

The Fifth Horseman

Vandalised the Cannibal Corps page. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 11:12, 8 September 2006 (BST)

He has now made an Arbitration violation. And another. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 11:20, 8 September 2006 (BST)

If you actually took note of the contents of the edit made to Cannibal Corps page, I have only removed false information on my subject inserted by Akule. If you actually think twice on the subject, you'll figure out what was the purpose he inserted it for.

Fact is, I have not been frozen, and have not been zerging in the first place despite numerous attempts by Akule and his associates to accuse me of that, including their creation of three zerg accounts that have been used to accuse me of zerging at Desensitized.

Second fact is that Akule was completely aware that the information he has posted has been false.

The other two edits did not involve posting any messages. Per the arbitration verdict, I am not allowed to post any messages on the respective pages. This does not mean I am not allowed to make any edits to them. --The Fifth Horseman 11:25, 8 September 2006 (BST)

Do you take me for a fool? I know what his intent was, I simply do not care. You can't force him to do jack without another arbitration case.

You claim it is false, they claim it is not. It doesn't matter; you can't edit another group's page and alter anything more than a typo on it without their permission, ∴ vandalism.
I'll concede that while the exact wording would let it slide as an arbitration violation (despite the fact that letting you edit their talk page at will was not my intention). Regardless, it still counts as vandalism.

–Xoid ^S•T•FU! 11:41, 8 September 2006 (BST)

TFH, it doesn't matter how false the info is on a group's page. Why, even if the C(reedy)DF stated that they are honest players without a hint of facsism in their organisation, I wouldn't be allowed to remove it. You need. Express. Permission. From. The. Group. Put your request for said permission it on a group member's personal talk page, if you're banned from the group talk page (which you also violated). Warned. Cyberbob Talk 14:23, 8 September 2006 (BST)

I'd like to appeal this decision in lieu of a tougher sentence, such as a 24 ban. Anime Sucks was banned for 24 hours for a single violation while The Fifth Horseman has made three violations and shown no remorse for his actions. Or does this mean that DarkStar2374383, Akule, and Anime Sucks can edit the Abandoned and The Fifth Horseman's wiki page and only receive a warning? --Ahote 23:03, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Sentences don't get tougher by the simple request of users. Non serial vandals, when they reach their third vandal report ruled against them, get a 24 hour ban. Period. If he managed to make three vandalic acts before the actual ruling it doesn't matter much: they're considered one and the same. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 23:08, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Even though they go against an arbitration ruling? --Ahote 23:12, 9 September 2006 (BST)

I'm not really familiar with arbitration rulings, and if vandalism and violation of an arbitration ruling at once grants two escalations of the warnings/bannings instead of one. I'll leave that response to someone more qualified. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 23:18, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Even tho I got banned for one day for breaking an arbitration ruling just once, and that being my only "vandalism"--The Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks ^{Talk | CC CPFOAS DOЯIS Judge LOE ZHU} 23:21, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Didn't you read Xoid's comment above? He didn't post a message, which was how the arbitration ruling was phrased.--∴Gage 23:37, 9 September 2006 (BST)

I did. Which is why I wanted the clarification made in order to prevent all four of them from being able to exploit that loophole and cause another arbitration. --Ahote 23:41, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Lemonade

vandalized the The 4-H group page.--Thari^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 08:27, 8 September 2006 (BST)

Warned. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 08:42, 8 September 2006 (BST)

Check his contributions, he has about a dozen vandal edits. Isn't that a permaban?--∴Gage 09:06, 8 September 2006 (BST)

Yep, seems that he doesn't have anything but vandal edits. Permabanned. --Brizth ^{M T} 09:46, 8 September 2006 (BST)

Matthew Fahrenheit

Spammed people's talk pages with crap regarding his mod bid. Cyberbob Talk 06:56, 8 September 2006 (BST)

Doesn't precedent say that it's vandalism when you spam more than 12 pages? I didn't mean to abuse the system anyways, I'm just dying to gather feedback, as there were so many bids lately that probably guys that voted on other ones didn't know that I added mine. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 07:03, 8 September 2006 (BST)

Not vandalism. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:41, 8 September 2006 (BST)

Lorosidiotas

Whining kids with no sense of humor strike again! I just caught it today, and I will not stand for this kind of crap.--Thom Flask 02:32, 8 September 2006 (BST)

Warned. --overlord hagnat ^mod 03:02, 8 September 2006 (BST)

The archivar

At it again. He absoutely refuses to sign his posts properly. Considering there actually IS a Danny_Floyd, I'd say this falls under impersonation. --Sirens^{T RR} 17:44, 7 September 2006 (BST)

... Danny Floid user was created AFTER the archivar signed his edit with that name. While i dont understand why he sign this way, i will not warrant him any warning (this time) and just ask him to link his signature to his user page. If he ever repeat this kind of mistake, then he shall be warned. --overlord hagnat ^mod 18:14, 7 September 2006 (BST)

The guy is the noobiest of all noobs, ever --∴Gage 18:12, 7 September 2006 (BST)

Please, comment on vandal cases only if you have anything constructive to say. --overlord hagnat ^mod 18:14, 7 September 2006 (BST)

What I meant was that this guy is a noob, and probably not a bad faith editor.--∴Gage 18:19, 7 September 2006 (BST)

Ahhh! Saying this way is a lot better than the way you did before. Learn to write things in a less offensive way, Gage. --overlord hagnat ^mod 18:23, 7 September 2006 (BST)

Actually, now that I think about it, this guy has been warned for this before. Xoid has told him multiple times how to do it, and he received a warning.--∴Gage 18:29, 7 September 2006 (BST)

The only problem with this ruling? He's been warned about it before (Edit: What Gage said) --Sirens^{T RR} 18:30, 7 September 2006 (BST)

Is there an echo in here?--∴Gage 19:46, 7 September 2006 (BST)

I am not stupid, you know ? I went to this user talk page and Xoid was there teaching how to sign and a warning for impersonation. I just reinforced how to properly sign, and that he should sign that way. C'mon, you all were noobs once, give this guy a break. --overlord hagnat ^mod 19:59, 7 September 2006 (BST)

I don't see it as a newbie mistake when 1.) He's already been told AND warned not to do it, and 2.) When I was a newbie signing my posts properly was common sense to me. I didn't know about the signature button, so I typed them by hand, but I still did it the right way. --Sirens^{T RR} 20:18, 7 September 2006 (BST)

Great mia. Not all newbs are as smart as you. Now, please, stop trying to teach me how to do my work. --overlord hagnat ^mod 21:01, 7 September 2006 (BST)

Exactly how many times does this need to be explained in detail before it is considered vandalism, Hagnat? I've told him on Talk:Grigg Heights, I've told him on his talk page, I've even told him in game before I PKed him! Seriously, you'd think he'd get it by now. Just because something was not done in "bad faith" does not make it undisruptive. If someone went around blanking pages and we knew for a fact that it was not bad faith yet they were too thick to understand a simple instruction to not do it, would they get a warning? In real life when somebody doesn't know any better, yet they continue to break rules, they eventually get sent off to an asylum. While you could arguably say the wiki already is one, har har, we have to do something. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:21, 8 September 2006 (BST)

Gold Blade

Posted an humorous suggestion on the Suggestions page. Violation of rule 13. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 01:17, 7 September 2006 (BST)

Not so much humorous as just extremely shitty. Gold Blade is 'just visiting' Jail this time around. – Nubis ^NWO 01:26, 7 September 2006 (BST)

Yeah, it's borderline, I wanted to check other people's oppinion on the matter. It's so shitty that it's almost offensive: Mr.A. at least post serious game suggestions, but Gold Blade's suggestion is even more overpowered that some of the humorous ones. Basically it's AP=IP hits for zombies. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 01:38, 7 September 2006 (BST)

I am exremely sorry about that, but I couldnt get it out of my head. I will try to make up for this with a very good suggestion. --Gold Blade 01:51, 7 September 2006 (BST)

Wait, are you ruling that it's not vandalism and just a "shitty" suggestions Nubis? I'm sorry but I can't take that as a serious suggesion and I doubt anyone else would. Gold Blade has been around for long enough to know that it's not acceptable to post suggestions of such nature. Mind you though I do agree that it's not "humorous", but it's obviously not a serious suggestion. I think it's vandalism but since Nubis doesn't think so I'll wait for another moderators opinion before I do anything. - Jedaz 05:57, 7 September 2006 (BST)

Given the knowledge I had of it at the time, and some of the other shitty suggestions I've seen pumped out, the best decision for me to make was to say that it wasn't a bannable offence. Considering what Gold Blade said afterward nulled that decision. – Nubis ^NWO 19:58, 7 September 2006 (BST)

I agree with Jedaz. That's just too damn stupid to be serious. Cyberbob Talk 06:05, 7 September 2006 (BST)

Agree as well. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 06:06, 7 September 2006 (BST)

Agreed, look at this edit.--∴Gage 06:08, 7 September 2006 (BST)

Since it is agreed that it's vandalism I shall ban Gold Blade for 48 hours in accordance to the guidelines. That is the final ruling. - Jedaz 06:10, 7 September 2006 (BST)

If we're all in agreement, then Gold Blade is banned for 48. Cyberbob Talk 06:09, 7 September 2006 (BST)

You bet me to the punch =P - Jedaz 06:11, 7 September 2006 (BST)

CaptainM

Vandalized the suggestions page by posting a suggestion that attacks a user of the wiki. Evidence - Jedaz 08:06, 6 September 2006 (BST)

Even without that, it's a "humorous" suggestion and warrants a warning. Warned. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 08:43, 6 September 2006 (BST)

DAMN! I would have voted Keep. --Niilomaan ^GRR!•M! 10:28, 6 September 2006 (BST)

So would I, Niilomaan, so would I. --Axe Hack 15:53, 6 September 2006 (BST)

Please keep your commentary to yourself unless it directly pertains to the case at hand. Thank you. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 17:12, 6 September 2006 (BST)

Flounce and CaptainM

Timestamps on edits obtained from CheckUser strongly suggest that Flounce, CaptainM, and the newly-permabanned vandal Titties are all the same person (example for non-moderators: CaptainM edited at 19:35, Flounce edited at 19:41, and Titties edited at 19:44). I suggest an immediate permaban of the two other accounts as precedent has established is standard. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 21:53, 4 September 2006 (BST)

Even if Flouce is an alt, there is plenty of precedent for allowing those: Xoid has one, as does hagnat IIRC. Flounce made no vandal edit.--∴Gage 23:05, 4 September 2006 (BST)

Also, precedent (including Gage I must say) dictates that a vandal alt from a normal user is granted with a permaban and the escalation on the warnings/bannings status of the main account. Permabans for both sounds a little harsh: if what Gage said is true then just make a note that they're the same guy on M/VD. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 23:15, 4 September 2006 (BST)

Timestamps on edits obtained from CheckUser strongly suggest that Flounce, CaptainM, and the newly-permabanned vandal Titties are all the same person - I thought we could prove this now. What is wrong?--∴Gage 00:04, 5 September 2006 (BST)

The language is what's wrong. All three accounts have been using the same IP. – Nubis ^NWO 00:13, 5 September 2006 (BST)

Ah. Going by what Bob said, it sounds like you didn't know for sure.--∴Gage 00:15, 5 September 2006 (BST)

I think thew point was that it showed that they were the same person, and not two different people coming from the same computer (i.e. brother/sister/roomate). --Ybbor^T 01:00, 5 September 2006 (BST)

It's of course impossible to know whether there are multiple persons behind one computer. We just assume that there's always one person per computer. Otherwise we wouldn't be able to ban or warn anyone as they would always blaim the other person. --Brizth ^{M T} 01:15, 5 September 2006 (BST)

Since when i have an Alt ? I always used this account. --overlord hagnat ^mod 01:25, 5 September 2006 (BST)

Does User:DangerReport ring a bell? –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 05:42, 5 September 2006 (BST)

I don't think we actually have any precedent for this. 3pwv was a bit different case, with so many cases of vandalism over the months. All the alt bannings/ban escalations have dealt with already banned users bypassing their bans (Amazing/Tito/God). According the current rules the only thing I could do is to give warning to CaptainM/Flounce for vandalism. But it would be nice if someone else gave their opinion. --Brizth ^{M T} 00:18, 5 September 2006 (BST)

Actually I remember a certain case involving yours truly where an alt was created to vandalize the wiki. The offending party received a warning and the vandal account was warned: precedent.--∴Gage 00:36, 5 September 2006 (BST)

Ah yes. After checking VD, logs and this page's history, I found the case. User:Labine50isdumb I assume? If so, then I'm going to warn CaptainM/Flounce --Brizth ^{M T} 01:15, 5 September 2006 (BST)

Well, but in that case I admitted that it was me, whereas in this case I am not so sure that we can rule out brother/sister/roomate activity. CaptainM, in my experience, has always been a reliable wiki editor.--∴Gage 01:59, 5 September 2006 (BST)

So? What does that have to do with anything? You becoming an elitist now, eh? Cyberbob Talk 02:19, 5 September 2006 (BST)

Well, to start my brother and father both have UD accounts and wiki accounts, I don't know how often they even come to the wiki, or if they've even made any edits, but they have accounts somewhere. —CaptainM— ^((Talk)) 02:32, 5 September 2006 (BST)

How can you ask so? This is the whole crux of the issue.--∴Gage 02:29, 5 September 2006 (BST)

You're an idiot. An elitist idiot. What you're saying is, that because he's a reliable editor he should be given the benefit of the doubt - implying that if he wasn't, he should be pretty much auto-punished. For shame. Cyberbob Talk 02:40, 5 September 2006 (BST)

You got me on the elitism; I trust people who have given me a reason to be trusted over people who haven't.--∴Gage 03:32, 5 September 2006 (BST)

Ooh...great comeback! One glaring flaw, however. You shouldn't even be considering people's defences. The facts (remember them?) are all that you should be looking at. Since the facts all point to alt accounts... (almost) anyone will lie in their defence if they think it'll get them off the hook, Gage. I seem to remember one particular case when a member of ASS vandalised, then tried to lie about it. Who was that, again? I seem to have forgotten. Can you refresh my memory, Gage? Cyberbob Talk 03:44, 5 September 2006 (BST)

Touche, as long as you agree there is nothing wrong with elitism :)--∴Gage 04:10, 5 September 2006 (BST)

Flounce and CaptainM should at the very least receive a warning, if not an outright ban. The data is never conclusive that two accounts are run by the same people, for those nay-sayers who ask why I worded my report the way I did, but we have to operate under the assumption that only one person uses one computer unless we have strong, independent reasons to believe otherwise. The data that we do have indicate that CaptainM edited the wiki, shortly thereafter Flounce edited the wiki, and shortly after that Titties began vandalizing the wiki. There is a possibility that three different people all used the same computer in that time, but we have no way of proving it, and it does not seem likely considering the timeframe in which the edits happened. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 03:18, 5 September 2006 (BST)

If I received a warning, I think it would be unfair to ban him for the same offense.--∴Gage 03:32, 5 September 2006 (BST)

Seconded. Cyberbob Talk 04:12, 5 September 2006 (BST)

Then how about a warning, someone? Or do you guys want me to challenge the no report-warn/ban pseudo-rule by doing it myself? –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 04:25, 5 September 2006 (BST)

Sure. I'll do it. Cyberbob Talk 04:33, 5 September 2006 (BST)

Thanks. Make sure you note that the three accounts are the same person. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 04:40, 5 September 2006 (BST)

Titties

whee!--∴Gage 20:50, 4 September 2006 (BST)

Check his user contributions: 4 vandal edits. I have reverted all of them.--∴Gage 20:55, 4 September 2006 (BST)

Permabanned. Check User points to CaptainM. – Nubis ^NWO 21:03, 4 September 2006 (BST)

ehhhh... i think i just did something really really bad to the wiki... --overlord hagnat ^mod 21:04, 4 September 2006 (BST)

I noticed that you went around reverting my reverts :)--∴Gage 21:06, 4 September 2006 (BST)

I must have hit the wrong Contribs button and hit yours. I was reverting all your edits from the wiki when i noticed that there was something wrong there... especially when i saw the result of the rollback (which looked like vandalized pages). Anyway, everything is back to normal... Sorry for any trouble. --overlord hagnat ^mod 21:10, 4 September 2006 (BST)

Jd

Permaban. Spambot. Vandalized Talk:Main Page. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 00:36, 3 September 2006 (BST)

Threepwvv

Banned by Cyberbob by admitting being the 3pwv.--Thari^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 18:31, 2 September 2006 (BST)

Uh, he's already banned. Plus, it's obvious. So you don't really have to put this up. --Gold Blade ^Hunt! 18:32, 2 September 2006 (BST)

Shut it, Gold Blade. It's standard practice to put up people (yes, even 3page) who have been banned. Cyberbob Talk 18:36, 2 September 2006 (BST)

but he's already banned. And lose the attitude. --Gold Blade ^Hunt! 18:38, 2 September 2006 (BST)

Well, for the record Threepwvvv was banned by Cyberbob as well. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 18:40, 2 September 2006 (BST)

My attitude? You, who's been trying to have Xoid banned from editing your talk page, is telling me to lose my attidude? What a laugh! Cyberbob Talk 18:41, 2 September 2006 (BST)

Yes, your attitude. I wasnt the one who came attacking someone else about something thats a full week old. --Gold Blade ^Hunt! 18:42, 2 September 2006 (BST)

Stop acting like children. Does it really matter? – Nubis ^NWO 18:45, 2 September 2006 (BST)

A full week old? I must ask, whom was the edit insulting Mr Aushvitz earlier today made by, hm? Oh yes, that's right. You. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 18:48, 2 September 2006 (BST)

Gold Blade, if you don't have something substantive to say, don't say anything at all. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 19:29, 2 September 2006 (BST)

Visit his user page, he says he is going to Scroll Wars!--∴Gage 19:51, 2 September 2006 (BST)

Eh, he was interesting. Maybe he's bluffing...--Canuhearmenow ^Hunt! 19:58, 2 September 2006 (BST)

Rheingold

created this page and immediately posted it on Speedy Deletion and casted a keep in an obvious act of bad faith to preserve an (obviously) offtopic page for 2 weeks. I request the afformentioned page to be deleted as any page created in an act of vandalism. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 19:12, 1 September 2006 (BST)

Warned. I will leave it up to someone else to decide the fate of his new "policy." –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 19:17, 1 September 2006 (BST)

Ok. You're my hero Bob =). --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 19:18, 1 September 2006 (BST)

The Speedy Delete page does not say that voting Keep on one's own page is illegal. If this is indeed a rule then it should hopefully be clarified. The intent of my action was not bad faith: I'm going to be AFK for a day in a few minutes, so I wanted to move the page to Deletions voting (where, just like Saromu's page, it belongs). Equivalently I could have sat here for the next few hours pressing Refresh waiting for someone else to Speedy it, and voted Keep, which would have had exactly the same effect. My action was not intended to game the system nor did I intend to abuse or vandalize the Wiki. Rheingold 19:28, 1 September 2006 (BST)

You created a page that was useless and admited it! Sounds like bad faith to me!--∴Gage 19:37, 1 September 2006 (BST)

Not useless. Read the Speedy Delete page: pages that may generate controversy should be discussed on deletions. If my page is useless so is Sonny's. Where's his vandal banning?

I'm going now but if the page is deleted without someone giving a link re: precedent I will request an Arbitration to clarify the Speedy Deletion rules. Rheingold 19:47, 1 September 2006 (BST)

Hurr – Nubis ^NWO 20:55, 1 September 2006 (BST)

Mmmkay. Off topic page. Check. Author Edit Only. Check. Author vote denied. Check. Yeah, your policy was deleted, and you have received a warning. Have a nice day, citizen. --overlord hagnat ^mod 19:57, 1 September 2006 (BST)

Yeah, see Rheingold, that's the whole point. Your intention from the very beginning was to stall whatever deletion request was made, because you knew the page should be deleted. That's bad faith. That's vandalism. That's why you got a warning. Have a nice day, as Hagnat said. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 22:32, 1 September 2006 (BST)

That was possibly the third dumbest thing I have ever seen.--Gold Blade ^Hunt! 22:39, 1 September 2006 (BST)

(the first two were MrAushvitz suggestions)--∴Gage 23:25, 1 September 2006 (BST)

No, the second dumbest was a math thing called reflex property (For any number X, X=X. No duh). The absoloute dumbest thing ever was MrAushvitz finding the Suggestions Page. --Gold Blade ^Hunt! 16:25, 2 September 2006 (BST)

Assassins guild assassin

Blatanly vandalism of PhK group page.--Thari^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 04:31, 1 September 2006 (BST)

Warned. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 04:35, 1 September 2006 (BST)

He has continued to move pages and vandalise them, on top of threatening to create more accounts. Blocked for two hours. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 06:55, 1 September 2006 (BST)

HA! He has emailed me, threatening to go to another library to continue vandalising the wiki if I IP Range block him. Christ, and I thought I had too much time on my hands. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:35, 1 September 2006 (BST)

That's just sad... --Niilomaan ^GRR!•M! 07:54, 1 September 2006 (BST)

Judging by his userpage, I think he's an Amazing alt...or at least someone who plans to follow in his footsteps. --Sirens^{T RR} 23:23, 1 September 2006 (BST)

Probably just his boyfriend, 3 page. Again. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 02:57, 2 September 2006 (BST)

Blue Command Vic/Cheezymadman

This user went and created another account to get around Criterion 11. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 04:27, 1 September 2006 (BST)

Permabanned the old one and warned the current one. Cyberbob Talk 07:22, 1 September 2006 (BST)

Saromu

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I really, really hate to do this, but he threatened to do it to me if I reverted the suberb danger rating in Stanbury Village, so I guess I'd better resopond in kind, lest he beat me to the punch.

I downgraded the place to safe because there are all of 15 zombies wandering around in it. That's not vandalism, it's using the wiki as any rational person would. Trying to make it vandalism is simple bullying and it's ridiculous. The suburb page does not belong to Saromu and he does not have the right to revert every edit that he disagrees with. His reverting my update is vandalism and I'll wait to change things back until after things are said and done here.

Saromu, I'm sorry things have come to this, but I've done everything I can to avoid it. --Ron Burgundy 16:16, 31 August 2006 (BST)

N O T _ V A N D A L I S M. For the same reasons i said your case of Vamdalism was not. Please, discuss this here, and stop accusing others from vandalism when they down/upgrade a suburb danger level. --overlord hagnat ^mod 16:46, 31 August 2006 (BST)

I've never accused anyone of vandalism and I'm not familiar with "my case" of vandalism you mentioned. Perhaps you're confusing me with someone else. Anyway, I think this is vandalism not because he's changed it, but because he does so belligerently and, therefore, in bad faith, trying to make suburbs he claims look more dangerous than they are for the sake of arrogance. --Ron Burgundy 01:23, 1 September 2006 (BST)

I believe Hagnat is referring to the case below wherein he dismissed Saromu's claim that you were guilty of vandalism. -- Alan Watson ^{Talk · MalTel} 02:19, 1 September 2006 (BST)

hur--∴Gage 04:32, 1 September 2006 (BST)

Har Har, I wasn't even aware of that. --Ron Burgundy 06:15, 1 September 2006 (BST)

Remember malton, stay ~~clueless~~ classy!--∴Gage 07:28, 1 September 2006 (BST)

I'm just gonna pretend that it was part of the act. :) --Ron Burgundy 07:39, 1 September 2006 (BST)

I couldn't resist :P--∴Gage 07:41, 1 September 2006 (BST)

You should have. Cyberbob Talk 07:44, 1 September 2006 (BST)

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