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== AS User Page ==
== talk archive activity ==


Leave it as is, don't bother deleting the contributions from Isgaru. The info is *mostly accurate* and could come in handy for someone down the road.--[[User:Agent Sandman|Agent Sandman]] 03:08, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
How depressing it is to see the archives clumped together more and more until there's three years in a single archive. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 01:20, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
:No worries. Thanks for the quick reply. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 03:09, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
:I know, right? Seems faintly ridiculous to be acknowledging that something with “dead” in the name is dying, but here we are… {{User:Revenant/Sig}} {{Goonsig|Revenant}} 07:57, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
::Indeed. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 10:38, 25 May 2020 (UTC)


Happy New Year! Hope you had a fireworkalicious ferked erp evening. We have net in our room! So expect 3 days of constant udwiki-ing! {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 03:38, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
== A/PM ==
:=O --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 03:50, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
==Mudkip!==
Mwuhahahaha!  Miss me?  Of course you didn't. ;D --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 15:50, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
:=O --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 16:12, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
::What's wrong?  You look like you just seen a ghost. ;) --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 16:13, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
:::=O --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 16:13, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


NEW MANHUNT!! =D --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 16:13, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Come on. You know you miss it. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 05:11, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
:Probably not.  Maybe next time, huh?  Still working out a few kinks on my newly repaired PC. (Yes...It took me nearly 6 months just to get working on that PC... >< ) --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 16:16, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
:I do... {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 05:16, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
::But you know what?  Since I've been out for ages, I've decided to give you all a new music quiz to play around with. =P --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 16:21, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
:::But...But... it's still about yu-gi-oh... :*( --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 16:39, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
::::Eh.  Better then nothing at the moment. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 16:39, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::OK, the YGOTAS stuff is done for...Time to resume the regular program...Enjoy. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 16:49, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


==Re: nation library edit:==


==WINDOWS 7 BUDDAY==
Good Morning,
[http://gizmodo.com/5440159/understanding-windows-7s-godmode This is awesome.]--[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkTurquoise">¯</span>]] 23:50, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for the information and understanding. It's been years since I used this site.
:Pretty coolo, I guess... --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 23:57, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
I have made the accurate correction this time. Nation is up. Looking at it right now.
::<nowiki>:/</nowiki>--[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkTurquoise">¯</span>]] 00:00, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Also, the Danger Report notification at the top of the edit box does specify it is to be NPOV,
:::I is scared my computer crash :*( --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 00:00, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
I was trying to help that person, but went about it wrong. I will do better.
::::We just tried it on four different 7s, 64bit and 32. It works fine, and is awesome.--[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkTurquoise">¯</span>]] 00:03, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm sure the usual problem makers will try to tie me to their enemy, but the fact is I was just trying to keep things as accurate as possible. Time for some people to grow up and learn this is not their game, nor their site, and we're all just guests of the creator.
:::::Kewl! Why can't you be sysopppp and warn mee --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 00:04, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Take care.  {{User:Neutral objector}} 04:30, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
::::::Because I gotta wait two weeks. :/ --[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkTurquoise">¯</span>]] 00:13, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::<(^o^<) Emoticon unrelated--{{User:OrangeGaf/Sig}} 00:18, 6 January 2010 (UTC)


==Warning==
== A/V report ==
[[Image:Stop_hand.png|left|35px]]Please do not post other people's personal details on this wiki. Continuing this behaviour may lead to your editing privileges being revoked. <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup></span> 00:17 6 January 2010 (BST)</small>


Even if I had actually been the one to make the edit in question, A/V policy is to contact the user and try to work it out with them <b>before</b> aggressively filing a report to get them punished, to promote good faith and newbie-friendliness in the community. I note that my talk page is still nonexistent. If you had left me a message instead of rushing to A/V, perhaps we could have worked out some of the smaller details like "I have never edited the page you accused me of vandalizing." --[[User:Envious|Ɛňvϊoцᵴ]] ([[User talk:Envious|talk]]) 16:21, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
:I had a brain fart making a report about the wrong account, apologies there. I copied the most recent A/VB report over while on the run and somehow didn't remember to change it to the actual accused. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 22:03, 14 May 2018 (UTC)


== Protected? ==
== gdpr ==


Couldn't remember if [[Suggestion:20091219_Alt_Proximity_Warning|suggestions]] get protected after the voting is done or not, and looking through some old ones is inconclusive, since some are protected and others aren't. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 08:18, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
was there any discussion about it on the wiki ? --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 14:45, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
:They are, it's [[A/G#Scheduled_Protections|scheduled.]] {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 21:25, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
:Not that I'm aware of. It's on Kevan, so our lack of discussion here on the wiki is not really surprising. Frankly, given that he cut off payments from UK customers to comply with updated business regulations a few years back, I was half expecting that the wiki and game might suddenly shut down so that he wouldn't have to worry about any potential GDPR compliance issues, but that hasn't happened (yet). {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 17:06, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
::Thanks for the link. I knew we had a list of scheduled protections somewhere, but I couldn't remember where off the top of my head. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:57, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
:No. I'm not really the person to discuss the GDPR thing. I honestly don't really know much about it at all, so if anyone else wants to chime in with thoughts, please do. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 03:47, 26 May 2018 (UTC)


==Yo==
== Archive of your suggestion ==


I hear you're being a badass on the wiki, tut tut. In other news i want a new sig, any thoughts? {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 12:54, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
I was going to back it up for you, then noticed you already did. The idea is not bad, too bad kevan has not decided to do this. He seems to be active still on his main site. --{{User:Gardenator/sig}} 06:06, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
:Actually, I kind of like your sig. It's simplistic yet stylistic in it's own way. :( --[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkTurquoise">¯</span>]] 12:56, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks, I figured Kevan would never ever see it, but it’s fun to suggest things and I enjoy keeping them archived somewhere to remember them. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 12:37, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
::Well i have no idea if you're being sarcastic, I'm vain like that but i'll take it as a compliment anyway. I also like it but i've been kind of put off since some random nub replying to me called me 'Alim'. In the words of that bitch from the ting tings, thats not my name (although it is awesome) and what with all these people on the wiki who i barely know i think i need to reassert my (lack of) authority with a bold new sig. Feel free to help in some random sandbox. Maybe [[User:J3D/SA can edit here unless i change my mind|this one]]? {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 13:01, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
:Great job cleaning out the suggestions section by the way. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 12:40, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
:::No sarcasm at all, promise. I can't come up with sigs too well on my own if you hadn't noticed, and make them decent. :( Sorry.--[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkTurquoise">¯</span>]] 13:04, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
::::Just gimme something [[wikipedia:Manly, NSW|manly!]] {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 13:16, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, I've been a bit of a bastard lately. On an issue related to my stressed out demeanor, I guess I might explain where I've been; I've been kicked out of home so I don't know when it will be than I can consistently edit again. For clarification, lately I ''have'' had minimal internet access but have chosen not to come back extensively because the occasional stress of UDWiki isn't what I need in my situation, but even despite these events I still plan on attending all Crat duties as they roll in, eg. SA's bid. As for a sig, just do something annoying and blue, should suffice. Unless you're passed plugging that [[ALiM]] garbage, but should I even hope? ;D --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 13:34, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
::Who kicked you out? was it that bitch midget cleaner?/ I knew it! Actually did she ever exist...?? Also - i'm not ''over'' alim, i still love it. its just my new roll on the wiki is that of standing up for the supressed little people under your regime. Not your as in you, more as in ''the others'' *evil eyes* {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 13:58, 10 January 2010 (UTC)


== [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Suggestion%3A20100108_New_Candy_Each_Year&diff=1642676&oldid=1642675 this] ==
== that's not ==


his justification is "-" GOSHHHHHHHHHH --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 07:28, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Deletions&curid=156506&diff=2355302&oldid=2355238#Wrong_image_type an interwiki link augh] it's just a wikilink
:I will fight you! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 07:30, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
::Boxing gloves, brass knuckles, or bare-handed? --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 07:36, 12 January 2010 (UTC)


==Signature==
[[wikipedia:Wikipedia|this is an interwiki link]]
I am trying to change my sig to a new look, but the template I made seems incorrect. The appearance of it is fine but the date stamp is huge. How do i fix it to look normal?
--{{User:Creeping Crud/sig}} 03:14, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
:I found your problem. You forgot a <nowiki></span></nowiki> at the end of your userpage link. I threw it in, and it appears to be working now. Don't worry too much, it happens to the best of us!--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 03:27, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
:Sorry, I was at work so I couldn't help you out until Hawk had already done it. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 15:17, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
::Thankyou for the help. Cheers! --{{User:Creeping Crud/sig}} 16:05, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


==Advice==
yes it bothered me enough to come post on your page about it
I'm thinking of making a very public show of the fact I believe a group is systematically zerging on a large scale. I plan to list all the allegations on a page in my usespace. Now thats in no way vandalism is it? Im assuming as its my own page I can protect it myself as well? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:21, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
:Having an opinion isn't vandalism, and there's no control that the admins can exercise over a user's comments (barring stuff that goes against the TOU.) And sysop sub-pages aren't a scheduled protection, but I don't think anyone would care if you protected it. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 11:24, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
:All of those things are fine by this wiki's guidelines, userpages can have any POV material and you won't be misconducted for protecting it yourself. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 12:40, 14 January 2010 (UTC) --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 12:02, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
::Yeh go get 'em ross!--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 13:25, 14 January 2010 (UTC)


What the fuck is this tou and where did it come from? Its too long to bother reading but it seems to me to be some sort of sysop conspiracy. I've never been vandalismised for breaking it before...what the fuck is happening! !{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 08:51, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
yes I know that's ridiculous
:The TOU page has been around for at leased a year i'm pretty sure, made as a project by SA to sort of add a codified list of things that could/couldn't be done on the wiki lest it jeopardise Kevan's ownership of the site and to make sure nothing we do takes it down. Conndraka used to be pretty big on it. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 09:11, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
::I'll add by saying that most of the stuff against the TOU was considered vandalism/misconduct before it was even created into a page, so you never really had much of an excuse anyway ;D --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 09:12, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
:::^--[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkTurquoise">¯</span>]] 09:32, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
::::You americans and your dislike of free speech, i understand. {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 07:21, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::It's always to do with race with you isn't it? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 08:04, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::ja, i was gonna call them amerifags but thought i'd end up at the butt end of the TOU :( {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 04:51, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::No, see, adding -fag onto the end of things is generally accepted on the internet, aussiefag. And the term is Americunt, btw.--[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkTurquoise">¯</span>]] 12:41, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::::And saying the n word isn't on the net? [http://www.stormfront.org right?] Yeah you know i agree with you, the rules here re:racism should be based around whats accepted on the internet. {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 07:31, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::I agree, stop saying that -fag shit SA it's about as funny as syphilis {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 09:56, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::Please tell me you didn't miss the point of that and you were just being dumb for the hell of it.--[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkTurquoise">¯</span>]] 11:29, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::lmao {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 09:49, 17 January 2010 (UTC)


== So... ==
anyway how have you been?


It's nearly been a couple of months since my last bid. Think I'll be ready to run again by the end of the month? I've been really good, and avoided drama! 0:D --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:19, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
{{User:Revenant/Sig}} {{Goonsig|Revenant}} 11:11, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
:Yeah, you've done okay I guess. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 00:18, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
:Hey, things are good, thank you. I hope you are too.
:Would you be able to let me know where I made the mistake? I remember trying a couple of Wikipedia links in the last week, so I’m not sure where I got it wrong. Thanks. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 12:30, 8 July 2018 (UTC)


==hey on the topic of de-escalations==
== Pardus and associated pages ==
just had an idea which might stop people like jed abusing the system forever while appeasing the people who think de-escalations have value: only allowing people a limited number of de-escalations (thinking between 3-5). y/n? {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 06:36, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
:That's a good idea. I have a few ideas relating to that now so I'll give it some thought and add some more ideas later tonight. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 06:39, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
:Personally, I'd just lengthen the time that they have to wait between de-escalations. Instead of 1 months (plus a certain number of edits), I'd bump it up to 6 months. Career vandals wouldn't be able to exist if they only got two de-escalations a year, but for people genuinely trying to reform, it'd give them a way to work it off over time. If you only allow a fixed number of de-escalations, eventually you'll start losing contributing members who get a warning every now and then (e.g. based on A/VD, we'd be close to or would have already lost both you and SA had the fixed-number system been in place from the start). {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 07:12, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
::What makes you think that SA and I would have allowed ourselves to rack up so many escalations in the first place if we were only allowed a limited number of de-escalations? As for the people "genuinely trying to reform", that was the whole point of having warnings come before bans in the first place. I don't have much sympathy for people that would need more than 3-5 de-escalations (not to mention all the various degrees of bannage before the perma) to "genuinely reform". {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 08:43, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks for showing your faith in me ich. Thanks a lot.--[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkTurquoise">¯</span>]] 11:10, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
:::I think he's going by pure numbers of escalations under the current system, which is dumb. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 12:05, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
::::^+1--[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkTurquoise">¯</span>]] 12:24, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::Ok, well, clearly the point I was trying to make did not get communicated. Whatever. <s>SA is dumb</s>, and that point isn't important (if you really want to argue it, hit me up on IRC). In any case, if users could average, at most, one escalation every six months without getting banned, that means that unless they stuck around for a few years, it'd actually be more strict than using a fixed number, while also being more forgiving in the long-term. To me, that seems like a win-win, since it keeps reform while eliminating the possibility of career vandals. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 12:52, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::Or they could get the fucking message after however many chances we give them. You know, either-or. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 13:13, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Indeed, they could, but then we'd call it a win-lose instead. I just don't see the need to throw the baby out with the bath water here. I mean, if your solution was the only way, I would definitely support it since it's an improvement over what we have. But from what I can see, there are other ways to curb vandalism, and not all of them sacrifice reform in the process. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 13:29, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Who here actually needs more than 3 de-escalations? Misconduct ones don't count as an escalation for this purpose.--[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkTurquoise">¯</span>]] 13:32, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Sometimes I miss the simple things when I get caught up in the concept. I think SA just pointed out a simple thing that changes my mind. He's right. There really aren't people that would need that many, and reform should've taken place well before that if it was going to happen at all. As silly as it sounds after all that, I'm convinced. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 12:08, 19 January 2010 (UTC)


And suddenly the power of sysops triples...{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 07:35, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Seems that the user Pyropardus is taking over user Pardus and other associated pages.  Afaik, this should not be done.  http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Special:Contributions/Pyropardus  --{{User:Gardenator/sig}} 22:40, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
:if you wouldn't keep on trying to be an edgy fuck hatin against da man all the time this wouldn't even affect you, piss off {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 09:54, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
:I'm interested to hear what you think- I saw those and interpreted it as the same user coming back under a new account (perhaps they forgot their old password) and just reclaiming their old projects, which isn't uncommon. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/tcs}} 22:53, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
:This is 2010 buddy, the "go against the sysops for the sake of it" culture went out in 2008 with Wan and Grim and the goons. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 10:51, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
::Particularly because all they've done on that group page is do a couple of small spelling fixes, etc. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/tcs}} 22:54, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
::You don't think a policy such a this overpowers sysops by making vandalism that much worse? The current system works because if you are targeted by sysops or whatever a warning isn't really an issue coz you can work it off. Have you noticed how shoddy most vandalism decisions are? If something like this was brought in you'd want to make damn sure every ruling of vandalism was 100% deserved and maybe actually start bringing about some serious punishment for sysops who have no idea what they're doing and flippyflop around making rulings based on whos dick they're sucking at the time. Just a thought. {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 09:44, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Ok, and that is fine reasoning; however, Pyropardus blanked user Pardus's page and erased quite a bit of data off of two other pages.  Now compare that to user Igotmadenoughtomakeanewaccount, who was warned for making edits to user Shaqfu's page.  There was some back and forth so it was apparent that Shaqfu didn't want the edit to his page. The edits were the addition of two templates, one of which called user A Helpful Little Gnome a "five alarm fuckwit". That appeared to draw user A Helpful Little Gnome into creating a V/B case against user Igotmadenoughtomakeanewaccount.
:::u mad? {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 10:20, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh my, having a talking to about bias in the sysop position by J3D really boggles my mind. Take Aichon's A/VD example and tell me how many users will have been disadvantaged by this, who didn't deserve it in the first place. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 15:19, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
::::And it is an idiotic stance to back up anyway, sysops are put in the position under the assumption they can handle such buttons in a responsible way. Whether or not such users should have gained the position in the past is a totally different matter- but what you have is a case of a pretty unmerited persecution complex, which just tries to turn the aim of the policy away from stopping career vandals onto the topic of how the already working A/VB system can be misused by an overzealous sysop. It's a different issue entirely and, if it were even true, will have been a problem for years, not something to just bring up in this instance. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 15:29, 20 January 2010 (UTC)


== Quick Question... ==
:::What I really don't like is the precedent this could set. Does this mean that anyone can make a new account like say user NewMartyBanks, and then proceed to edit user MartyBanks profile and erase large portions of the group he is associated with?--{{User:Gardenator/sig}} 02:43, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
::::I convinced myself to make the V/B case.--{{User:Gardenator/sig}} 02:59, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::Sure. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/tcs}} 05:52, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::So just to put my 2c in now the case is done is I'm pleased you bought the case forward because it can be better to be safe than sorry, and I'm cool with that, although I consider the precedent you seem wary of to simply be "assuming good faith", which is the vibe I got from the whole situation (luckily I was right, though I could have easily been wrong and looked like a tit). Nothing wrong with escalating an issue because no one else has brought anything up because of assumptions. I think you did the right thing. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/tcs}} 16:37, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, I was wary for that above reason, plus I think pardus was one of the free speech for all people we were arguing with on discord.  I wanted to make the issue known before when I first noticed it, but I wanted to wait to see of there were anymore edits.  It did get some humorous stuff going when bob and pyropadus started edit warring.  --{{User:Gardenator/sig}} 16:53, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::::Yeah. That was weird and hilarious. I hadn't made the potential connection with the account and the latest Discord issues. That would have made it definitely checking up. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/tcs}} 16:56, 18 August 2018 (UTC)


Could I get '''[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Player_Killing_for_Noobs&diff=1647239&oldid=1647229 this page]''' reverted back to its earliest form? I could probably do it myself, but seeing that you've put it up for A/SD, I thought I'd ask first... it could be expanded on, in it's original form anyway. -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 00:48, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
== Warning (Totes Official) ==
:Yeah, that's fine. I just stuck the A/SD tag up on it to categorise it, but I wasn't going to actually put it forward for a few days since he only wiped it half an hour ago. I fixed up his errors and reverted it for you. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 00:53, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
::I'm sorry, I didn't realize that was what was happening.... you want a category for it? I'd be willing to adopt it to our groups category for a while... I just thought it was nice the way it was in the begining. -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 01:00, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh, nevermind, I was just trying to kill two birds with one stone because in either state (wiped or reverted) it was likely to be deleted within the month. Either way, the template wasn't necessary and I'm happy to keep it up if people are willing to expand on it a bit. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 01:02, 21 January 2010 (UTC)


== Image restoration ==
[[Image:Stop_hand.png|left|35px]] Please stop telling people they should feel honored to be warned by me. It's weird. Continuing to do so may result in additional requests of this variety. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 08:22, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
:What an honour! I was just about to joke about how now I can use this 'warning' to fulfil another bucket list item by sending you to misconduct... But I just checked through your archive and it turns out I already did! I even got you banned! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 08:37, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
::But for real, please don’t leave Aichon... 😢 {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 21:15, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
:::I'll still generally be available if someone pings me, but I don't plan to check in on my own otherwise. There's enough other stuff going on to keep me busy in life, and those things are the areas I'd like to be putting more of my attention going forward, so it's time to clear out the old time sinks that I've allowed to accumulate. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 23:54, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
::::Good call. We all have to do it eventually. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 02:10, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
:::::Very apropos that one of the biggest time-sinks in my life, tumblr, seems to be collapsing as we speak. More time for me to dedicate to danger updates! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 02:44, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
::::::Chin up Bob, if it’s nude photos you’re gonna be missing from Tumblr then let me tell you a bit about a thing we call the internet! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 10:41, 4 December 2018 (UTC)


Can you please restore Image:MCDU7Plaque.jpg? It was removed from the associated page without permission, which has since been corrected. Thank you! {{unsigned|Weeks}}
== Note of inactivity  ==
:Sorry about the long delay, I've been out of town for the last few days. I've reuploaded the image and you can find it [[:Image:MCDU7Plaque.jpg|at the same spot as before]]. Have a nice day! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 05:26, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
::It's all good, I wasn't in a hurry or anything and we all have lives outside of UD. Thank you for the assistance :) [[User:Weeks|Weeks]] 17:20, 23 January 2010 (UTC)


==Sub cat?==
I’m in PNG for the upcoming week. I don’t expect to have decent access to internet. I return home on Saturday. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 11:09, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
Make WS a subcat of metagame tools and stick all the appropriate pages in there you think? -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 05:08, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
:At least they didn't send you to crummy JPG or inefficient BMP. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 21:34, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
:I don't think that's necessary- WS is already a good information page, no need to move it into a category space just now. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 05:11, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
::The way the internet is here I think a BMP would put me out for several hours. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 04:17, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
:::<nowiki>*</nowiki>shakes head* Shoulda gone to SVG, lbr. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 04:31, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
:Oh wow. Surprised I missed this note earlier. Have fun there. Don't let your time get compressed or your luggage get returned to you in a lossy state. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:17, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
::Fingers crossed... {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 04:17, 12 December 2018 (UTC)


Objections to me placing a note about cycling unaccepted nominations in the box on the GA page? -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 14:50, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
== dammit ==
:No problem with that. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 15:01, 30 January 2010 (UTC)


==haha yeah bro==
[https://photos.app.goo.gl/bTvDPFUKzftVTh8v5 our sigs are busted on Chrome for Android] {{:(}} {{User:Revenant/Sig}} {{Goonsig|Revenant}} 03:55, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
totally gonna put everything I need to do IRL on hold for a shit wiki about a shit browser game that appears to be going through a dull spell anyway. i'll get back in the game as soon as I can, don't worry {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 04:10, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
:Weak. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 03:57, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
:whoa, lrn2joke much :/ and besides what you just said means near nothing to me, because my point is if you have the time to bitch via talk pages of policy discussions you have time to go to A/VB first and help with week-old cases (which I never cycled cause I was the only dude to rule on them in the first place). I don't mind you not being here, I mind it more when you come here after 6 days and stir the few users editing seriously. And I don't know whether you think I did, but I guess I'll say it now; that I didn't cycle the PD just to get the last word in, you know I've been itching to do it for days and SA came on MSN and confirmed so I just went ahead. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 04:17, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
::P sure I did make a few edits to A/VB in the last few days, and 6 days is seriously nothing - how you can go on about it like it's some massive hiatus is beyond me. (no i didn't think you cycled it to get the last word) {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 04:34, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
:::He forgot to mention he woke me up while I was sleeping on my keyboard to ask me that. :/ --[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkTurquoise">Big</span>]][[User:Cyberbob240/Classifications|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> Cat</span>]] 04:58, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
:::I would appreciate it if you read what I said in future, again, you haven't addressed the only concern I ever actually expressed- it isn't that you didn't edit in 6 days, it is that you came back and trolled and fuelled a bitchfight rather than actually help around. If you have nothing to actually respond in relation to ''that'', I don't actually care what you have to say. In fact, since the admin queues have been eliminated, I don't actually care about what you say regardless. If you don't give a fuck about the 6 day thing, then don't come crying to me so much. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 07:55, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::::u mad? {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 09:44, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::You aren't serious, right? I've been trying to turn my back on your crying for 24 hours now. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 09:45, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::u mad. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 09:46, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Hmm. Another battle for the last word. Look, you can have it Sir Butthurt, I have a wiki to maintain. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 09:47, 7 February 2010 (UTC)


==re: op==
== Speedy deletions  ==
Meh, your comments before were justified. I was getting in to all sorts of nonsense, and I wasn't ready to be an op. I needed to mature as a wiki user, and devote more time to actually upholding and sorting through stuff on the wiki.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:36, 7 February 2010 (UTC)


== You-Know-What ==
Hi, just in case it doesn't get noticed now traffic on the wiki is so low, could you take care of my request? Wish you the best! --[[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: darkblue; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: gold; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 19:31, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
:All good. Thanks. All the best to you and farewell mate. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 01:55, 7 March 2019 (UTC)


It's troubling me that it's taking up 3/4 of the wiki sidebar's adbox, and the page looks to now be a much more malignant (and obvious) phishing attempt. Is there any way we can have these links removed?--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 04:23, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
== Note of inactivity (2) ==
:From project wonderful? Damn, I didn't notice, I changed my udwiki skin through preferences so the ads wouldn't appear anymore. You'd have to contact Kevan, I believe, and seriously, I think the new change is more of a reference to what he sees when he tries to edit the wiki "you have been banned" etc? Not sure. Either way, Project Wonderful is an issue I think only Kevan can fix, although I'll be sure to contact them via [http://www.projectwonderful.com/ their site] about it tomorrow morning. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 08:53, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
::In the meantime adblock is a semi-viable temporary solution, I've had that thing on the list for ages. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 09:03, 18 February 2010 (UTC)


== Memes Category ==
From the 17th of March to the 7th of April I will be travelling to NYC, Toronto and London for work and may have poor access to UDWiki. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 02:04, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
:Nice! {{User:Revenant/Sig}} {{Goonsig|Revenant}} 09:43, 7 March 2019 (UTC)


Is there any reason our meme template category is spelt [[:Category:MeMe Templates]]? I've never seen it with a second capital M before and it's annoying me. Since you're the category bot, could you fix it if it is wrong? {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 18:48, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
==  Signature and template questions ==
: SO I HEARD YOU LIEK THE KIPS OF THE MUD? --{{User:Imthatguy/sig}} 19:03, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
::That do be parsed wrongly. Shouldn't have a second capital, unless of course that in and of itself is a joke I'm not getting. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 21:59, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
:On it, will do after work finishes. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 22:14, 19 February 2010 (UTC)


Done. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 22:51, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
:Thank you almighty recategorizer. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:01, 21 February 2010 (UTC)


==Hey==
I appreciate your help, DDR.  Since you are knowledgeable about signatures, perhaps you could point me to a link that shows/explains how to take a descriptive two-line string of code that delineates a signature ("font-family", etc.) and turns it into the compact form such as your <nowiki>[[User:DDR|DDR]]</nowiki>. I want to be able to turn the strings of descriptors in mine to the compact version of [[Catherine Cushing|Lizzie Donner]].  I made up a signature for each alt and put them on the bottom of my homepage, User: Catherine Cushing. I feel like the code isn't written up properly somehow. Maybe that's because I don't understand any of it (just filched it from other peoples' pages.)
I think it's time for my re-evaluation though I might have the timezones messed up {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 09:13, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
:Nah, you're right. I'll throw you up unless you want to do it yourself? Either way. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 09:28, 21 February 2010 (UTC)


== Template ==
Since I wrote that I did find a place that I think explains how to make a nice signature properly. It is: https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_intro.asp


I can never remember what the template call is, and I can't by bothered to copypasta it. Basically, it's just a huge case of cbf.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 11:03, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Have some fun in London. I haven't been there in 18 months (I'm in Oregon, above the Pacific in the USA.) It was August and the weather in Whitby was perfection. {{unsigned|Catherine Cushing}}I forgot; sorry.[[User:Catherine Cushing|<span style="font-family:Goudy Old Style;color:#008080;font-size:small">Catherine Cushing</span>]] [[User talk:Catherine Cushing|<span style="color:#F74A4A;font-size:small;font-family:Goudy Old Style">(talk)</span>]]But the signature I tried to write doesn't have the time and date in it!!!--[[User:Catherine Cushing|Catherine Cushing]] ([[User talk:Catherine Cushing|talk]]) 10:38, 12 March 2019 (UTC)


== Not a problem ==
:Hey Catherine. Thanks for the well wishes for London. I'm excited to see it.
:So I think there are two solutions to your questions. Please correct me if you have more questions or if I didn't quite understand your queries (it's been a while since I've really troubleshot signatures).
:The first answer to your question is possibly best answered [[Help:Signatures#Customized_Signatures|here]], with some examples of signature styles etc. that will still help you out with coding and what codes might make your signatures look like what.
:As for your second question, I have a complex signature that appears in code just as '''<nowiki>{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}}</nowiki>'''when I type my <nowiki>"~~~~"</nowiki>. The way you do that is to go to preferences (top right of this whole page) and go to signature and you add '''<nowiki>{{SUBST:Nosubst|User:YOUR SIG HERE}}</nowiki>.''' So for example, mine says right now, ''' <nowiki>{{SUBST:Nosubst|User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}}</nowiki>'''. You are able to go to the real page of [[User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5]] and see the code for yourself, but thanks to this nifty trick, all that code doesn't end up on a page every time I type the signature, the wiki just uses that code as a template.
:Does that help you at all? {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 09:44, 12 March 2019 (UTC)


Hope I did everything correctly.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 18:36, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
::That is extremely helpful and very kind of you, DDR, thank you.  (I didn't realize until just now that the signatures I composed have no date and time stamping function included. Ugh.) --[[User:Catherine Cushing|Catherine Cushing]] ([[User talk:Catherine Cushing|talk]]) 10:38, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
:while I'm here, albeit several hours later, don't the two re-evaluatiosn need to be cycled? Because they're a week, and not two weeks, like PMs? I dunno. Just notifying you in case you hadn't realised/ seen it.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 21:26, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
:::You can manually add the timestamp! Just type in <nowiki>~~~~~</nowiki> after you put in the template to show the sig you want. Also, if you create a separate page for each signature (just like DDR has) then those pages can be used as the template coding then adding in the five tildes afterwards. You might want to ask Bob what he does, as he switches between signatures depending on what he is doing on the wiki. He has his main one, but then for danger status updates, he often uses his Danger Updater signature. So he might be able to give you another point of view on how to do things with your alt's signatures :) {{User:Stelar/sig}} 11:16, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
::Hot damn, I totally forgot they were 1 week. Since Boxy's been gone for so long, I'll cycle them within 24 hours. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 22:33, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
::::For my side signatures, I have a subpage for them (just like a regular signature), e.g. at [[User:Bob Moncrief/DUSig]]. Then, I type ''<nowiki>{{User:Bob Moncrief/DUSig}} ~~~~~</nowiki>'', which transcludes the side signature and then adds just the timestamp (with five tildes, as opposed to four tildes, which would also include my regular signature). {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 11:58, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
:::::Thanks all for pitching in to answer that third query that I skimmed past... Basically as Bob and Stelar have said above in regards to getting your 'alternate' signatures to appear as though you are speaking as one of your alts. (Might as well do one for this here message, by manually typing an old sig and then adding the 5 tildes.) {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig2}} 04:10, 13 March 2019 (UTC)


== Vandalism? ==
::::::This is fantastically generous of you all, and I actually understand it!!! (I believe it has also illuminated the idea of posting a template one has made on a file page, so that it actually works out in the UD Wiki world.) I can't tell you how incredibly grateful I am for your help. P.S. I wasn't sure I was allowed to insert a live link for something outside the UD Wiki, so I put spaces into the address for that w3 school tutorial thingee I found. [[User:Catherine Cushing|<span style="font-family:Goudy Old Style;color:#008080;font-size:small">Catherine Cushing</span>]] [[User talk:Catherine Cushing|<span style="color:#F74A4A;font-size:small;font-family:Goudy Old Style">(talk)</span>]] 08:58, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
:::::::You're welcome! Never be afraid to ask a question, there will always be someone around that can answer it! The wiki can be a bit confusing until you get the hang of it. {{User:Stelar/sig}} 10:44, 14 March 2019 (UTC)


Would something '''[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Poodle_of_doom&redirect=no#Deliberately_Posting_at_the_top like this]''' be considered vandalism? -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 22:29, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
== Sorry to see you go! ==
:No. Or I could have half the wiki banned. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 22:30, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
::You talk like that's something you would actually desire. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 22:51, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
:Nah, talk page rules are just made by the talk page owners and therefore not following them isn't justifiable as vandalism. You'd have to arbies him first. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 22:34, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
::Even considering the fact that it was an edit intentionally made in bad faith? Just curious, I'm not looking to force the issue to much... -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 22:36, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
:::Yep, even considering that, and that's the lamest part about it. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 22:42, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
::::If you don't like the rule, why not change it? :P {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 01:54, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::Old(ish) convo is old(ish), but how well-received would a policy be stating that user talk pages can be governed by additional rules set by the owning user, which are treated with the same weight as any other rules, provided they don't contravene pre-existing rules? It sounds reasonable to me but I'm not gonna write a proposal up for something I'm not gonna use unless others actually want it. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 14:19, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::Hmm. Talk pages are just for communication and anything beyond what the wiki offers as a template for talk page communication (I'm talking about the "+") is a luxury in my opinion. It depends exactly what you want out of the policy, Mis, if it's regarding blatant annoying behaviour like Imthatguy above then it could have a chance but my immediate fear would be making a policy that is abusable by troublemakers. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 14:32, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::That's what I was thinking myself. It'd probably need more clauses than would really be worthwhile in order to not make it work. Though I have an idea for something else similar that I just need to figure out how to phrase and I'll bring it to one of the discussion pages. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 14:39, 6 March 2010 (UTC)


== Orphans ==
Just received your message: "Editor's summary: Term as crat has finished". I wanted to thank you for all your help and kind advice. Be well. [[User:Catherine Cushing|<span style="font-family:Goudy Old Style;color:#008080;font-size:small">'''Catherine Cushing'''</span>]] [[User talk:Catherine Cushing|<span style="color:#F74A4A;font-size:small;font-family:Goudy Old Style">(talk)</span>]] 23:27, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
:Hey Catherine, thanks for your well wishes, but no need to worry- I’m still an administrator, nothing has really changed in practical terms. I’ve just handed the role of beaurecrat (a slightly higher position with an added admin responsibility) to Bob Moncrief. It’s ok and I’ll still be around 👍 {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 01:42, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
::Well, that's good news! I'm glad you both got a well-deserved promotion and that you will still be around. (Promise not to pester you for advice, though. ;) ) [[User:Catherine Cushing|<span style="font-family:Goudy Old Style;color:#008080;font-size:small">'''Catherine Cushing'''</span>]] [[User talk:Catherine Cushing|<span style="color:#F74A4A;font-size:small;font-family:Goudy Old Style">(talk)</span>]] 02:05, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
:::Feel free to ask us for any advice Catherine! It's what we are here for. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 00:24, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
::::When I make pancakes the first one always sticks and gets fucked up. Any advice for me? -- [[file:SomethingSomething.gif|link=http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User:Jack's_Inflamed_Sense_Of_Rejection]] 20:36, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
:::::Hmm. That's a tough one. I'd recommend doing an Open Discussion for a meandering session to gain consensus on the issue, vote on the best way through Policy Discussion and if you continue to have issues bring the suggesters to Arbitration so we can bring out justice to the troublemakers. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 22:59, 19 June 2019 (UTC)


Yeah, but since then, he's updated the page loads. I don't really see a point in deleting the newbies which have only existed for sometimes a minute when I post the orphan template. :P If it's anythign older, I'm more likely to have a look, but we don't really get older ones anymore.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 08:00, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
== Thanks for fixing that posting, DDR. ==


== Signature help. ==
I'm not sure when I'm supposed to sign things I write (except messages like this one, obviously.) The revised parks list just seemed to be important enough to be able to back up with my work list, to document, in other words. [[User:Catherine Cushing|<span style="font-family:Goudy Old Style;color:#008080;font-size:small">'''Catherine Cushing'''</span>]] [[User talk:Catherine Cushing|<span style="color:#F74A4A;font-size:small;font-family:Goudy Old Style">(talk)</span>]] 04:58, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
:For pages like that, I'd just make the edit, and put the reasoning in the edit summary. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 12:01, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
::That should have occurred to me, Bob. I'll do that if any similar situation comes up. Thanks. [[User:Catherine Cushing|<span style="font-family:Goudy Old Style;color:#008080;font-size:small">'''Catherine Cushing'''</span>]] [[User talk:Catherine Cushing|<span style="color:#F74A4A;font-size:small;font-family:Goudy Old Style">(talk)</span>]] 10:10, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
:No problem. Out of curiosity, where’d you get the newer count? {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 12:05, 2 July 2019 (UTC)


Hey dance!, Remember when you helped me with my sig back in july? Well it its broken...I have no idea what is wrong with it.. Heres the problem.
== Note of Inactivity (3) ==


--{{User:Suffery/sig}} 22:56, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
From the 7th of September to the 31st of October, I will be traveling through Europe and my access to the wiki will be sporadic. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 03:27, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
:And now in Mexico until mid November. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 04:13, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
::ur a butt, u butt {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 23:09, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
:::👍 {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 11:06, 24 November 2019 (UTC)


== Jisor ==


I want it to be this
Was I not supposed to edit his talk page? --{{User:Gardenator/sig}} 03:13, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
<font size="1">[[User:Suffery|<span style="color:purple">Suff</span>]][[User Talk:Suffery|<span style="color: pink">♥:3</span>]] [[User:Suffery/Point|<span style="color: green"><-- Thats me!</span>]]</font>
:That’s 100% my fault. I must have accidentally clicked revert. Have undone the revert, apologies. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 03:34, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
::It is ok, I actually cannot even see the comment I made but I think that was his intention. --{{User:Gardenator/sig}} 22:42, 18 March 2020 (UTC)


But the date stamp is messing up, It doesent matter what i revert it too. When you get the time can you help me? Its highly appreciated. thanks :)
== [[A/RE]] ==


So... demote everyone? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 15:40, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
:I don’t know french, but I think it’s safe to say everyone’s passed. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 14:40, 25 July 2020 (UTC)


:I just made the same edit as you a second later. {{Grr}}--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 23:11, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
== Inactivity ==


== FA Nominations ==
I am consistently semi active. --[[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness/Quiz|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[The Great Suburb Group Massacre|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]<sup>[[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: DarkRed">Want a Location Image?]] </span> </sup>  15:06, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
:I prefer to describe myself as inconsistently inactive. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 04:57, 5 December 2020 (UTC)


The new [[UDWiki:Featured_Articles/Good_Articles#New_Nominations|FA Nominations]] are supposed to be cycled after 7 days, and there are two that have been up for over two weeks each. It could use some tending too,... but I felt uncomfortable doing so myself since one of them is something I nominated, and I'm not a moderator,... could I have you look into it when ever you get an oppertunity? -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 03:23, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
== Deleting Pages ==
:Oh, absolutely, thanks for the reminder (and I didn't even know they were 7 days :S) --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 03:54, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks a lot! -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 12:25, 20 March 2010 (UTC)


== Eyewitness  ==
Well hello again! I remember your name from back in the day, and I recently came back myself. Just wanted to say hi. Anyway... There's a couple pages that I had created, that I won't use/have no use for anymore. I was looking for some help on deleting them. These are the pages in question. Thanks!
 
*http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User:Dark_Blue_Helmet/Kalei/Beach_Time_2
Hi DanceDanceRevolution,
*http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User:Dark_Blue_Helmet/sandy_fun_time_go
 
*http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Dark_Blue_Helmet_Kalei_Walter_Krenshaw
I saw you were in the Krinks Power Station for a few days, before it fell earlier today. I was wondering what your impression was of what was going on in and outside the plant. My summary would be that it was a whole jelling about pretty much nothing. Both sides in the conflict are pretty small. I however do think it is sad the PhiloKnights felt the need to clear out the place.
{{unsigned|Dark Blue Helmet}}
 
:Hi there! Great to see you’re still editing. Happy to help with the pages too. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 13:28, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
--[[User:Zyckde|zyckde]] 18:44, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks! It's slightly strange being back. Started 13 years ago on this simple game, and here I am once again. Lol. Thanks for the help! --{{User:Dark Blue Helmet/Sig}} 14:10, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
:Hmm. I left seemingly moments before an apparent PK wipe-out and visited soon after, unfortunately. However in the days I spent there, it didn't seem like a particularly stressful conflict. I only saw one PKing by the PK while I was there. Althought it seems like I missed an important event there, too :( I don't blame the Philosophe Knights for doing what they did, because of a dry spell plenty of players in UD has been itching to join a 'battle' or a 'war' for at leased two years now, it's just a shame they more or less ruined the main point of the battle. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 20:55, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
 
== Deletions  ==
 
I'm sure there's not, but is there any way to recover deleted wiki pages? I ask because the Team Survivor pages which were recently deleted are cited in a [http://zombies.dementiastudios.org/boards/index.php?topic=12.90 zerg case] and I rather suspect that that was why they wanted them deleted. --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 21:31, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
:We can "undelete" pages, although undeleting pages that are requested by the author is probably more trouble than it's worth, although I could just copy the contents into a user subpage and note that it's just an unaltered copy of Team Survivor for reference purposes if that's fine? By the way, the page hasn't been deleted yet if you need to salvage the data. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 22:11, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
::Looks like it's been done already. Good luck with the case, etc. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 22:12, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
:::I already suggested he copy the data in case the pages are re-deleted, which the probably will be. Though remember, there was never a deletion request, just a vague sort of crit 7 scenario. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 22:17, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
::::I still think the data will need to be copied over to another secure place sooner rather than later (I'll be happy to do it if you like) as it will most likely be deleted again. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 22:23, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
 
== Suggestions ==
 
Would you consider [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Suggestion:20100316_Flares_or_Flare_Guns%3F&diff=prev&oldid=1676638 this] to be a withdrawal of the suggestion?--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 23:31, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
:Hmm, I can't believe I didn't even notice that... I asked him. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 23:43, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
::Cool. I really need to get off this wiki for now. I'm getting ridiculously close to reverting Misanthropy's edit to the Mycock building, but I know how much Misconbitration it would cause, so I'm resisting. ):P --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 23:45, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
:::Wtf? I'm also half asleep and I thought ''I'd'' reverted that edit. Misanthropy beet meeee --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 23:51, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
 
==Softy==
Throwing Corn a soft warning like that. I was all ready to smack him around VB again. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 16:04, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
:It's such a shame that the one time I go through the quick softie-phase it affects someone who should have been crucified for their actions anyway; but hey, being the nice guy to the misguided newbies can never hurt, right? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 13:37, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
 
==Drunk==
So how do you think the next months going to play out, crat's wise? Boxys up for vote first, yes? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 13:22, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
:Actually, I am up for first vote, but Boxy has expressed (rather admirably) that he wants out too since he's been inactive. Although, as a big (and not secret) gay-for-boxy fan, I dislike he's going back down the ladder but it's the right thing to do so it makes me love him even more. Honestly? Probably Misanthropy and Aichon (as a surprise oooooh controversy tip) or you (if you go for it) tip too. But then again, if it ain't you three I'm tipping, who else is there in the comp? Krazy Monkey, SA, Karek and Nubis already proved that the "obligatory A/PM just before the A/BP election" works like a charm for sentimental popularity/respect which is why I'd shove Aichon on a high pedestal in the A/BP race, although that's assuming two spots are up. One spot for A/BP's election would leave me voting for Misanthropy, because he's been around here the most in the last month or so and that's always something I respect.
:To be honest, a week ago I wanted to elect Yonnua for Op, so I'd have the pleasure of cycling his bid (assuming it went jolly) and then we'd have another good user in the race for op. That'd make things more fun for everyone, of course. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 13:36, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
::You're talking to the man who regularly voted for swiers for no real reason. My money's on Iscariot. But fresh blood, man. No doubt Giles will bid in a month or so, even the scary prospect of Poodle is on the horizon. I could always email Grim? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 13:40, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
:::I know this sounds like a egotistical/douchbaggy thing to say, but the day Boxy ''and'' I step down from Crat, Iscariot will have his best chance at asyaop yet, he knows it too. Not that that's bad, of course. If he gets in op then he can, I'll most likely always be against it but i'm more than happy to voice myself as a regular user in relation to him when the time comes. Giles? Perhaps, as a guy who has too many issues with him in personal opinion (I generally disagree with almost everything he's done since his meatpuppeting saga about [[Civility]]) I wouldn't support him but that doens't mean he couldn't get the job, though I think there's beter out there. Poodle's a no=no for me. He's a simple guy which is good, but he makes simple mistakes whichs hows he isn't in the wiki for the buttons/responsibility yet. A heap of his work on the wiki is for his group which is good, but it means he isn't in the wiki for the buttons/responsibility yet. Atm, I'm loving Aichon and Yonnua, Haliman always did alright stuff when he went on his short "become sysop!" streaks but they are infrequent and almost invisible. By the way, is ZPWiki back up at all? Every time I uploaded a new batch of images I fear I crashed it again... --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 13:47, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, and I tried emailing grim to troll him about me getting crat (just to give him a brick wall to bash his head against about concernign the difrection of this wikis userbase) but he doesn't have a proper email address set up to it anymore, to avoid that exact thing, methinks =[ --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 13:52, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::ZPwiki was massively downgraded as a result of its move to a central forum/blog/wiki hub. I've stopped working on it until they fix it. 2 new areas about to be opened up though! --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 15:50, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::Oh man, I promised to come back for that, can't wait! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 18:38, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
::::If you ask me, if there's only one spot available, Ross has the 'crat position, hands down. SA is the only other 'op who would naturally pull in a lot of people, but he's been in-and-out and inactive enough recently that I doubt he'd get the support he has in the past. As you mentioned, I guess you could say I'm kinda the "darling" of the moment, and I suspect Iscariot nominated me with this exact timing for just that reason, so I might have a better shot right now than I normally would. That said, as with the sysop position, I'm not really looking for the 'crat position, so I'll be throwing my vote behind someone else, which will surely split some of the votes that would have otherwise gone to me. Plus, I'm new at this, and all it'll take is one newbie sysop mistake between now and the next BP for my image to be tarnished, which is not a problem in the long-run, but hurts my odds at a promotion in the short-term. Misanthropy is popular, and he's active and doing good work, so I could see him making it a good competition with Ross, and if there were two spots open, the second one certainly would be his, I think. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:27, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
 
So much talk about me. Let's clear some things up, many moons ago I stated that I would only accept nominations from three users and I'm sticking to that. Goo luck getting any of them to nominate me :P Aichon was nominated to boost the numbers of active sysops and to prevent an unsuitable candidate getting the nod just because it may be perceived that we were low on ops, we're stuck with RedHawkOne due to a situation like that. Next crat? That's easy, it'll be Ross. After that if Boxy steps down in the next month or so I can almost guarantee Mis getting the second slot, longer than a month and it breaks into a three horse race depending on activity levels. Would you all like my wisdom on anything else? -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 19:37, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
:This years formula one rule changes. Terrible? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 19:40, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
::Fucking ridiculous. The F1 blog I write for has many an article, even from before the season started, saying what a shit idea it was. Spanky was just trying to act like Daddy's idol one last time before he got slung out. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 19:43, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
:Just to remind everyone that I called the 'crat election :P Put your week's beer money on Vettel this weekend ;) -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 19:55, 16 April 2010 (BST)
 
== ZOMG RULE ABOOSE? ==
 
Is [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=PR_Weapon&curid=33390&diff=1681378&oldid=1612270 this] against one of the rules of the wiki? I think so, considering they're changing text from a Peer Reviewed suggestion, but I am not sure, and nothing on the page itself says anything about editing existing ideas. -- <small>[[User:Rorybob| <span style="color: #FF9933">Rahrah</span>]] [[User talk:Rorybob| <span style="color: #FF9933">wants you all to speak to him.</span>]]</small> 21:51, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
:Red Hawk One pwned that shit up. Really, that page should be scheduled protection... --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 02:20, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
 
== Location Categorization ==
 
While demerging locations, I really can't help but notice that the location categories are a real mess (good luck trying to find what you're looking for [[:Category:Junkyards|here]], for example). I'm thinking of possibly sub-categorizing these into suburb/district location pages, but at the same time worry it might defeat the point of demerging. Feedback?--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 02:18, 29 March 2010 (BST)
:Demerging creates individual pages, subcategories leave those pages intact but with easier divisions to follow. It's not defeating the point so much as following on pretty logically. It's a good idea, I think. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 02:23, 29 March 2010 (BST)
::Yeah, I figured that it would be nice to have an individual page for each location, but at the same time have an easily cataloged way of finding it. Now the problem is creating and sorting 2400 or so new specific categories...
::I wonder if Rooster can spare a few bots?--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 02:27, 29 March 2010 (BST)
:::How many people look for, say, junkyards, via categories though? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 05:21, 29 March 2010 (BST)
:::And also, don't worry about Rooster, he doesn't make categorising bots, he just gets me to do them =D so I'd definitely be your man. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 05:26, 29 March 2010 (BST)
 
== Image restoration ==
 
May I have SOTD-FaO 25px.jpg back, please. I took a vacation from the wiki at exactly the wrong time, apparently.--[[User:SamuRyjak|SamuRyjak]] 17:33, 30 March 2010 (BST)
:Consider it done. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 03:19, 31 March 2010 (BST)
::Thank you muchly.--[[User:SamuRyjak|SamuRyjak]] 17:25, 31 March 2010 (BST)
 
== Thanks for the heads up! ==
 
Yeah, sorry about that accessbar. It'll be fixed ASAP, I was mainly experimenting, as I'm new to wiki coding. Thanks again, though! - [[User:Knyle|Knyle]] 10:25, 31 March 2010 (BST)
 
== [[User:DanceDanceRevolution/story1]] ==
 
"Lust for blood undying" has six syllables. :P --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 18:12, 31 March 2010 (BST)
:I count dying as one... :*( --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 01:13, 1 April 2010 (BST)
::I think it's two isn't it? Could be wrong.... -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 13:31, 6 April 2010 (BST)
:::Perhaps it's a matter of pronunciation, in the land of Aus and the glorious province of newcastle, it's generally said as one syllable ;D --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 15:20, 6 April 2010 (BST)
 
== Re:Manhunt ==
 
If you want, we can make it so. I'll think up some ideas for it and get back to you. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 17:48, 1 April 2010 (BST)
:[[User:Rosslessness/Random Rambling/Sandbox34|Idea]] --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 17:58, 1 April 2010 (BST)
::Misanthropy: Sure! If you have any ideas, you have free reign over it. If it's named after you, you choose the rules, we say. Ross: I saw that when I was exploring users namespace pages last week, I like the idea of it, sounds good. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 01:43, 2 April 2010 (BST)
:::Exploring user namespaces? Must have taken you a while with mine. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:10, 2 April 2010 (BST)
::::Yours and Iscariots (no Iscariot I know you're reading this and I'm not stalking, just reading what's in userspaces of today's more prolific users) were a good read cause there was plenty of stuff. Nubis and Boxy were fun too. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 11:56, 2 April 2010 (BST)
:::::Frankly I think No More Heroes should be required reading. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 16:57, 2 April 2010 (BST)
::::::Pretty sure he had it deleted. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 21:15, 2 April 2010 (BST)
:::::::Pretty sure your stalking is [[User:Iscariot/No More Heroes|substandard]]. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 21:34, 2 April 2010 (BST)
::::::::It was created, then removed before someone tried crowbarring it into some weird new guides section, then returned after that danger subsided. Honestly, keep up. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 22:13, 2 April 2010 (BST)
::::::::I probably only went through WIP and PD I guess. I read it when it came out though. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 03:19, 3 April 2010 (BST)
 
== Hey! ==
 
Um, I wanted to apologize for constantly coming into fights with you. I don't like the way you work sometimes, nor do I trust your judgment at this time, but I do realize I shouldn't have brought this shit up time and time again on unrelated pages. Frankly, I don't want this hateful drama to go on, but it did mainly because of me and for that I stand mistaken. Bleargh --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 13:20, 6 April 2010 (BST)
:Really, it's alright. It was because I promised myself I'd always be around no matter how bad it got on UDWiki and that meant I had to go on even when the going got tough and I didn't want to be on. It made me inconsistent and subject to huge mood swings, all in all, I don't think any criticism of my work as an op went undeserved. And really, about my comment of your work on UDWiki, just WNing new users and not caring, seriously, it was just me looking for retaliation. Any contribution on the wiki helps. I like that we've said sorry for all of these attacks. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 15:07, 6 April 2010 (BST)
 
== Hey, could I ask for some help? ==
 
Everyone's favorite friendly neighborhood neonazi, [[user:cornholioo|cornholioo]] got pissed when I provided a plethora of facts proving his points on white supremacy (racist children say the danrdest things!) wrong, and when he told me off, I gave him some advice on how he could strengthen his points so that next time he presented them in an argument, he could appear more professional and less childish. He then proceeded to delete our conversation, which was a good half a page long.<br>
I can understand his embarassment, but that doesn't mean he should hide a good half hour's debating work so that no one can review our professional, inteligent conversation and provide commentary just because he's afraid people will agree with me.<br>
I know you happen to be a SysOp, and I'm wondering if you can help me out or give me advice on what to do.
--[[User:Sean Connolly|Sean Connolly]] 04:19, 10 April 2010 (BST)
Have a good one.
:I be lurking. I took a look, and from what I see, your conversation occured on Cornholioo's talk page - which is his own property here, giving him final say in whether he wants to delete comments from it or not. Deleting comments from your own talk pages is not an act of vandalism. However, should you wish to preserve the comments, you can fish them out of the page history and copy-paste them on your own talk page to keep a record of them. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 04:24, 10 April 2010 (BST)
:Misanthropy offered the same tips I was going to offer- unfortunately, Cornholioo has the right to delete anything he doesn't want, if it's on his talk page. Yes, it's immature, but it's his right, so naturally you have every right to copy and paste that exact conversation into your own talk page, with a notice saying it was taken from Cornholioo's page, and naturally there will be nothing ''he'' can do about it. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 04:48, 10 April 2010 (BST)
 
==wow==
 
thad seems to really dislike you...{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 13:12, 10 April 2010 (BST)
 
:[[User talk:DanceDanceRevolution#Hey!|It's only 2 sections up]], but to elaborate; there were some disagreements and things got personal rather then topical. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 14:00, 10 April 2010 (BST)
 
==Premature==
I know it's not really there yet or anything,... but I can see this becoming an epic failure,.... and things are starting off like they did on the last one.... So,... could we keep an eye on '''[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Second_Battle_of_Krinks&action=history this]'''? -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 15:12, 11 April 2010 (BST)
:We've been watching it vehemently since it arrived, check A/D. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 22:54, 11 April 2010 (BST)
 
== IRC ==
 
D: I never get to have fun talks on IRC... --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 23:16, 11 April 2010 (BST)
 
== Redesigning my user space... ==
 
Hi, I'm redoing my user space a bit... I'm trying to get some ideas for it... and like the layout of yours. I was wondering if you'd be okay with having me do something similar, or possably helping me with it? What do you think? I don't know exactly what I want to do yet... but I'm starting to put out feelers. -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 20:22, 12 April 2010 (BST)
:Yeah man, take anything you need. If you have any questions too, feel free to hit me up anytime =D --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 07:52, 13 April 2010 (BST)
 
== Crat ==
 
Roughly twelve hours left as crat. Sure you don't want to pull a coup?--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 11:47, 14 April 2010 (BST)
:It could NEVER have the same impact Grim's had, his was almost perfect in a way... --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 11:58, 14 April 2010 (BST)
::Grims Coup was amazing in almost every way. I'm just disappointed we never got to see the rules of his new Grimipedia. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 22:06, 14 April 2010 (BST)
 
== A matter of utmost and awesome importance ==
http://bit.ly/9wOpOb
:<3
:--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 22:01, 14 April 2010 (BST)
:I knew I was so famous I'd get killed there eventually ;D ;D --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 00:51, 15 April 2010 (BST)
 
 
==I refuse==
...to congratulate myself on wiki news. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 21:30, 15 April 2010 (BST)
:Fairynuff, but it was thad, not meee --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 01:33, 16 April 2010 (BST)
::I think he was fishing for you to do it, since he posted this here before Thad did it. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 01:34, 16 April 2010 (BST)
:::Ooooooooh, okay. I'd already gone off to the movies by this time. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 01:36, 16 April 2010 (BST)
 
== [[Special:Uncategorizedpages|Uncategorised Pages]] ==
 
Do you not love them any more? :,( --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:38, 16 April 2010 (BST)
:A fortnight or so ago, Rosslessness uncategorised [[:Category:Glossary]] articles which didn't fit the category or were shit/outdated articles. The problem with this is many of them belonged in there in the first place, so I updated them and stuck them back, or deleted some, turned some into redirects or merged some. But it was a big job and I never approached it with the intent on finishing it since it is more of less Ross' task, since it's part of his Wikiproject.. He made it the big mess and I stopped looking at them the few days before I demoted. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 01:16, 17 April 2010 (BST)
 
== but i no i did it b4 so fu if u dont beleve me ==
 
Try to get a profile link off him. I'll find him and I'll kill him and we can laugh at it. But I'll break down all the cades first. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 23:35, 18 April 2010 (BST)
 
L O L --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 23:36, 18 April 2010 (BST)
 
== Oookay... ==
 
I was looking at the [[Special:Wantedcategories]] page, and found [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Category:Suggestion&action=edit this]. Note the [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Suggestion:Make_suggestions_their_own_pages one article] in it- which, strangely, doesn't seem to exist. Any idea how this happened? {{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 23:46, 18 April 2010 (BST)
:I'm going to guess through the semi random firing of neurons within someones head. -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 23:53, 18 April 2010 (BST)
:Yeah, you came to a guy who asked the same question a year ago. I got asked the question [[User_talk:The_Rooster/Archive/2009#ghost_in_wiki_catacomes|here]] and boxy helpfully directed us to [[UDWiki:Administration/Speedy_Deletions/Archive/2008_10#Category|this]]. Rooster's original conclusion seems pretty credible too. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 00:36, 19 April 2010 (BST)
::Yeah, looking at it, Rooster's idea makes the most sense. It's clearly an issue with the space and redirecting now. Seems like there should be ''some'' way around it though... {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 00:42, 19 April 2010 (BST)
:::From what I understand, these sorts of "ghost" pages are caused by bugs in the wiki software. If we could somehow talk the big guy into updating it, then I'm sure the could be rid of these kinds of annoyances. {{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 00:46, 19 April 2010 (BST)
::::And then we can kill the ghost images? Pwetty pwease? {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 00:51, 19 April 2010 (BST)
::::That sure seems like the easiest way around this (the only other one would by accessing the server manually) but yeah, Kevan hasn't shown too much interest in updating it :( --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 06:55, 19 April 2010 (BST)
:::::While you're all here, could one of your strapping young lads archive my A/DM entry? =] --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 06:57, 19 April 2010 (BST)
::::::I'd have considered doing it, but then you had to go and ask for a strapping young lad to do it. Unfortunately, I am not one by any stretch of the imagination. As such, I have no recourse but to comment as such on your talk page, rather than doing the actual work that was requested. :P <small><small>I'll do it tomorrow if no one beats me to it</small></small> {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 09:16, 19 April 2010 (BST)
:::::::Also, Rooster's A/SD submission that was duly jacked off by Iscariot is waiting on A/D to be finally cycled --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 10:36, 19 April 2010 (BST)
 
== Nrm nrm nrm! AnranrRrrrrrn arh nrrh! ==
 
Translation: DanceDanceRevolution tastes nice! Sorry bud, but I couldn't pass up the chance to get a few noms in! <span style="font-family: Bradley Hand ITC, Segoe Script, Comic Sans MS, sans-serif;text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.4em">[[User:Chief Seagull|<span style="color: green;">Chief&nbsp;Seagull</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Chief Seagull|<small>squawk</small>]]</span>&nbsp;[http://tinyurl.com/yfrld3r <sup><small>don't mess with the Seagull!</small></sup>] 19:49, 20 April 2010 (BST)
:Haha! I love it! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 01:15, 21 April 2010 (BST)
 
== Settling it once and for all ==
 
[[User:Aichon/Other/Iscariot's Vandal Data]]. The name of the link says it all. I'm not asking for your input, necessarily (though I would welcome it), but I do want to make you aware of the page. I'm gonna try and contact all of the sysops and former sysops who are still active around here and have been involved with his data or might have an interest in it. Even if I miss a few, I figure enough people check all of your pages that most people who need to see the link will see it. ;) {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 01:29, 21 April 2010 (BST)
 
==IP's==
 
Yeah, he readded it between me removing the edit in question and telling him not to on the talk page. Thanks for redoing it. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 15:19, 23 April 2010 (BST)
 
== Uh?... ==
 
I'm sorry,... I think I missed something,... What the hell happened '''[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Data#User:Kevan here]'''? -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 18:16, 25 April 2010 (BST)
:What it says, someone created an account after Kevan and misused his name for vandalism. Though I'm not sure why it links to the real Kevan...--[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 18:40, 25 April 2010 (BST)
::That's what I'm getting at. The '''real''' Kevin's account is being linked to... not the vandals... -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 18:48, 25 April 2010 (BST)
:::It's to do with the wiki software. The "a" in that Kevan isn't really an "a", it's got a squiggly line over it, I think. It doesn't work with the software, so when you click the link, it takes you to [[User:Kevan]] instead.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:09, 25 April 2010 (BST)
::::<s>Shouldn't it link to a ghost page instead then? A la "La Revolution"? --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 22:23, 25 April 2010 (BST)</s>
:::::Scratch that, for an obvious reason. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 22:23, 25 April 2010 (BST)
::::::No it's actually an "a",... because of that, I don't think it's a glitch in the software.... -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 23:15, 25 April 2010 (BST)
:::::::No, it is a glitch in the software, it's come up before.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 23:20, 25 April 2010 (BST)
::::::::Okay,.... just out of curiosity, where has it come up before? I'd be interested in knowing more. -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 00:00, 26 April 2010 (BST)
:::::::::[[Special:Lonelypages|And now you know]], half the battle, blah blah blue lasers. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 00:07, 26 April 2010 (BST)
::::::::::I notice the page in question is not on there,.... and Yonnua said it's come up before,... I'd like to know where else it's been brought up. Yada, Yada,... red lasers,... how you like them apples? -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 00:18, 26 April 2010 (BST)
:::::::::::Not a clue. It may have been here, since when I originally saw this, I thought this was the original conversation. Check Kevan's talk and the talk for VD. I think Xoid said it wasn't actually to do with the character, but I have no idea.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 00:21, 26 April 2010 (BST)
:::::::::::The sole page there is the infamous example of what happens when wiki software fucks up the reading of nonstandard characters, and as such, ''is'' what has happened before. I like them apples diced. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 00:23, 26 April 2010 (BST)
::::::::::::Don't get me wrong Mis, I'm happy with whatever answer I ultimatly get. I'd just love to know which one is right,... and it seems as if you and Yonnua have different opinions on the matter. Regardless, can I slice them instead? -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 00:57, 26 April 2010 (BST)
:[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User:Kеvаn You mean this right here?] --{{User:DT/Signature}} 01:20, 26 April 2010 (BST)
::ya, same deal as [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User:Cyberb%CE%BFb240] in the same month. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 01:30, 26 April 2010 (BST)
It could be for the reason mentioned above but I'm not sure it is. Like Yonnua, I read about this beforehand on a talk page archive and I don't think it's the case of a wikighost, rather vandals manipulating wiki bugs in order to impersonate. I can't remember how this guy did it, it was long ago. When you make an account User:kevan, it automatically capitalises the first letter to User:Kevan, perhaps he did it that way via a bug, no idea. Same thing happened to A Helpful Little Gnome once, someone made a clone account and would vandalise pages with edit summaries that mimicked Protection summaries (since protections appear in the page history). It actually fooled some people for a bit and the vandalism didn't go changed :D Either way, The ops put it on the [[MediaWiki:Usernameblacklist|username black list]] so no one can make an account with kevan in it again >=) --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 01:28, 26 April 2010 (BST)
 
I was going to suggest that it was a result of unicode trickery (there were a number of those before Xoid and Kevan put the character whitelist into effect) but I'd forgotten about the capitalisation trick DDR mentioned. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 01:32, 26 April 2010 (BST)
 
Awesome,... time to fix the vandal data right? Or has someone done it already? -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 01:37, 26 April 2010 (BST)
:I would if I was an op. The truth is those sorts of permabanned accounts aren't even put on there these days so it could just be removed methinks. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 10:21, 26 April 2010 (BST)
::Thing about that is that vandal alts are listed below the accounts that they're alts of. This account is listed as an alt... shouldn't it be moved there? -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 12:18, 26 April 2010 (BST)
:::No. Because people don't know the alt it is of, obviously. Not only was it probably before Checkuser was on the wiki, it is obviously an alt because the achievement itself requires knowledge that a wiki user would need to have, not a newbie. That's the basis for it. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 02:30, 27 April 2010 (BST)
:::Besides, it doesn't matter. Aichon fixed it using the correct symbols. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 02:32, 27 April 2010 (BST)
::::I guess,... at least it's been sorted out now.... -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 04:02, 27 April 2010 (BST)
 
::::DT did all the hard work of finding it and Mis took the initiative to link it up. I just copy-pasted a few things to make it work better. :P {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 07:21, 27 April 2010 (BST)
 
==damn you==
 
[[UDWiki:Administration/De-Escalations#User:DanceDanceRevolution_.282.29|hypocritical cuntrash]]. In other news when are you coming down to raper lane? {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 07:34, 26 April 2010 (BST)
:Gets popcorn: this should be interesting--{{User:Imthatguy/sig}} 08:05, 26 April 2010 (BST)
:whenevr u do babykakes --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 10:21, 26 April 2010 (BST)
 
 
== Talk page ==
 
Please don't post on my talk page. Your messages are unwelcome. Next time I make a vandal banning case. --[[User:Cornholioo|Cornholioo]] 7:46, 7 May 2010 (BST)
 
== Kevans Mistake ==
 
Ruin. Huge Mistake. Why? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 13:31, 7 May 2010 (BST)
:Not ruin as much, it was a step in a good direction, however, cade blocking was the final nail in the coffin for actual battles, and lets face it, we'll always remember pre-2007 for the glory and the battles. Nothing since then has really happened, mostly because, imo, the game has become much more individualised and focussed on the smaller conflicts and grinds inside the game: it isn't about defending the survivor stronghold mall. It wasn't just cade blocking that did this, FAK-nerfing also did a bit. But in the end the main thing I'll always remember about UD is that within hours of the cade blocking being introduced, the 3 week long [[Bashing Back: The Battle for Pitneybank|battle of pitneybank]] was lost and the game was ''never'' the same again. Dark buildings was great, but in a holistic way it only strengthened an "alternative" side of the game, PKing, which would only ever be spurred on en masse by two things: rules that sanction/buff PKing, and general boredom with the status quo of the game (which is what turned me to PKing). Kevan did the first bit deliberately with dark buildings, and is inadvertently encouraging the second motive by not forcing big changes in UD.
:The facts are: the numbers are dwindling. No iconic battles or conflicts are happening besides the incredibly mediocre [[Battle of Krinks]], which, since it was the only interesting roleplaying battle established via wiki in over two years, everyone, more famously [[Philosophe Knights|PK]] dropped any moral about decent combat initiative and just barged into the battle to join in the fun as much as possible. Kevan hasn't made a proper change to the game since, I don't know, cade blocking (imo?) and it's needed a few big changes since... It needs updates, it needs more ''fun'' (not just totally fair) balance for both sides but mainly zombies. Back on track (slightly drunk, :|), when I say he changed the game (and imo I ''mean'' for the worse) was when he added things like cade-blocking, where a) it became impossible for a band of unco-ordinated survivors to take on a horde the same size as them (I mean battle-wise), so they all spread out. Since any large zombie horde could annihilate anything within 48 hours, they were forced to spread out into smalled sub-groups too, and in turn the entire game became about survival tactics rather than "one for all" sticking into a square/mall for the best, and knowing there was a ''good'' chance that the sleiged mall would still be up (and you still alive) by the time you logged in the same time next day. I think the changes have eliminated mid-way points between a battle. It used to be "break in! cade! kill! dump! and repeat!" until the zombies eventually got in and killed, or moved on. Now it's either Survivors are definitely at a win from the start because of numbers, or Zombies definitely win within a 30 minute strike, conflict over. Nothing that could ever amount to a battle, because it's less about tactics and more about sheer numbers.
:Personally, the changes are good, given the right game balance, and I can't remember having any more fun than the break-neck survival we had to engage in when the [[March of the Dead]] thing happened but that was anomaly in an otherwise unfair and boring game because the numbers just aren't right. It's the same as Face of Mankind. Once there is no balance in the game and the (non-meta gaming) survivors are perpetually in control of a majority of the map, the game gets boring for the regular guy. Going to a hot-zone as an individual ends up in certain fail, everywhere ''other'' than that is boring, and the only fun you have is PKing random [[WWSIS|people]] who you know will always [[NSU|retaliate]] no matter what. A majority of zombie groups can't cut it because even a group of 30 can't affect a well-established suburb in the slightest so it's just a pain in the dick. Please not that I've been drinking so about all of this won't make sense. sorry.
:long story short this time I promise: no meta, no battles= bad. we haven't had a battle since cade blocking which was established ''by'' Kevan when he was a zombie in the 3 week long battle Battle of Pitneybank. That's the correlation which sticks with me. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 14:04, 7 May 2010 (BST)
::Wow. Power drunk! I agree entirely about the march of the dead. Running an independent character, dying 3 days out of every 4, following even the rumour of a powered NT, sharing intel from scores of groups like a massive game of chinese whispers was the zombpocalypse. Even their idiot playing style was perfectly in genre. As for zombie groups, some of us can effect suburbs, but i feel the current balance is what draws people to the perma death maps.  There are important results to your actions. But hey, Kevan stated last week he was doing a major update, and they're normally on saturdays, and with the entire country uncontrolled, what else is he going to do? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 16:14, 7 May 2010 (BST)
:::Never know WHAT that crazy man will come up with. Although I still think catfishing is his best game. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 16:24, 7 May 2010 (BST)
::As a quick aside, the Knights did have a reason for getting involved in the Battle of Krinks (recall that it wasn't actually a big drama magnet ''until'' we got involved): they were all ignorant. We hadn't seen a larger display of ignorance in a long time, so we responded in force to educate them all. It was only later that it became a well-known event. Prior to our involvement, it was just a small scale scuffle between dumb and dumber. {{User:Aichon/Psig}}
::I agree mostly with you, cade-blocking pretty much killed siege play altogether, which is a shame, because those sieges <s>are</s> were definitively the highlights of urbandead. Sadly, nowadays most real conflicts revolve around PK battle's rather than actual zombie ones. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 21:30, 7 May 2010 (BST)
:::I had proposed a [[User:Maverick_Farrant/Sandbox_5#Survivor:Zombie_Interference_Negation|slight fix]] to cade blocking in Developing Suggestions that met with mild support. I'd take it to voting, but I want more input on the idea. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 22:55, 7 May 2010 (BST)
::::The suggestions system is ineffectual as an actual review system because I still reckon Kevan hasn't read it for a long time. He's been doing his own thaying now for so long that it just makes me think he's ditched the idea of suggestions and just does what he thinks is right for the game. Which is fine, but the game just not as epic as it used to be. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 03:18, 8 May 2010 (BST)
:::::::I dont feel the suggestion system is ineffectual, just the voting system. Kevans implmented loads of suggestions that didnt make peer review. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:46, 9 May 2010 (BST)
::::::You make some good points.  It is still possible to have sieges with feral zombies and medium sized survivors groups, which probably reflects accurately on the genre.  The organized hordes in UD are a type of telepathic, highly coordinated zombie that is particular to this game, and frankly ''should'' be able to smash through almost any survivor resistance.  The game needs more feral zeds, spread throughout the map, to provide a more balanced challenge.  Without this I too fear the game will degenerate into a survivor PKing game with a little zombie flavor.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 12:17, 8 May 2010 (BST)
:::::::Or, [[Monroeville]] as it was more commonly known.--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:46, 9 May 2010 (BST)
 
== Hm ==
This place is harder to let go then you perhaps initially thought, no? ;) --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 20:37, 9 May 2010 (BST)
:Definitely, except now I have no one to impress I'm afraid I've falling into the evil depths of drama and not done a fair share in wiki maintenance, though I doubt anyone minds. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 01:04, 10 May 2010 (BST)
::I'm going to have to put you up for promotion, aren't I? {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 01:07, 10 May 2010 (BST)
:::arghhh noooo, I still need a couple of months :( :( :( --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 01:12, 10 May 2010 (BST)
 
U drunk? =0 Get off your pc silly, before you do something you'll later regret ;'( --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 17:53, 15 May 2010 (BST)
 
==NPOV==
So apparently I do not know what non-point of view is. Can you please define to me what NPOV is exactly? I figured that a statement of fact is indeed NPOV, regardless of the subject matter. If I made a group whose sole goal was to kill babies, and I put "Wants to kill your babies" as a description for the group on the wiki, would that get banned as non-neutral garbage? Now, if I said "Wants to kill your babies because you're all douchebags," that I can see being POV and being subsequently banned. But a simple statement of fact, such as "They are waiting to add you to their list" isn't insulting or derogatory - it's simply what a group is waiting to do! Humor and wittiness are what makes this game fun, as the game itself is actually quite boring. All I'm really asking, I guess, is for you to tell me what exactly is wrong with stating a fact in a NPOV section, specifically [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Yagoton&diff=1711960&oldid=1711924 here]. Now I can see Dalton Riggs's statement "to hell with your list" being very biased and full of POV, but I think that the other two statements, mine and Cobra's, have nothing wrong with them. Simply because Eagle of Fire gets his panties in a wad when I tell him I'm going to kill him in-game doesn't mean that he should be given free reign to delete our posts, which incidentally have been there for months, and in the case of Cobra, years. Please use your all-knowing-unbiased-administrative-wisdom in this situation, as (with all wiki-edit discrepancies) I find it fuelled by absurdity. --[[User:Alevins|alevins]] 05:44, 21 May 2010 (BST)
:Wah! More panties bunching up <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 06:41 21 May 2010 (BST)</span></small>
 
:Honestly, I'd delete the whole section. NPOV isn't just about making factual statements, but about being fair with which facts are shared, where the emphasis is placed relative to what other topics are covered, and a whole lot of other matters. There are already group listings on every single suburb page, so anything more than that effectively amounts to group advertisements, and we have a [[Recruitment|page for that already]]. Plus, while I haven't checked yet, I'm willing to bet that a lot of the groups listed there aren't even active any longer, since they weren't cleaned up along with the Great Suburb Group Massacre. Long story short, practically everything about that section is POV. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 06:51, 21 May 2010 (BST)
::Those sections are supposed to be tongue in cheek "tourist info" type sections, where people can be a bit creative about what makes their suburb "special". Unfortunately some of the more "special" members of the community think that it's a good place to advertise their super cool groups, and how badass they are.<br />If you're not putting things that tourists may be interested in, then keep out of that section <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 06:56 21 May 2010 (BST)</span></small>
:I'm not sure I can bring myself to address every point you posted here, since I'm tired at the moment, and two administrators have already seemingly backed up my position. However, I'll clear some things up.
:Firstly, I never said or even insinuated that you didn't know what POV or NPOV meant. Similarly, I won't be attempting to explain it for you, not just because of that but also because I don't have a blind, black and white opinion of POV, and if I did, it would be as what the Wiki states, but since it [[UDWiki:NPOV|doesn't]], I treat everything on a case-by-case basis.
:You seem to be arguing with the notion that it's okay to have your entries there because there are similar posts like that on Yagoton and other suburb posts. You paraphrased that in your edit summary which you linked above, and as I explained in mine, that's why your edit was reverted. You say there's "nothing wrong" with Cobra and CT's entries, but you also assert that there's similar content out there and ''that's'' why the posts shouldn't be removed. I personally disagree, as, I explained, IMO the "war against POV" isn't solved by just keeping everything equal POV. It's by removing everything that is POV or changing it so it is NPOV. Since neither of us (or 99% of the wiki for that matter) involved in this metaphorical war, removing/changing everything isn't a goal but it sure is a long-term goal of the wiki to remove outdated and POV stuff on suburb pages, which is why I don't agree with your reasoning behind your edits. The length they've been up there is also irrelevant.  
:If you want a short answer from me over what ''should'' specifically be on the tourist section- it essentially mirrors Boxy's sentiment- that section is for roleplaying tourist attractions and I don't think 'get killed by X' is anything of the sort. Similarly, without sounding patronising, honestly, I think your groups are a bit better than squabbling over such a trivial recruitment/attention device. There are more than enough areas in a suburb page to cram subtle group references. I'd just suggest making this one a little more fitting. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 10:34, 21 May 2010 (BST)
::My problem wasn't with the removal of out posts, it was with the removal of our posts and the let continue of the Abandoned and Human Unity Revolution's posts - what seemed like anti-PK bias to me, anyways. Thanks to Boxy for enforcing the "war against POV" blindly without bias. --[[User:Alevins|alevins]] 16:16, 21 May 2010 (BST)
:::You're going to have to re-iterate what you mean by "posts", because to me posts means news reports and I didn't remove any of those. I simply reverted your edit because it was wrong in the pov context, if you see POV happening feel free to take it off. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 03:16, 22 May 2010 (BST)
 
== >:D ==
 
Whoops, and you're dead. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 14:59, 22 May 2010 (BST)
:lol nooooooooooooooooooo --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 15:01, 22 May 2010 (BST)
:: lol, if I had the AP, I would revive you too ;D! --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 15:05, 22 May 2010 (BST)
 
== Ban ==
Since you're part of the reason I'm leaving, and looking for a way to ensure that I never come back, would you care to '''[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2010_05#User:Poodle_of_doom do the honors]'''? -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 06:16, 23 May 2010 (BST)
:It's a bit hard, given that DDR isn't a sysop <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 06:27 23 May 2010 (BST)</span></small>
:You always took my criticisms of you so well that it led me to respect you. Now your personal issues are apparently somehow a result of me disagreeing with you in professional matters, I do not. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 06:31, 23 May 2010 (BST)

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How depressing it is to see the archives clumped together more and more until there's three years in a single archive. A ZOMBIE ANT 01:20, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

I know, right? Seems faintly ridiculous to be acknowledging that something with “dead” in the name is dying, but here we are… ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 07:57, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
Indeed. Linkthewindow  Talk  10:38, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

A/PM

Come on. You know you miss it. Aichon 05:11, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

I do... A ZOMBIE ANT 05:16, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Re: nation library edit:

Good Morning, Thank you for the information and understanding. It's been years since I used this site. I have made the accurate correction this time. Nation is up. Looking at it right now. Also, the Danger Report notification at the top of the edit box does specify it is to be NPOV, I was trying to help that person, but went about it wrong. I will do better. I'm sure the usual problem makers will try to tie me to their enemy, but the fact is I was just trying to keep things as accurate as possible. Time for some people to grow up and learn this is not their game, nor their site, and we're all just guests of the creator. Take care. How can I be a sockpuppet if Im a real person, and don't like a hand up my butt?

Dont be made just because Im making more sense than you. Next time just follow my lead and we can all get there together correctly and accurately!

Neutral objector 04:30, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

A/V report

Even if I had actually been the one to make the edit in question, A/V policy is to contact the user and try to work it out with them before aggressively filing a report to get them punished, to promote good faith and newbie-friendliness in the community. I note that my talk page is still nonexistent. If you had left me a message instead of rushing to A/V, perhaps we could have worked out some of the smaller details like "I have never edited the page you accused me of vandalizing." --Ɛňvϊoцᵴ (talk) 16:21, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

I had a brain fart making a report about the wrong account, apologies there. I copied the most recent A/VB report over while on the run and somehow didn't remember to change it to the actual accused. A ZOMBIE ANT 22:03, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

gdpr

was there any discussion about it on the wiki ? --hagnat 14:45, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Not that I'm aware of. It's on Kevan, so our lack of discussion here on the wiki is not really surprising. Frankly, given that he cut off payments from UK customers to comply with updated business regulations a few years back, I was half expecting that the wiki and game might suddenly shut down so that he wouldn't have to worry about any potential GDPR compliance issues, but that hasn't happened (yet). Aichon 17:06, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
No. I'm not really the person to discuss the GDPR thing. I honestly don't really know much about it at all, so if anyone else wants to chime in with thoughts, please do. A ZOMBIE ANT 03:47, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Archive of your suggestion

I was going to back it up for you, then noticed you already did. The idea is not bad, too bad kevan has not decided to do this. He seems to be active still on his main site. --Emot-siren.gif LABIA on the INTERNET Emot-siren.gif Dunell Hills Corpseman The Malton Globetrotters#24 - You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG 06:06, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, I figured Kevan would never ever see it, but it’s fun to suggest things and I enjoy keeping them archived somewhere to remember them. A ZOMBIE ANT 12:37, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Great job cleaning out the suggestions section by the way. A ZOMBIE ANT 12:40, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

that's not

an interwiki link augh it's just a wikilink

this is an interwiki link

yes it bothered me enough to come post on your page about it

yes I know that's ridiculous

anyway how have you been?

ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 11:11, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Hey, things are good, thank you. I hope you are too.
Would you be able to let me know where I made the mistake? I remember trying a couple of Wikipedia links in the last week, so I’m not sure where I got it wrong. Thanks. A ZOMBIE ANT 12:30, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Pardus and associated pages

Seems that the user Pyropardus is taking over user Pardus and other associated pages. Afaik, this should not be done. http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Special:Contributions/Pyropardus --Emot-siren.gif LABIA on the INTERNET Emot-siren.gif Dunell Hills Corpseman The Malton Globetrotters#24 - You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG 22:40, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

I'm interested to hear what you think- I saw those and interpreted it as the same user coming back under a new account (perhaps they forgot their old password) and just reclaiming their old projects, which isn't uncommon. THE CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER 22:53, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
Particularly because all they've done on that group page is do a couple of small spelling fixes, etc. THE CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER 22:54, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
Ok, and that is fine reasoning; however, Pyropardus blanked user Pardus's page and erased quite a bit of data off of two other pages. Now compare that to user Igotmadenoughtomakeanewaccount, who was warned for making edits to user Shaqfu's page. There was some back and forth so it was apparent that Shaqfu didn't want the edit to his page. The edits were the addition of two templates, one of which called user A Helpful Little Gnome a "five alarm fuckwit". That appeared to draw user A Helpful Little Gnome into creating a V/B case against user Igotmadenoughtomakeanewaccount.
What I really don't like is the precedent this could set. Does this mean that anyone can make a new account like say user NewMartyBanks, and then proceed to edit user MartyBanks profile and erase large portions of the group he is associated with?--Emot-siren.gif LABIA on the INTERNET Emot-siren.gif Dunell Hills Corpseman The Malton Globetrotters#24 - You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG 02:43, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
I convinced myself to make the V/B case.--Emot-siren.gif LABIA on the INTERNET Emot-siren.gif Dunell Hills Corpseman The Malton Globetrotters#24 - You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG 02:59, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
Sure. THE CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER 05:52, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
So just to put my 2c in now the case is done is I'm pleased you bought the case forward because it can be better to be safe than sorry, and I'm cool with that, although I consider the precedent you seem wary of to simply be "assuming good faith", which is the vibe I got from the whole situation (luckily I was right, though I could have easily been wrong and looked like a tit). Nothing wrong with escalating an issue because no one else has brought anything up because of assumptions. I think you did the right thing. THE CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER 16:37, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, I was wary for that above reason, plus I think pardus was one of the free speech for all people we were arguing with on discord. I wanted to make the issue known before when I first noticed it, but I wanted to wait to see of there were anymore edits. It did get some humorous stuff going when bob and pyropadus started edit warring. --Emot-siren.gif LABIA on the INTERNET Emot-siren.gif Dunell Hills Corpseman The Malton Globetrotters#24 - You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG 16:53, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
Yeah. That was weird and hilarious. I hadn't made the potential connection with the account and the latest Discord issues. That would have made it definitely checking up. THE CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER 16:56, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Warning (Totes Official)

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Please stop telling people they should feel honored to be warned by me. It's weird. Continuing to do so may result in additional requests of this variety. Aichon 08:22, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

What an honour! I was just about to joke about how now I can use this 'warning' to fulfil another bucket list item by sending you to misconduct... But I just checked through your archive and it turns out I already did! I even got you banned! DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 08:37, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
But for real, please don’t leave Aichon... 😢 DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 21:15, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
I'll still generally be available if someone pings me, but I don't plan to check in on my own otherwise. There's enough other stuff going on to keep me busy in life, and those things are the areas I'd like to be putting more of my attention going forward, so it's time to clear out the old time sinks that I've allowed to accumulate. Aichon 23:54, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
Good call. We all have to do it eventually. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 02:10, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
Very apropos that one of the biggest time-sinks in my life, tumblr, seems to be collapsing as we speak. More time for me to dedicate to danger updates! Bob Moncrief EBDW! 02:44, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
Chin up Bob, if it’s nude photos you’re gonna be missing from Tumblr then let me tell you a bit about a thing we call the internet! DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 10:41, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Note of inactivity

I’m in PNG for the upcoming week. I don’t expect to have decent access to internet. I return home on Saturday. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 11:09, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

At least they didn't send you to crummy JPG or inefficient BMP. -- Spiderzed 21:34, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
The way the internet is here I think a BMP would put me out for several hours. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 04:17, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
*shakes head* Shoulda gone to SVG, lbr. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 04:31, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
Oh wow. Surprised I missed this note earlier. Have fun there. Don't let your time get compressed or your luggage get returned to you in a lossy state. Aichon 22:17, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
Fingers crossed... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 04:17, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

dammit

our sigs are busted on Chrome for Android Sad ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 03:55, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Weak. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 03:57, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletions

Hi, just in case it doesn't get noticed now traffic on the wiki is so low, could you take care of my request? Wish you the best! --Thadeous Oakley Talk 19:31, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

All good. Thanks. All the best to you and farewell mate. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 01:55, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Note of inactivity (2)

From the 17th of March to the 7th of April I will be travelling to NYC, Toronto and London for work and may have poor access to UDWiki. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 02:04, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Nice! ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 09:43, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Signature and template questions

I appreciate your help, DDR. Since you are knowledgeable about signatures, perhaps you could point me to a link that shows/explains how to take a descriptive two-line string of code that delineates a signature ("font-family", etc.) and turns it into the compact form such as your [[User:DDR|DDR]]. I want to be able to turn the strings of descriptors in mine to the compact version of Lizzie Donner. I made up a signature for each alt and put them on the bottom of my homepage, User: Catherine Cushing. I feel like the code isn't written up properly somehow. Maybe that's because I don't understand any of it (just filched it from other peoples' pages.)

Since I wrote that I did find a place that I think explains how to make a nice signature properly. It is: https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_intro.asp

Have some fun in London. I haven't been there in 18 months (I'm in Oregon, above the Pacific in the USA.) It was August and the weather in Whitby was perfection. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Catherine Cushing (talkcontribs) at an unknown time.I forgot; sorry.Catherine Cushing (talk)But the signature I tried to write doesn't have the time and date in it!!!--Catherine Cushing (talk) 10:38, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Hey Catherine. Thanks for the well wishes for London. I'm excited to see it.
So I think there are two solutions to your questions. Please correct me if you have more questions or if I didn't quite understand your queries (it's been a while since I've really troubleshot signatures).
The first answer to your question is possibly best answered here, with some examples of signature styles etc. that will still help you out with coding and what codes might make your signatures look like what.
As for your second question, I have a complex signature that appears in code just as {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}}when I type my "~~~~". The way you do that is to go to preferences (top right of this whole page) and go to signature and you add {{SUBST:Nosubst|User:YOUR SIG HERE}}. So for example, mine says right now, {{SUBST:Nosubst|User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}}. You are able to go to the real page of User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5 and see the code for yourself, but thanks to this nifty trick, all that code doesn't end up on a page every time I type the signature, the wiki just uses that code as a template.
Does that help you at all? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 09:44, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
That is extremely helpful and very kind of you, DDR, thank you. (I didn't realize until just now that the signatures I composed have no date and time stamping function included. Ugh.) --Catherine Cushing (talk) 10:38, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
You can manually add the timestamp! Just type in ~~~~~ after you put in the template to show the sig you want. Also, if you create a separate page for each signature (just like DDR has) then those pages can be used as the template coding then adding in the five tildes afterwards. You might want to ask Bob what he does, as he switches between signatures depending on what he is doing on the wiki. He has his main one, but then for danger status updates, he often uses his Danger Updater signature. So he might be able to give you another point of view on how to do things with your alt's signatures :) stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 11:16, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
For my side signatures, I have a subpage for them (just like a regular signature), e.g. at User:Bob Moncrief/DUSig. Then, I type {{User:Bob Moncrief/DUSig}} ~~~~~, which transcludes the side signature and then adds just the timestamp (with five tildes, as opposed to four tildes, which would also include my regular signature). Bob Moncrief EBDW! 11:58, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks all for pitching in to answer that third query that I skimmed past... Basically as Bob and Stelar have said above in regards to getting your 'alternate' signatures to appear as though you are speaking as one of your alts. (Might as well do one for this here message, by manually typing an old sig and then adding the 5 tildes.) -- DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION -- 04:10, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
This is fantastically generous of you all, and I actually understand it!!! (I believe it has also illuminated the idea of posting a template one has made on a file page, so that it actually works out in the UD Wiki world.) I can't tell you how incredibly grateful I am for your help. P.S. I wasn't sure I was allowed to insert a live link for something outside the UD Wiki, so I put spaces into the address for that w3 school tutorial thingee I found. Catherine Cushing (talk) 08:58, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
You're welcome! Never be afraid to ask a question, there will always be someone around that can answer it! The wiki can be a bit confusing until you get the hang of it. stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 10:44, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Sorry to see you go!

Just received your message: "Editor's summary: Term as crat has finished". I wanted to thank you for all your help and kind advice. Be well. Catherine Cushing (talk) 23:27, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Hey Catherine, thanks for your well wishes, but no need to worry- I’m still an administrator, nothing has really changed in practical terms. I’ve just handed the role of beaurecrat (a slightly higher position with an added admin responsibility) to Bob Moncrief. It’s ok and I’ll still be around 👍 DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 01:42, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
Well, that's good news! I'm glad you both got a well-deserved promotion and that you will still be around. (Promise not to pester you for advice, though. ;) ) Catherine Cushing (talk) 02:05, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
Feel free to ask us for any advice Catherine! It's what we are here for. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 00:24, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
When I make pancakes the first one always sticks and gets fucked up. Any advice for me? -- SomethingSomething.gif 20:36, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Hmm. That's a tough one. I'd recommend doing an Open Discussion for a meandering session to gain consensus on the issue, vote on the best way through Policy Discussion and if you continue to have issues bring the suggesters to Arbitration so we can bring out justice to the troublemakers. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 22:59, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing that posting, DDR.

I'm not sure when I'm supposed to sign things I write (except messages like this one, obviously.) The revised parks list just seemed to be important enough to be able to back up with my work list, to document, in other words. Catherine Cushing (talk) 04:58, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

For pages like that, I'd just make the edit, and put the reasoning in the edit summary. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 12:01, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
That should have occurred to me, Bob. I'll do that if any similar situation comes up. Thanks. Catherine Cushing (talk) 10:10, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
No problem. Out of curiosity, where’d you get the newer count? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 12:05, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Note of Inactivity (3)

From the 7th of September to the 31st of October, I will be traveling through Europe and my access to the wiki will be sporadic. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 03:27, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

And now in Mexico until mid November. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 04:13, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
ur a butt, u butt They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 23:09, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
👍 DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 11:06, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Jisor

Was I not supposed to edit his talk page? --Emot-siren.gif LABIA on the INTERNET Emot-siren.gif Dunell Hills Corpseman The Malton Globetrotters#24 - You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG 03:13, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

That’s 100% my fault. I must have accidentally clicked revert. Have undone the revert, apologies. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 03:34, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
It is ok, I actually cannot even see the comment I made but I think that was his intention. --Emot-siren.gif LABIA on the INTERNET Emot-siren.gif Dunell Hills Corpseman The Malton Globetrotters#24 - You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG 22:42, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

A/RE

So... demote everyone? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 15:40, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

I don’t know french, but I think it’s safe to say everyone’s passed. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 14:40, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Inactivity

I am consistently semi active. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:06, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

I prefer to describe myself as inconsistently inactive. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 04:57, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Deleting Pages

Well hello again! I remember your name from back in the day, and I recently came back myself. Just wanted to say hi. Anyway... There's a couple pages that I had created, that I won't use/have no use for anymore. I was looking for some help on deleting them. These are the pages in question. Thanks!

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dark Blue Helmet (talkcontribs) at an unknown time.

Hi there! Great to see you’re still editing. Happy to help with the pages too. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 13:28, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! It's slightly strange being back. Started 13 years ago on this simple game, and here I am once again. Lol. Thanks for the help! --DBHT 14:10, 2 September 2021 (UTC)