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| | == talk archive activity :( == |
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| == Quit it please ==
| | How depressing it is to see the archives clumped together more and more until there's three years in a single archive. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 01:20, 6 April 2018 (UTC) |
| | :I know, right? Seems faintly ridiculous to be acknowledging that something with “dead” in the name is dying, but here we are… {{User:Revenant/Sig}} {{Goonsig|Revenant}} 07:57, 21 April 2018 (UTC) |
| | ::Indeed. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 10:38, 25 May 2020 (UTC) |
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| look i know its hard to belive i get it but dont drag it on survivor 2.0 is my roomate since he got kicked out by his girlfriend a year ago you dont have to belive me but please dont talk about it any more please its getting iritating to have somebody saying stuff thats not true thank you--[[User:Zombieman 11|Zombieman 11]] 23:02, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :Did she kick him out because he didn't spell his love letters right? {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 00:22, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :You need to realise I have nothing against you and your 'buddy'Survivor 2.0. As long as you two don't vandalise I don't care whether he is you, your friend or your dog. But putting stupid communication messages in the wrong place creates work for ''me'' to fix up, because you're too dense to put it in the right place. If you wanted to actually communicate your message to your mate I'd suggest getting an email address or something, MSN, whatever. Putting personal messages here to a mate is public and is so stupid and flawed that saying you and him are the same person and you're just trying to fool us is actually doing your intelligence justice. Long story short, stop fucking about with my wiki and putting things in places that they shouldn't. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 00:56, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
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| no because he was actually dating 2 peaple at once aka he is an idiot--[[User:Zombieman 11|Zombieman 11]] 00:52, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :Did he manage that by pretending to be two people at once? {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 00:53, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ::I assume its the classic, 2 dates at the same time approach, occurring in neighbouring buildings, running between the two. No doubt with hilarious consequences. Or its bollocks. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 10:35, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :::I like that his "friend" had a mary sue-esque excuse for being kicked out. Not because he's a lowlife or because he couldn't please his girlfriend, it's because he was scoring with two chicks at once. Definitely not a common trait with multiple-personality victims. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 11:32, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ==Web colours==
| | Come on. You know you miss it. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 05:11, 30 April 2018 (UTC) |
| | :I do... {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 05:16, 30 April 2018 (UTC) |
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| Right. Yon. Hmm. Frankly it the most contentious one we've had in a long while. There's no doubting his sysopness, with his constant gnoming, and maintenance are of huge benefit. But it all boils down to the recent checkuser incident, and his recent points of view. (The one I'm most struck by was the questioning of my own checkuser use with Zombieman). Looking at his sysopness as a whole over time, Yon's done some good work, and in all honesty his reevaluation shows a lot of support. With this in mind, I'm leaning towards successfully re-evaluating him, but with a stern reminder about the privacy issue. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 15:39, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
| | ==Re: nation library edit:== |
| :Excellent Summation. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:18, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
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| == Combo Breaker ==
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| | Thank you for the information and understanding. It's been years since I used this site. |
| | I have made the accurate correction this time. Nation is up. Looking at it right now. |
| | Also, the Danger Report notification at the top of the edit box does specify it is to be NPOV, |
| | I was trying to help that person, but went about it wrong. I will do better. |
| | I'm sure the usual problem makers will try to tie me to their enemy, but the fact is I was just trying to keep things as accurate as possible. Time for some people to grow up and learn this is not their game, nor their site, and we're all just guests of the creator. |
| | Take care. {{User:Neutral objector}} 04:30, 12 May 2018 (UTC) |
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| I've got a hypothetical question.
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| If in the recent Yon re-evaluation we had disagreed (I.e. One Yes, one No). What would be the outcome. The Policy seems to state "Once the Crats have made a decision." But is it like promotions, where if one of us says no, its a no, or do we both need to agree to a demotion? Or both need to agree for a repromotion? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 17:40, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
| | Even if I had actually been the one to make the edit in question, A/V policy is to contact the user and try to work it out with them <b>before</b> aggressively filing a report to get them punished, to promote good faith and newbie-friendliness in the community. I note that my talk page is still nonexistent. If you had left me a message instead of rushing to A/V, perhaps we could have worked out some of the smaller details like "I have never edited the page you accused me of vandalizing." --[[User:Envious|Ɛňvϊoцᵴ]] ([[User talk:Envious|talk]]) 16:21, 14 May 2018 (UTC) |
| :I always assumed the "If one crat vetoes, it's a no" was because if there's a tied result, we keep things the same on the wiki. If so, it would mean they were re-evaluated.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 18:10, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
| | :I had a brain fart making a report about the wrong account, apologies there. I copied the most recent A/VB report over while on the run and somehow didn't remember to change it to the actual accused. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 22:03, 14 May 2018 (UTC) |
| :Something similar came up during [[UDWiki:Administration/Promotions/J3D_(2)|'''J3D's promotion.''']] I believe Boxy phrased it as a all or nothing thing, where if one 'crat is against the promotion, it is not meant to be. Basically, you both have veto power if you believe Boxy's precedent. -[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 18:13, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ::Of course, thats promotions, not re-evaluation. You're taking something away, not giving it. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 18:22, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :::Right. I should have read more carefully. I'll go back to my propaganda world then. -[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 18:34, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ::A manhunt deathmatch where the victor gets their way and the loser is demoted would be a better way to settle ties IMO. -[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 18:16, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :There doesn't seem to be a precedence (only three demotions due to A/RE that I can see) and it isn't explicitly spelled out in the policy. Probably means there should be a...*gulp*...policy discussion. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 19:06, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ::'Crats should man-up and set it by establishing precedent. PD is where fun and thought goes to die.-[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 19:20, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :::I know. But you can't establish precedence if there is no reason to :p. I was going to suggest that you contact Link since he (seemingly) ruled in [[UDWiki:Administration/Re-Evaluations/The General|The General]]'s successful re-evaluation without input from another crat (due to no being able to get a hold of said other crat). That's the closest thing to precedence I could find. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 19:30, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :::If there's no reason to create precedent, there's no reason to make a policy discussion.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 19:44, 10 January 2011 (UTC) | |
| ::::Establishing a precedence is a reactive action, and Ross' question was hypothetical. Therefore there is no reason to set one (it has not happened). Starting a discussion in this case would be a proactive action. We don't need to wait for something to happen to make policy for it (nor should we). So we either determine if precedence has been established already, we wait until it happens and set a precedence at that time or we doing something proactive so that precedence is not needed. I do agree that PD is not the greatest system and I personally wouldn't open this point in discussion. Waiting to see if it happens seems like a better option honestly. crats seem to be pretty like minded and fair and just. I think they'd be able to work out a difference should it ever occur. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 21:25, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :::::Exactly. it's essentially their job, so they should sort it out if it happens.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 21:31, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::::I should probably leave a message on DDR's talk page asking him about it then. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 21:47, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :::::::I see wha yu did thar :D....Yeah, we all jumped on top of that one, didn't we? Ah well, at least we take an interest in each others affairs. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 22:02, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
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| In my opinion, the general line should be that when '''no agreement can be reached, no action can be taken.''' In this case there would be no promotions, and no demotions either. This would be an extreme situation though, where neither crats would be willing to bind in. I can't ever remember or imagine this happening though in practice. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 21:45, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
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| The "tie vote means no action" line of thought would lead to demotion. Re-evaluation is a "re-promotion" of sorts - the idea is to re-affirm a new term, not to present the option for a vote of no confidence. Essentially, A/RE is a streamlined A/PM that cuts out the red tape for those who are approaching the end of a term rather than seeking a new one. As such, I'd follow the same precedent as A/PM - no consensus, no sysop powers. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 19:14, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
| | was there any discussion about it on the wiki ? --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 14:45, 25 May 2018 (UTC) |
| :I agree. It's better to have a small group of trustworthy and competent sysops than a small group +1 where the "+1" is a bad addition. I definitely can see the others' logic since keeping the sysop would be maintaining the status quo, but the whole purpose of A/RE is to break the status quo by forcing a rethinking of their usefulness, so the default should be to reject them, not keep them. Basically, it's intended to be used to cut the fat, so that's what the default needs to be. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:51, 11 January 2011 (UTC) | | :Not that I'm aware of. It's on Kevan, so our lack of discussion here on the wiki is not really surprising. Frankly, given that he cut off payments from UK customers to comply with updated business regulations a few years back, I was half expecting that the wiki and game might suddenly shut down so that he wouldn't have to worry about any potential GDPR compliance issues, but that hasn't happened (yet). {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 17:06, 25 May 2018 (UTC) |
| ::The whole purpose of A/RE is to establish if the sysops in question is still a trusted user (check the policy) and nothing more then that. Maintaining the status quo or not has not been mentioned in the policy. I'll stick that it (this issue) is completely open to interpretation.--[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 20:19, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
| | :No. I'm not really the person to discuss the GDPR thing. I honestly don't really know much about it at all, so if anyone else wants to chime in with thoughts, please do. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 03:47, 26 May 2018 (UTC) |
| :::What you said is indeed its ''stated'' purpose, but the fact that the policy even exists is proof that it's intended to break the status quo, otherwise they wouldn't have written it. Prior to that policy the status quo was being maintained, and without the policy it would have continued to be maintained, but with the policy the status quo gets shaken up. However, I'll grant that this issue is open to interpretation as well. One correction to what I said earlier: I misspoke when I said "usefulness"; I should have said "trustworthiness". I'd correct it, but you already replied. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 20:52, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::You're right, A/RE was made to cut the team down to its best and most reliable parts, in essence it was just to get rid of the garbage users who were a blight on the community and still managed to somehow have sysop status. Nowadays it's just a remnant of that attempt to trim down the numbers with little importance. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 02:40, 12 January 2011 (UTC) | |
| :This all according to you, you mean? I get your reasoning, it's just a different interpretation of things. However, I think it is actually a vote of confidence or no-confidence by the crats (based on community opinion). Before the A/RE policy was implemented there were no "terms", sysops could last indefinitely provided they edited a very small amount ever so often. They only could be demoted through Misconduct. A/RE was created to give the community more influence, and to establish if a "trusted user" was still a trusted user.
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| :Still, what your staying stands, I don't see any wrong or right side here. This doesn't really solve anything, it all boils to the Crats interpretation and decision as the precedent given on A/PM can be taken both ways.--[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 20:12, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
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| I've always treated it as a repromotion like Misanthropy said, and regarding Crat consensus I always treated it in the way Grim once told me on IRC in 08; a crat has a veto power he can use and if no decision can be agreed upon then the user won't be re/promoted. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 02:40, 12 January 2011 (UTC) | | I was going to back it up for you, then noticed you already did. The idea is not bad, too bad kevan has not decided to do this. He seems to be active still on his main site. --{{User:Gardenator/sig}} 06:06, 30 May 2018 (UTC) |
| :I'm more than happy to concur. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:26, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
| | :Thanks, I figured Kevan would never ever see it, but it’s fun to suggest things and I enjoy keeping them archived somewhere to remember them. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 12:37, 30 May 2018 (UTC) |
| ::Because I can't work out what would happen if I didn't. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:26, 12 January 2011 (UTC) | | :Great job cleaning out the suggestions section by the way. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 12:40, 30 May 2018 (UTC) |
| :::Lol. For me as a crat the promotion discussions have always been very personal transparent discussions. As such I think there's a level of control for the crats to decide how their relationship will work when it comes to agreeing. If I'm against a user being promoted but Ross, for example, were to be so for a promotion that it would outweigh my own feelings against it, I wouldn't be against following through with a promotion rather than veto-ing. But in theory I prefer the veto method as a default method for sorting out bids. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 12:26, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::What you describe here, is a situation where one crat eventually gives in. But if neither is willing to give in? The worst what could happen is that Ross, for example, demoted Yonnua. And then that you DDR, would repromote him with something like "Fuck off" in the edit summary. What would happen is that you both would likely be taken up to Misconduct, with the rest of sysop team deciding on a solution. But that's extreme; Like you said, it's likely one of you would just give in, only when the crat team consists of the most stubborn people ever would this ever be an issue. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 12:51, 12 January 2011 (UTC) | |
| :::::Well, if the crats reach an impass, it's as everyone's described, I believe, as the guidelines hint towards both crats reaching a decision in order to promote. Grim rejected J3D's first promotion withou consulting with Boxy at all, because Box was inactive at the time. Box inquired and Grim rightfully said that he had veto power so whether Box even (unlikely) wanted to promote J3D, it wouldn't have really mattered. ''If'' I had done that, which I wouldn't, yeah, I imagine I would be sent to Misconduct but I don't think Ross would have. Oh and I feel like being a dickhead so I'll mention that you can't leave edit summaries when changing user rights :P -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 13:02, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::::Thanks for the information, heh. But I was talking about when crats would argue about what veto-power meant in A/RE, not in A/PM where it's pretty clear. It's all purely theoretical, and I'm sure it will remain this way. Can't imagine that it will ever get this far, with any of the current users. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 16:05, 12 January 2011 (UTC) | |
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| Lucky we had this discussion, what with Cheese's A/RE. Gonna be a doozey. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 03:17, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
| | [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Deletions&curid=156506&diff=2355302&oldid=2355238#Wrong_image_type an interwiki link augh] it's just a wikilink |
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| Can images be undeleted? Some of the Red October images seem to have been deleted. Probably because they were only used in a switch template and thus showed up on unused images. If they can be undeleted, I will ark them somewhere. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 06:27, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
| | yes it bothered me enough to come post on your page about it |
| :I'm afraid not. It's an option on wikis that Kevan unticked because of the space it requires. Sorry mate. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 06:29, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ::Shit, ok hopefully I have them tucked away somewhere so I can reupload. Glad I asked before I put in a request, though. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 06:31, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :::Np, good luck. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 06:31, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ==So, remember how I set up those edit links?==
| | yes I know that's ridiculous |
| ...the ones that go from the Community Portal on the main page so that you can edit Featured Articles or Community Projects? Yeah. Totally useless to normal users. Since the main page is protected, normal users don't see the edit links at all, but I didn't realize that until now since sysops can see them just fine while everyone else just sees a blank spot where they would show up. Adding some manually created ones might not be a bad idea, honestly, but I'm retired/inactive now, so... *poke* {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 08:53, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :Wow. I never realised how... impossible it was for everyone else. Will giz try when I wake up tomorow -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 13:51, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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| == In no way an abuse of power. ==
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| [[UDWiki:Administration/Re-Evaluations#User:Rosslessness|In relation to this]], the week long process ends tomorrow. I'd say that there seems a majority of people who want to retain him. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 15:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
| | {{User:Revenant/Sig}} {{Goonsig|Revenant}} 11:11, 8 July 2018 (UTC) |
| :Yeah yeah I know. By aussie time it's already the 16th but waiting for wiki clock to go over before I discuss it with myself. Stop trying to coerce me with your bias or I'll have you straight on Misconduct, punk -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 15:40, 15 January 2011 (UTC) | | :Hey, things are good, thank you. I hope you are too. |
| ::We are all just waiting until 5 minutes before the expiration to change ''all'' our votes to '''FUCKING STRONG AGAINST'''. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 15:42, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
| | :Would you be able to let me know where I made the mistake? I remember trying a couple of Wikipedia links in the last week, so I’m not sure where I got it wrong. Thanks. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 12:30, 8 July 2018 (UTC) |
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| Bid Ends pretty soon. Thoughts? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 17:53, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
| | Seems that the user Pyropardus is taking over user Pardus and other associated pages. Afaik, this should not be done. http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Special:Contributions/Pyropardus --{{User:Gardenator/sig}} 22:40, 16 August 2018 (UTC) |
| :He's a bro, he's honest and admits when he's made a mistake, and will stick with his decision even under heat (like the confrontation by Yonnua on the bid). I really dig the dude, I think he's trusted more than enough to get promoted. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 00:51, 19 January 2011 (UTC) | | :I'm interested to hear what you think- I saw those and interpreted it as the same user coming back under a new account (perhaps they forgot their old password) and just reclaiming their old projects, which isn't uncommon. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/tcs}} 22:53, 16 August 2018 (UTC) |
| ::Yarp. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 02:04, 19 January 2011 (UTC) | | ::Particularly because all they've done on that group page is do a couple of small spelling fixes, etc. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/tcs}} 22:54, 16 August 2018 (UTC) |
| | :::Ok, and that is fine reasoning; however, Pyropardus blanked user Pardus's page and erased quite a bit of data off of two other pages. Now compare that to user Igotmadenoughtomakeanewaccount, who was warned for making edits to user Shaqfu's page. There was some back and forth so it was apparent that Shaqfu didn't want the edit to his page. The edits were the addition of two templates, one of which called user A Helpful Little Gnome a "five alarm fuckwit". That appeared to draw user A Helpful Little Gnome into creating a V/B case against user Igotmadenoughtomakeanewaccount. |
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| == Thanks for the kind words ==
| | :::What I really don't like is the precedent this could set. Does this mean that anyone can make a new account like say user NewMartyBanks, and then proceed to edit user MartyBanks profile and erase large portions of the group he is associated with?--{{User:Gardenator/sig}} 02:43, 18 August 2018 (UTC) |
| | ::::I convinced myself to make the V/B case.--{{User:Gardenator/sig}} 02:59, 18 August 2018 (UTC) |
| | :::::Sure. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/tcs}} 05:52, 18 August 2018 (UTC) |
| | :::::So just to put my 2c in now the case is done is I'm pleased you bought the case forward because it can be better to be safe than sorry, and I'm cool with that, although I consider the precedent you seem wary of to simply be "assuming good faith", which is the vibe I got from the whole situation (luckily I was right, though I could have easily been wrong and looked like a tit). Nothing wrong with escalating an issue because no one else has brought anything up because of assumptions. I think you did the right thing. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/tcs}} 16:37, 18 August 2018 (UTC) |
| | ::::::Yeah, I was wary for that above reason, plus I think pardus was one of the free speech for all people we were arguing with on discord. I wanted to make the issue known before when I first noticed it, but I wanted to wait to see of there were anymore edits. It did get some humorous stuff going when bob and pyropadus started edit warring. --{{User:Gardenator/sig}} 16:53, 18 August 2018 (UTC) |
| | :::::::Yeah. That was weird and hilarious. I hadn't made the potential connection with the account and the latest Discord issues. That would have made it definitely checking up. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/tcs}} 16:56, 18 August 2018 (UTC) |
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| [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Promotions&diff=1836678&oldid=1834557 This actually meant a lot]. It's nice to be remembered for those sorts of reasons. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 10:49, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
| | == Warning (Totes Official) == |
| :Can I add your comments on [[User:Rosslessness/Hmm|this]] were also a joy of reason and clarity. Come back! --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:08, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ::I still haven't really left. I'm slowly removing pages from my watchlist (down from over 1000 to around 240 now), but I still check it a few times a day. >_> {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 17:48, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :No probs mate, but you shouldn't have to say thanks, I was only calling it as I saw things :] -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 03:25, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
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| == Thanks, and BALLS TO THE WHALLS! ==
| | [[Image:Stop_hand.png|left|35px]] Please stop telling people they should feel honored to be warned by me. It's weird. Continuing to do so may result in additional requests of this variety. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 08:22, 3 December 2018 (UTC) |
| | :What an honour! I was just about to joke about how now I can use this 'warning' to fulfil another bucket list item by sending you to misconduct... But I just checked through your archive and it turns out I already did! I even got you banned! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 08:37, 3 December 2018 (UTC) |
| | ::But for real, please don’t leave Aichon... 😢 {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 21:15, 3 December 2018 (UTC) |
| | :::I'll still generally be available if someone pings me, but I don't plan to check in on my own otherwise. There's enough other stuff going on to keep me busy in life, and those things are the areas I'd like to be putting more of my attention going forward, so it's time to clear out the old time sinks that I've allowed to accumulate. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 23:54, 3 December 2018 (UTC) |
| | ::::Good call. We all have to do it eventually. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 02:10, 4 December 2018 (UTC) |
| | :::::Very apropos that one of the biggest time-sinks in my life, tumblr, seems to be collapsing as we speak. More time for me to dedicate to danger updates! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 02:44, 4 December 2018 (UTC) |
| | ::::::Chin up Bob, if it’s nude photos you’re gonna be missing from Tumblr then let me tell you a bit about a thing we call the internet! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 10:41, 4 December 2018 (UTC) |
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| DDR, you get an official BALLS TO THE WHALLS shout out for the tip. I removed the TOC from our page, and it looks a lot better. Also curious, since you are a wiki pro do you have any idea if there has been a though to making a page dedicated to discussing which groups have been around the longest? Revenant and I have come to a disagreement about his list, but he's not responding much anymore. And besides, that seems like the kind of thing that might belong on the wiki anwyay. --[[User:Dhavid Grohl|Dhavid Grohl]] 03:31, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :The initial thought would be to check for the oldest page edits here, but since there was a logs pure a while back, that's not going to stretch back far enough. I know that DK13 tend to claim they were the first organised group, and I've not actually seen that refuted anywhere, but where it falls into place from there becomes dodgy. You can infer a rough timeline without too much effort, but actually ranking a list seems far too herculean a task to realistically manage, especially given how prone half the community are to exaggeration. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:48, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :If you wanna start a discussion for everyone to input and discuss, [[UDWiki:Open Discussion|Open Discussion]] is a great place. On the wiki we allow those Open Discussions to be announced on the main page, so it's usually good for getting lots of feedback. Personally though, I think your best bet would be using the trusty [http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://wiki.urbandead.com wayback machine]. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 05:17, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ::Btw, the machine also archived [http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.urbandead.com/stats.html stats page]. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 05:21, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ==Toughie== | | I’m in PNG for the upcoming week. I don’t expect to have decent access to internet. I return home on Saturday. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 11:09, 10 December 2018 (UTC) |
| | :At least they didn't send you to crummy JPG or inefficient BMP. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 21:34, 11 December 2018 (UTC) |
| | ::The way the internet is here I think a BMP would put me out for several hours. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 04:17, 12 December 2018 (UTC) |
| | :::<nowiki>*</nowiki>shakes head* Shoulda gone to SVG, lbr. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 04:31, 12 December 2018 (UTC) |
| | :Oh wow. Surprised I missed this note earlier. Have fun there. Don't let your time get compressed or your luggage get returned to you in a lossy state. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:17, 11 December 2018 (UTC) |
| | ::Fingers crossed... {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 04:17, 12 December 2018 (UTC) |
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| Not really. Looking at the comments I have a strong feeling about which way I'm going. Talk to you in a day.--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 21:54, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :and you can email me if you get stuck. (Although I'd later publish said emails contents on the wiki, as I generally hate wiki stuff happening off wiki. which is why I never use IRC. ) --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 21:58, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ::Dw, I'd just paraphrase the conversation in the cycling on the bid. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 23:32, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :::Well email me if you wish, --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 23:45, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::Don't worry, I'm fine with discussing in public. See ya tomorow. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 02:08, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :::::Not really. With the votes being ridiculously split its down to us, and in fairness, I agree completely with your position on the page in question. (''Not that in my opinion you should be stating there, but hey, I'm not going to win that argument.'') Beyond that the arguments for retention have less pull for me than the arguments against. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 21:50, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::::Alright. I was always going to ask you to give some analysis on my points on A/RE, so the fact you've done it already is a help. Yes, I think the ideal decision would be to bump him back down to user level, with absolutely no discrimination or hard feelings if he does some good work and comes back later and asks for the buttons. If he did that then I'd be wrong in the way I saw him (as others have) and would happily admit it. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 02:19, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :::::::Yeah, its something I've been thinking about. From now on I'm going to try and justify my decisions a bit more clearly. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:01, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :::::::::Yes. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:36, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::::::::Okay, I've cycled it. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 12:13, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
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| | [https://photos.app.goo.gl/bTvDPFUKzftVTh8v5 our sigs are busted on Chrome for Android] {{:(}} {{User:Revenant/Sig}} {{Goonsig|Revenant}} 03:55, 5 January 2019 (UTC) |
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| Any chance of you fixing the last 15 or so revisions of A/A? I didn't know which ones should and shouldn't be restored, and as you were involved, it might be better for you to have a look.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 19:34, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
| | Hi, just in case it doesn't get noticed now traffic on the wiki is so low, could you take care of my request? Wish you the best! --[[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: darkblue; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: gold; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 19:31, 6 March 2019 (UTC) |
| :Thank you for reminding me, completely forgot. Just did it back to Boxy's edit, that was the one where he removed the sensitive information. Thanks for doing all the big work too, it fucking sucks hey. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 00:09, 30 January 2011 (UTC) | | :All good. Thanks. All the best to you and farewell mate. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 01:55, 7 March 2019 (UTC) |
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| | From the 17th of March to the 7th of April I will be travelling to NYC, Toronto and London for work and may have poor access to UDWiki. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 02:04, 7 March 2019 (UTC) |
| Its been fun today! --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 00:08, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
| | :Nice! {{User:Revenant/Sig}} {{Goonsig|Revenant}} 09:43, 7 March 2019 (UTC) |
| :Ugh... He's so EASY! I wish so badly that we could just change his userpage and group pages to big pro-jewish pages. Lordy it would drive him mad. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 00:09, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ::Yeah, We could always make an NPOV page, after all the group IS on the stats page. BTW, if I knew exactly where some of them were in game, know anyone who would be interested? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:38, 31 January 2011 (UTC) | |
| :::me me me!----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 12:16, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::I'd bring a sleeper out of retirement ;) <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:24 31 January 2011 (BST)</span></small>
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| Thanks for pointing that out. I only checked the archives back a year, and forgot that the specific section is cycled regularly. Turns out it six in the last year. As for the case, Ill read it now. As for ice, meh. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 02:04, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :You have points, but IMO they aren't nearly enough to render the whole community's opinion useless. See, we must act on the community opinion more than our own, and ''that's'' why I put my opinion on peoples bids on A/PM and A/RE. because that's ''my'' opinion, and once it's out in the open it's a lot harder for me to be able to push it into the opinion of my decision making as a crat (anyone is free to call bias, etc.).
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| :But whatevs, we'll see how everything goes. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 03:47, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
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| [[User:April Jones]] --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:59, 30 January 2011 (UTC) | | I appreciate your help, DDR. Since you are knowledgeable about signatures, perhaps you could point me to a link that shows/explains how to take a descriptive two-line string of code that delineates a signature ("font-family", etc.) and turns it into the compact form such as your <nowiki>[[User:DDR|DDR]]</nowiki>. I want to be able to turn the strings of descriptors in mine to the compact version of [[Catherine Cushing|Lizzie Donner]]. I made up a signature for each alt and put them on the bottom of my homepage, User: Catherine Cushing. I feel like the code isn't written up properly somehow. Maybe that's because I don't understand any of it (just filched it from other peoples' pages.) |
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| | Since I wrote that I did find a place that I think explains how to make a nice signature properly. It is: https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_intro.asp |
| A little bird told me you may be a good source to tap on questions about categories. I'm thinking of a project that would kind of pick up where [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Special:lonelypages|this one]] died. Where the discussion died is we were discussing creating an ark for inclusion pages like recruit ads and nav bars and using external liks on other pages. I don't necessarily care to tackle the orphan template part of the problem right now, but I want to address the creation of an ark of inlucsion only pages as a seperate project. So my idea is that I want to make a new category, [[:Category:Inclusions]] in which each group with subpages used as inclusions would have their own sub-category. The sub category would then serve as an ark for the pages, effectively clearing them from [[Special:lonelypages]]. I tried to figure out how to easily make sub categories but I'm afraid I'm lacking in the knowledge of categories to pull it off. So, can you lend a hand? {{User:Vapor/sig}} 21:16, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :Let me be a little more specific. For my group [[Fight Factory]], I use [[Fight Factory/Nav]] and [[Fight Factory/Recruitment]] as inclusion only pages. I'd like to categorize them in such a way that on [[:Category:Inclusions]] there is a sub-category named [[:Category:Inclusions/Fight Factory]] (which should be displayed simply as [[Fight Factory]]). I then click to navigate to the [[Fight Factory]] sub-category and then add internal links to my inclusion pages. The sub-category serves the dual purpose of categorising all my inclusion pages in one place and clears it from [[Special:lonelypages]]. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 21:31, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ::I thiiiink I've gotten a grasp on what you mean, but I don't know if it's just me, but wouldn't using the groups own category page (assuming they have one) be much easier? and then perhaps categorising their groupcategory page into [[:Category:Inclusions]]? Makes a whole lot less cats. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 23:44, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :::That would work except that not every group has its own caregory. And for the purpose of clearing lonleypages, each group using inclusions would need one. We'd end up with a shitload of cats instead of a shitload of sub-cats. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 00:10, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::Well, as far as I'm aware, as far as mediawiki's involved there is no difference between subcats and cats, they both function in the exact same way and don't really give any benefits. So for all intents and purposes you'd be better off (imo) just making them a group category, telling them about it and categorising it into [[:Category:Inclusions]]. That is, after all the purpose of categories anyway so you don't have to deal with subcats etc. The wiki software would treat them as "subcategories" later on the Inclusions cat anyway, like what you see with [[:Category:Groups]]. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 00:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::::np. Either way ''is'' fine, I just think using pre-existing group categories is the logical step to start, then make uniform categories for the rest of the groups just makes sense from there. Either way, all will be good. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 00:28, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :::::::Your way worked beautifully. My way...not so much. It may be because I don't fully understand what I'm doing. Maybe you can look over what I've done and let me know if I did something wrong. I did [[:Category:CORAM]] your way and [[:Category:Inclusions/Fight Factory]] my way. On [[:Category:Inclusions]], CORAM is listed correctly but Fight Factory is not. I really wouldn't mind doing it the way you've suggested, would just need to rethink the project a bit and make it streamlined. Thanks for your help. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 06:35, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::::::Ahh yes. If you actually intended for it to appear at "subcategories" the whole time using your way (that may have been your intention the whole time and I didn't understand) then yeah, my way is the only way that'll work, because the mediawiki definition of a subcategory is simple a category that's been categorised- essentially a category inside a category. You can see it worked when you included [[:Category:Inclusions/Fight Factory]], but with an element of redundancy somewhat. And you'll also notice that simply categorising [[Fight Factory/Nav]] into Category:Inclusions/Fight Factory hasn't actually counted towards a link, to if said page was theoretically orphaned it would still be orphaned that way, so whichever way you choose, you'll need to do what you demonstrated with the CORAM category (which I think looks pretty good and neat too). -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 08:15, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::::::::Nah mate, just do it. Red tape and discussion, as you say, kills projects. The most successful large projects only succeed cause people just do it themselves without consulting. I'd be for it. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 23:46, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
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| == Internet == | | Have some fun in London. I haven't been there in 18 months (I'm in Oregon, above the Pacific in the USA.) It was August and the weather in Whitby was perfection. {{unsigned|Catherine Cushing}}I forgot; sorry.[[User:Catherine Cushing|<span style="font-family:Goudy Old Style;color:#008080;font-size:small">Catherine Cushing</span>]] [[User talk:Catherine Cushing|<span style="color:#F74A4A;font-size:small;font-family:Goudy Old Style">(talk)</span>]]But the signature I tried to write doesn't have the time and date in it!!!--[[User:Catherine Cushing|Catherine Cushing]] ([[User talk:Catherine Cushing|talk]]) 10:38, 12 March 2019 (UTC) |
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| | :Hey Catherine. Thanks for the well wishes for London. I'm excited to see it. |
| :Erm, mine? Yeah its good. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 00:07, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
| | :So I think there are two solutions to your questions. Please correct me if you have more questions or if I didn't quite understand your queries (it's been a while since I've really troubleshot signatures). |
| ::Crat elections Over. I'll let you handle the demotion and promotion. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 22:27, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
| | :The first answer to your question is possibly best answered [[Help:Signatures#Customized_Signatures|here]], with some examples of signature styles etc. that will still help you out with coding and what codes might make your signatures look like what. |
| :::Done. You may notice I did it so fast the human eye didn't notice it happening. Or the wiki software :| -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 23:51, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
| | :As for your second question, I have a complex signature that appears in code just as '''<nowiki>{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}}</nowiki>'''when I type my <nowiki>"~~~~"</nowiki>. The way you do that is to go to preferences (top right of this whole page) and go to signature and you add '''<nowiki>{{SUBST:Nosubst|User:YOUR SIG HERE}}</nowiki>.''' So for example, mine says right now, ''' <nowiki>{{SUBST:Nosubst|User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}}</nowiki>'''. You are able to go to the real page of [[User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5]] and see the code for yourself, but thanks to this nifty trick, all that code doesn't end up on a page every time I type the signature, the wiki just uses that code as a template. |
| | :Does that help you at all? {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 09:44, 12 March 2019 (UTC) |
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| | ::That is extremely helpful and very kind of you, DDR, thank you. (I didn't realize until just now that the signatures I composed have no date and time stamping function included. Ugh.) --[[User:Catherine Cushing|Catherine Cushing]] ([[User talk:Catherine Cushing|talk]]) 10:38, 12 March 2019 (UTC) |
| | :::You can manually add the timestamp! Just type in <nowiki>~~~~~</nowiki> after you put in the template to show the sig you want. Also, if you create a separate page for each signature (just like DDR has) then those pages can be used as the template coding then adding in the five tildes afterwards. You might want to ask Bob what he does, as he switches between signatures depending on what he is doing on the wiki. He has his main one, but then for danger status updates, he often uses his Danger Updater signature. So he might be able to give you another point of view on how to do things with your alt's signatures :) {{User:Stelar/sig}} 11:16, 12 March 2019 (UTC) |
| | ::::For my side signatures, I have a subpage for them (just like a regular signature), e.g. at [[User:Bob Moncrief/DUSig]]. Then, I type ''<nowiki>{{User:Bob Moncrief/DUSig}} ~~~~~</nowiki>'', which transcludes the side signature and then adds just the timestamp (with five tildes, as opposed to four tildes, which would also include my regular signature). {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 11:58, 12 March 2019 (UTC) |
| | :::::Thanks all for pitching in to answer that third query that I skimmed past... Basically as Bob and Stelar have said above in regards to getting your 'alternate' signatures to appear as though you are speaking as one of your alts. (Might as well do one for this here message, by manually typing an old sig and then adding the 5 tildes.) {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig2}} 04:10, 13 March 2019 (UTC) |
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| | ::::::This is fantastically generous of you all, and I actually understand it!!! (I believe it has also illuminated the idea of posting a template one has made on a file page, so that it actually works out in the UD Wiki world.) I can't tell you how incredibly grateful I am for your help. P.S. I wasn't sure I was allowed to insert a live link for something outside the UD Wiki, so I put spaces into the address for that w3 school tutorial thingee I found. [[User:Catherine Cushing|<span style="font-family:Goudy Old Style;color:#008080;font-size:small">Catherine Cushing</span>]] [[User talk:Catherine Cushing|<span style="color:#F74A4A;font-size:small;font-family:Goudy Old Style">(talk)</span>]] 08:58, 13 March 2019 (UTC) |
| :Hey mate. Unfortunately I don't have the time to do image editing just now :( I rarely do it enough as it is. Sorry. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 00:21, 1 February 2011 (UTC) | | :::::::You're welcome! Never be afraid to ask a question, there will always be someone around that can answer it! The wiki can be a bit confusing until you get the hang of it. {{User:Stelar/sig}} 10:44, 14 March 2019 (UTC) |
| ::What do you need? {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 12:28, 1 February 2011 (UTC) | |
| :::Retrieved from my talk page... {{Quote|Defender Of The Weak|Well, I figured what my group symbol would be. It's a hand reaching out from the bottom left corner, and a hand grasping it firmly from the upper-right corner of the picture, a bit of a labcoat sleeve can be seen on the upper arm. The hand in the bottom corner is scratched up a bit, thin. It's supposed to be a cartoon style, but not wacky. More like comic or something. Think you could do that for me?}} --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:29, 1 February 2011 (UTC) | |
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| | Just received your message: "Editor's summary: Term as crat has finished". I wanted to thank you for all your help and kind advice. Be well. [[User:Catherine Cushing|<span style="font-family:Goudy Old Style;color:#008080;font-size:small">'''Catherine Cushing'''</span>]] [[User talk:Catherine Cushing|<span style="color:#F74A4A;font-size:small;font-family:Goudy Old Style">(talk)</span>]] 23:27, 15 June 2019 (UTC) |
| :Sorry I thought I replied to this yesterday but my net must have faulted. Yeah, you can do what you want, and I guess the expectation for criticism will be higher now he's an op? Either way, it's fair game on the wiki, just don't make too much of a habit of it (ie. a majority of your contributions hounding a certain user over the space of a few months) else you may be tagged for harassment. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 22:09, 10 February 2011 (UTC) | | :Hey Catherine, thanks for your well wishes, but no need to worry- I’m still an administrator, nothing has really changed in practical terms. I’ve just handed the role of beaurecrat (a slightly higher position with an added admin responsibility) to Bob Moncrief. It’s ok and I’ll still be around 👍 {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 01:42, 16 June 2019 (UTC) |
| ::aww come on you know I don't take any of this seriously. plus unlike thad. i do have a life.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 03:28, 11 February 2011 (UTC) | | ::Well, that's good news! I'm glad you both got a well-deserved promotion and that you will still be around. (Promise not to pester you for advice, though. ;) ) [[User:Catherine Cushing|<span style="font-family:Goudy Old Style;color:#008080;font-size:small">'''Catherine Cushing'''</span>]] [[User talk:Catherine Cushing|<span style="color:#F74A4A;font-size:small;font-family:Goudy Old Style">(talk)</span>]] 02:05, 16 June 2019 (UTC) |
| :::Yeah I know you wouldn't and you have better things to do, trust me. I was just giving you the honest answer. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 04:08, 11 February 2011 (UTC) | | :::Feel free to ask us for any advice Catherine! It's what we are here for. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 00:24, 17 June 2019 (UTC) |
| ::::it won't be me, i'll try and push sonny into doing it more than me. :P. should not be too hard.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 13:17, 11 February 2011 (UTC) | | ::::When I make pancakes the first one always sticks and gets fucked up. Any advice for me? -- [[file:SomethingSomething.gif|link=http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User:Jack's_Inflamed_Sense_Of_Rejection]] 20:36, 19 June 2019 (UTC) |
| | :::::Hmm. That's a tough one. I'd recommend doing an Open Discussion for a meandering session to gain consensus on the issue, vote on the best way through Policy Discussion and if you continue to have issues bring the suggesters to Arbitration so we can bring out justice to the troublemakers. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 22:59, 19 June 2019 (UTC) |
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| [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Malton_Manhunt/Axe_Hack's_Manhunt_4 AH manhunt 4] your name's not on the list.--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 23:55, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
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| :I wanted to have a break, still considering whether I want in -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 21:59, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
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| ::Come on, man. It's the first Manhunt to feature the return of the Gnome! ;D --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 22:02, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
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| :::Well... he DID kill me in the first one, so I would like to get mine back. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 22:04, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
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| :: What kind of break is this from killing, manhunts or UD?--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 14:50, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
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| :::A bit of all. DDR sorely needs to help out his local Kilt Store, the manhunts had been sucking his time away from him. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 01:03, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
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| | I'm not sure when I'm supposed to sign things I write (except messages like this one, obviously.) The revised parks list just seemed to be important enough to be able to back up with my work list, to document, in other words. [[User:Catherine Cushing|<span style="font-family:Goudy Old Style;color:#008080;font-size:small">'''Catherine Cushing'''</span>]] [[User talk:Catherine Cushing|<span style="color:#F74A4A;font-size:small;font-family:Goudy Old Style">(talk)</span>]] 04:58, 2 July 2019 (UTC) |
| I had hoped that you'd see it on Ross' talk and save me the trouble of having the same discussion in multiple places. But it has been sitting there for some days now, so I better bring it here: [[User_talk:Rosslessness#Probationary_Sys-Op]] Your thoughts on that as one of the current crats? Think that it would be a worthwhile policy suggestion? --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 14:44, 12 February 2011 (UTC) | | :For pages like that, I'd just make the edit, and put the reasoning in the edit summary. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 12:01, 2 July 2019 (UTC) |
| :kk -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 01:02, 13 February 2011 (UTC) | | ::That should have occurred to me, Bob. I'll do that if any similar situation comes up. Thanks. [[User:Catherine Cushing|<span style="font-family:Goudy Old Style;color:#008080;font-size:small">'''Catherine Cushing'''</span>]] [[User talk:Catherine Cushing|<span style="color:#F74A4A;font-size:small;font-family:Goudy Old Style">(talk)</span>]] 10:10, 4 July 2019 (UTC) |
| | :No problem. Out of curiosity, where’d you get the newer count? {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 12:05, 2 July 2019 (UTC) |
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| ==Spiderzed== | | == Note of Inactivity (3) == |
| Well, yeah. His answers to my inane questions were excellent. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 10:02, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
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| :Excellent. I'm going out now in a rush, will be back in 3 or so hours for a drunk promotion if he's not promoted by then. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 10:06, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
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| ::I'm definitely not going to bother then. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 13:30, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
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| :::you probably should have. I almost made a 2 paragraph rant about him. Had to cut it down to the bare minimum to not feel/seem like a jackass -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 13:32, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
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| == Front Page Content ==
| | From the 7th of September to the 31st of October, I will be traveling through Europe and my access to the wiki will be sporadic. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 03:27, 31 August 2019 (UTC) |
| | :And now in Mexico until mid November. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 04:13, 9 November 2019 (UTC) |
| | ::ur a butt, u butt {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 23:09, 21 November 2019 (UTC) |
| | :::👍 {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 11:06, 24 November 2019 (UTC) |
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| Any chance we could get the [[Red_Rum/Vasectomy_Tour|Vasectomy Tour]] onto the front page? [[The_Big_Prick|TBP]] got their tour on there, and we're basically doing the same thing.
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| Also, I'm thinking about putting forward a time restriction on re-appeals for sysopness so that Cheese can't rere-apply after failing reevaluation again, how would I go around doing that, and what're your thoughts on the proposal? {{User:Ashley Valentine/sig}} 12:13, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
| | Was I not supposed to edit his talk page? --{{User:Gardenator/sig}} 03:13, 18 March 2020 (UTC) |
| :No worries on the Tour, [[Template:Community Projects]] is the place to go to have your event announced, we're trying to support most events which aren't just 2 man duds so you are welcome to add it there. Once it's on that template, it will appear on the Main Page. | | :That’s 100% my fault. I must have accidentally clicked revert. Have undone the revert, apologies. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 03:34, 18 March 2020 (UTC) |
| :As for the re-appeal idea, [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion]] is the place to go. As the rules say down the bottom, you make your page, ie. [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/Limit Re-application timeframe]] or whatever you'd like, then describe it on the page. You'll get input on the talk page. | | ::It is ok, I actually cannot even see the comment I made but I think that was his intention. --{{User:Gardenator/sig}} 22:42, 18 March 2020 (UTC) |
| :My opinion is that it isn't a really bad idea, but there may be some issues with it, for example, if Cheese's demotion had been seen as a little unjust, it would be unfair to have Cheese limited to waiting, say, 3 months before having to reapply again, if he theoretically had the community support to pass. But you could then counter that with the argument that the community can't change enough in only a couple of weeks enough to warrant reapplying someone? Who knows, if you put it up it'd be bound to get some decent discussion going. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 13:13, 15 February 2011 (UTC) | |
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| ==An end to this process== | | == [[A/RE]] == |
| Yeah promote him, having seen his work on at least 4 other wiki's i'm happy for him to gnome it up. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 10:12, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
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| :yeah it's not the gnoming I'm worried about. either way, done done. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 11:54, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
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| ::Excellent. Lets try and go a week without promoting anyone. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:56, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
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| :::We are sooooo gonna be responsible for super huge angry fighting sysop team. It's a big cycle, after a year we'll be forcing the black sheep out again. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 12:00, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::Simple. We re-evaluate boxy in three months, you lose the Crat election, and I resign just before it happens. Nothing to do with us. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 12:06, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
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| :::::Bastards <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:37 17 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
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| | So... demote everyone? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 15:40, 23 July 2020 (UTC) |
| | :I don’t know french, but I think it’s safe to say everyone’s passed. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 14:40, 25 July 2020 (UTC) |
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| I am interested in becoming more active on the wiki and help with boring, janitorial tasks - do you know where I might start? --[[User:C Whitty|C Whitty]] 19:44, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
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| :I am not DDR, but as a start I can point you at Aichon's list [[User:Aichon/Other/So_you_want_to_be_a_sysop%3F#Janitorial_Work|here]]. Those points are overall served, but suffer still occassionally from slacking (especially menial tasks as closing votes, cycling Developing Suggestions, updating wiki news or archiving old suburb news). Particularly categorizing images and pages (#9) is good work, as it teaches a bit about using special pages and about categories that exist on that wiki. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 19:53, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
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| ::Point one under "Drama Work" on the same page is a good one. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:05, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
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| :::Thanks I will look at those and im pretty newb at technical stuff so just let me know if I mess up--[[User:C Whitty|C Whitty]] 21:37, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
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| ==Premature...== | | I am consistently semi active. --[[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness/Quiz|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[The Great Suburb Group Massacre|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]<sup>[[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: DarkRed">Want a Location Image?]] </span> </sup> 15:06, 2 December 2020 (UTC) |
| Methinks. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:35, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
| | :I prefer to describe myself as inconsistently inactive. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 04:57, 5 December 2020 (UTC) |
| :Yeah, but do the standard "hang around for a month or two and redo it" speech. Its the only real criticism of him --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 17:35, 28 February 2011 (UTC) | |
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| == Protection Scheduling == | | == Deleting Pages == |
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| Where do requests for them go? I want to make protection of concluded polls a scheduled task. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 04:11, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
| | Well hello again! I remember your name from back in the day, and I recently came back myself. Just wanted to say hi. Anyway... There's a couple pages that I had created, that I won't use/have no use for anymore. I was looking for some help on deleting them. These are the pages in question. Thanks! |
| :NVM. It looks like they just go at the bottom of the protections page but that section was deleted during cycling not long ago. I've added it back. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 04:23, 1 March 2011 (UTC) | | *http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User:Dark_Blue_Helmet/Kalei/Beach_Time_2 |
| | *http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User:Dark_Blue_Helmet/sandy_fun_time_go |
| | *http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Dark_Blue_Helmet_Kalei_Walter_Krenshaw |
| | {{unsigned|Dark Blue Helmet}} |
| | :Hi there! Great to see you’re still editing. Happy to help with the pages too. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 13:28, 2 September 2021 (UTC) |
| | ::Thanks! It's slightly strange being back. Started 13 years ago on this simple game, and here I am once again. Lol. Thanks for the help! --{{User:Dark Blue Helmet/Sig}} 14:10, 2 September 2021 (UTC) |
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| == Betaville == | | == LUE == |
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| Hey. Do you by any chance remember a very old suggestion called 'Betaville'? {{unsigned|Subsist|18:48, 1 March 2011}}
| | Had a request from a LUE member on the RRF Discord for someone to contact a wiki bod about restoring their Historical Group status, which must have been removed during one of their (many) revivals. So, here I am, bothering you. You're welcome. --[[User:LordMoloch|LordMoloch]] ([[User talk:LordMoloch|talk]]) 23:27, 8 March 2025 (UTC) |
| :I definitely remember hearing it. There have been a few test locations, both in the suggestion system and in user pages, so I don't remember where it specifically is, or if the betaville still exists. How come? -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 23:21, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
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| ::I got this covered. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 23:22, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
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| --[[User:Bjornkarl|Bjornkarl]] 08:21, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
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| == Technical USER-NAME enquiry ==
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| Will like to check with some1 active and senior in wiki whether username is case-sensitive or not. Have 2 northboundsnow acc in wiki? check whether can delete one or another. check help page, for group deletion,nt user account.
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| --[[User:NORTHBOUNDSNOW|NORTHBOUNDSNOW]] 02:07, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
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| :Yeah, on wikis it's a little odd, long story short, all usernames are case sensitive, and no matter what you make your username, the first letter will always be a capital I'm pretty sure. Eg. dancedancerevolution would become Dancedancerevolution. So you're saying you have two accounts and you'd like the unused one deleted right? -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 08:37, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
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| == i'm sure you will find a use for this. ==
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| the file might be large. but fuck it have fun with it. i know you will find some use for it. <br>
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| --{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}} 03:13, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
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| :luls. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 01:48, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
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| ::and about my sig i'm not quite folling you. so i add two more ~~ to my code on my temple page?--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}} 03:14, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
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| :::Well, your sig code is at [[User:Sexualharrison/sig]]. We use 4 tildes to sign, but if you use three, it comes up as just the sig and no timestamp, like -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}}. Conversely, if I did 5, it comes up as just the timestamp, like 04:14, 5 March 2011 (UTC).
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| :::So, you can manually input the 5 tilde code into your signature code, and then use three tildes, it will use only your signature but because your signature has the timestamp embedded into it, it should pop it out anyway. And once it's in your sig you can manipulate it with usual font codes and stuff. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 04:14, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::Wouldn't that just put the timestamp from the time that he last saved his Sig? I think he may need to use a combination of :subst and the currenttime magic word. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 04:36, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
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| :::::What I was thinking was that he might be able to get away with the <nowiki><includeonly>~~~~~</includeonly></nowiki> code. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 06:09, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::::Let's see if it works. {{User:Vapor/sandbox/sigtest}}
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| :::::::One minute later. Nope. Still using the time that I save my sig. {{User:Vapor/sandbox/sigtest}}
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| ::::::::Gah. He'll have to do it as explained on Boxy's talk page then :( -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 06:38, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
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| :::::::::Yeah boxy nailed it I think. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 07:08, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::::::boxy went way over my head and it got all wonky. here is the code I have now.. what do i change or add? <nowiki><small><div style="display: inline-block; height: 14px; width: 18px; overflow: hidden; vertical-align: text-bottom;">[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="position: absolute; display: block; font-size: 0px; height: 14px; width: 18px;"> </span>]][[Image:Boobs.sh.siggie.gif|18px]]</div> [[User talk:Sexualharrison|bitch]]</small>
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| </nowiki>--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}} 15:23, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
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| :::::::::Um, I think what boxy said was to use the localtime, localday, localmonthname,and localyear templates (if you use BST) in the box where you put the code for your sig in the preferences. Like so, except I used the currenttime, etc templates (for UTC). --{{:User:Thanatologist/Sig}}<small>16:02 5 March 2011 (UTC)</small>
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| ::::::::i'm stoned and slow. can you lay out the code.. plus I think i'm on (UTC) this <nowiki><small>16:02 5 March 2011 (UTC)</small></nowiki>is what i don't under stand how to do?--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}} 16:32, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
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| :::::::::The important thing is that the code is not going to be added to you sig page. Its got to be added directly into you preferences. You should be able to just copy any code that refers to localtime and date from boxy's page and paste it right behind your sig in your nickname preferences. Sorry, but I'm on a a tablet comp right now and copypasta is a real pain in the ass without a pointing device. But itshould besomething like <nowiki>{{SUBST:nosubst|User:Sexualharrison/sig}} <small>{{subst:LOCALTIME}} {{subst:LOCALDAY}} {{subst:LOCALMONTHNAME}} {{subst:LOCALYEAR}} (UTC)</small></nowiki>. Copy that right into your nickname preferences and tick the raw signatures bocx. Remember to sign with three tildes. I think that should work. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 17:12, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::::::::::Confirming that the abvove does in fact work. {{User:Vapor/sig}} <small>21:23, 5 March 2011</small>
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| :::::::::::yup all fixed thanks for the help--<small><div style="display: inline-block; height: 14px; width: 18px; overflow: hidden; vertical-align: text-bottom;">[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="position: absolute; display: block; font-size: 0px; height: 14px; width: 18px;"> </span>]][[Image:Boobs.sh.siggie.gif|18px]]</div> [[User talk:Sexualharrison|bitch]] 12:08 6 March 2011 (UTC)</small>
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| As an Can you change
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| *the name of my page [[Guides:An In Depth Guide to Forming Groups Part 1]] into "Guides: Guide to Forming Groups"
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| *the name of my page [[Guides:An In Depth Guide to Forming Groups Part 2]] into "Guides: Guide to Forming Groups Part 2"
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| *delete or turn my page [[Guides:An In Depth Guide to Forming Groups]] into a redirect for the first page?
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| Thanks.--[[User:Penguinpyro|Penguinpyro]] 23:36, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
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| :[[UDWiki:Administration/Move_Requests/Archive/Mar_2011#Some_guide_stuff|Done]]. Please use [[A/MR]] directly in the future. You also don't need an op to turn pages into redirects, but can do it yourself. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 23:43, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
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| on my main user space at the bottom is there a way to get all the templates lined up horizontally? it just seems like a waste of space. and i've been on a two week vaca and I'm quite bored.--<small><div style="display: inline-block; height: 14px; width: 18px; overflow: hidden; vertical-align: text-bottom;">[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="position: absolute; display: block; font-size: 0px; height: 14px; width: 18px;"> </span>]][[Image:Boobs.sh.siggie.gif|18px]]</div> [[User talk:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">bitch</span>]] 23:29 7 March 2011 (UTC)</small>
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| :boxy did a similar thing [[User:Boxy]], using that code should work (the one with all the lines of {| and | and then |}, that forms a table) -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 23:41, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
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| ::you just should have said no.. man that looks complicated--<small><div style="display: inline-block; height: 14px; width: 18px; overflow: hidden; vertical-align: text-bottom;">[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="position: absolute; display: block; font-size: 0px; height: 14px; width: 18px;"> </span>]][[Image:Boobs.sh.siggie.gif|18px]]</div> [[User talk:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">bitch</span>]] 04:18 8 March 2011 (UTC)</small>
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| :::Don't worry mate, it's actually a lot more easier than it looks. I'll explain when I have the time, gotta duck out now. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 04:41, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::Like this is gonna sit untill ddr handles it. :P Not when therz wikistuffz to be done. I made ot pretty for ya harrison. {{User:Vapor/sig}} <small>05:00, 8 March 2011</small>
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| :::::know what happens when you do shit like that? '''YOU GET GOLD''' stop doing such good work :P --<small><div style="display: inline-block; height: 14px; width: 18px; overflow: hidden; vertical-align: text-bottom;">[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="position: absolute; display: block; font-size: 0px; height: 14px; width: 18px;"> </span>]][[Image:Boobs.sh.siggie.gif|18px]]</div> [[User talk:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">bitch</span>]] 05:36 8 March 2011 (UTC)</small>
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| ::::::Now if I could be bothered to fixed my own stupid looking user page I'd be doing good. {{User:Vapor/sig}} <small>06:00, 8 March 2011</small>
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| I have to go for a bit but will expand on the a/vb case later if needed. Just didn't want ya'll to think I was ditching the discussion in the heat of things to avoid it. I gots shit to do. {{User:Vapor/sig}} <small>01:52, 8 March 2011</small>
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| :Lol no worries, it's cool. It's not really such a huge deal anyway. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 02:03, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
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| I decided to buy the game, and I have gotten a lot of fun out of it the past three days. Cave exploration is awesome. Quite addicting I have to say. How long have you been playing survival? --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 08:47, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
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| :Ermm can't be sure, maybe around september last year. I play SMP now on a server I share w/ a friend. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 06:53, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
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| == C4NT hysterical err I meant historical ==
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| i think it's time. they are off the stats page. and if there is any group that should be historical it's RON BURGUNDY and his 7 time award winning CHANNEL FOUR NEWS TEAM. i would do it myself. but I always muck up the news page when ever I try.--<small><div style="display: inline-block; height: 14px; width: 18px; overflow: hidden; vertical-align: text-bottom;">[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="position: absolute; display: block; font-size: 0px; height: 14px; width: 18px;"> </span>]][[Image:Boobs.sh.siggie.gif|18px]]</div> [[User talk:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">bitch</span>]] 13:58 19 March 2011 (UTC)</small>
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| :is it down for good? -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 22:31, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
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| ::well i was one of the original members with axe hack. I've checked into the forum and got no response. i mean it would be a different story if they were still on the stats page. i think it's time.--<small><div style="display: inline-block; height: 14px; width: 18px; overflow: hidden; vertical-align: text-bottom;">[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="position: absolute; display: block; font-size: 0px; height: 14px; width: 18px;"> </span>]][[Image:Boobs.sh.siggie.gif|18px]]</div> [[User talk:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">bitch</span>]] 22:37 19 March 2011 (UTC)</small>
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| :::C4NT is still up there on the stats page with 14 active members. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 22:46, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::Phewwwww :D -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 02:56, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
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| :::::i'm waiting the hear from 23skdoo or winka. but they did post something on the forum in January. anyway what would be the big deal? there are tons of old historical groups with members still roaming around.. the dead, BBB, FU, etc etc.--<small><div style="display: inline-block; height: 14px; width: 18px; overflow: hidden; vertical-align: text-bottom;">[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="position: absolute; display: block; font-size: 0px; height: 14px; width: 18px;"> </span>]][[Image:Boobs.sh.siggie.gif|18px]]</div> [[User talk:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">bitch</span>]] 03:00 20 March 2011 (UTC)</small>
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| ::::::My vote would be the same as the dead; even though they are still sort of active, there is NO way I'd ever vote no for their historical status. Just so sad is all -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 03:16, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
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| :::::::i'm going to give this till june if i don't hear anything.. can we cycle it in for voting? fair?--<small><div style="display: inline-block; height: 14px; width: 18px; overflow: hidden; vertical-align: text-bottom;">[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="position: absolute; display: block; font-size: 0px; height: 14px; width: 18px;"> </span>]][[Image:Boobs.sh.siggie.gif|18px]]</div> [[User talk:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">bitch</span>]] 14:18 21 March 2011 (UTC)</small>
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| ::::::::You mean submit it? That sounds fair. Although again it'll make me sad -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 00:05, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
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| Meh --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 23:58, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
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| I find you too lenient. Maybe I'm strict but come on... --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 00:17, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
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| :The only reason I didn't reply was cause I don't know what you're talking about, I wasn't ignoring you, sorry. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 00:23, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
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| ::Eh, I was being vague. It's just after all that stupidity on A/VB, then a retarded promotion bid, my patience doesn't go on forever nor do my sugar-coating skills. Just look at the mess. And he (DA) is actually being serious about becoming sysops? Lol, I think you gave him the idea he actually has a chance with this bid. You know, I wouldn't make such a fuss about it if he and the other A/PM meatpuppets/ "joke squad" would be actually trying to be contributive and active on this wiki. But no, all they do is make one stupid joke or fuck-up after the other and leave us to clean the mess. And when you call them out on it, they get pissed off and suddenly want to be taken "seriously". Boohoo Thad is a meanie, I didn't mean it like that whine whine. Ugh. /rant --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 00:35, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
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| :::I used to react like that too, it's very easy to get embroiled in the drama, I think as sysops we all have to to an extent, so it's hard. But when you take a step back, you realise the only thing they are really causing a mess on is Recent Changes, the reaction from others and the mess they try to do can be easily contained and ignored for the most part. Personally I try and treat most of them with respect as regular wiki users and to not justify their troublemaking by reacting and trying to make them stop, cause they won't.
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| :::I think in the long term we'd like guys like the IRC mobs to be able to respect us and UDWiki by extension, because it'd be nice for us to be used as extensively as we used to in the earlier years. I try and aim for that, even when they go on their attention sprees -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 00:40, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::You're saying to tolerate, no swallow their stupidity? I'm sorry man, but I disagree. Perhaps at one point I should stop arguing, but I can't turn a blind eye just to earn their respect which I honestly care little about. Either they keep in line with the rules and be productive something I would respect, or they get out. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 07:20, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
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| :::::Keeping them in line with the rules was 10% of what you did earlier today. the other 90% was faffing about justifying their mischief, as per usual in our recent admin cases. Trust me, if you weren't right a good most of the time, I'd have an actual issue with it, but I don't. Just food for thought. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 09:08, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::::I'm happily eating the thoughts, and I appreciate the input but still slightly confused. How exactly am I justifying their mischief? --[[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']][[Image:Cat Pic.png|25px]]</span> 11:44, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
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| :::::::the arguing, the promotion bid edit warring. the hounding on talk pages and threats of a/a, etc. it never works with them, it's the reaction they enjoy. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 11:47, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::::::Sorry to butt in, but this was brought to my attention and I really feel it needs addressing in the most promptest of ways. You're even stopping me from writing a lab report right now, I hope you think you're special. Thad, you really, really, seriously, OMGWTFly need to chill out. It is reasons like this that I was worried about your promotion bid (and, hell, you even agreed with me). This is not your job, and this is not something that you do to live off, much as the "irc mob" are not raiders that live via scavenging -- although Ed's appearance may deceive you. DDR is, mostly correct: you do do a lot of oddly-right stuff, but at the same time you go about it completely the wrong way. Your responses only further to justify this, and I can promise you that if you keep going along the MisterSrsBsnGame route then you won't keep the position you're in now.
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| ::::::::This is one of the very few, rare moments you will get a 'wtfhonest' response from me, as most of the time when someone does something stupid (like reporting a needless edit to A/VB, and then escalating the case in the way you guys did yesterday) it tends to end up with me laughing at them. Good luck. {{User:Ashley Valentine/sig}} 22:15, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
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| :::::::::Ha, I hope you realize we were discussing our different attitudes towards you people. I'm not taking back any of my rulings, nor do I plan to be more lenient in enforcing the rules. Perhaps I shall be less arguing but we'll see how it goes. --[[Image:Cat Pic.png|14px]] [[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 22:33, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
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| == SA ==
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| [[User:Lolwat64]] this alt get an unblock to?--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 21:45, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
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| :He used it to vandalize the wiki during his 6 month ban. It was decided to be perma'd so I doubt it. --[[Image:Cat Pic.png|14px]] [[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 21:52, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
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| ::Yeah, vandal alts getting perma-block is pretty standard. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 22:27, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
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| == Regarding Summary ==
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| [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki_talk%3AAdministration%2FVandal_Banning%2FArchive%2F2011_03&diff=1862725&oldid=1862722 This] is because it's only relevant why it was ruled that way. Although it is the reason why only one case is being discussed there and not the second one since there should have been an escalation for him for the karloth case. I didn't want to add more to the other discussion and thought it would be best to clarify that question here and leave it be. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 07:14, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
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| ==Kempy!==
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| Aww come on. That's about as good faith as it gets, and should have been left fixed. :| --[[User:SA|If my name was MisterGame AKA Thadeous Oakley, I would be a massive flaming faggot. >:|]] 02:04, 29 March 2011 (BST)
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| :I'm not saying it's bad faith, but the rules are pretty clear, and (as much as I have to fucking correct these from newbs or meapuppets) It REALLY isn't hard to just do four tildes yourself tbh -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 02:06, 29 March 2011 (BST)
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| ::...it really is, when you're as pissed up as I was that night. [[Image:Unsure.gif]] {{User:Kempy/sig}} 14:36, 30 March 2011 (BST)
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| == Holy crap. ==
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| Why do I ever make the mistake of trying to have a good faith discussion with you? None so blind as who will not see. :| {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 07:08, 30 March 2011 (BST)
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| :He wants to know what problem I have with you as a user, I say it. Though if you're talking about the sheer size of the discussion, I'm not the one to blame. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 07:17, 30 March 2011 (BST)
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| :I'd also still like you to still participate in what we were talking about though, if you want to keep focussing on what we were talking about before the tangent ruined the flow. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 07:27, 30 March 2011 (BST)
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| ::Yeah, fair enough I suppose. Things always escalate with more people.<br/> Sorry, had to go AFK and will probably be hitting the hay early tonight. FWIW, I have lots of free time due to medical issues, so I'm keen but erratic. <small>Some would say that's not much different to usual. {{tongue}}</small> To be continued… {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 11:39, 30 March 2011 (BST)
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| :::Also, remind me, do I have you on teh Facetwits? I miss chatting to you, man. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 11:51, 30 March 2011 (BST)
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| ::::Yeahboi I do, I'll hit you up via the link you dropped on A/PM. Don't worry about answering my questions if you don't have the time, it's not really the place for A/PM so much anymore and my opinion doesn't mean much anyway -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 14:28, 30 March 2011 (BST)
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| :::::Let me re-read and see if I missed anything… I thought I had more or less answered via another response to someone else, but I may have missed something. That conversation you had with karek was huge, and while ''about'' me at – least in part – not really directed ''at'' me.<br/> The simple answer to “why do you need the buttons?” is basically “there is stuff I can do easily to improve the place using the admin bit which no current sysops seem to know how to do”. There is more to administrator than buttons, you know. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 01:09, 31 March 2011 (BST)
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| == The Rules ==
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| Knew there was a template for that, just couldn't recall it for the life of me. Thanks. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 08:42, 3 April 2011 (BST)
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| :Np. They're all over the place with various colours and styles if you can remember where to look. I usually just go on old policy discussions -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 09:21, 3 April 2011 (BST)
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| :Now that I think of it the Tommy Gun page would probably have been a good place to look too. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 11:20, 3 April 2011 (BST)
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| == Warning? ==
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| Can I have mine struck please? I asked a while back and got no joy.... its been a bloody long time now and i must have made the 250 edits. --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 20:22, 8 April 2011 (BST)
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| :[[A/DE|Hi]].--[[Image:Cat Pic.png|14px]] [[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 21:45, 8 April 2011 (BST)
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| ::Pretty sure they have to go through A/DE now? -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 01:20, 9 April 2011 (BST)
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| :::OK, when did that happen tho? --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 16:25, 9 April 2011 (BST)
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| ::::When A/DE was created as per the Better Vandal Data policy. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 01:33, 10 April 2011 (BST)
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| == A/DE ==
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| Saying I wasn't there so I won't take sides doesn't make it true. Your whole description is worded to basically tell voters that Amazing was unfairly banned with no reference to the case/s what so ever. Makes me wonder if you've actually ever read them or if there was ''any'' intent to actually try and have an informed vote on the reasons he was banned at and past perma. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 21:34, 8 April 2011 (BST)
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| :I didn't bother because I'd feel like a broken record repeating stuff that was so heavily documented and discussed in the policy discussion, as mentioned in the appeal header. As for the way I worded it, I simply mentioned the largest rationale people had towards getting him unbanned, other than that they just wanted him back for the lols or because he wanted it. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 01:17, 9 April 2011 (BST)
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| == Suburb danger maps ==
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| Hi DDR,
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| Would you have any issue with me reverting all the recently "rescouted" southern 'burbs until the current statuses can be confirmed? [[User:Gordon|Gordon]] 14:44, 9 April 2011 (BST)
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| :Yes, but only because for the most part, he isn't wrong. Revert the ones you know are wrong first. See more at A/VB discussion -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 14:45, 9 April 2011 (BST)
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| ==this is getting on my nerves==
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| [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Special:Recentchanges this] and [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Special:Contributions/Bankschroef this]
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| these pictures are boarding on offensive. i mean i understand loading them up for satire or parody, but whats the point of these really? what does this page have to with a zombie apocalypse? --<small> <span style="color: DarkMagenta">The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking </span><div style="display: inline-block; height: 14px; width: 18px; overflow: hidden; vertical-align: text-bottom;">[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="position: absolute; display: block; font-size: 0px; height: 14px; width: 18px;"> </span>]][[Image:Boobs.sh.siggie.gif|18px]]</div> [[User talk:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">bitch</span>]] 15:33 9 April 2011 (UTC)</small>
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| :i really don't think the udwiki should be a place where you post out of game politics and hate speech. if it has some context to the game of UD than fine.. but this is just nazi propaganda whats the policy on this? if the server was in Germany keven would be going to jail. --<small> <span style="color: DarkMagenta">The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking </span><div style="display: inline-block; height: 14px; width: 18px; overflow: hidden; vertical-align: text-bottom;">[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="position: absolute; display: block; font-size: 0px; height: 14px; width: 18px;"> </span>]][[Image:Boobs.sh.siggie.gif|18px]]</div> [[User talk:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">bitch</span>]] 15:43 9 April 2011 (UTC)</small>
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| ::These are shock images yes. While we don't have a policy on these you can bring them up at deletions or, ''maybe'' A/VB though the former choice seems better. If it would be deleted, then only on grounds of offensiveness. The argument that the images have nothing to do with urbandead, while true, also goes for about 90% of the stuff uploaded over the years so that point is pretty moot.
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| ::On an unrelated note, you should not be complaining about these if, like you said, you really intend to unban Cornhole through a permaban-appeal. Kinda a conflict of interests you have there. --[[Image:Cat Pic.png|14px]] [[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 16:15, 9 April 2011 (BST)
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| :::Current opinion is still that Bankschroef is a different person than Corn. (At least, no one has brought up contrary evidence since the last A/VB case.) As little as we can escalate the former for the actions of the latter, we can't put blame on Corn for vandalism that is committed by Bankschroef. - Oh, and as for German law, the swastika pics alone would be more than sufficient to be considered as penal crime. Sadly(?) we are bound to British law. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 16:26, 9 April 2011 (BST)
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| ::::I'm not saying that Bankschroef = Cornhole, I'm merely comparing them: their pattern of actions is pretty much the same. --[[Image:Cat Pic.png|14px]] [[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 16:30, 9 April 2011 (BST)
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| :::::As for any law it's not really relevant. We actually have specific things we need to comply with that would allow the deletion of these images or pages but, right now, just vote on the deletions vote I put up and speedy these when it's done. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 20:14, 9 April 2011 (BST)
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| ::::::thad you really have no idea when I'm joking do you?--<small> <span style="color: DarkMagenta">The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking </span><div style="display: inline-block; height: 14px; width: 18px; overflow: hidden; vertical-align: text-bottom;">[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="position: absolute; display: block; font-size: 0px; height: 14px; width: 18px;"> </span>]][[Image:Boobs.sh.siggie.gif|18px]]</div> [[User talk:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">bitch</span>]] 23:10 9 April 2011 (UTC)</small>
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| == Image ==
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| On what grounds did you delete that image from Wotan's Temple? --[[Image:Cat Pic.png|14px]] [[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 11:34, 10 April 2011 (BST)
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| :Speedy deletion, see [[A/D#Recent Actions]] -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 11:37, 10 April 2011 (BST)
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| ::Fuck, that shouldn't have happened. I agree that Karek shouldn't have altered the page midway through deletion but technically it was altered the moment that image got deleted. Image should have been kept until a decision was made about Wotan's Templar. I'm not blaming anyone in particular but we have a nice mess on our hands now. --[[Image:Cat Pic.png|14px]] [[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 11:44, 10 April 2011 (BST)
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| :::Hardly. Can't fight the masses, even if they do make one rule for every shock group/nazi group and another rule for the only one that actually succeeds in getting a reaction out of them.
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| :::However, my rationale is that it was most probably the only thing that should have been removed on that page, as well as the link Karek removed himself (and will now earn Bschoff a vandalism slap). I was actually really confident 12 hours ago that the community would be consistent when dealing with offensive troll pages but it looks like it's not the case. That was an oversight on my part and my fault, sorry, however since Karek changed the page back to the decent version (which I totally agree with BTW, only don't agree that he did it halfway through a deletion) it's become a non-issue, no one besides Rev I think voted on the page while it was in the state it was when it was the ''pre''-Karek reverting, but without said image, if you get my drift (sorry, v tired tonight) -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 11:49, 10 April 2011 (BST)
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| :::::Eh, okay. Now hush, of to bed with you Charlie. UDwiki isn't worth the loss of sleep ;) --[[Image:Cat Pic.png|14px]] [[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 11:56, 10 April 2011 (BST)
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| ::::::Lol. I'm doing assignments, so UDWiki is the unfortunate host of my 5 minute break every half hour or so until I finish and/or faint -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 11:58, 10 April 2011 (BST)
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| :::::::Ah, you're pulling an all-nighter. Nothing beats working on belated schoolwork till the wee hours of the night. Yeah, I've been there. Good luck bro. --[[Image:Cat Pic.png|14px]] [[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 12:04, 10 April 2011 (BST)
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| ::::::::Oh, and remember; powernaps are your friend, just don't 'nap too long or you'll enter a deep (REM) sleep.--[[Image:Cat Pic.png|14px]] [[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 12:15, 10 April 2011 (BST)
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| :::::::::It's probably less about acting consistent, and more about showing that no one likes Corn and his nazi zerg circus. Don't think it will do anything even if the deletion gets through (which it probably will). Even if it gets deleted, Bank can always pull a 82nd Airborne and create a new group called "Totenkopf-SS", and when that gets deleted he can create one called "Buttmolio's Bald Bleasure Boy Bridgade", and so on and so on until he or the community gets fed up. In fact, that has already happened looking at NSU and Combat 18. The only way to really put a stop on him is the vandal escalation system, and for that, we need to catch him breaking the rules. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 14:42, 10 April 2011 (BST)
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| ::::::::::Oh we find plenty of rules to bend so the nazis manages to break them. Under your hypothesis (which will probably be true) I foresee escalations going his way simply for making the groups. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 14:54, 10 April 2011 (BST)
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| :::::::::::Maybe when the new group creation spam gets really excessive. But as long as torches and pitchforks get handed out and someone is willing to lead the peasant's assault on the castle of the mad count, he'd have no other means to keep us his right to have some sort of group page. Unless the goal is to bully him away (which is something I could get behind), this would better be resolved by arbies to get him to tone down his group page a bit. (Which would also make it much easier to get him escalated when he steps over the line agreed by arbies.) --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 15:21, 10 April 2011 (BST)
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| ::::::::::::See that would be the best route, as it wouldn't be as easily abused by masses who just want to throw him out on his arse because he's doing his job properly- annoying people -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 15:38, 10 April 2011 (BST)
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| :::::::::::::So a few things to point out. <br><br>1) This isn't an edit conflict and historically arbies is ''always'' abused. <br><br>2) You don't arbies with someone who obviously won't be present to be involved. <br><br>3)You're making a fit over something that's not actually an issue, as I pointed out the vote is on the page, revision history, usage, existence and all. Just because something is a documented zerg group doesn't mean we document it on the wiki and when the page owner is banned and the person editing the page is a suspected alt it's generally something we should at least discuss deleting, especially when it's purpose is trolling the wiki.<br><br>4) I'll strike my vote today if you guys all stop acting 'tarded trying to figure out how you can delete a relevant and realistic vote because ''I'' undid vandalism and also happened to be the only user who took the time to create the A/D request other people wanted as a solution to ''their'' issue. I don't actually care what happens to the page, I put it up for a vote because other people were concerned about the validity of the page's existence and purpose and ''that's just what you do when trying to be helpful.'' I undid the vandalism revision of the page ''for the same reason'', you guys aren't willing to act because you're all too busy worrying about the smallest things to deal with the nonsense the way you obviously should have to start with.<br><br>It should also be noted that you're comparing this group page's right to exist to groups that weren't created by vandals and being used to vandalize by the group members. Please please please tell me you guys have the common sense to understand why this is closer to the group I linked in the deletion vote than what you're citing because I'm seriously worried for this place if as sysops you can't. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 23:41, 10 April 2011 (BST)
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| ::::::::::::::Oh yeah, one other thing. Delete the revision with the link I removed, that's what you were supposed to do in regards to that case and it's something that, while it exists in the history, still validates the votes. Part of the vote you're complaining about is because the vote would get around you guys not doing ''your job''. Please either step up or get out of the way and do it the right way. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 23:41, 10 April 2011 (BST)
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| :::::::::::::::I've already left this alone, don't know why you're dragging me back into an argument about it. Deleting single contributions is only usually done on this wiki in serious matters pertaining to either IP, IRL (personal info) or copyright. Other instances where it's asked for is considered draconian (which is literally the word that's described the request every time). Without trying to push this on, I have to say it: trying to tell me otherwise will only validate my QQing about "one rule for everyone, another for nazis" that I seem to cry about a lot atm. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 14:17, 11 April 2011 (BST)
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| ::::::::::::::::In fact, I have removed the revisions that still contain the link, on the grounds that it is not just vandalism, but also a potential violation of TOS. Feel free to misconduct me.<br>As for Karek, I still think that A/D is the wrong route to stop the nazis. They will just go gypsy and squat on another name, until they get driven away once more. However, I'm not above the wiki law. If the majority thinks that WT should be deleted, and does so by the proper channel, the request has to be carried out, even if I personally both disagree with the stance and think that it is the wrong way to deal with the issue. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 14:29, 11 April 2011 (BST)
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| :::::::::::::::::Sorry I hadn't considered that as an option this case (by copyright I actually meant TOS too but had completely overlooked the potential TOS issues that could arise from that, silly me), so you did the right thing. Deleting vandal contributions individually on a whim though is wrong. Not sure if thats what karek was asserting, probably wasn't now the TOU aspect is brought into context. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 15:08, 11 April 2011 (BST)
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| ::::::::::::::::::Actually it really was. The vote was put up because certain users had obviously wanted something like this put up and there was actually relevant precedent of doing this in the past. I've been harping on you guys because of the mindset even having the above discussion shows about how little you guys understand the A/D process ''and'' the fact that the ToS violating revision hadn't been deleted sooner as part of ruling on the A/VB case related that's been all but concluded for a while now. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 16:46, 11 April 2011 (BST)
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| :::::::::::::::::::"Harping on you guys" = paining me about it -.- And we understand about the A/D process thanks, every decent precedent and culture of consistency is being thrown out the door on a daily basis by the community regarding these nazia, so I don't think it's the few of us who doesn't understand processes. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 03:28, 12 April 2011 (BST)
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| ::::::::::::::::::::Just because both pages have swastikas or refer to something involving dead people doesn't make them the same or even close. Nor does fixing a page so it is useful if kept during a vote make the vote any less valid when revisions aren't time sensitive. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 03:58, 12 April 2011 (BST)
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| :::::::::::::::::::::That wasn't what I was talking about. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 04:21, 12 April 2011 (BST)
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| ::::::::::::::::::::::You were the one that said it was about nazism to claim precedent being ignored. Forgive the confusion caused by differences between what you mean and what you say. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 05:16, 12 April 2011 (BST)
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| :::::::::::::::::::::::Sorry I don't forgive you since you aren't the person most of this was aimed at so it wasn't really your business to butt in and try to understand anyway... -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 06:31, 12 April 2011 (BST)
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| ::::::::::::::::::::::::If you don't want people jumping into your conversation, I hear there's a new-fangled invention called ''email'' you may want to look into. {{tongue}} {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 07:41, 12 April 2011 (BST)
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| :::::::::::::::::::::::::Lol! Jumping in isn't the part that bothered me, dw. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 09:03, 12 April 2011 (BST)
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| ::::::::::::::::::::::::::When you're talking about my actions I tend to feel it's appropriate for me to explain why I did them [[A/VB|to avoid confusion]] that has happened to me frequently before. In this case I felt someone had to have a word about this remove or ignore the vote nonsense. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 02:39, 13 April 2011 (BST)
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| == Ghosts ==
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| I put your ghost page resources up in A/MR for movement to more appropriate namespaces. It seemed like a better solution than writing new resources and since you were already using them as primary documents it just seemed right. Hopefully this won't be a problem for you. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 00:02, 11 April 2011 (BST)
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| :Absolutely not, much better idea. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 05:03, 11 April 2011 (BST)
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| == thanks ==
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| Hi - didn't realise it was a problem. Thanks for fixing it! {{unsigned|Betamaxx}}
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| :No proobs bru -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 14:07, 11 April 2011 (BST)
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| == I lol'd ==
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| At [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Deletions&diff=next&oldid=1870185 this edit summary]. {{lol}} {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 00:37, 13 April 2011 (BST)
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| :LOL i like making people lol -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 04:28, 13 April 2011 (BST)
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| == What is the deal ==
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| With airline food… uh… [[UDWiki:Administration/Undeletions#Template:M.2FVB Intro|this]]? {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 22:43, 15 April 2011 (BST)
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| :[[UDWiki:Administration/Speedy_Deletions/Archive/2011_04#Template:M.2FVB_Intro|This one]], I suppose. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 22:50, 15 April 2011 (BST)
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| ::Danke. Whoops! Looks like nobody checked for inclusions… {{rolleyes}} {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 22:53, 15 April 2011 (BST)
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| :::Zilly me and zilly karek -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 03:54, 16 April 2011 (BST)
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| == list o arbies ==
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| i did the right thing right? i changed his name to keep with the formatting and what not.. good faith and what not.. blech --<small><div style="display: inline-block; height: 14px; width: 18px; overflow: hidden; vertical-align: text-bottom;">[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="position: absolute; display: block; font-size: 0px; height: 14px; width: 18px;"> </span>]][[Image:Boobs.sh.siggie.gif|18px]]</div> [[User talk:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">bitch</span>]] 04:10 19 April 2011 (UTC) </small>
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| :ye -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 05:04, 19 April 2011 (BST) | |
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| == /Sig ==
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| Please do not vandalize my user page, the precedent is very clear on this. You seem like a cool video game, but if you persist I will have to report you to Wikilaw. --{{User:I_WARNED_YOU_ABOUT_TEMPLATES_BRO/Sig}} 03:56, 20 April 2011 (BST)
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| :I guess you better do that. But my feet are fast and they don't like standing on signatures that break the page -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 03:58, 20 April 2011 (BST)
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| ::I don't know what any of that means --{{User:I_WARNED_YOU_ABOUT_TEMPLATES_BRO/Sig}} 04:04, 20 April 2011 (BST)
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| :::meaning yer sig breaks the page.. just revert it back to the fixed code please. someone fixing your sig or any code you enter in good faith is allowed and encouraged. and DDR is quite the wiki dragon so this should get interesting.. anyone wanna raise the drama level?--<small><div style="display: inline-block; height: 14px; width: 18px; overflow: hidden; vertical-align: text-bottom;">[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="position: absolute; display: block; font-size: 0px; height: 14px; width: 18px;"> </span>]][[Image:Boobs.sh.siggie.gif|18px]]</div> [[User talk:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">bitch</span>]] 04:07 20 April 2011 (UTC) </small>
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| ::::wikidragon more like {{WIKILAW}} {{User:Nubis/sig}} 04:10, 20 April 2011 (BST)
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