Talk:Discosaurs/Rage in the Age

Archived conversations made before the start of RITA are located at the archive. A write-up of the event can be found here.

THE GAMES HAVE BEGUN --Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 01:00, 3 October 2010 (BST)

Kills

Kills go below here.

1. First blood to RDD. 01:08, 3 October 2010 (BST)

   Seconds before Natasha and the rest of the allstars declared war on the Discosaurs.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 01:12, 3 October 2010 (BST)

   Judging by time stamps I'm not so sure. First reported kill maybe but not necessarily the first actual kill.--ZIPO/Talk/◆◆◆/CAPD 01:36, 3 October 2010 (BST)

   Have you met these guys? 01:41, 3 October 2010 (BST)

   Those guys are crazy. Good solid strikes. as for first kill, it really doesnt matter. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 01:46, 3 October 2010 (BST)

   I suppose you could say that I met them. Saw a few of them on the way here to.--ZIPO/Talk/◆◆◆/CAPD 01:57, 3 October 2010 (BST)

2. Axe gets Timmy --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 01:14, 3 October 2010 (BST)
3. Kempy gets Bravo --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 01:14, 3 October 2010 (BST)
4. Tash gets Funkiraptor --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 01:14, 3 October 2010 (BST)
5. Zipo gets Noir Although first blood goes to RDD, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th, and 6th blood goes to the allstars. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 01:18, 3 October 2010 (BST)

   I'm still proud of my daring escape from one of the most horrific massacres in Manhunt history.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 01:20, 3 October 2010 (BST)

   I stand corrected.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 01:21, 3 October 2010 (BST)

   Oh SNAP! ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |

    

   01:24, 3 October 2010 (BST)

6. Tash kills Rexy --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 01:23, 3 October 2010 (BST)

   Nothing Like Getting Killed, revived and claiming two victims in the same ten minutes. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 01:25, 3 October 2010 (BST)

   Right, I need to go to sleep. Can people update the front page on their own? I'll do the talk page table, seeing as that's really for my reference.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 01:29, 3 October 2010 (BST)

7. WU TANG AINT NOTHIN 2 FUK WIT -- LEMON #1 01:55, 3 October 2010 (BST)

   The event should just end like right now. I mean, let's face it. The All-Stars are pwning everyone, and very early in the game too. ;D --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 01:59, 3 October 2010 (BST)

   Well, crud! We were sure this thing started tomorrow night. Over here, it's still October 2. But hang on.... everyone will be awake shortly and then we'll see who does the major pwnage regardless of who drew first blood.  ;) Petite Fille 04:03, 3 October 2010 (BST)

8. Baron gets Bravo --schweinhund 03:06, 3 October 2010 (GMT)

   Quick question, is everyone supposed to have their group in their profile because some don't or have an incorrect one listed. --schweinhund 04:00, 3 October 2010 (GMT)

   Well, everyone was originally suppose to list their group so to not cause confusion with the folks at RG, but I've submited the below list to them already, so I think it's safe to say, we don't necessarily need to list it now. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 05:07, 3 October 2010 (BST)

   Seeing how certain groups (MHAS and DS in particular) are made up of mis-match members of other groups, we shouldn't force them to change group tags.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 12:01, 3 October 2010 (BST)

   It makes no difference to me whether the others are wearing the same tag or not since the other teams are contact-listed now but I'd like to point out that we're also made up of mismatched members too. Out of a seven member team, we were wearing five different group tags before this manhunt began. However, if I'd known this deal about group tags wouldn't be a rule-breaker sooner, I never would have dropped my Feral Undead tag. This is the first time I've not worn my FU tag since I put it on in May, 2007, and I feel a little naked without it. But hey, it's only for two weeks, right? Petite Fille 12:57, 3 October 2010 (BST)

   Pop the tag in your profile somewhere, the rules don't state it has to be in the Group section. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 12:58, 3 October 2010 (BST)

   I didn't mention you guys because you're all wearing the right tags. :p But seriously, we have a list, so wear whatever.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 12:59, 3 October 2010 (BST)

9. Darma gives disco a +1 Kill--^TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 17:06, 3 October 2010 (BST)
10. Massive Bereavement, today was your day [1] --Jess Noir 19:45, 3 October 2010 (BST)
11. Teralynn gets ZIPO3956 Kill Symbiote spiderman14 21:43, 3 October 2010 (BST)
12. Hell's Belles started their day with Ensin Panther -- Spiderzed▋ 21:52, 3 October 2010 (BST)
13. I was going for that Haircuts fellow but I had to settle for a sleeping Vinetown Scout *sigh* Next time, Haircuts, next time! *shakes fist!* Petite Fille 21:59, 3 October 2010 (BST)

    Finally. I was wondering why you didnt post this 4 hours ago, when you killed me. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 22:06, 3 October 2010 (BST)

    Because everytime I tried to post, someone posted ahead of me and it would kick me out or the post ended up in the wrong place - below the Start header. If it hadn't worked the last time, I was going to give up and take a nap. Petite Fille 22:26, 3 October 2010 (BST)

14. T1MMY TH3 TR3NCH13 G3TZ ASS H@ 3R AX3 HACK LMFAO!!!! - J3ZUS ST1LL LUVZ U LOL BUT UR D3D!!!!! Timmy the Trenchie 00:37, 4 October 2010 (BST)

    OK, so between me and you, it's 1-1. Vengeance shall be mine, Timmy. Vengeance. Shall. Be. Mine. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 00:40, 4 October 2010 (BST)

15. Zipo finishes Julian--ZIPO/Talk/◆◆◆/CAPD 00:39, 4 October 2010 (BST)
16. Soph gets Hell's Belles --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 01:33, 4 October 2010 (BST)

    I'm not sure who's supposed to be managing the scoreboard but I updated it up to this point for reference. --schweinhund 02:16, 4 October 2010 (GMT)

    I already had. I think you miss read it was Soph getting Bell not the other way around.--ZIPO/Talk/◆◆◆/CAPD 02:30, 4 October 2010 (BST)

    Never mind I see someone didn't update a different kill.--ZIPO/Talk/◆◆◆/CAPD 02:33, 4 October 2010 (BST)

17. Baron gets Bravo a second time! --schweinhund 04:07, 4 October 2010 (GMT)
18. Darma gets Sophie Ames --Darma 11:49, 4 October 2010 (BST)

Manhunt Participants (for reference)

Contestant	Group	Number of Kills	Number of Deaths	Overall Score
A Tyrranosaurus	Discosaurs	0	2	-2
Bravo Seven	Discosaurs	0	3	-3
Funkiraptor	Discosaurs	0	1	-1
Kegosaurus	Discosaurs	0	0	0
Mad Hlaine Larkin	Discosaurs	1	0	1
Philosiraptor	Discosaurs	0	0	0
Pravus	Discosaurs	0	0	0
Tricerohops	Discosaurs	0	0	0
Axe Hack	Manhunt All-Stars	1	1	0
DanceDanceRevolution	Manhunt All-Stars	1	0	1
KempyClassic	Manhunt All-Stars	1	0	1
Massive Bereavement	Manhunt All-Stars	0	1	-1
Natasha Fatale	Manhunt All-Stars	2	1	1
Sophie Ames	Manhunt All-Stars	1	1	0
vinetown scout	Manhunt All-Stars	0	1	-1
ZIPO3956	Manhunt All-Stars	2	1	1
Ensin Panther	RDD	0	1	-1
Haircuts That Kill	RDD	1	0	1
Julian Linair	RDD	0	1	-1
Skull Grin	RDD	0	0	0
Teralynn	RDD	1	0	1
Karloth vois	The Team Formerally Known as Karloth Vois	0	0	0
Baron Underbheit	Timmy the Trenchie's Twist and Shout Band	2	0	2
Darma	Timmy the Trenchie's Twist and Shout Band	1	1	0
Hell's Belles	Timmy the Trenchie's Twist and Shout Band	1	1	0
Jess Noir	Timmy the Trenchie's Twist and Shout Band	1	1	0
petite fille	Timmy the Trenchie's Twist and Shout Band	1	0	1
suvaloo	Timmy the Trenchie's Twist and Shout Band	0	0	0
Timmy the Trenchie	Timmy the Trenchie's Twist and Shout Band	1	1	0

Query

Just recieved a message abotu somebody trying to join DS. Shall we use the AHMH policy of people joining late acting as -1 kill for every 3 days late you are? Or shall we ban new members? Everybody register opinions now!--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 16:29, 3 October 2010 (BST)

Late = -1, which will of course damage your overall group score. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 16:33, 3 October 2010 (BST)

If it was one of your already named members who's just turning up late, then it's ok far as I'm concerned. If not, and it's someone new wishing to join, then yeah, -1. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |

 

16:57, 3 October 2010 (BST)

Yeah, it's somebody new. The above team members may well disappear from the list.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 18:16, 3 October 2010 (BST)

I'm not really in favour... When we let Natasha into the third Malton Manhunt, it was like... an hour late. Fair enough, we said, and no-more. But this contest has properly started nearly 18 hours ago and it's bending the rules somewhat out of shape to let them in now. Also, the prescribed penalty is barely a scratch in this 'team' game. Personally, I think we should say no, sorry to whoever it is that wants in, but people have had weeks to prepare... --BOSCH 18:23, 3 October 2010 (BST)

If I recall, the penalty was -1 for every 5 hours in AHMH3. Or something like that. I don't fully recall what I came up with. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 18:49, 3 October 2010 (BST)

It was 1 per 3 days, I checked. Frankly, I'm not bothered either way, and now that we have a point, I'm reluctant to lose it.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 19:09, 3 October 2010 (BST)

Am I meant to update it myself?--^TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 19:15, 3 October 2010 (BST)

The front page one, not the talk page one. The talk one is more meant to be for which group everyone is in.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 19:33, 3 October 2010 (BST)

Quick unrelated notion. Make the scoreboard an actual scoreboard: rank the groups on actual points rather than alphabetically. --Thadeous Oakley 18:38, 3 October 2010 (BST)

Click the button under rank and the table reorders itself. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 18:41, 3 October 2010 (BST)

lolirdumb --Thadeous Oakley 18:55, 3 October 2010 (BST)

Back on the subject of the latecomer, I'm sorry but I can't agree with this either. I'm really not making a big deal about the name tag thing but this would be the second time the rules were bent and the event isn't even 24 hours old. But like Bosch said, everyone has had weeks to decide if they wanted to participate in this. This person can always join the next event and that'll be fair on everyone playing in this manhunt. Petite Fille 19:25, 3 October 2010 (BST)

Yeah, it's cool, I've already told them they can't participate. But the group name thing was never really part of the rules. It was more to help the RG not think we were PKers (which most of us are).--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 19:33, 3 October 2010 (BST)

Aye. Now to stab RG in the back and still claim it's part of the event. xD --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 21:17, 3 October 2010 (BST)

Karl's ranking

Unless you want to add in some clause about not having made any kills or whatever, 0 is still a higher score than any negative number. Plus I find it hilarious that Karl could easily come not-last without even doing anything. 15:31, 4 October 2010 (BST)

But it's done by kills, as it always has been?--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 15:32, 4 October 2010 (BST)

Then why have an 'overall score' if it's just done on kills? 15:33, 4 October 2010 (BST)

I believe it's left from Poodle's table, and he had some stupid scoring system.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 15:46, 4 October 2010 (BST)

It could be changed to "Kill Differential" to avoid any confusion. -MHSstaff 16:03, 4 October 2010 (BST)

So kills suffered don't subtract from your score? Remove the overal score heading if that's the case, as it would suggest that kills are minus points. 16:05, 4 October 2010 (BST)

Wait a minute, here. Your rules state, "Each person's death shall negate one point for their team.". Now either they do or don't result in a point taken from your team, but I certainly was under the impression that they do count against you. Which is it? --Darma ^talk 16:40, 4 October 2010 (BST)

Darma's right. The rules on the page state that kills suffered subtract points, there's no reason to change it now that the event has started. 16:46, 4 October 2010 (BST)

Not to mention that if it is based on kills only that changes everything. Had we known that, our team would have tried to get the maximum number of team members to start instead of settling for just 7. It is inherently unfair to smaller teams to base the score on kills only. --Darma ^talk 16:50, 4 October 2010 (BST)

It has ALWAYS been based on kills. Nobody is changing any rules halfway through.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 17:10, 4 October 2010 (BST)

And if you're both honestly unable to read the next line which says that the most kills wins, then that isn't anything to do with me.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 17:11, 4 October 2010 (BST)

"Each person's death shall negate one point for their team. The most kills shall determine the score", to anyone reading, implies explicitly that the most kills, after deaths are subtracted, is the winner. Removing this after the event has started not only impacts smaller teams, but seems suspect given whose team has suffered the most kills... 17:17, 4 October 2010 (BST)

Personally, I've always understood it as "most kills win", with deaths acting as tie-breaker. But yes, we are in the middle of a bona fide case study of "why you should lay out everything clearly right off the bat when you organize a MH". -- Spiderzed▋ 17:22, 4 October 2010 (BST)

So, the fact that your own rules for this event contradict each other has nothing to do with you? Who then, exactly, do we blame for that? Gnomes? Elves? Now, come on! Ok, fine! If you are going to base it on kills alone then I want a weighted average to be used so that all the groups have a fair chance to win this thing! --Darma ^talk 17:20, 4 October 2010 (BST)

That's a fair point, as it is, the larger groups have an advantage. However, I don't really like substracting deaths like this. It encourages window-diving, which is sort of lame. It detracts from the spectactle, too. Maybe any death should count against the team, be it kill or suicide. --Sophie ^{◆◆◆ CAPD} 18:28, 4 October 2010 (BST)

I would have had no issue with this except that, just like Yon's assertion, it would be yet another rule change after this contest has already begun. I'm sorry, but you can't make game-changing rules in the middle of the game and still expect folks to think it is fair! --Darma ^talk 18:36, 4 October 2010 (BST)