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#Bit long, but full of logic <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:37 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>
#Bit long, but full of logic <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:37 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>
#One of the guides that I think contains some useful information and doesn't hurt my head to read. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 07:20, 1 July 2009 (BST)


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This page is for the community review of new guides. This is so the Guides page does not get filled up with nonsensical guides (like it was at one point,) and that their is a minimum standard of quality on the Guides page. Guides which pass this review have a template added to the page ({{GuideReviewed}}). Guides which do not pass a community review will not be added to the Guides page, but may still carry [[Category:Guides]]. This is so that guides that are deemed good and worthy by the community are easily findable by newer players, while less accurate guides can still be found, but aren't presented as prominently.

Guides are reviewed through a voting process. There are three eligible votes:

  • Support - to indicate support for the guide's inclusion on the page
  • Abstain - to not formally vote, but still offer input on the discussion
  • Against - to indicate disapproval for the guide's incusion on the page

After one week, the votes will be tallied.

  • A guide which has more the 75% Support will be placed at a "Featured Guides" section at the top of the guides page
  • A guide which has more then 50% Support will be placed on the page, in the appropriate section (survivor, zombie, or player killer.)
  • A guide which has less then 50% Support will not be placed on the page
  • Guides which don't attract any votes will not be placed on the page

General criteria which should be considered before a guide is included on the page are:

  1. Formatting - There must be no obvious formatting errors in the text. The guide must work in all major browsers
  2. Accuracy - The guide must be accurate
  3. Clarity - The guide must be easy to read, with no obvious spelling or grammar errors.

Please note that neutrality and civility are not requirements.

Voting

Please add {{Guidesvoting}} on the guide before nominating it. Please inform the author if they are still active and can easily be found.

Hiding In Plain Sight

Think outside the barricade. --WanYao 07:47, 30 June 2009 (BST)

For

  1. Sgood.--xoxo 09:18, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  2. Bit long, but full of logic -- boxy talkteh rulz 12:37 30 June 2009 (BST)
  3. One of the guides that I think contains some useful information and doesn't hurt my head to read. --Maverick Talk - OBR Praise Knowledge! 404 07:20, 1 July 2009 (BST)


Against

  1. Way to long for something that is just 'Hide in ruins and then after that, use common sense'. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 09:30, 30 June 2009 (BST)
    Italics would have been more appropriate.--xoxo 12:04, 30 June 2009 (BST)
    Part of the reason it's long is because when I wrote it, there was a lot of opposition to the concept. People said it was madness, suicide -- or worse. Most were scared to give it a try. People were asking for detailed instructions... It had to be very detailed to get people to try it, to overcome their resistance. That, and the fact that I like to hear myself talk, of course... :) --WanYao 13:12, 30 June 2009 (BST)
    All i said was that italics would have been more appropriate, and it wasn't even directed at you. That response is entirely nonsensical and has left me very, very confused. If you remove a colon after i have made this post it will be vandalism as per precedent. --xoxo 13:24, 30 June 2009 (BST)
    Go back to making crop circles, you discombobulated marsupial, you. --WanYao 13:38, 30 June 2009 (BST)
    Just remember that you come to me for formatting help >=] DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 13:54, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  2. Well written but Rat Tactics manages to say more in fewer words. --GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 21:11, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  3. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 07:20, 1 July 2009 (BST)

Rat Tactics

Quick, dirty, effective. --WanYao 07:47, 30 June 2009 (BST)

For

  1. --WanYao 07:50, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  2. I don't think it's featured guide worthy, but I can easily vouch for its goodness. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 09:31, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  3. But why are those alliance/group categories on the page? -- boxy talkteh rulz 12:35 30 June 2009 (BST)
    Because it was written by and to a degree for Octapopers and they are part of the SW Alliance? --WanYao 13:13, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  4. It's clear and to the point. Charming and relevant to survivors when a horde rolls through the suburb. Could use an update about hiding in darkened buildings. --GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 21:16, 30 June 2009 (BST)

Against

  1. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 07:19, 1 July 2009 (BST)

Amusing Locations in Malton/Urban Dead Colloquialisms

Guide relating to some Urban Dead - related slang.

For

  1. - The only useful thing gaylim's ever made ;) DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:28, 29 June 2009 (BST)
    I'll point you in the direction of this guide.--Nallan (Talk) 10:09, 30 June 2009 (BST)
    You didn't write that, I could tell cause theres no ugly ALIM bar on the top. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 10:34, 30 June 2009 (BST)
    Then it's doing its job nicely.--Nallan (Talk) 10:55, 30 June 2009 (BST)
    I actually have absolutely no idea about what you mean here. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 11:01, 30 June 2009 (BST)
    Oh sorry I was talking about how effective the ALiM navbar is at illustrating whether or not a page has been or is a project of my group. Pages that bear the navbar are more than likely 2 Cool projects whilst pages not bearing the navbar are more than likely not.--Nallan (Talk) 11:33, 30 June 2009 (BST)
    kkk DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 11:39, 30 June 2009 (BST)
    Also he was telling you to keep a civil tongue. ALiM created you, it can just as easily destroy you.--xoxo 12:16, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  2. As above Linkthewindow  Talk  07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  3. - The sheer size and detail of this article should be merit enough. Also it's funny. --GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 17:02, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  4. As Giles. --D.E.ATalk 17:07, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  5. - Funny, useful, it's good.-- Adward  18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  6. - As above. --Private Mark 00:55, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  7. I'm fond of this one.--Nallan (Talk) 11:33, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  8. Pity it got put in a group subpage location, and was defaced with the irrelevant ALiM "definition" and eyesore of a navbar -- boxy talkteh rulz 12:33 30 June 2009 (BST)
    That definition was substantially reduced following a scruple with bobby. It used to be a synonym for cool, for some it still is.--xoxo 12:37, 30 June 2009 (BST)

Against

  1. Incomplete. Amend it and I'll vote keep --WanYao 07:42, 30 June 2009 (BST)
    I'm intrigued, what do you think it needs more of? --xoxo 09:17, 30 June 2009 (BST)
    More T&A! ... erm ... letters, acronyms and jargon. --WanYao 13:18, 30 June 2009 (BST)
    Time and attendance? --xoxo 13:22, 30 June 2009 (BST)

Amusing Locations in Malton/Urban Dead Colloquialisms/Suburb Nicknames

As above

For

  1. 'Be a local anywhere in Malton'™ --xoxo 13:14, 29 June 2009 (BST)

Against

  1. Useless as a guide. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:29, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  2. Funny, but not a guide. Linkthewindow  Talk  07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  3. Anal sex --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 14:45, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  4. I'm voting against because the Amusing Locations in Malton/Urban Dead Colloquialisms is a more useful starting page and the template includes links to all the other relevant information. --GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 17:31, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  5. It's a wee bit useless as a guide.-- Adward  18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  6. Awesome, but not a guide. --WanYao 07:43, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  7. Not amused.--Bonghit420 09:34, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  8. Limited real information... or humor, value -- boxy talkteh rulz 12:31 30 June 2009 (BST)
    but its got the naavbaaarrrrr......--xoxo 13:26, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  9. As WanYao--Orange Talk 23:16, 30 June 2009 (BST)

Guides:First Day in Malton

Collection of information that's relevant to newer players

For

  1. - It's a GA, enough said. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:27, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  2. Linkthewindow  Talk  07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  3. One of the better gameplay guides out there. It was useful to me when starting out. --GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 17:05, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  4. - Excellent guide, recommended.-- Adward  18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  5. - But of course. --Private Mark 00:56, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  6. - Short, sweet and not dated. --WanYao 07:28, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  7. - Very helpful. --D.E.ATalk 12:01, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  8. Now this is a beginners guide -- boxy talkteh rulz 12:27 30 June 2009 (BST)
  9. - It was very helpful to me once and I regularly recommend it to new players. Jimaine Dunwich 16:47, 30 June 2009 (BST)

Against

  1. but it is nice if you want to use it.--Bonghit420 18:13, 29 June 2009 (BST)
    Hence its usefulness as a guide, people that need help look for it and find it here. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 16:55, 30 June 2009 (BST)

Guides:A Beginners Guide to Urban Dead

As above

For

  1. It's a detailed guide but it has become dated (doesn't include any information about ruin). Also it should be renamed "A Beginning Survivor's Guide to Urban Dead". With a few small changes it would be totally boss. --GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 17:09, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  2. As Giles - It's a bit outdated, but with some touching up should be great. It just needs some updating. Besides that, it's fine.-- Adward  18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  3. Good guide, but yeah, could do with some updating. --D.E.ATalk 12:03, 30 June 2009 (BST)

Against

  1. I say make an entirely new one. --Haliman - Talk 02:30, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  2. Appears to be kind of a compilation of the various wiki entries. Offers no real insight into playing that isn't found elsewhere. --WanYao 07:30, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  3. Far too long, invoking the TL;DR syndrome in newbs. Most of it looks like straight cut'n'pastes from other pages. The effort needs to be put in tailoring this info so that the main points are explained with links to the in depth look at each section that are already elsewhere on the wiki -- boxy talkteh rulz 12:24 30 June 2009 (BST)
  4. It's a nice portal for all the newbie info, but for that reason, it is daunting and I expect noobs to be able to just search for this info themselves (the parts they specifically want, anyway). DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:38, 30 June 2009 (BST)

Guides:So you're on the wrong side

Relating to changing sides (ie: getting a revive, or window diving.)

For

  1. Sure, it's short, but it covers an aspect which new players will want to find help on quickly, so it gets a For from me.-- Adward  18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  2. As Drawde --WanYao 07:31, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  3. I do like this, it's straight to the point and accurately covers necessary steps to achieve the desired goal. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 08:51, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  4. Needs to be said -- boxy talkteh rulz 12:20 30 June 2009 (BST)

Against

  1. Useful but it's so short it feels like it should be an addendum or subsection of a more extensive guides above, such as "first day in malton". Maybe this could be included in another guide.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 17:12, 29 June 2009 (BST)

Abstain

  1. Throw this info into the newbies guide to malton and the playing as a zombie guide. Or keep it, i'm not that fussed.--xoxo 17:22, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  2. --Bonghit420 17:56, 29 June 2009 (BST)
    loooooooooooooooooooooooool.--xoxo 18:02, 29 June 2009 (BST)
    haha, i ment to put against but whatever.--Bonghit420 18:08, 29 June 2009 (BST)
    s'all good. --xoxo 18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)

Guides:Beyond average damage

Guide relating to thinking about combat more tactically

For

  1. Introduces and explains some useful ideas. As an older guide it doesn't include information on darkened buildings or the flare gun/fuel can combo attack. Nothing a little updated section can't fix. --GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 17:18, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  2. Excellent for basic combat, just needs slight updating.-- Adward  18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  3. As above --WanYao 07:32, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  4. Needs an update but it's a well researched and written guide.--Nallan (Talk) 11:42, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  5. I found it useful as a newb -- boxy talkteh rulz 12:19 30 June 2009 (BST)

Against

Making a Successful group

Guide relating to diplomacy and making a group

For

Against

  1. --Bonghit420 09:45, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  2. It's ironic because the person who made it never made a successful group. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 14:47, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  3. that guide is fucking awful. Not 2 Cool at all.--xoxo 15:16, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  4. Like many guides advertised to be for both sides this one really only applies to survivors. And it's not very thorough. --GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 17:20, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  5. No fucking way.-- Adward  18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  6. As my last vote. Make a new guide, and add successful group leader testimonials. --Haliman - Talk 02:32, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  7. Useless --WanYao 07:32, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  8. As Haliman. --D.E.ATalk 12:10, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  9. Worst. Guide. Ever. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:39, 30 June 2009 (BST)
    Yeah. It looks more like a "How to make a successful group in 5 easy steps" program rather than a guide. No wonder it fails. --D.E.ATalk 17:06, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  10. As haliman--Orange Talk 23:17, 30 June 2009 (BST)

Guide: Zoe Gorefest's Guide for The Career PKer

Guide relating to player killing

For

  1. Well - written, and the images complement the guide nicely. Linkthewindow  Talk  07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  2. It could use additional info on darkened buildings (many PKers hide there now) but an overall excellent article. Also I think the Fallout images should be removed. --GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 17:23, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  3. Hell yes-- Adward  18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  4. As Drawde --WanYao 07:33, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  5. As Link. --D.E.ATalk 12:15, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  6. Still relevant, even though it's author is a long time inactive -- boxy talkteh rulz 12:17 30 June 2009 (BST)
  7. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:42, 30 June 2009 (BST)

Against

Guides:Real-Time Fighting

Guide about fighting in real time

For

  1. It had to be addressed somewhere. Again, like all of the old guides there needs to be an update on fighting in darkened buildings, but good nonetheless. --GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 17:36, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  2. Good guide, as Giles.-- Adward  18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  3. As Giles. --Private Mark 00:57, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  4. As above --WanYao 07:34, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  5. Me likey.--Nallan (Talk) 11:42, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  6. Good guide and very useful, especially to the groups out there who prefer using real-time tactics. --D.E.ATalk 12:18, 30 June 2009 (BST)

Against

  1. The only practical reason for a survivor to participate in a R/T fight is when defending a building, and this doesn't cover that, at all. And a zombie in a R/T fight is at a real disadvantage (unless the survivor has something to stay and fight for) because he can't follow inside usually -- boxy talkteh rulz 12:14 30 June 2009 (BST)
  2. Why participate in real-time fighting outside? If you are XPing, then use your AP killing said opponent till you have no AP/HP then go inside. As zombie, stand there attacking. Otherwise, don't do it. Simple. That's my outisde RT fighting guide. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:47, 30 June 2009 (BST)

The right build for you

Guide about character builds

For

  1. Good article. --WanYao 07:35, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  2. I do like this. Simply and to the point. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:52, 30 June 2009 (BST)

Against

  1. This is actually a pretty good article. But the same info is organized in greater detail in Guides:Meta-Careers.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 06:33, 30 June 2009 (BST)
    You are against an article because there is a different guide which you think is better? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:52, 30 June 2009 (BST)
    "You are against an article because there is a different guide (covering the same subject) which you think is better?" Yes. Why feature multiple articles on the same subject laying out the same info over and over again? Choose the best and go with it.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 21:40, 30 June 2009 (BST)
    #New guide. --Haliman - Talk 02:33, 30 June 2009 (BST) - Nevermind. Guides:Meta-Careers --Haliman - Talk 02:35, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  2. Doesn't explain/compare the differences between pure killing, and FAKing up. This isn't giving alternative builds, it's telling you what build this guy thinks is best, a private using firearms (and if you don't choose that, then how to make your choice into a firearm specialist) -- boxy talkteh rulz 12:08 30 June 2009 (BST)

Guide:Siege PKer Guide

Relating to player killing in a siege

For

  1. The QSG has a clue. Linkthewindow  Talk  07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  2. Fresh. Also the "false infection > kill" section is devious. --GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 17:34, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  3. Yep.-- Adward  18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  4. scrap everything else, this is the only one you need.--Bonghit420 18:15, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  5. A classic. Required reading. --WanYao 07:36, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  6. This is the shiz-nit. ----RahrahCome join the #party!08:01, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  7. Good -- boxy talkteh rulz 11:57 30 June 2009 (BST)

Against

Zombie Emergency Management Agency/Urban Dead Guide

Another more general guide

For

Against

  1. The author was a tad clueless, and the guide isn't well - written. Linkthewindow  Talk  07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  2. It contains the same info as Guides:A Beginners Guide to Urban Dead only less detailed. --GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 17:27, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  3. useless --WanYao 07:37, 30 June 2009 (BST)

Civility

Guide about acting nicely towards other people

For

  1. Needed, and a must-read for those who take the game far too seriously. Linkthewindow  Talk  07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  2. Well it's funny, relevant, and it applies to both sides of the game. --GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 17:29, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  3. Will always be relevant.-- Adward  18:11, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  4. Always. --Private Mark 00:57, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  5. As Drawde. --D.E.ATalk 12:13, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  6. Allot of people ought to read it.--Thadeous Oakley 12:16, 30 June 2009 (BST)

Against

  1. Fuck no--Bonghit420 18:16, 29 June 2009 (BST)
    This should be common since. No guide needed for this, just avoid people who act like this.--Bonghit420 18:28, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  2. Meh. I hate being told how express myself in such rigid terms. I also don't agree with many of the examples, anyway --WanYao 07:40, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  3. Some of Malton's most notorious groups lack civility.--xoxo 09:20, 30 June 2009 (BST)
    Me, me, me... -- boxy talkteh rulz 11:50 30 June 2009 (BST)
  4. Not a guide. Civility isn't a necessary part of the game, but a policy that players can either choose to either follow or ignore -- boxy talkteh rulz 11:50 30 June 2009 (BST)
  5. Text rape RULES!--Orange Talk 23:19, 30 June 2009 (BST)

Guides:Meta-Careers

About the role one plays within the game.

For

  1. An obsessively organized analysis of the different career paths. I'm not sure it's useful to new players but it's just loaded with info. --GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 17:42, 29 June 2009 (BST)
  2. Yup --WanYao 07:40, 30 June 2009 (BST)

Against

  1. I just don't think this guide teaches anyone anything of value. --xoxo 09:22, 30 June 2009 (BST)
  2. The Zombie bit is cool but the Survivor bit is a little silly, it should really be a third the size, at leased. It's teaching survivors that there are many careers, 75% of which are boring and uninspiring. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:56, 30 June 2009 (BST)

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