Talk:Gibsonton
New moved from Main
October 2008
October 1st
Ducat Building is breached, 10 mutants inside, confirmed to be Undeadites. Cattle Bank is also in ruins, as is the factory 1 SW of Cattle Bank. Cathedral is reported cleared of infestation.--Garviel Loken
No Pity! No Remorse! No Fear! Talk16:32, 1 October 2008 (BST)
- Removed as contrary to NPOV guidelines. Basically, while you guys may enjoy your RP stuff... 99% of the community does not use this language. Specifically "mutant". That's solely and specifically your group's schtick. Thus, using your in-group lingo is POV and propagandistic. Perhaps there is debate and room to move, but for now I'm removing that article as non-NPOV. --WanYao 20:01, 2 October 2008 (BST)
- The rest of the post was in specific compliance and was not propagandistic and was for the purpose of providing information in coordination in dealing with the Undeadites by survivors which is a legitimate use of the News Page. If your issue is the word mutant then so be it, but that could have been resolved with a simple edit, not with full removal of the news item which is in my opinion contrary to NPOV to remove information for the specific purpose of benefiting one group similar to what happened in the run up to the Invasion of Gibsonton.--Garviel Loken
No Pity! No Remorse! No Fear! Talk20:35, 2 October 2008 (BST)
- The rest of the post was in specific compliance and was not propagandistic and was for the purpose of providing information in coordination in dealing with the Undeadites by survivors which is a legitimate use of the News Page. If your issue is the word mutant then so be it, but that could have been resolved with a simple edit, not with full removal of the news item which is in my opinion contrary to NPOV to remove information for the specific purpose of benefiting one group similar to what happened in the run up to the Invasion of Gibsonton.--Garviel Loken
Coordination and the Undeadites
The Undeadites, a horde of 67 members as per the stats page, are pushing into Gibsonton. Any interested in working to stop this menace please post any ruins you see on the suburb news page on the day they happen. Any who wish to take a more proactive role are free to register on the Imperium forum to coordinate with us in the defense of Gibsonton.--Garviel LokenNo Pity! No Remorse! No Fear! Talk17:29, 29 September 2008 (BST)
Drama Llama
Let it be known that the DA only sent about 10 soldiers total. I do not know where this number of 120 came from because the 10 DA members plus the entire Imperium isn't even close to 120. Btw, I died once while in Gibsonton and I killed 11 Pkers. Jaydepps 05:59, 29 May 2008 (BST)
- Multiple kills plus random civilians killed equals well over 200. --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 20:45, 29 May 2008 (BST)
- You say the ratio of Coalition to Imperium deaths was 3:8, but then you say that multiple kills plus random civilians equals 200. So, how many Imperium kills did you register? BTW, don't want to fight here, lets save it for the case, but you've contradicted yourself--that's all I'm saying. --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 22:09, 29 May 2008 (BST)
- The approximate ratio is 3:8. We stopped counting when we were past 200 really. We killed mostly Imperium and a lot of them were close to 5-10 apiece. I'm not about to go add up every single person again as I have to go through IRC logs, wiki edits, and multiple forums. When Vandr started counting I helped. We kicked the shit out of you. I know myself I killed over 15 Imperium and at least another 15 random civies plus your group. I can argue until the cows come home but you either know you lost and only care for PR and thus lie, or you're so thick you think losing is winning. --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 04:56, 30 May 2008 (BST)
- Where's the proof? "So yeah, dunno if you heard but I killed 129 Rummers' and 60 or so DORIS members." I'm not saying you didn't kill 200+ total, that sounds about right for a months worth of killing to be honest, but you have not shown or linked to any screenshots or iwitness reports. We're taking you on your word here. The Alliance, on the other hand, can confirm most of our kills through screenshots (the Imperium though, I have no idea). Also, I don't see how civilians are relevant here. As the event was to "grief the everliving shit out of the Imperium", one would assume both tallies would be kept separate. --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 05:05, 30 May 2008 (BST)
- I don't have the Red Rum screenshots or iwitness as I'm not in Red Rum. They did the bulk of the killing. You'd have to ask them for theirs, as well as Philosophe Knights. DORIS is made up of several groups as it is a group/organization of the best PKers out there. So DORIS alone does not have screenshots but the inner groups and pkers do. I know what you're getting at. You know you lost but you're going to try and spin it to your advantage by asking us to provide all our proof. To be honest it is way too much for us to post here. The lists go on and on and on and I'm not about to spend another 2 hrs work finding you every screenshot when we've already done it for our records. When we killed as much as we did it is a lot of work organizing everything. Eat shit. --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 20:50, 30 May 2008 (BST)
- Sonny, so how am I to know, or anyone for that matter, that you're not making the 200+ up? And do you have an answer to my question about why the civilians are being added to the total? --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 21:15, 30 May 2008 (BST)
- Civilians are being added because we are PKers...we kill everyone. When zombies attack a mall they do not count just the major groups there, they count everyone they kill. And I have no reason to make this up. We have the proof in so many places, we have testimonials from everyone involved, and testimonials from people not involved and just viewed it. You're trying to argue something so obvious it is hard to prove without accusing you of being mentally deficient. "How do you know air exists?" "Prove to me the ocean has more than 100,000 gallons in it." It's a lot of work just to prove something so obvious and silly that it isn't worth it. I don't even want to both doing all the work to get you every link because if you can't figure it out on your own you're not smart enough to understand you still lost from all the links. I'm not going to waste my time on your dumb ass. --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 21:34, 30 May 2008 (BST)
- So there's no tally for JUST Imperium/Alliance/Whatever kills? As that would reflect more accurately on who did or didn't win. And you're going to have to bring the proof up sometime. --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 22:18, 30 May 2008 (BST)
- The proof was brought up once for counting, after that we're not going to get it all back. Think of it this way. Someone says they want you to build them a house but they won't pay until after its complete, if they life it. So you spend months building it and it was very very hard. The person then says he doesn't want it and all your work went to waste. That's what you're going to do to me. If I spend all that time bringing in proof you're just going to come up with some other bullshit excuse for not believing y'all got whooped like the little bitches you are. And no we do not have a tally for each of the groups we killed. For the first week we had no real record keeping and then after that we began only marking our Imperium kills and then the GN entered so we gave up on seperating by group. Go fuck yourself. --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 22:53, 30 May 2008 (BST)
- Thats all I needed to know. Thanks. --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 23:19, 30 May 2008 (BST)
- To put in my 2 cents: I personally was killed twice by the same person (B3ARD0) and i killed around 8 or so PKers...and it's about the same for several of the imperiums guys that i've talked to. So how this whole 3:8 thing came around i don't understand. --MkoII
- Thats all I needed to know. Thanks. --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 23:19, 30 May 2008 (BST)
- The proof was brought up once for counting, after that we're not going to get it all back. Think of it this way. Someone says they want you to build them a house but they won't pay until after its complete, if they life it. So you spend months building it and it was very very hard. The person then says he doesn't want it and all your work went to waste. That's what you're going to do to me. If I spend all that time bringing in proof you're just going to come up with some other bullshit excuse for not believing y'all got whooped like the little bitches you are. And no we do not have a tally for each of the groups we killed. For the first week we had no real record keeping and then after that we began only marking our Imperium kills and then the GN entered so we gave up on seperating by group. Go fuck yourself. --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 22:53, 30 May 2008 (BST)
- So there's no tally for JUST Imperium/Alliance/Whatever kills? As that would reflect more accurately on who did or didn't win. And you're going to have to bring the proof up sometime. --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 22:18, 30 May 2008 (BST)
- Civilians are being added because we are PKers...we kill everyone. When zombies attack a mall they do not count just the major groups there, they count everyone they kill. And I have no reason to make this up. We have the proof in so many places, we have testimonials from everyone involved, and testimonials from people not involved and just viewed it. You're trying to argue something so obvious it is hard to prove without accusing you of being mentally deficient. "How do you know air exists?" "Prove to me the ocean has more than 100,000 gallons in it." It's a lot of work just to prove something so obvious and silly that it isn't worth it. I don't even want to both doing all the work to get you every link because if you can't figure it out on your own you're not smart enough to understand you still lost from all the links. I'm not going to waste my time on your dumb ass. --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 21:34, 30 May 2008 (BST)
- Sonny, so how am I to know, or anyone for that matter, that you're not making the 200+ up? And do you have an answer to my question about why the civilians are being added to the total? --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 21:15, 30 May 2008 (BST)
- I don't have the Red Rum screenshots or iwitness as I'm not in Red Rum. They did the bulk of the killing. You'd have to ask them for theirs, as well as Philosophe Knights. DORIS is made up of several groups as it is a group/organization of the best PKers out there. So DORIS alone does not have screenshots but the inner groups and pkers do. I know what you're getting at. You know you lost but you're going to try and spin it to your advantage by asking us to provide all our proof. To be honest it is way too much for us to post here. The lists go on and on and on and I'm not about to spend another 2 hrs work finding you every screenshot when we've already done it for our records. When we killed as much as we did it is a lot of work organizing everything. Eat shit. --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 20:50, 30 May 2008 (BST)
- Where's the proof? "So yeah, dunno if you heard but I killed 129 Rummers' and 60 or so DORIS members." I'm not saying you didn't kill 200+ total, that sounds about right for a months worth of killing to be honest, but you have not shown or linked to any screenshots or iwitness reports. We're taking you on your word here. The Alliance, on the other hand, can confirm most of our kills through screenshots (the Imperium though, I have no idea). Also, I don't see how civilians are relevant here. As the event was to "grief the everliving shit out of the Imperium", one would assume both tallies would be kept separate. --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 05:05, 30 May 2008 (BST)
- The approximate ratio is 3:8. We stopped counting when we were past 200 really. We killed mostly Imperium and a lot of them were close to 5-10 apiece. I'm not about to go add up every single person again as I have to go through IRC logs, wiki edits, and multiple forums. When Vandr started counting I helped. We kicked the shit out of you. I know myself I killed over 15 Imperium and at least another 15 random civies plus your group. I can argue until the cows come home but you either know you lost and only care for PR and thus lie, or you're so thick you think losing is winning. --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 04:56, 30 May 2008 (BST)
- You say the ratio of Coalition to Imperium deaths was 3:8, but then you say that multiple kills plus random civilians equals 200. So, how many Imperium kills did you register? BTW, don't want to fight here, lets save it for the case, but you've contradicted yourself--that's all I'm saying. --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 22:09, 29 May 2008 (BST)
Forum
The forum for all the survivors in Gibsonton can be found here: Gibsonton Forum
Here we can help each other and discuss the politics of the suburb.
As of now the forum seems to be pretty dead. -- Cfcdot 22:35, 4 May 2008 (BST)
Barricade Plan
Has been moved to Gibsonton Barricade Plan -- boxy T L ZS PA DA 13:38, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Call to groups of Gibsonton
Hello Survivors! I'm MatJack1, MFD Captain of Gibsonton. I would like to know the anti-zombie forces of the zone to organise each other better! Please consider posting here your name and link to your wiki-page, so we can update the template on the article page, and organise each other better. Keep up working! --MatJack1 14:29, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello from the MPD. My name is HempressOfShish and I am the new Inspector of Gibsonton. In addition to updating the suburb group list, MatJack1 also had the idea of working together to create a barricade policy that we can all agree on. I think this would be a good addition to the Wiki. --Hempress 14:41, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
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Hi there. The Winchester Boyz recently managed to get their HQ in the west side of the suburb. Newly born group, we are not as many as we hope for now. Every good willing poeple wanting to join in is welcome. We annonce here our presence in this sector, trying to provide shelters round about. Let us know if something has to be done, we will try to help the best we can. -- Waughn 10:35, 1 May 2007 (BST)
discussions
The Internet forum listed appears inactive and full of nothing but spam advertisements. Should we strike references to it? Manapua 07:55, 27 June 2007 (EST)
Is Harold Square still an active revive point, or should I just assume I'll be attacked by random people while waiting to be revived? Michael tempest 14:41, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know the situation and i don't know who keep up the revive point, it's everything to organise and put it clear, if you want to help building up defenses you are welcome! --MatJack1 14:29, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Let's keep the news postings REAL news? Don't clutter the public wiki pages intended for all players and groups with role-playing fiction they aren't interested in.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Brian McBrainfood (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.
- A little bit of roleplaying fiction is necessary to udnerstand group movements within the suburb. The two major players within Gibsonton (ie: the most active groups) are RP groups and constantly at each others' throats. - RosutoEnzeru 18:19, 12 June 2006 (BST)
- Yes, but I bet they also have their own wiki pages. Posting the pretend movements of fictional characters (who are not real-life players of the game) is pointless when posted to a wiki page used by multiple groups and pretty much every player (in theory).
- That's not to say news shouldn't be posted "in-character"... but keep it to information most useful to everyone involved... Example: "The zombies have taken the hospital!" is actually useful and informative whereas, "Today, I found a pet dog and named him Bill" is not.
- Both could easily be "in-character" and considered "role-play" however... The first is actually relevant and appropriate for a communial wiki page while the second is useless for anyone but the one person role-playing. It only serves to clutter the page with useless, and for some people confusing, data. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Brian McBrainfood (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.
- Yes, but I bet they also have their own wiki pages. Posting the pretend movements of fictional characters (who are not real-life players of the game) is pointless when posted to a wiki page used by multiple groups and pretty much every player (in theory).
Revive Request
Excuse me but I am a zombie right now and have been looking to get revived for two days now. Unfortunately people love to camp revive spots and kill zombies for no apparent reason, so if someone could come revive me it would be greatly appreciated, I'm at Houlet Lane.--SOS-Dan 04:30, 7 July 2007 (BST)
- Sorry SOS-Dan to have been so long to answer. If your request is still running, please move to Harold Square 84,27 you should have your neddle there. -- Waughn 21:46, 10 July 2007 (BST)
- I too am looking for a revive at Harold Square, (standing at the moment) as well, as a home with friends for my alt. Thanks in advance --XxPale HorsexX 11:28, 12 July 2007 (BST)
Church Lurch '07 - Feral Undead
I read with interest your comments about our little adventure in your suburb. I hope that you will come to understand that just because we are zombies, we are NOT mindless. A few headshots will not deter us from achieving our objectives. Booting us from the Cathedral will not cause us to wander out of Gibsonton.
We of the Feral Undead greatly enjoy what we do and have a lot of fun doing it. After a year and a half of play, first as a breather and now as the undead, I can state without a doubt that the Feral Undead are the best and most enjoyable group in Malton.
When you love what you do, you do it well.
I calmly await your responses, both the cocky, trenchy boasting and the intelligent, reasoned reply.
Illwind 02:20, 15 September 2007 (BST)
- we never considered you as mindless cold meat. we know you are a powerful group and respect the deadly Feral Undeads. we engaged the battle for fun, too. defending the cathedral was tough, it s a 4blocks building and we could not gather enough forces to raise against you in a decent manner. nice battle anyway. short but nice. i already left comments on cathedral page or something. -- Waughn 09:47, 26 September 2007 (BST)
Response to October 03, 2007 entry (Moved from main page)
come on LittleAxe. our Boyz keep USUAL entry points in Gibsonton. if you want to watch after barricade plans, you maybe should modify it according to ingame use, not the other way.. i know you are trying to help poeple in applying plans, but i do think your job should be respecting uses locals have and modify plans on the wiki. anyway thanks to take care of our lovely suburb. regards. -- Waughn 08:49, 14 October 2007 (BST)
- The opposite is arguable. Perhaps you shouldn't be so bold as to enforce your own vision of plans that are already established on the wiki. Part of barricading is protecting the people in the 'burb. The plans are so that some resource buildings stay open for newbies and so that people travelling from within the burb OR a few burbs away without Freerunning can find a safehouse without too much fuss. Newbs need shelter, ammo, and FAKs too.
- If you intend to make it according to "ingame" use, then establish it here first, not the other way around, otherwise, there's no point to having a 'cade plan posted at all. --Flammable 18:04, 16 October 2007 (BST)
Non-NPOV News items moved from main
May 5th
Imperial forces continue to patrol Gibsonton for PKers, survivors advised to check the profiles of all in whatever safehouse you choose to occupy for the night. In spite of pronouncements by the invading coalition to the contrary Imperial troops are very much remaining active in Gibsonton based on our reports on more private sections of our fourm.--Garviel LokenNo Pity! No Remorse! No Fear! Talk21:10, 5 May 2008 (BST)
- There are also some GKers around. Two generators have been taken down in the past ~24 hrs.
- Cfcdot 21:49, 5 May 2008 (BST)
- Probably not GKers but smart survivors... no need for gennies in pointless buildings, even if there are no zombies aroung... when they do come around... bam--/~Rakuen~\Talk
I Still Love Grim 16:49, 6 May 2008 (BST)
- Probably not GKers but smart survivors... no need for gennies in pointless buildings, even if there are no zombies aroung... when they do come around... bam--/~Rakuen~\Talk
May 4th
The Imperium has stood down and abandoned Gibsonton without a struggle, peacefully handing power to the Imperium Must Die Coalition. We are declaring an amnesty on Warhammer 40K miniature owners, and promise not to shoot people who hand over their dinky little metal figurines to be melted down for scrap. Turkmenbashi 03:28, 4 May 2008 (BST)
- The Imperium have admitted to leaving the suburb on their forum. They have evacuated to Heytown and attack the Coalition from there before retreating again from Gibsonton. --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS MSD MOB pr0n 17:44, 4 May 2008 (BST)
- You actually think we're stupid enough to post up what we're really doing in an open to the public general chat forum knowing you have three people on there observing what we do? Are you going to tell me next you think tabloids tell nothing but the unvarnished truth?--Garviel LokenNo Pity! No Remorse! No Fear! Talk21:02, 5 May 2008 (BST)
- You actually think we're stupid enough to post up what we're really doing in an open to the public general chat forum knowing you have three people on there observing what we do? Are you going to tell me next you think tabloids tell nothing but the unvarnished truth?--Garviel Loken
- Might I remind Garviel and Gnome that this is supposed to be a Neutral Point Of View wiki, not a "delete everything that isn't pro-survivor" wiki. Turkmenbashi 04:11, 5 May 2008 (BST)
- Fabricating the news is not NPOV unless you really are losing. Then again you're the ones who went from "we'll wipe you off the face of the earth" to "you don't appear to be where we are in Gibsonton thus we win!" I'm sure your next news post will be "the insurgency is in its last throes."Garviel LokenNo Pity! No Remorse! No Fear! Talk17:24, 5 May 2008 (BST)
- It ain't fabricated news when there's never more than two or three Imperium members in the suburb at a time and we have more luck finding you in adjacent suburbs than we are in Gibsonton. You guys bailed, which is totally understandable since there's not really many things you can do to avoid getting shot in a game like UD. Turkmenbashi 08:49, 6 May 2008 (BST)
- Fabricating the news is not NPOV unless you really are losing. Then again you're the ones who went from "we'll wipe you off the face of the earth" to "you don't appear to be where we are in Gibsonton thus we win!" I'm sure your next news post will be "the insurgency is in its last throes."Garviel Loken
More non-news
- I won't remove this "news", but what proof do you have that the Imperium stood down? If you can't back it up, this is pretty much anything but NPOV. Plus, nothing was peaceful - you've shot each other dozens of times. And like Mr. Gnome said, 40k isn't UD. --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 04:18, 5 May 2008 (BST)
- How many news updates from people who aren't PKers do you normally ask to see proof of? Turkmenbashi 04:33, 5 May 2008 (BST)
- Now Mr. Turk, just because you shoot us in the back doesn't mean we don't trust you! But frankly, what you're claiming here YOU know not to be true. So why continue to post it? --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 04:57, 5 May 2008 (BST)
- Because there's nary an Imperium member to be found sleeping in in the suburb, and the public section of their own forum has posts advising members to work out of other suburbs? And we should probably take the rest of this to the talk page soon Turkmenbashi 07:42, 5 May 2008 (BST)
- Now Mr. Turk, just because you shoot us in the back doesn't mean we don't trust you! But frankly, what you're claiming here YOU know not to be true. So why continue to post it? --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 04:57, 5 May 2008 (BST)
- How many news updates from people who aren't PKers do you normally ask to see proof of? Turkmenbashi 04:33, 5 May 2008 (BST)
