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DevilAsh

• Ashley_Valentine (talk | contribs | UDWiki contribs | vndl data)

What can be said about a Hyperintelligent man such as DevilAsh. Well, if one were to take a mere 30 seconds to get to know him you will find out that:

• He owns his own apartment in England, which is a pretty monumental task since the world knows that apartments are for renting.
• That he is a honor student in the field of psychology. So this tells me that on top of his ability to make a wiki a better place, he will do so with a flare of slick helpfulness and give our more suicidal members a place to turn when their A/VB and Arbitration cases make them feel hopeless.
• He has awesome hair, an amazing defined jawline. Some might classify this as arrogance, but arrogance is a flaw, the DevilAsh is perfect.
• Being English, he enjoys high tea. But he also have a love for coffee, showing how diverse he can be and willingness to accept all choices, no matter how hard.
• His favorite band is Brand New, and when I learned this, I had no idea who this band was... perhaps because they were brand new. But that wasn't what caught my eye. What caught my eye was his choice of spelling of the word "favorite." His purposeful use of the American spelling of the word gives us great insight into the mind of DevilAsh, telling us that he is accepting of all cultures and beliefs. Certainly this would include those who are into cross dressing.
• He is a staunch supporter of those afflicted with Seasonal Affective Disorder, a disorder which causes those who are without sunlight to fall into a deep depression, and has a campaign to end the embarrassment they face because of their anacroym.
• He does not own an MP3 player, which in today's society says a lot that he's got higher priorities even though he really, really wants one, he uses his resources and wealth to help those who are less fortunate than him (the irish).
• He also thinks glassjaw are an awesome band. He singles this band out specifically because he supports their humanitarian efforts providing hair nets to the less fortunate people of Latin America.
• He is also completely, utterly mad! Mad the direction the world is taking in regards to febris e causa ignota, otherwise know is the Fever of Unknown Origin. His dedication to finding a cure for this disorder which afflicts literally hundreds of people around the globe. To this day, the United Nations continues to ignore his calls and letters about this blight upon the world's citizens. Imagine the catastrophic events that would occur if this went viral.

Needless to say, this is just a sampling of all the qualities that DevilAsh possesses showing his true character which he might be too humble to state for himself, it doesn't take a rocket scientist (a profession he sought out before he was inspired to help others) to figure out after spending any time with this wonderful human being. Sure, he doesn't have the "guideline recommended" number of edits, but really, we all know the guidelines aren't written in stone, otherwise they would say "must" not "should." Sometimes its good to be understated. I would much rather have someone take their time and make thoughtful edits, rather than bombard the system with unnecessary changes and useless rhetoric to bump their status like some recent members of the sysop team. DevilAsh's sense of justice is blind. That is why he was named chief biscuit of RedRum. He has the ability to make non-discriminatory decisions for the good of the group, and that can apply here. He is also a friend to the bearded and the undead, and I have been told by Suburban Ed when asked to describe DevilAsh:

Suburban Ed from IRC

<&Suburban_Ed> Great kisser

That is quite an endorsement. DevilAsh is your friend. DevilAsh will take you to the next level. DevilAsh will make you better. DevilAsh will make you less oily. And that is why, I, Godfather Anime Sucks, endorse this bid and invite you all to share a story or a moment in your support for DevilAsh for sysop, because he kicks Ash! --THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks ^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 21:48, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Accepted

I was told to accept this, and so I have. But first, let me try and explain a little why I am accepting this: It's been at least half a year now since I have seriously thought about applying for sysop. (I highly recommend reading my thoughts). Most of what I thought there still stands. I haven't changed that much as a person since then, and if I would tell you about my history, or who I am I would be pretty much repeating my previous ideas. Ever since then I have continued my activity, in again most of the drama-prone areas. And drama there has been, some of which I was personally involved. Still I handled myself during those times well enough I believe. Again, referring to my old thought, meta-experience in A/A, A/VB and A/M since 2008. I'll say what I think, directly and honestly. There have been some moments, especially in my troubled past, where I was a bit too compassionate leading me into (personal) conflicts but I put those times past me. I try to be open to criticism, but in the end the skill that I deem most important to have in drama sections, is the ability to get along with people you just had an incredible heated discussion with. To overcome each others disagreements is the key to any sort of harmony and respect needed in a community of any sorts. This issue was certainly something in the last six months. If you want to compare me to the other sysops, I have somewhat common ground with probably...Thadeous Oakley (hope he doesn't feel offended now) minus a lot of (life) experience. Not because I necessarily always agree with him (I don't) but more in his approach of things. Moving on: I chipped in here and there with some paper work contributions. Deletions, protections, created a policy in my mind (that was eventually shot down by my other mind) fixing some stuff. However, as a janitor these things were mostly minor, and certainly not anything spectacular. I'll always do my share of this stuff, as regular user and as potential sysops, but I'm not going sugarcoat this, I'm nothing more then average as a janitor. Not much has changed, and you may ask yourself if that's good time considering my last mind-bid failed. Well, I think I did actually almost nailed a promotion last time. Grown a bit wiser too. Not to mention my vandal history is now...history. My last infraction being in March 11, I think I have overcome most of my devious flaws. Still not perfect, never will too, but I think I can handle the job and responsibilities. Sincerely, --Thadeous Oakley Talk 11:52, 24 January 2011 (UTC) --Ash  ^{|  T  |  яя  |} 22:15, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Nice comeback man! Keep it up, you'll be a great wiki member in no time. --Thadeous Oakley Talk 22:40, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

(Since you're allowed to comment here, I figure it is only fair if I am allowed to retort) -- You are certainly leading by example! --Ash  ^{|  T  |  яя  |} 23:42, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

*takes a huge breath* aaaBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM -- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 23:44, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

• For - I am proud to be the first person for vouch for you, DevilAsh. You truly inspired me to put my grudge on hold and donate to the red cross to help out the relief in Japan. You eased my fear of the conspiracy that all the money would go towards anime-related endeavors. --THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks ^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 21:48, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
• For - Cause I owe them D:--^TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 21:49, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
• Necessary Sys-Op Vouch - He is neither Thad, nor does his name rhyme with it. -- Spiderzed▋ 21:50, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
• For - I want Ash! --Suburban Ed 21:51, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
• Strong Against - Fails criteria, joke bid nadada etc. Feel highly inclined to move this to the talk page. --Thadeous Oakley Talk 21:53, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

  Again, the criterion isn't written in stone. They are not "must have" requirements, otherwise the verbage would reflect this. Also, removing such a bid, would constitute bias, as per some of your comments in dealing with DevilAsh in the past, and I would assume bad faith.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks ^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 22:04, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

• Against - The sysop team is no place for women. ~ _{21:54, 21 March 2011}

  Nice try. --Thadeous Oakley Talk 21:58, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

  The perfect reason to vote for me, then, I am male! --Ash  ^{|  T  |  яя  |} 22:52, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

  The sysop team is no place for cross-dressers. --VVV ^RPGMBCWS 23:01, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

• Against - No. -- Cheese 21:59, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
• For - Oh God please yes. He satisfies me every need. -Austin Hunt 22:02, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
• For – Obviously. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 22:07, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
• IV 22:28, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

  You rang? IV ^PK 04:49, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

• Strongly Against - Although Anime made many good points, the spelling of "favourite" as "favorite" is unacceptable practice. As, when I get up tomorrow morning, DevilAsh will be permanently banned for this vile utterance, it makes no sense to promote him to system operator.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 22:46, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

  Oh yeah, also this is a joke bid crawling with meatpuppets.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 22:47, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

  Prove Joke Bid and Prove Meatpuppetry.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks ^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 22:55, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

  I don't need proof, I'm Charlie Sheen.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 22:56, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

• A/VB - As Cheese. --VVV ^RPGMBCWS 23:01, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
• Fore! For 4 - DevilAsh is actually a lot smarter, openminded, and perceptive than most people allow themselves to think about him. To his credit, he is not a current member of the SysOps team, which I think says a lot about him. --DT^PK 23:05, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
• For - I hear good things. Very good things. -- Bisfan 23:12, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
• For - He will bring balance to the force, from my extensive experience with DevilAsh I have to say he has always impressed me with his dilgent nature, diplomatic class and soft hands.--Rapture 23:17, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
• who the fuck says 'for'. against -- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 23:31, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
• vouch i don't know ddr golfers?. and I am not a meat puppie. i just hate thad.--
  
  bitch 23:54 21 March 2011 (UTC)
• For - Revenant meatsockpuppet. The Grimch ^{U! E!} 00:04, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
• Strong Vouch- I've known Ash since before I was babah Mimey, He's a good bloke, still in game after all these years. He has the ability to make non-discriminatory decisions and is very open minded. Temperament is level headed. I've seen it in action. Also, unlike Thad. <3 --_♥AU10♥Pantomime _{Mistress of Pain}┌∩┐(◕‿◕)┌∩┐ 00:25, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
• strongest vouch possible why the hell not. I mean, just looking at this bid makes me happy so imagining what he could do with the POWER means i can't possibly say no. --Honestmistake 00:48, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
• Against - With all the recent shenanigans on A/VB recently, I don't think you're ready for it yet. When you're causing less drama, then come back and give it another shot. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 01:04, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

  u suck axe. i'm coming to you're high school and i'm gonna shove you in a ya locker--

  

  bitch 01:06 22 March 2011 (UTC)

  You go do that, Harrison. You probably won't find me. I graduated a good 2 years ago. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 01:42, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

  There's always reunions!--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks ^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 02:19, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

  Queens ain't that big axe. shit i've known you for a long time.--

  

  bitch 04:54 22 March 2011 (UTC)

• Strong Vouch: As a relaxed, easy-going chap he will fit in badly with the role of system operator and will probably be relentlessly ground down into a rules lawyer within 2 months. I look forwards to the bitter relinquishing of his principles as is befitting any entry into politics (on a more serious note: awesome, cheery guy with plenty of perspective, exactly what the top chaps could do with). --Karloth Vois ^¯\(°_o)/¯ 01:16, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
• Strong Vouch - Anyone that's ever worked with Ash on any level knows that he's an easy going guy but he can get the job done. He'll do this job to the best of his abilities and do it because it needs done. Also the SysOP staff could use another competent member. So far there are only two SysOPs (three including Kevan) that fit that description. The rest are either corrupt/power hungry douchebags and people I've never heard of. -- Goribus 02:16, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

  Haha Iove this dude's reasoning. I'm sure you've never heard of me but incompetent? ~ _{02:27, 22 March 2011}

  You gotta keep in mind which sysop is his idea of able :| -- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 03:16, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

  Vapor, I think you might have failed basic reading comprehension. Because that was an either/or statement. If I've never heard of someone I can't exactly gauge their level of competence can I? You got a free pass because I have no clue who you are. And DDR's right, my idea of a good sysOP is someone that isn't corrupt, doesn't abuse their position for power and status, and does their job. So not him or his buddies. -- Goribus 06:12, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

  And misconMeatpupanthropy fits that criterea! -- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 06:49, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

• For I vote of my own volition and not because I expect gold and or hamsters to overflow in my basket. --Karek^maps?! 05:49, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
• Vouch He amuses me. Of the current sysops only Dancey, Rossy, Missy and Spidey does. We need more amusement. (And yes, I naturally expected a bribe for this. A hefty one.) Oidar 16:27, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
• Against - Joke bid. --^A_O^R_D^M_O^P_R^I _! ^T 20:02, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

  false, might wanna have your mind reading powers checked.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks ^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 20:13, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

• Question - Is this a serious bid or is it not? I've been going on the assumption that it is not but some people seem to think otherwise. ~ _{21:53, 22 March 2011}

This is not a joke bid. I don't know if I'll need to repeat this again or not, but this is very serious in its nature. I welcome questions as to why I accepted/think I would be good in this role, but I hope this is now ironed out and will not need to be asked again. --Ash  ^{|  T  |  яя  |} 22:02, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

I started ignoring the discussion on other pages a day ago so if it was mentioned elsewhere I missed it. ~ _{22:22, 22 March 2011}

• Question - To those of us that view your contribs to admin pages in the past as "jokes", how are we to expect you will conduct yourself in the future if promoted? Will it be business as usual? Or should we expect more reverence towards admin pages? ~ _{22:22, 22 March 2011}

I don't see it as so much 'business as usual' or 'reverence towards admin pages'. More that, in the end, for a strong and active community to exist on the wiki there needs to be a healthy balance between guideline-enforcing and being too lax. It's a given that I deserved to be warned yesterday, but the joke only came about because of the handling of the case. If things were taken in a much more sensical way, and people weren't making themselves too easy to milk, then it wouldn't have been the clusterfuck for the sysops that it was.

As for me in the future, it pretty much stands in the same way: I do not purposefully set out with a preemptive plan for things to happen (for example, yesterday) -- and the only expectations of placed on me currently are those I have of myself. If I was to become a sysop, this will change accordingly and I will act accordingly. I do honestly think that a lot needs played with on the policy front, though, and will try to initiate changes either way. --Ash  ^{|  T  |  яя  |} 22:44, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

But looking back through your contributions, the only admin pages you've edited recently are VB and arbitration. You don't appear to have done any janitor work at all. So why do you think you need the buttons? -- Cheese 22:47, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

But as I'm sure you've probably seen, the drama on admin pages is always present and sysops will likely always act how they feel accordingly. Given that the sysop reactions won't likely change if you're promoted, would we expect to see the same reactions from you? Humor in sysops is a good thing but making a total mockery of the sysop team...not so much. ~ _{22:59, 22 March 2011}

Cheese: True -- although I have always offered myself as an Arbitrator, I have not had much time within this wiki outside of voting and questioning policies and adding my own remarks to them. The main reason I feel I 'need the buttons', as so to say, is because I believe I could advance policy and discussion in a greater way if I had them, and I feel that I could combine objective judgement with subjective reasoning in my janitorial work to better the wiki in general. I feel that I can do this with my relative knowledge of how a wiki works, knowledge of the current guidelines and regulations and with my own qualitative and quantitative thoughts.

Vapor: Short answer, no. You will not see me reacting in the same way as most other sysops for reasons already described, although I would try my best to lead by example and teach a better way of reacting to those that feel they need it. --Ash  ^{|  T  |  яя  |} 23:06, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

But then that just makes it sound like you're just after being a sysop for the status rather than wanting to do the actual job. You also only meet two of the guidelines. -- Cheese 23:10, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

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