User talk:Boxy

Main Talk • Locations • Suggest • Signature • Templates Navigation • Playpen POV Sug • Image Archive Please read first! Don't worry about keeping to the relevant sections, just add new subjects at the top, I'll move 'em around when I get to it. New Stuff August 2010 First mall piñata: Calvert or Treweeke? Hello there, it's been a couple of years since I last visited the wiki. I have something to ask that only you and perhaps Yonnua can answer. Some members of LUE has been active again under the LUEshi's Rangers group, and today they took down Calvert Mall. Not only that, but they turned the mall complex into a piñata. However I got into a disagreement with a member of the group who has been claiming Calvert was the first mall to be turned to a piñata. In the piñata talk page, I read that Treweeke was the first mall to be put to a piñata. But in the Calvert Mall page, someone from LUEshi's Rangers is claiming Calvert was the first. Could you please weigh in with your opinion on what happened? Thanks. --Aeon17x 15:42, 21 August 2010 (BST) I don't know if Treweeke was the first mall to be Pinataed, but it definitely was for a short time when I posted on that talk page. Dead Animal patrols the Pescodcide/Dulston area, and often camps out in Treweeke. Over the last year or so, it's been ruined for most of the time, often with only a token feral presence inside, and with infrequent attempts from survivors to retake it. At the time, survivors were retaking corners, repairing and 'cading them, but not willing/able to take the whole mall. So there were often EHB, yet ruined sections of the mall, which made it ripe pickings for death cultists to pinata with minimal effort, thanks to the "help" of the half-hearted survivor efforts. I don't know who it was that actually did the deed, but I did see the results, with 3 corners at EHB and one at heavily, and all ruined, meaning that survivors had to break down the 'cades to get in. It lasted only an hour or so. As I said, I don't know if it was the first mall pinata, but it's the only one I've heard of until now -- boxy talk • teh rulz 18:29 21 August 2010 (BST) Basically, I'd say that while it's not clear Treweeke was the first piñatad mall, it's safe to say that Calvert was not the first, given that there's a record of at least one other mall being piñatad before it. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if a few other malls were turned into piñatas at some point in the past but no record was ever made of it. After all, the game has been going on for awhile, and piñataing a building isn't exactly a novel concept any longer. —Aichon— 21:54, 21 August 2010 (BST) Don't remember which mall, but I had a moment a year back. A mall, pinated except for one corner, which was also ruined. I enter, only to find it empty. I repair everything, and since the other corner were all EHB, I basically took an entire Mall with minimum effort. Fun times. --Thadeous Oakley 22:03, 21 August 2010 (BST) Didn't they Pinata a mall for Sanhaim 3? I remember Dowdney Mall was fine one day and then ruined the next but I don't remember if they pinataed to do it or if they just broke down the cades and rushed in. Also I would recommend you ask someone in the RRF as I know the Gore Corps came close a number of times to doing that stuff --    Timmah!     Talk   22:36, 21 August 2010 (BST) fuck tha gr33ns if you didn't vote for sex party I'll be very disappointed! --         12:03, 21 August 2010 (BST) You people and your "polotics". I should send the Queen out to slap you all. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 12:05, 21 August 2010 (BST) make her slap a certified sex party member and film his reaction, then i'll approve --         13:08, 21 August 2010 (BST) Are you a psychic? -- boxy talk • teh rulz 13:14 21 August 2010 (BST) I call it sexvoyance! --         14:00, 21 August 2010 (BST) Sysop bid So, you guys didn't mention your reasons on the bid. I figure lack of activity is probably the biggest (heck, look at how long it's taken me to ask this), but am curious as to whether there is anything else I should work on if I'm looking to run again at some point? ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 03:17, 17 August 2010 (BST) Oh wait, no, you did discuss it (on this very talk page!), I just didn't read low down enough. Fair enough. Question still stands. :) ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 03:20, 17 August 2010 (BST) Yeah, mostly the activity thing. Promises of future increased activity doesn't help much. Nominating a long banned member, after having a run in on A/VB yourself, didn't really do much to make it look like you were going into this for the right reasons either. Just keep doing what you're doing, and if you're still keen, put up another bid after a while. As I said elsewhere, I have no real problem promoting you if you can demonstrate the increased involvement -- boxy talk • teh rulz 10:22 19 August 2010 (BST) Cheers mate, and fair enough. That reminds me – am I due for de-escalation yet? ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 11:07, 20 August 2010 (BST) Without trying to sounds as intrusive and as blunt as it seems- as are a budding sysop you'd probably find it beneficial seeing about that yourself, since most of the cockups from the sysop team revolve around lack of understanding of the A/VD and de-escalations system --         11:12, 20 August 2010 (BST) But I try to avoid VD as much as possible! D: ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 07:25, 21 August 2010 (BST) Lol fair. --         07:58, 21 August 2010 (BST) You are, by about 20 contributions.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 11:42, 20 August 2010 (BST) Sounds great. I'll have one of those, then, if I may? ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 07:27, 21 August 2010 (BST) Post in on DE. Pretty sure you have to now, because of a policy a while back.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 10:38, 21 August 2010 (BST) Yo Yo I fucking lulzed. You blind wanker. 03:26, 12 August 2010 (BST) Well,... he must be blind.... I've got this big ol' text at the top of the page that says "PUT ALL NEW POSTS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE".... And here comes none other than boxy, and posting in the middle of my talk page no less... Comparatively,... Imthatguy did something similar... I even had a user post on my front page... For real though,... just read the instructions, and comply. That's all I ask,... nothing major. Don't come along almost a year after a subject ends, and post, half way up my talk page. -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 03:34, 12 August 2010 (BST) Even if it's clearly a continuation of the old topic? You'd have loved SA then. 03:39, 12 August 2010 (BST) But it wasn't. The section he posted in was about templating sections of a few particular pages. Instead, he commented on my recent mass editing of my group subpages, where I racked up over two hundred edits (one hundred last night, and one hundred today), and was pumping it out like rapid fire... Looking at them hurt his eyes. To that I say,... go eat a carrot, and STFU... crybaby. -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 03:44, 12 August 2010 (BST) Yes it's clearly me who's laughing who's QQing and not the dude tl;dring the wiki explaining something trivial... 03:46, 12 August 2010 (BST) You want to talk about trivial,... so's commenting on someone editing their group subpages... one has to ask "Who Cares?" Like I said, if it hurts your eyes, eat a carrot. If you don't like that I removed his edit, revert the son of a bitch. If you thought my comment was funny,... well so's your mother. Regardless, everything surrounding the matter is pointless. And yet, here we all are.... -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 03:54, 12 August 2010 (BST) QED. 03:56, 12 August 2010 (BST) Which is an abbreviation for what exactly? -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 03:59, 12 August 2010 (BST) quod erat demonstrandium. i may have spelled that wrong. --         04:09, 12 August 2010 (BST) Quit Editing, Doodles? -- boxy talk • teh rulz 07:46 12 August 2010 (BST) Yay! I was going to create a new header for it, but meh, it just didn't seem important enough for that. And it was indeed the same subject. If you don't want them edited, archive your talk page (I always try to keep mine short ) -- boxy talk • teh rulz 07:46 12 August 2010 (BST) Um,.... no? -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 22:58, 12 August 2010 (BST) I understand jokes! --         23:32, 12 August 2010 (BST) And putting commas before full stops is RIGHT --         23:32, 12 August 2010 (BST) And bolding links relentlessly DOESN'T ANNOY DDR --         13:38, 13 August 2010 (BST) Sysop input requested There's a sysop-only vote taking place, and we haven't heard from you yet. Check here. —Aichon— 20:24, 9 August 2010 (BST) Clay pigeon shooting, dressed as a pigeon. I'm away for 4 days, at a stag do. Basically unless anything mad happens, mis has the overwhelming support of the community and I have no concerns about reapproving him. ta. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 23:10, 5 August 2010 (BST) Dressing up as a discus like object? Pics! :p No problem, have fun -- boxy talk • teh rulz 23:13 5 August 2010 (BST) A/VB Discussion I was kinda surprised you moved the useless discussion started by me when I clicked the Edit tab as I was about to move it myself. But since you got to it, I won't complain if you put me up for A/VB for the Asian discussion...I'll take whatever warning you SysOps give me. I won't complain about it since I knew the rules of discussion... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 15:01, 5 August 2010 (BST) I hereby sentence you to a dacking, and to be laughed at mercilessly for a period of time not exceeding 10 minutes -- boxy talk • teh rulz 15:10 5 August 2010 (BST) Uh...Not quite what I was expecting...I'm guessing you're gonna let me pass this time around, huh, Boxy? >< --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 15:17, 5 August 2010 (BST) Just move it to the talk page earlier, next time... or better still, put your reply there in the first place. It would only be a soft warning (at worst), at this stage, in any case -- boxy talk • teh rulz 15:22 5 August 2010 (BST) Yep. Axe, you're being too hard on yourself, we move stuff over to talk lots but it's only for repeat offenders who ignore soft warnings, or users who really go ape on abusing that leniency who actually get escalated. --         16:20, 5 August 2010 (BST) Racism Racism is a word invented by the divide and conquer pedozionists, which is ment to kill any way of debate; paralyze every way of thinking. Like the word 'heretic' in the Dark ages. History repeats itself when the first time no one was listening; patterns. That said, there is no thing like 'roleplay' here. In real life I'm exactly the same. Germanic Hailgreet, CORNH卐LIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 10:50, 5 August 2010 Admin pages are not the place to "debate" such issues, any more than it's a place to debate global warming or alien abductions -- boxy talk • teh rulz 10:57 5 August 2010 (BST) Did I post anything wrong on the VB page? --CORNH卐LIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 11:26, 5 August 2010 Listen up, fucknut. I don't want to debate race politics with you. And it has no relevance on the A/VB page, so keep it off there -- boxy talk • teh rulz 11:53 5 August 2010 (BST) Corn posts comment about how no one listens. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 10:58, 5 August 2010 (BST) Thad bid UDWiki:Administration/Promotions#Thadeous_Oakley Hmmm. Basically, 12 hours or so to go, and I'm kind of wandering to yes. The central questions for me are, do I think he's overcome the umbrella spat, and can a former zerger truly reform. Convince me one way or the other box. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 09:11, 3 August 2010 (BST) While the Umbrella conflict seems to have finally died a natural death, the alt abuse thing is something that I don't think I can get past. Making a mistake is one thing, but it seems to have been a deliberate tactic, that even extended to sockpuppeting at least one A/BP vote here on the wiki. If we had different classes of sysops, so that he could be kept away from A/VB and A/M type decisions, it would be less of an issue -- boxy talk • teh rulz 13:20 3 August 2010 (BST) There we go then. We both have concerns. I'll leave the judgement up to you, as i sorted out grim and rev. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:11, 3 August 2010 (BST) I was planning on placing a notice similar like on Ross's page but it seems you're already doing business. Too be honest, if I get rejected I would really appreciate some criticism on my current contributions and a chance to work them out. I agree that mistakes were made some years ago and need to be taken into account here but if the decision is based solely on those mistakes, then it pretty much boils down to not ever trying A/PM again for me, and even Jerrel received more hope than that. I can (and did, in my opinion) reform and improve but building a time-machine to change the past and take those concerns you have away is sadly beyond my capabilities. --Thadeous Oakley 23:32, 3 August 2010 (BST) I know it's not really my place to get involved, but if you all don't mind my opinion, and even if you do,... at a quick glance, it would seem as if the vote is fairly well split. There are two ops with concerns.... could we simply leave it with "Run again in a month"? I know posting for promotions several times has been deemed vandalism,... and I'd hate to see him try again on his own in a month, just to get slapped on the wrist. But really,... I think Thad is okay,... but needs to provide more substatial proof of that. A months time should work out the kinks.... -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 23:41, 3 August 2010 (BST) He's not going to get VBed for another promotion bid in the future (after a reasonable amount of time) -- boxy talk • teh rulz 13:50 4 August 2010 (BST) You should really move this back to my bid, because you're now basically playing for crat, and that's why there is community discussion. I appreciate the support, I really do, but now I'm already regretting putting that bit above up. It was something meant for Boxy and Ross only, I don't want other people's opinion at this point, otherwise I'm changing Boxy's talk into a part of A/PM discussion. --Thadeous Oakley 23:52, 3 August 2010 (BST) Frankly, it's nobody's place to get involved, except for Boxy and Ross. They should decide, and are perfectly qualified to do so without cajoling.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 23:46, 3 August 2010 (BST) That said, they're also perfectly capable of deciding whether to listen or not... -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 23:54, 3 August 2010 (BST) No. Your opinion isn't wanted so shut up and let the crats talk without flies buzzing in their ears. --         00:20, 4 August 2010 (BST) Seriously. Much like Peter Mcnicol in Ghostbusters 2, you are like the buzzing of flies to me. Thad, in the next few days, we're going to have a major update. I'd advise you to take it on yourself to help create, edit and fact check how the changes effect the game and the wiki. A big project is the perfect way to show your sop materials.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:47, 4 August 2010 (BST) July 2010 Your name has come up... ...in relation to a Misconduct case. I apologize for not having mentioned it earlier, but it completely slipped my mind to notify the affected parties at the time that I posted the case. —Aichon— 04:44, 29 July 2010 (BST) One Red Hawk Re-evaluation is ending in two days, I'm assuming that unless there's a sudden surge of nays, you'll have no problem with a successful reappointment. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 11:52, 22 July 2010 (BST) Sure -- boxy talk • teh rulz 12:33 23 July 2010 (BST) One of you guys should probably post this on his RE bid then. :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:46, 26 July 2010 (BST) A-HA! Diligence! I KNEW you were Crat material when I voted!! ;D --         11:48, 26 July 2010 (BST) Boxy and Ross still beat me and SA though ... :P Linkthewindow  Talk  11:52, 26 July 2010 (BST) Woops, looked at it the other day, and thought, "no, not quite 2 weeks yet". D'oh :D -- boxy talk • teh rulz 12:00 26 July 2010 (BST) Well, it's an easy mistake to make. The whole RE is 1, PM is 2 thing always throws me for a loop.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 12:02, 26 July 2010 (BST) The Joy of promotions Anyway, to summarise. Grim. Absolutely not. Even if I was too consider it, the fact he's not made a single edit in the last 9 days suggests that the bid is nothing other than a revenant dare. As for Rev? Well. I still have no idea if he's being serious. Yes, he's massively active in the game, and on several sites, and I feel he would be an asset in some ways. But im not convinced he has the wiki knowledge. I think his response to GFJ in his own promotion bid sums up my position. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:34, 19 July 2010 (BST) I agree, I've no real problem with Rev overall, but would like to see the promised increase in wiki presense before promotion. Being a sysop is not required in order to change the system we've got -- boxy talk • teh rulz 09:49 20 July 2010 (BST) you want to pass judgement, or shall I? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:39, 20 July 2010 (BST) A/PM Community discussion closed on two candidates.-- Adward  18:05, 19 July 2010 (BST) Bard Ooooooh, alright. Thanks for helping me out with that Boxy. I appreciate it. Hope you're having a good weekend. --TheBardofAwesome 18:20, 18 July 2010 (BST) So, wait I'm not allowed to defend myself on my own A/VB case now? ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 23:52, 5 July 2010 (BST) Regarding that case, boxy, you know as well as any that a soft warning is the standard first step and that without trying to get the person to stop first it's not considered vandalism. Making that an escalation offense is just plain poor form. --Karekmaps?! 17:42, 11 July 2010 (BST) hardly. --         18:39, 11 July 2010 (BST) Soft warnings for talk page spam? Really? The first time I remember this sort of thing coming up, is Codename V, and while he'd been told not to be annoying with his promotional stuff it similar (non talk page) situations, he was warned as soon as he was brought to the VB page -- boxy talk • teh rulz 09:27 12 July 2010 (BST) Codename V was not the same thing. This is closer to "hey, vote on my suggestion/policy plox" which has always been given the curtosy of a hey knock it off before escalation unless something has changed drastically. --Karekmaps?! 15:45, 20 July 2010 (BST) No, this is more like getting everyone who voted on the suggestion but against what you wanted them to vote for, and spam an obnoxious pre-written template on their page threatening them with in-game PKing (even in light-heartedness, the ethics of it is questionable, especially in the roleplaying manner they were trying to convey) if they don't change their vote. There, any other flawless examples to liken this too? --         15:51, 20 July 2010 (BST) Actually it's more like you're a shitty admin that began simply mr chip on your shoulder long ago and should have left when all your comments and rulings became about your ego. The fact that you can't see a difference between this and semi automated group spam just shows this in spades. This is not the type of thing the rule was made for, and shitting on metafun on the wiki is not the type of thing sysops exist for. --Karekmaps?! 16:03, 20 July 2010 (BST) Better practice this rant for all the sysops that agreed then, not just mr chip. I fucking love the metafun and that's what I actually am fighting for, you fucking imbecile, I love the roleplaying fun and I'd like everyone to have a piece of it, but when a pissy title like mayor of malton suddenly becomes such a fucking dramafest because people like Jorm and Rev have to go over the top simply to "win", then that ruines the metafun. Tell the people who voted for their mate and were subsequently spammed and threatened by Revenant this, and ask them if they enjoyed the metafun after that. --         16:12, 20 July 2010 (BST) yup, keep on proving that point DDR, maybe some day you'll be taken seriously if you keep justifying it as drama when you blatantly just don't agree with who's doing it. --Karekmaps?! 16:26, 20 July 2010 (BST) Again, really, I don't understand, please provide any sort of evidence that I don't like Revenant? I thought you were better than conspiracy theories Karke, sure you didn't give your account to SA after his perma? Sheesh. --         16:29, 20 July 2010 (BST) Bump Much excitement. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:00, 5 July 2010 (BST) Meh -- boxy talk • teh rulz 22:59 5 July 2010 (BST) Stuff I really should archive June 2010 DanceDanceRepromotion Ends tomorrow. or tonight. or something. thoughts? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 10:19, 14 June 2010 (BST) Can we permban him? -- boxy talk • teh rulz 12:52 14 June 2010 (BST) Sure --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:23, 14 June 2010 (BST) Thank you and sorry Thanks for unbanning me! I promise to destroy all of wiki...I mean not to destroy all of wiki (ban put back in place).lol Now in all seriousness, thank you. Also sorry, for putting you guys in work for something a small as me. I'll try to product only helpful content.--Lonercs 15:24, 9 June 2010 (BST) PS. I have no clue where to place this It's not me that you should be apologising too -- boxy talk • teh rulz 17:51 9 June 2010 (BST) what the fuck is going on in this wiki everything's gone to shit (or has it?) Cyberbob  Talk  05:16, 8 June 2010 (BST) Dunno why you came to boxy about this, since he's the only one doing half-assed moderating at this point. --         05:28, 8 June 2010 (BST) i dunno just clickin around and clicked his name, what does it matter Cyberbob  Talk  05:32, 8 June 2010 (BST) Just taking shit too seriously, same old. --         05:34, 8 June 2010 (BST) "BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWW! I'M DDR AND I'M ACTING LIKE A COMPLETE FAGGOT AND EVERYONE HATES ME! I NEED GORRIBUS TO LICK MY TAINT AND MAKE ME FEEL BETTER!" That's what you sound like. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 05:38, 8 June 2010 (BST) huh? follow people around and QQ in all caps , butthurt much?--         05:43, 8 June 2010 (BST) One has to have a reason to be butthurt. Ever realize that people just don't like you? You've never done anything to make me upset. You just happen to be a complete faggot that needs to be purged. Do not flatter yourself. You've never done anything worthy of upsetting me. Also, choke on a dick and die. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 05:58, 8 June 2010 (BST) Prove me wrong and leave this place and stop harassing me? ;_; --         06:05, 8 June 2010 (BST) Probably just that time of the month -- boxy talk • teh rulz 08:11 8 June 2010 (BST) Today Hai, i've seen all the crap you're dealing with today and thought i'd leave this picture of an incredibly cute cat here for your benefit link ♥ Moonie Talk | Kyle For Mayor 12:43, 7 June 2010 (BST) Here, let me return your serve ;) -- boxy talk • teh rulz 04:08 9 June 2010 (BST) VB Sorry, dude. You understand, though.--Jorm 09:35, 7 June 2010 (BST) Actually, he could say what he wanted thenceforth. I just wanted it memorable, so that it's very visible when he's looking for 'crat promotion.--Jorm 09:39, 7 June 2010 (BST) No he can't, he's not a sysop, and he's not an involved party. And even as a sysop, you can't expect to say whatever you like on the main page. Now please keep further biffo to the talk page. You can still link to it in the future for whatever you want -- boxy talk • teh rulz 09:43 7 June 2010 (BST) Respect (to you); we're done. I'm satisfied.--Jorm 09:47, 7 June 2010 (BST) I think he's talking about Yonnua. Because there's nothing I did in this little fagfest that was wrong. --         11:26, 7 June 2010 (BST) You better get the case ready now Box. Because it is absolutely preposterous that you can one little shit to force what miscellaneous comments HE wants onto HIS OWN A/VB case against the sysop's will by simply just going into a merciless editing war, and delete rulings and warn notices, and not be paid for it. It's a joke, and "just do what's not right to subdue all drama ASAP" been your attitude towards this for the last month or so. Get back in the right mindset you had when you did the job properly and stop bowing down to some fucking ignoramus. You get your cases ready and I'll get mine. Because given the proper evidence and precedents there is a much bigger chance Jorm will end up the loser out of this, not me. --         11:26, 7 June 2010 (BST) He's an involved party, and the comments were on topic, and give context to why he was so peeved. You knowingly added your 2c worth, despite not being an involved party, swearing and insulting in the process in a way you knew was inappropriate on the main VB page. Jorm simply answered, and then made it clear that he was happy for your insults to remain. As an involved party, he has that right, within reason, so as long as further douchebaggery goes on the talk page, we should allow it. If you don't like it, may I point you to A/A for resolution -- boxy talk • teh rulz 12:15 7 June 2010 (BST) Are you actually going to argue that a rant about why RPing is dead in the game is in any way relevant to that matter? Because I won't buy it. And no, I don't give a fuck whether Jorm "allows" it to be on the main page with the added bonus of his 2c, because he doesn't have control over that. He only has the "privilege" of being an "involved party" because he committed fucking VANDALISM, remember that. And being the involved party carries with it no such concessions. Don't be an idiot. I'll see how far this has to go before I consider A/A but I'd assume you'd see sense in this well beforehand. --         12:19, 7 June 2010 (BST) Revert war isn't solving anything, by lookin at RC... --Thadeous Oakley 12:11, 7 June 2010 (BST) No, it isn't, so Boxy might as well submit a case to A/VB (and myself submit one on Jorm) and let the ops decide there in a big shitstorm of drama, or just stop reverting an edit which by Boxy's own admission is fine because "DDR isn't even an involved party". I even said that it would be moved to talk in the comment. --         12:19, 7 June 2010 (BST) Well good luck, I would give my opinion, but I'm off to Uni, so you two have fun. --Thadeous Oakley 12:30, 7 June 2010 (BST) Then why didn't you do us all a favour and put it on the talk page in the first place, seeing you knew where it was supposed to go? Jorm choose to answer it before it was moved, so we can't move some of his comments and leave others that were also responding to the tone you (as a non-sysop, and uninvolved party) had already set. Your comment gives his response context, and needs to be kept -- boxy talk • teh rulz 12:35 7 June 2010 (BST) Dude, have you been here for years, or minutes? We don't need to keep an involved party's comments on the main page for shit. Never had to. There are precedents up the wahzoo, almost monthly, that prove this. I'll get some in our case, but can do so now if it'll make you change your mind on this clusterfuck. Why did I add myself to the main page when I knew it should have been on the talk page? I don't know, but since I'm not a long term abuser of the main/talk rule I often like to think I have the privilege of being able to add stuff to the main and have it moved to talk on a case by case basis without facing an A/VB case, as the comments are made. I could be wrong and if in an A/VB case it were established that I were, then I would happily stop. --         12:42, 7 June 2010 (BST) I've decided that the idea of Arbies over this matter will actually be quite fun. Let's get it on. --         12:32, 7 June 2010 (BST) Archives Location Editing Locations talk archive: Suggestions Suggestion talk archive: Moderation Moderation talk archive Editing teh Wiki Editing talk archive: General Talk General talk archive: