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Report adbots here. The log of all bans is found at Block log. The list of currently blocked users is found at Ipblocklist. This space will be cleared once a day.

Blocked by moi. –Xoid STFU! 04:24, 31 May 2006 (BST)

Xoid, next time you can go to the bot contributions page and delete all pages the bot has created (pages he only edited you might only rollback them). This kind of pages doesnt need to go through the Speedy Deletion page then. --hagnat mod 00:21, 1 June 2006 (BST)

Vandalism Report Space


See Vandal Report below. See Bad-Faith nature of said post. See Arbitration ruling. See Moderator. Warn, Moderator, Warn. See Spot run! Not sure if this page is considered "Community Property", but I would assume so since it does not belong to either of us. The initial comment was, most likely, initially created specifically for the purpose of said vandal report below. I assume they were under the mistaken notion that this page is not affected by the Arb ruling. -- Amazing 23:24, 31 May 2006 (BST)

Already has been warned (and 24hr banned for having 3 warnings) as a part of the Rasher Vandal report. --Karlsbad 00:04, 1 June 2006 (BST)
Well slap my ass and call me Seabiscuit. -- Amazing 00:46, 1 June 2006 (BST)

Black Scotty

Alterd a signed post of mine. --Technerd 18:14, 31 May 2006 (BST) Evidence

Warned.--Vista 18:19, 31 May 2006 (BST)


Rasher made a comment about Amazing's freakish gross beard here.

We all know by now that Amazing is a self-centered internet jerk that has a really gross beard. We also know that due to an arbitration ruling, Rasher cannot discuss Amazing or the relative level of grossness of his tangly, greasy beard, and this is an obvious violation of that ruling. Rasher also likened "the beard" to the tree in Evil Dead, which may be funny in reference to anyone else's beard but I think in this case is crosses the line.

Additionally, Rasher claimed that Amazing's beard is prone to "wild growth" which, given the pictures that we've seen of "the beard" is likely true; however assumptions such as these about the folicular speed of Amazing's face only serve to inflate the already legendary status of Amazing's cheeto-catcher.

I seek nothing less than a permanent ban for Rasher's beard comments. -- Rueful 15:53, 31 May 2006 (BST)

I'm looking into this.--Vista 16:04, 31 May 2006 (BST)
Yes it seems that that comment indeed covered by the arbitration case, as is yours. both get a regular warning with all the effects of such a warning, that means that Rasher is banned for a week and you are for a day.--Vista 16:27, 31 May 2006 (BST)
I believe Rueful's report itself is a bad-faith edit. -- Amazing 23:21, 31 May 2006 (BST)


What d'ya know, Amazing called it right for once. Vandalism here. –Xoid STFU! 11:25, 31 May 2006 (BST)

Seeing as the actual members of ASS had no idea about this, and the members of the Qwako are pissed (indicating that they didn't sanction the template), Cwissball will recieve a warning. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 12:15, 31 May 2006 (BST)


Vandalised the Creedy Defense Force's page here. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 22:39, 30 May 2006 (BST)

Current statistics indicate that there are only 10 members in the "Creedy Defence Force.", as opposed to the "Creedy Defense Force" with 145. I believe that it was merely a misunderstanding. –Xoid STFU! 02:06, 31 May 2006 (BST)
It was still not his place to edit a group's wiki page (outside of the NPOV section, of course) which he doesn't belong to. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 08:29, 31 May 2006 (BST)
I think you are going overboard, but that's your prerogative. –Xoid STFU! 11:26, 31 May 2006 (BST)
It's not my decision whether or not to warn Ytookay, as I'm the one who reported him. If another mod rules that it isn't vandalism, I'll drop it. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 12:13, 31 May 2006 (BST)

2 4 1 Deal

Sgt Whiskey Swiper


Xoid STFU! 14:28, 30 May 2006 (BST)

Warned. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 14:36, 30 May 2006 (BST)



Xoid STFU! 14:28, 30 May 2006 (BST)

Warned. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 14:35, 30 May 2006 (BST)


Amazing posted http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Talk:GANKBUS#Alts here, despite the arbitration ruling which forbids him from posting on any page on which "I Am an invested party". I consider myself an invested party of GANKBUS. PARTY ON, WAYNE. Rasher 19:48, 29 May 2006 (BST)

Amazing has violated the Arbitration ruling, yes. But it was an ongoing discussion between you (Gankbus members) and him. Finish any discussion you guys have with him (by removing any sections where discussions with him are present), and any arbitration ruling will be enforced if he edits your group page again. --hagnat mod 20:05, 29 May 2006 (BST)
The "ongoing discussion" ended around May 10th, Amazing decided to hop back in about 3 weeks later, well after the wikigate ruling was rendered. Your Ruling on this matter is denied hagnat. -- Rueful 20:27, 29 May 2006 (BST)
I did read the discussion there. It was not over, since MaulMachine revived it and you replied to it. And since you made comments about Amazing, in violation of the 3rd. point on the ruling of Amazing vs. Rueful, i think that we can just forget about this incident. --hagnat mod 20:34, 29 May 2006 (BST)
3. Neiter Amazing nor Ruful are to comment directly to or about each other on any page that is considered "Community Property" such as discussion pages or sugestion pages.
The ruling here says that we can't talk about each other on Community pages. GANKBUS is not a community page, it is my group page. --Rueful 22:35, 29 May 2006 (BST)
OR, i could just give Amazing his second warning, and give you your first time ban, since you both violated wikigate rulings. --hagnat mod 20:37, 29 May 2006 (BST)
May I also point out that rulings cannot be denied.--The General W! Mod 20:48, 29 May 2006 (BST)
I replied to MaulMachine AFTER Amazing started replying(check the timestamps). So I'm getting a ban for commenting on my group's talk page? --Rueful 22:35, 29 May 2006 (BST)

Hey, retard, you cant ban someone for posting on their own talk page in what is a response to an obvious violation. Rasher 00:18, 30 May 2006 (BST)

If you do anything OTHER than give amazing a warning or ban and try to ban rueful, I will report you for moderator abuse. Rasher 00:18, 30 May 2006 (BST)
You meaning hagnutRasher 00:18, 30 May 2006 (BST)
Yes; Amazing did violate arbitration and deserves a temporary(sp?) warning; he should not be commenting like he did on a Rueful/Rasher/whatever page. Give him a period of time, say a week, and if he keeps his nose clean it'll be kept off the record; but if Amazing continues to post and harrass where he shouldn't he would receive this warning and a second one. --Karlsbad 01:17, 30 May 2006 (BST)

Weird, I thought that had expired. I wounldn't have posted otherwise. Lemme read the ruling again and see why that was in my head. -- Amazing 01:18, 30 May 2006 (BST)

I see the problem. Some of the Wikigate stuff seems to have expiration dates, but this does not. (I had moved to report someone for a violation a while back, but found that Wikigate ruling had expired.) I assumed them all to have it. Anyway, yes I seem to have mistakenly broken the Arb ruling by posting on the GANKBUS talk page - But I was speaking to previosly uninvolved entity MaulMachine, who was, of course, posting personal insults. -- Amazing 01:26, 30 May 2006 (BST)
Then you should have taken it to Maul's talk page, Amazing. Warned. --Karlsbad 01:48, 30 May 2006 (BST)
Yeah, all arguement should really be on User talk pages anyway. I thought the end date applied to all rulings, but hey. Is this the temporary warning you spoke of, or no? Just curious. -- Amazing 01:51, 30 May 2006 (BST)
Eh, I would call it temporary, but it would be highly, highly unofficial. I'd say that when another mod (say someone like Conndraka or Hagnat) figures that you've been warned for long enough, that mod could clear it. --Karlsbad 02:47, 30 May 2006 (BST)
Yeah. That sounds fair. I don't claim I didn't do it, but it was based on a mistaken "end-date" notion. I'm not sure if I can remove my own comments from their page, but whoever wants to - can. -- Amazing 02:49, 30 May 2006 (BST)

Hum... yes, i didnt check the timestamps on the edits. I just follow the flow of messages in that discussion, which led to this misunderstanding. Now i see that amazing did edited your page first Rueful, and for that he must be warned. But you also made comments about him, which violates the 3rd. point on your wikigate ruling. You see, two mistakes dont make one right. Even if amazing did posted on your group talk page, you made comments about him in a discussion page. While the group ownership things makes the Gankbus your page, talk pages should deserve the same treatment as any other talk pages. --hagnat mod 02:37, 30 May 2006 (BST)

Aw, and before i forget. Much of the discussion here could be avoided if you just added your replys in a propper way, bellow any replys to the same treeshould you are replying. If you post them in the top it just leads to situations like the above where, by following the flow of messages, a user could read things wrong --hagnat mod 02:41, 30 May 2006 (BST)
I'd like some clarification. Is the Arb ruling perminent or does it have an expiration date? I'd prefer perminent, but I have the worry that another case may some day arise where I'm reporting someone else, and it'll be decided that the ruling wasn't perminent. -- Amazing 02:44, 30 May 2006 (BST)

Dark wingstalker

http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Council_of_Leaders_%28new%29&diff=prev&oldid=267327. nuff said--Admiral Ackbar U! WTF 08:33, 29 May 2006 (BST)

Warned. –Xoid STFU! 08:57, 29 May 2006 (BST)


Suspected alt of Newbienice. Vandalism: here. --Bob Hammero TW!U! 18:07, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Obvious alt=banned.--The General W! Mod 18:45, 28 May 2006 (BST)
Anyone who spells it greif should be banned anyway. :P MaulMachine U! 04:33, 29 May 2006 (BST)
Shouldn't newbienice get a warning for this too? Otherwise one could keep making alts while keeping the main safe--Admiral Ackbar U! WTF 02:51, 30 May 2006 (BST)


I know there's a section for him just below, but I'm not really sure what it's about, so I present:

Someone feel like a warn or a ban if it's appropriate please? --Bob Hammero TW!U! 18:06, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Warned. I'm going to make this his only warning as he admitted his whole purpose was to try and annoy you.--The General W! Mod 18:40, 28 May 2006 (BST)


[1] --ThunderJoe 17:35, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Wow, I linked the wrong thing. Good thing Bob got it. --ThunderJoe 18:37, 28 May 2006 (BST)


Mutli of banned user--Admiral Ackbar U! WTF 21:22, 27 May 2006 (BST)

Made before his banning. As long as he doesn't log into it and start editing, multi accounts are allowed.--Vista 21:26, 27 May 2006 (BST)
...Even when it redirects to another user's page? And I see now that that's how it's supposed to be. Eh-heh. --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 23:13, 27 May 2006 (BST)

Mattiator, AGAIN

Created this user in an obvious effort to get me in trouble for using it as my signature. Note the time difference between "A Bothan Spy"'s only contribution and Mattiator's "report" of its existence here. Blatant case of impersonation. --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 17:27, 27 May 2006 (BST)

not only have mattiator moved in bad faith when he created this account, but he also went to bob's talk page to brag about it. This is a clear case of reverse-impersonation, where a user creates an account with the same name another user uses to sign. For that, mattiator should receive his first 24h ban. --hagnat mod 17:35, 27 May 2006 (BST)


Vandalized page. Sonny Corleone WTF 14:54, 27 May 2006 (BST)

Probably newbie mistake. He added ASS to the list but removed it, probably after noticing Assault on Stupid Survivors already on the list. Probably accidentally removed the others at the same time. --Brizth mod T W! 15:24, 27 May 2006 (BST)

Legend X

Edited the Bale Mall Elite NPOV section so that "on our Enemies List located below " read "on our Enemies lies located below", even though the phrase was referncing the enemies list, and there is not even an enemies lies section. This page shows how it went down. Thanks gang -Banana Bear 19:20, 26 May 2006 (BST)

This page is not for fighting out edit wars. An edit war where I also came across vandalism made by you. Take it to arbitration as that is the place for it. I will not look kindly at further attemps to play out a edit war on the vandal banning page. Certianly not one were both parties are acting like children.--Vista 19:37, 26 May 2006 (BST)
Vista, what vandalism of mine are you referring to? do you mean a while back where I got warned for saying that I wasn't an alt of Tim Drake? This isn't me trying to attack Legend X through the talk page, its simply that that line makes no sense, its in the NPOV section, and I tried to fix it but was thwarted by X, if it happens again I'll take it to arbitration though. -Banana Bear 19:52, 26 May 2006 (BST)
this is what I meant. It's best if you do that Arbitration is meant for these cases. Vandal banning isn't. I'd be willing to take the case an an arbitrator, but not as moderator as it doesn't belong here.--Vista 19:54, 26 May 2006 (BST)
Those do hurt my credibility, but didn't hurt the page, I think they were funny. Alright, if this comes up again, to arbitration we will go. -Banana Bear 20:01, 26 May 2006 (BST)


Removed a statement of his from Codename V's talk archive page. --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 13:18, 26 May 2006 (BST)

He added it long after the page was archived and removed it the day after, probably when he noticed that it was the Talk archive not the talk page. I fail to see the vandalism--Vista W! 14:21, 26 May 2006 (BST)
Agreed, not vandalism.--The General W! Mod 16:18, 26 May 2006 (BST)


See edits on prev day suggestions. He put his stupid template there and made it look like I posted it. I am displeased --Cinnibar 01:41, 26 May 2006 (BST)

  • A quick check of his edit history shows he dropped that template on a number of other spammed suggestions in prior day suggestions as well --Cinnibar 01:48, 26 May 2006 (BST)
  • he's been warned already for the use of that template, But if any of the timestamps are later then his warning he'll recieve another one.--Vista W! 01:52, 26 May 2006 (BST)

User:Grog with a gun

http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User%3ARed_mafiya&diff=262673&oldid=260958 Vandalized this guy's page. Sonny Corleone WTF 00:06, 26 May 2006 (BST)

warned both --Grog and Antonio360--Vista W! 01:09, 26 May 2006 (BST)


For a seperate incident: blatant ignorance of the "be polite and respectful" clause of the rules of voting spam. Even if it was his suggestion, I'm doubting the picture of the dog relieving itself was in good faith. --TheTeeHeeMonster

I have moved this to a new case in order to avoid confusion. Anyway, warned.--The General W! Mod 22:13, 25 May 2006 (BST)


Not entirely sure if this counts as impersonation, but I figured better safe then sorry. He voted on this but then he changed his signature to read Keven. [2] The text-link of his signature will still link to his page, but the name displayed is obviously not his. I'll let you mods decide. - Velkrin 20:54, 25 May 2006 (BST)

I'm going to err on the side of warning the annoying idiot. Warned.--'STER-Talk-Mod 21:21, 25 May 2006 (BST)

Lucero Capell

Right here. There was a vote to remove my links (and only my links) from the main page. Vote failed. Lucero removed the links anyway because he didn't like the vote result.

Clear-cut vandalism. He was a part of the voting process and knew the result. He still moved to delete the links, knowing full well that he was not supposed to. Furthermore he discussed this on the talk page, and made no move to revert his own edits, which would have shown good faith in light of being told he was wrong.

Furthermore, it's pretty much antagonization in spite of an Arb Case in which we basicall agreed to stop bothering eachother. -- Amazing 18:22, 25 May 2006 (BST)

Wether or not the vote failed is up for debate because as far as I know only the suggestion page uses the 20 votes minimun. The arbitration case is not in effect as the relavent article timed out. I'll look into the links case. but at the moment it's good faith untill further notice.--Vista W! 18:38, 25 May 2006 (BST)
Sorry amazing, but lucero is innocent here. actually, it was my fault. I saw Lucero removing the links from the navigation page, then went to the talk page and added the 'vote failed' lines... AFTER their removal. I had some time discussing the issue with Lucero in the IRC, but got lazy (blame my flu) and forgot to add a note about it, or even having the links back. We need to discuss this a little, but as i see it, all three pools failed. --hagnat mod 19:36, 25 May 2006 (BST)
I have my doubts, as far as I can see the only place that has a 20 vote requirement is the suggestions page. but I'll catch you later about it as that has nothing to do with this report.--Vista W! 20:18, 25 May 2006 (BST)
the rule of "policies must have a minimum of 20 people vote on them before they can pass" is only valid on the suggestions page and was made especially for the suggestions page. It has no juristicion on any other part of the wiki. In fact there is no rules or history supporting votes about at all links on the main page, So all result are open to interpretation. The page is protected for know untill the tempers have stalled and edits-wars are not likely to resume. then we look at what we're going to do about it. Untill then, this subject is closed.--Vista 19:48, 26 May 2006 (BST)
Please be sure to drop me a line when this is discussed. I'd like to make sure my point is heard as well as those on the opposite side, wherever this "look at what we're going to do about it" takes place. -- Amazing 00:29, 27 May 2006 (BST)


Sweet juicy vandalism, right here. PK-day is for war, not love! --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 20:37, 23 May 2006 (BST)

Warned.--The General W! Mod 21:07, 23 May 2006 (BST)


This user has vandalised the user page of Timbob multiple times--Admiral Ackbar U!

Dont worry Rouge, since I can see this has clearly been very emotional for you I do not wish to take this any further. No need to thank me by the way. Love cpt timbob :-x —The preceding unsigned comment was added by timbob (talkcontribs) No timestamp, no linking name. Bad boy.

does Timbob wants to warn Rogue or not ? I am very in the mood of warning him, twice if possible, since he doesnt like my color choosing. MU HU HA HA</joke> --hagnat mod 01:38, 25 May 2006 (BST)


Vandalizing the DARIS page here. Sorry the report is so late, it's not exactly an active page. --Stroth MotA 17:31, 22 May 2006 (BST)

good faith--Vista 22:55, 26 May 2006 (BST)


Re-introducing of yesterdays' vandalism on the promotion page made by Rasher. link --Vista W! 23:25, 21 May 2006 (BST)

Banned for 48h. --hagnat mod 23:37, 21 May 2006 (BST)
Just as a note. Scinfaxi emailed me , and called me "a fucking banana bender", which he later apoligzed for. While i didnt like this comment, i dont blame him for it. He might really dislike me now for banning him for the second time. --hagnat mod 02:10, 22 May 2006 (BST)
That was longer than 48 hours. What are you on CP time or something? Is your conception of time event based? Why don't you go pick me a coconut?Scinfaxi 16:57, 24 May 2006 (BST)
The ban seems to last till midnight of the day on which the ban ends. Unfortunate, but outside our control it seems.--Vista W! 17:01, 24 May 2006 (BST)
Wiki autoblocks IP's of banned users. These autoblocks seem to last 24h, starting from the next time the user tries to use the wiki, no matter the length of the actual ban. Or something. --Brizth mod T W! 18:21, 24 May 2006 (BST)
Scinfaxi is wondering why he can't log in. He wants to know if he has been banned again and why. Since he can't log in, he's asked me to ask in his place.Jjames 21:54, 25 May 2006 (BST)
He hasn't been banned and he should be able to log in.--The General W! Mod 10:38, 29 May 2006 (BST)


And the last one of the bunch...I think. Sorry for not reporting them all at once, but those bastards tend to look the same at the first glance. -Craw 00:25, 21 May 2006 (BST)

Banned. --The General W! Mod 00:27, 21 May 2006 (BST)
Blé. I missed this one :( --hagnat mod 00:30, 21 May 2006 (BST)
I was in before the both of you on this one. Reverted every thing too... We're a good team today--Vista W! 00:32, 21 May 2006 (BST)
Actually the logs say that we both banned it in the same minute but you banned it just before me. Good team work.--The General W! Mod 00:37, 21 May 2006 (BST)
Yeah fun thing is hagnat was before me on the first one, you before hagnat on the second one, and I before you on the third. We couldn't have planned it better. High five!--Vista W! 00:42, 21 May 2006 (BST)


Don't forget the other Adbot. -Craw 00:21, 21 May 2006 (BST)

Banned. Edited pages reverted and/or deleted. --hagnat mod 00:23, 21 May 2006 (BST)
I had already got this one.--The General W! Mod 00:30, 21 May 2006 (BST)


Adbot. -Craw 00:09, 21 May 2006 (BST)

Blocked--Vista W! 00:12, 21 May 2006 (BST)
Banned, and all pages he created deleted. --hagnat mod 00:14, 21 May 2006 (BST)
Nice team action... look at the log, we probably hitted him both within seconds..--Vista W! 00:17, 21 May 2006 (BST)
HIGH FIVE!! --hagnat mod 00:19, 21 May 2006 (BST)


his entry in the promotion page is clearly an attack on CDF members, accusing them of being child molestors. --hagnat mod 23:54, 20 May 2006 (BST)

Bad faith edit made to start up more drama. Banned for 48 hours.--Vista W! 00:00, 21 May 2006 (BST)
Also pretty much an arb violation. -- Amazing 01:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)
Yes amazing, it was an arb violation. --hagnat mod 01:49, 21 May 2006 (BST)
Just making note. If I don't speak up when it happens, it may come up later. "You didn't say anything when he did it!" - Better safe than sorry. :P -- Amazing 01:54, 21 May 2006 (BST)


After a warning, continued to vandalize same page. http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=The_Bolsheviks&diff=254016&oldid=254012 http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=The_Bolsheviks&diff=254006&oldid=254004

-Koopy 12:36, 20 May 2006 (EST)

Warned.--Vista W! 18:08, 20 May 2006 (BST)
Incidentally you might want to know that he cleared both vandalism warnings from his talk page. So you migth want to add his warnings to vandal data--Admiral Ackbar U! WTF 22:07, 20 May 2006 (BST)
Both me and Brizth have already noted that as soon as we gave the warnings. Standard practise for precisely that reason.--Vista W! 22:27, 20 May 2006 (BST)


Vandalized the "Bolsheviks" group page.

http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=The_Bolsheviks&diff=253774&oldid=253771 http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=The_Bolsheviks&diff=253776&oldid=253774 http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=The_Bolsheviks&diff=253873&oldid=253776

-Craw 16:11, 20 May 2006 (BST)

Warned. --Brizth mod T W! 16:22, 20 May 2006 (BST)

Love Duke

For some reason, removed ASS's recruitment notice (see here), along with making a ton of other changes. I've since re-added our notice. --Bob Hammero ASSU! 01:44, 20 May 2006 (BST)

Shit! That's a lot of vandalism! --Cyberbob240CDF - U! 10:11, 20 May 2006 (BST)
No not really, He wanted to update his timestamp but reverted the page to his former edit while doing so. I'm looking in his edit history to see if it's more then just stupidaty--Vista W! 14:20, 20 May 2006 (BST)--
I ended up reverting it and messaging those who had worked on the funky version that they probably need to update their timestamps and such. I also messaged John Rove asking him to give those so affected some leeway due to that. –Xoid STFU! 14:34, 20 May 2006 (BST)

It seems that he is just an idiot. An annoying idiot maybe, but's likely good faith. I'll go talk to him to say he needs to be more careful as the next time he costs so much of all our time, he'll get a warning, no matter how good faith it is.--Vista W! 15:12, 20 May 2006 (BST)


Adbot. -Craw 17:08, 19 May 2006 (BST)

Banned. --Brizth mod T W! 18:10, 19 May 2006 (BST)


ADBOT. –Xoid STFU! 01:16, 18 May 2006 (BST)

For those not checking the ban logs; it was banned by The General around 6:35, 18 May 2006 (BST).
Funny how it stopped being a nuisance immediately after I reported it, despite it having hours to wreak havoc before it got banned. Are these things getting smarter? (Fewer edits = lower probability of someone noticing it…) –Xoid STFU! 09:52, 18 May 2006 (BST)
Yeah, I got it but I forgot to state that here.--The General W! Mod 19:01, 18 May 2006 (BST)


He has vandalized our Special Tactics And Rescue Squad wiki shortly after we killed him (we are at war with his PH clan for {PKing). We removed it from our wiki, but our members will confirm its vandalization. And if for any reason you don't believe us, I believe one look at these profiles will prove these idiots aren't above anything.

trujitron2 trujitron3 trujitron4 trujitron5 trujitron6 trujitron7 trujitron8 trujitron9

For the record, I can check in the history but it would be easier if you could provide a link to the relevent alteration. Anyway, warned.--The General W! Mod 21:40, 16 May 2006 (BST)


Okay, Here we go. My last report wasa mistake, but I'm pretty sure this is vandalism. He created the page, but it was in ST7's userspace, and it was nothing more than an offensive word. Baaaaaad Mr. Bobbins. --SirensT RR 18:16, 16 May 2006 (BST)

I'll talk to both St7 and mr bobbin--Vista W! 21:15, 16 May 2006 (BST)


spamming image all over the place

http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=The_Malton_Good_Beer_Guide&direction=prev&oldid=248331 http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=MacKie_Street&oldid=248073 http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=East_Grayside&oldid=247928

and many, many other pages, all edited to have his image at the bottom

--Stapleballs 17:52, 16 May 2006 (BST)

It's possible that this may have been a kind of RP thing: Basically the equivalent of going around town and putting up posters for an event. Basically, I don't think it was a bad-faith edit, and that he probably needs a visit from a Project Welcome member, or something. Not really my place to decide though, just my two-cents. --SirensT RR 18:35, 16 May 2006 (BST)
I'll talk to both St7 and mr bobbin--Vista W! 21:15, 16 May 2006 (BST)


Lalala - Blanking pages = Baaaad. Judging from the page history, he's probably an old vandal back from the dead. --SirensT RR 02:18, 16 May 2006 (BST)

Nevermind. I think he was simply deleting that group, as he's worked on it before, and Mpuppet reverted it thinking he was a vandal. --SirensT RR 02:21, 16 May 2006 (BST)
I think this is something for speedy delete.--Vista W! 21:37

Don D Crummitt

Left a rather nasty comment on my User page. Linkage: Here --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 17:13, 15 May 2006 (BST)

Irony, Definition; the edit summary is entitled Harassment Policy - Second Draft. Might not be worth a true warning, but is definately worth remembering next time he comes around. Scratch that, check This. Way to graduate to Troll-dom, 'tardo --Karlsbad 18:23, 15 May 2006 (BST)
Number 2
Number 3
Number 4
You tell me –Xoid STFU! 18:22, 15 May 2006 (BST)
Number 5
And again. –Xoid STFU! 18:26, 15 May 2006 (BST)
Number what, 7? I love how he acts like him calling himself a newb is going to stop us from banning him. Looks like my 24 horse is dying down the strech, don't it? --Karlsbad 18:35, 15 May 2006 (BST)

warned--Vista W! 18:41, 15 May 2006 (BST)

http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User:Vista&oldid=246853 Fucking ban him. –Xoid STFU! 18:50, 15 May 2006 (BST) It would only be his second warning, so no ban anyway. and as it's my page I should be the one reporting it, and I don't intent to. Your lust for the ban hammer must wait. But thanks for cleaning it up on my page though.--Vista W! 19:15, 15 May 2006 (BST) (discussion moved to talk page)


Instead of replying to a reasonable assertion of Wyn's, a user who he has insulted and had issues with in the past, he chose to edit the Wyndallin's reply here: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Talk:Moderation/Vandal_Banning&diff=246396&oldid=246328 While minor, I believe that it shows a greater philsophy of vandalizing the wiki and there should be another warning and possibly a public display of "learning how the heck to reply properly without coming off as an unstable prick" (personal idea) Karlsbad 13:34, 15 May 2006 (BST)

I'm pretty sure he did that in part to create drama and to see what the moderators team respone whould be. and that that is the reason why it's so minor. Next round in the drama fest. It does qualify as impersonation and as he hasn't made one edit that can be qualified as improving the wiki the last week or more he recieves another warning as it is part of patern. and is thus banned for 24 hours.--Vista W! 14:42, 15 May 2006 (BST)


http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Stanbury_Village&diff=245136&oldid=235841 http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Ridleybank&diff=245141&oldid=232805 http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Shackleville&diff=245130&oldid=237115 http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Tapton&diff=245127&oldid=235593

Vandalized four suburb pages just to place their stupid little ad. And if I'm correct a group couldn't go through all those suburbs and then down to West Grayside in the few minutes it took for him to copy and paste the message on each suburb page. Sonny Corleone 13:45, 14 May 2006 (BST)

That's not vandalism. Annoying, but not vandalism.--'STER-Talk-Mod 16:43, 14 May 2006 (BST)


Ensuring vandalism gets reported. As you can see he made a bad-faith edit of this page, probably in the hopes that I would be warned/banned by someone who didn't check his info. -- Amazing 01:47, 14 May 2006 (BST)

Due to his continual bad-faith edits here Rasher has recieved a warning as seen on the case 2 down--Vista W! 13:13, 14 May 2006 (BST)

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Delta flyer

Check it out here (it's the "Marty the Party" thing in the trophy list). What's weirdest is that I have no idea what he's even referring to. --Jimbo Bob ASS 01:00, 14 May 2006 (BST)

Second warning given. If he does it again, he'll be banned.--'STER-Talk-Mod 03:40, 14 May 2006 (BST)

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Rasher, another false report will met with a warning, regardless if it gets reported or not.--Vista W! 17:47, 13 May 2006 (BST)

You should probably move the pertinent information back to the main page instead of leaving it on the discussion page, because its not a "false report". Rasher 03:44, 14 May 2006 (BST)
Yes it is. claiming that Amazing dodged a non-excistant banning is a false report. Your continual edits here in which you persist that otherwise even when warned not to just earned you a warning.--Vista W! 13:04, 14 May 2006 (BST)

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Reason: Vandalized this page. http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Penny_Heights_Resistance_forces&diff=243128&oldid=223760 Sonny Corleone 03:35, 13 May 2006 (BST)

Adbot instabanned.--'STER-Talk-Mod 03:36, 13 May 2006 (BST)


Major vandalism on carrytheredflag's user talk page Here--Mpaturet 00:27, 13 May 2006 (BST)

He blanked the page and replaced with a whole lot of insults. Ive reverted to the last good edit. However, since i dont render verdict on vandal bannings... --Grim s-Mod 00:31, 13 May 2006 (BST)
He's warned--Grim, what are you talking about?--'STER-Talk-Mod 02:06, 13 May 2006 (BST)
Grim doesn't render verdicts on vandal cases. --SirensT RR 02:09, 13 May 2006 (BST)

Discussion moved to talk page --Vista W! 10:28, 13 May 2006 (BST)


This one's pretty straight forward. -- Amazing 00:45, 12 May 2006 (BST)

What ? Aw, i see now. Just revert it yourself for now. And, rueful, do not overwrite this picture again. I will rule on this later, have some business to do now. --hagnat mod 00:51, 12 May 2006 (BST)
After reading the arbitration rule on Wikigate - Amazing vs. Rueful, i clearly see that Rueful violated two wiki rulings. The first by vandalising an image used by a user, group or policy to promote their objectives. The second by violating the ruling on the said arbitration case. Thus, Rueful receives TWO warnings. And, allow me to question this: does you guys finally grew tired of griefing Amazing and are now trying to get banned from the wiki ? All you guys have to do is ask. --hagnat mod 02:23, 12 May 2006 (BST)

Discussion moved to talk page --Vista W! 07:52, 12 May 2006 (BST)


Follow this link for the change on my page done by xoid. It is a direct alteration of my own words, which comes under the wiki policy's 'sole ownership of user's talk page' rules. I would like to make a complaint about this unauthorized editing. He seems somewhat out of control, considering he doesn't appear to even me a mod.

Nope it doesn't come under the 'sole ownership of user's talk page' as user talk pages are mend to be used as a communication tool, the 'owner' does have extra rights over the page thats true. However your complaint in no way touches that particular rule at the moment. Your complaint comes it under the impersonation clause, and he's indeed not allowed to do that. on the otherhand seeing how you acted, you don't deserve a beauty award either, blanking pages of other users is extremely bad form, even if you had permission. I'm going to tell xoid not to do it again, but not give him a warning. And I want both of to take it more easy.--Vista W! 11:31, 10 May 2006 (BST)

Discussion moved to talkpage --Vista W!


Not sure where else to put this. Looked up a photo of me on another website and uploaded it here for the purpose of ridicule. Past Moderator statements have clearly laid out the fact that this is not allowed. -- Amazing 04:33, 10 May 2006 (BST)

as far as I can tell this is part of the case hagnat is on, I'll leave it for him. (sorry hagnat)--Vista W! 12:26, 10 May 2006 (BST)
Hum... i think everybody knows that posting another user picture here in the wiki is a capital crime. For that, Scinfaxi, you are banned for 24h and this picture removed from the wiki. --hagnat mod 00:06, 11 May 2006 (BST)
hum... hold on a sec while i think better on this ruling. --hagnat mod 00:08, 11 May 2006 (BST)
After some thinking about how i ruled in the past in Amazing vs. Lucero Capell and now, i dont see how this ruling can be wrong. In the past, Amazinf posted images from himself in this wiki, that later he removed from it. Even if those images were still available in the history, it still are pictures of him that would have been purged in the next monthly wipe. Lucero did not have rights to post then again, since it was something that amazing didnt wanted in the wiki.
Now, in Scinfaxi's case. He took the time to search and post pictures from amazing that he never uploaded here, neither gave scinfaxi autorization to post here. And he also made it in a mocking way, that i clearly said in the past that was a capital offense. This is why i am giving Scinfaxi his first ban. --hagnat mod 00:25, 11 May 2006 (BST)
Yeah, he's a jerk for pointing out how much of a fatass Amazing is. It was his talk page though, and Amazing clearly mocks Scinfaxi on his own user page. Also, did I mention Amazing has an ugly beard? Now I'm very OBVIOUSLY NOT SCINFAXI, but I do think wiki jail is taking it's toll on him. Of course, he has spent a little time photoshopping the photograph in question to make it more entertaining (and he will be hosting it off site). Earsarewaxi 18:20, 11 May 2006 (BST)
Blatant alt of Scinfaxi. Banned. Email me if you think I am mistaken.--The General W! Mod 19:08, 11 May 2006 (BST)

Discussion moved to talkpage--Vista W! 19:33, 10 May 2006 (BST)


While i strongly believe Scinfaxi shouldn't be punished for the below case, i too strongly believe it is time for him to leave this wiki. Anyone that keep track on all the Zomg Amazing Drama !!1! will find Scinfaxi helping in one way or another to further any drama already settled, if not responsable in creating them.

Looking at his user contributions page one can easily see that Scinfaxi latest edits were all related to Amazing, probably to attack or tease him. The only contribution i see was his first edits on the Crossman Groove PD location page, but this page eventually grew up to an edit war between Amazing and Scinfaxi.

For his poor behaviour in this wiki in the latest months, and his lack of will to improve the wiki, i ask this wiki community to vote him out. --hagnat mod 03:59, 10 May 2006 (BST)

Discussion moved to talkpage--Vista W! 19:35, 10 May 2006 (BST)


Made Zerger corperation a page basically existing to whine about the fact that he was zerging and got busted.--Mpaturet 02:42, 10 May 2006 (BST)

Mattiator is free to create any group he wishes. If he mantain this group, and follow the rules of the wiki, there is no reason why we should warn/ban him and delete this page. Of course, Kevan will prolly have a different opinion on this, and delete all his zerg accounts. --hagnat mod 03:33, 10 May 2006 (BST)

Discussion moved to talkpage--Vista W! 19:43, 10 May 2006 (BST)


Already warned for doing this, and was asked/told by me MANY times to stop. I'd appreciate a direct step to banning since he's obviously (from his own words) "immune" to warnings, and will never stop. -- Amazing 02:07, 10 May 2006 (BST)

Ok. here is the link, first line, the definition of vandalism: "an edit not made in a good-faith attempt to improve this wiki".. Seeing how you and amazing has a really long history of discussion and how you and him are involved in much of the drama that is somehow killing this wiki, i believe that you have no reason why to message Amazing, neither does Amazing has any reasons to message you, since probably nothing good will come out of this. I believe this should have been an arbitration decision made in the arbitration page, but, as for now, both Amazing and Scinfaxi are not allowed to message each other though their user talk pages. --hagnat mod 03:20, 10 May 2006 (BST)
Also, if you read this you will see that amazing owns any pages associated with his User: namespace. --hagnat mod 03:23, 10 May 2006 (BST)
Uhm. There's no such thing as a half-warning. -- Amazing 03:21, 10 May 2006 (BST)
Then it is a no warning. Scinfaxi just remains with his only warning that i gave him yesterday. This little edit of his is not worthy of a second warning, even though i asked him not to message you again. --hagnat mod 03:30, 10 May 2006 (BST)

Discussion moved to talkpage--Vista W! 19:50, 10 May 2006 (BST)


Posted this in clear violation of Suggestions Criterion 13: Suggestions created entirely for the purpose of satire, insult, or comedy are considered vandalism and treated appropriately by moderators. If you want to post a joke suggestion put it on the Humorous Page.Nubis NWO 01:56, 10 May 2006 (BST)

This idea is odd. It might be something made of satire, and if it this Mattiator should receive a warning, like any other who abuse the suggestion page. But, there is a chance that this is somehow a good suggestion: a suggestion page! Not for the game itself, but for the wiki. A page were people could suggest new features for the wiki, and we could vote on it. Some kind of policy voting, but for new features. That would be something i would have voted keep, even if it wasnt the right place to suggest :) --hagnat mod 03:03, 10 May 2006 (BST)
Not for satire insult or comedy. It is merely in the wrong place.--The General W! Mod 20:44, 10 May 2006 (BST)

Discussion moved to talkpage--Vista W! 20:00, 10 May 2006 (BST)



Won't stop vandalising the Crossman Defense Force page. Specifically given several warnings by tours truly, all ignored. -- Amazing 04:13, 9 May 2006 (BST)

This was removed by hagnat in what I assume was a edit conflict while the Wiki was slow. I've put it back up. – Nubis NWO 04:24, 9 May 2006 (BST)
The Ridleybank Reclamation Forces are a zombie group and since CrossmanDF is "friends" with them it is obvious that CrossmanDF is a Z-H Alliance. Sonny Corleone 12:18, 9 May 2006 (BST)
A bit of free arbitration, friends means something different then alliance. as long as there is no coordination between groups there is no alliance. I have a feeling this comes from your previous conflict about the friends partician of the CDF page, as such it is hard to see both your edits as a good faith ones. I'd advise both of you to let it go--Vista W! 12:35, 9 May 2006 (BST)
In between the editing someone told me in an IRC chat that CDF was "friends" with the RRF, which is a zombie group. So I added it. Sonny Corleone 21:13, 9 May 2006 (BST)
See, that's actually a lie - and is vandalism. Warning needed. -- Amazing 02:02, 10 May 2006 (BST)
HAHAHAHAHAHA. Have you checked their page? Specifically the part with optimus prime? We recently adopted them from Zar. He agreed, we agreed, end of story. The CDF are zombie sympathizers! OHNOES! KOS!--Mpaturet 02:16, 10 May 2006 (BST)
Forgive the over-use of the word.. but the fact that you're supporting vandalism based on a listing on the CDF page that was made before the group changed hands is, quite frankly, Amazing. :) -- Amazing 02:26, 10 May 2006 (BST)
Hell I'm pretty sure he was doing you a favor by removing the Reclamation Forces. Seeing as the Resistance Front is listed as your enemies and all.--Mpaturet 02:28, 10 May 2006 (BST)

Amazing, I apologized to you. I don't want any trouble any more. But the RRF, Ridleybank Reclamation Forces, is a zombie group. Sonny Corleone 02:35, 10 May 2006 (BST)

Here's an idea, Sonny. Start killing their members. Friends do that all the time. MaulMachine 21:24, 9 May 2006 (BST)


At it again. --Lucero Capell 00:40, 9 May 2006 (BST)
And now yet again, AFTER yet another revert. Can we please ban this fucker now? --Jimbo Bob ASS 00:59, 9 May 2006 (BST)

Refiled up here because apparently things go invisible a few inches down. I dunno, the mods are probably actually just swamped or something. Regardless, action/response of some kind would be very much appreciated. --Jimbo Bob ASS 03:59, 9 May 2006 (BST)

Sorry Jimbo. Your previous request was not forgotten. As i see it, Roscoe edited your page after receiving the warning, but he replied to Britzh after it apologizing for it. Good or bad faith edits, this user deserves a second warning. But lets Britzh rule as he finds fair, since he is the one who ruled first here. --hagnat mod 04:14, 9 May 2006 (BST)

Yeah, no hard feelings. Just started getting a touch frustrated was all. With regards to Roscoe: He may have apologized to Brizth after vandalizing our page again, but the second set of edits came AFTER he was warned. That, plus the fact that he didn't seem to feel the need to apologize to the people he actually wronged, hardly seems to indicate any kind of actual remorse. Further, the apology itself seems to be very much disingenuous. He posted that I was morbidly obese, and that he caught me masturbating to pics of Amazing. Unless he actually is the retarded 5-year-old autistic child he acts like, I don't see any way that could have been meant to be anything other than vandalism. --Jimbo Bob ASS 04:21, 9 May 2006 (BST)
When have I ever said anything to warrent such vile insult? I've never said anything similar to or about you. Take a step back and look at yourself. You're being a terrible, infantile little man. -- Amazing 04:29, 9 May 2006 (BST)
The hell? This case is about Roscoe. Get your alts mixed up, did you? --Jimbo Bob ASS 04:31, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Also, the irony in calling me a "terrible, infantile little man" in the same comment you're claiming "I've never said anything similar to or about you" is hilarious. I just saw that. --Jimbo Bob ASS 04:34, 9 May 2006 (BST)
That's what happens when you use the "Diff" link. Funny how what I said applies anyway. And yeah, that's not similar. You go beyond the realm of anything reasonable. I don't. -- Amazing 04:36, 9 May 2006 (BST)
What, moronic mistakes? Seems to be what happens to you, anyway. And while it's sweet how proud you are of your "reasonable" levels of lying and libel, I've hardly gone further than you in our little exchanges, and most certainly not in comparison to your little underling/alt (kinda hard to tell the difference!) here. --Jimbo Bob ASS 04:45, 9 May 2006 (BST)
This is where I say "link to lying and libel - clear cases, not just baloney - or shut up." Unfortunately, youll just reply again with nothing but empty bile. -- Amazing 04:49, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Started your autobiograph already, have you? Little odd that you're writing it in the second person, but whatever. And as for "lying and libel", try your description of ASS on the CDF page as well as your conduct in the Vandal cases we've leveled against you - and that's just for starters. --Jimbo Bob ASS 04:56, 9 May 2006 (BST)
If I might make a suggestion, take a step back and look at what Jimbo said, Amazing. He was not referring to you. --Lucero Capell 04:31, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Please refrain from speaking to me. -- Amazing 04:36, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Back atcha. --Jimbo Bob ASS 04:45, 9 May 2006 (BST)
I don't think I was speaking to you. And I've already made the offer that if you don't speak to or of me uncivilly, I will do the same for you. You've ignored it though, so really that "Back atcha" is pretty much false baloooognaaa. -- Amazing 04:50, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Yes, "ignored" for an amount of time measured literally in seconds. OMFG! And this case has nothing to do with you (unless of course Roscoe actually is one of your alts), so what I meant was that you should shut up and get out of here. Sorry if that wasn't clear before. --Jimbo Bob ASS 04:56, 9 May 2006 (BST)

Moderator: Sorry for being a bit late, been sleeping and all that. Warned again, if he continues he will be banned. --Brizth mod T W! 09:39, 9 May 2006 (BST)

Sleeping?! Shameful. Simply shameful. It's a sad day for the wiki when it's mods turn out to be something as weak as human.
...Er, that is to say, you really don't have anything to apologize for. With regards to the ruling: I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed. I understand you probably didn't have much leeway given the vandal banning guidelines, but I still hoped for a bit more than what amounts to a threat to at some point in the future maybe slap his wrist if he doesn't straighten up and be a good boy. I mean, the guy committed five consecutive vandalizations in what was obviously bad faith in the space of a few hours, 2 of them after being warned already on his string of vandalisms. Perhaps (in future, most likely) multiple bad-faith vandalisms could be considered seperately for the purposes of the warn-warn-BAN escalation? Or maybe even dispense with multiple warnings under special circumstances, such as when a user commits multiple vandalisms of the same page in a short time frame in bad faith (quick, guess which case I'm thinking of!). Not really a big deal, though. --Jimbo Bob ASS 09:58, 9 May 2006 (BST)
I posted someting about that on the policy discussion page but people didn't like the idea of giving mods any discretion.--The General W! Mod 21:35, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Mm. I suppose it would potentially leave it open to abuse if you left the criteria undefined, but personally I wouldn't have any trouble with it if the criteria were carefully defined and publicized, as the Speedy Deletion Criteria are. And given that I seem to have found myself in the position of co-running one of the more (most?) controversial groups in the game right now, I think that's worth something. Maybe I'll have to draw a proposal up for Policy Discussion sometime and see if people would accept the proposal if it came with predefined criteria. --Jimbo Bob ASS 21:40, 9 May 2006 (BST)
I'd lend my support to any such policy.--The General W! Mod 21:51, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Cool. I'll try not to let schoolwork and whatnot keep from remembering to write that up. --Jimbo Bob ASS 23:29, 9 May 2006 (BST)
And by the way - with regards to apologies, you've got mine for letting myself get drawn into that whole thing with Amazing. I seem to be a bit more easily provoked than I really ought to be. --Jimbo Bob ASS 10:00, 9 May 2006 (BST)


Continued insistence on placing his POV in the NPOV section. I've genuinely tried to address the controversy over Amazing's little "description" of our group in a NPOV way. If he has an issue with that (which, unsurprisingly, he does), he should try to rework the NPOV section to more accurately reflect the CDF's view on it, not to stifle dissent and present the CDF's point of view in an obviously biased manner. If you check the history, you'll find that he's now done this several times. --Jimbo Bob ASS 02:50, 9 May 2006 (BST)

Your edits were POV. I edited them to be NPOV. You Re-POVed it. I reverted. End of story. Besides You're not one to talk about not simply deleting POV edits of others. -- Amazing 02:55, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Please, please, try to point out even one single way that my edits were POV (see my reply to Mia for my other concerns). If you actually manage to find one (doubtful) I'll be more than happy to fix it. And you know as well as I do that Roscoe was just trying to be insulting. The only way that would be even roughly equivalent would be if I'd edited the CDF's NPOV section to include something along the lines of "Oh, and by the way, Amazing's a total prick". --Jimbo Bob ASS 03:31, 9 May 2006 (BST)
I read Amazing's edit. It looks fine to me. (Not that I have any say in the matter. Just an opinion) --SirensT RR 03:02, 9 May 2006 (BST)
The problem is that it fails to address adequately - or at all - ASS's response to the CDF's claim that they have enough evidence and ASS's specific response to the Jack Charlton allegation (which is, again, completely false and purposefully inflammatory). Basically, it presents the CDF's side, and the CDF's side only. That's fine in the POV section, but NPOV ought to require higher standards than that. --Jimbo Bob ASS 03:31, 9 May 2006 (BST)
I think this is now up to a Moderator to decide. Thanks. -- Amazing 03:51, 9 May 2006 (BST)
It was more a responce to your demand that further evidence be dug up and your commentary in general. -- Amazing 03:59, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Didn't realize you're an English teacher. Anyway, that's always the last ditch effort of someone with no point to make. -- Amazing 04:38, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Not everyone spends all possible time on their typing skills. Me, I pop in, type, switch tabs, and go back to what I was doing. Sorry if my spelling is consistantly full of errors. You'll have to try and survive. -- Amazing 04:45, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Yeah, you are. If I valued my time so little that I'd be willing to go over each word and check for my common misspellings, well... I'd be you. -- Amazing 05:02, 9 May 2006 (BST)
*centers telepathic abilities* Hmmm.. you are also... masturbating... elk. -- Amazing 05:15, 9 May 2006 (BST)
As usual, anything but arguing is met with complete and utter trogolodytism. Do you really think I was actually alledging you masturbate elk? No, you don't. You're just being obtuse on purpose. Guess that's what I get for trying to diffuse this IDIOCY with a joke. A lesson has been learned. McSnatherson cannot understand lame humor. -- Amazing 06:51, 9 May 2006 (BST)
I find it incredible that after all this time either side can edit a page of the other and thinks they can claim good faith edit. Do not use this page as a weapon in your drama fest you are all coming close to bad faith editing right here. New game: no more flamewars here by the both of you.--Vista W! 08:54, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Alright, you've got my apology for the flamewar. I can maintain that "I didn't start it", but I could have finished it, and I should have. This page isn't the place for it.
With regards to my original complaint, however, I still challenge anyone to show specifically how my edits were not in good faith or weren't from a neutral POV. And again, if anyone can find an example of such, I'll happily fix it. In any case, the CDF page needs an actual NPOV section, and it needs to not have Amazing blocking that from happening. If you don't want me to write it, I'd appreciate it if you'd do so. --Jimbo Bob ASS 10:05, 9 May 2006 (BST)
I know very little of the CDF but I will try to come up with a bit of text that is acceptable for both, but as I'm at work now, that'll have to wait untill later tonight--Vista W! 12:05, 9 May 2006 (BST)
I'll look forward to seeing that. I hope you'll forgive me if I'm a bit doubtful as to whether you'll be able to come up with anything that's both accurate and acceptable to Amazing, though. By way of reference, ASS'll have some major problems with anything that doesn't address the points I covered in my edits. --Jimbo Bob ASS 21:00, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Both you and amazing can have all the problems in the world with it as long as neither of you edit it, both you and amazing lost all credabilaty at npov concerning each other a long time ago. if you or amazing want things changed please ask me to do so. It'll be hard to avoid the appearence of vandalism if any of the people in this conflict do so themselves.--Vista W! 22:28, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Again, I have to take issue with your total denial of my ability to set aside my personal opinions (however negative they may be) of Amazing and the CDF. Again, if you - or anyone else - can find a specific example of my speaking from something other than a NPOV, I'd like to see it. That said, thank you for taking the time to try to broker a compromise on this. I do have issues with the section as it stands - mainly that you didn't address the concerns I raised in my edits. I should be able to get to you with a more detailed summation of what I'd like to see later today or tomorrow, but not right now. Got other stuff I need to be doing. --Jimbo Bob ASS 23:27, 9 May 2006 (BST)

Enough, take your flame war elsewhere. When one of you bothers to post a vandal report that is less than five miles long then action may be taken.--The General W! Mod 21:33, 9 May 2006 (BST)

If you'll just direct your gaze slightly upwards, you'll see that I already apologized for the flamewar and swore to end my part in it. If the fact that there's flaming in the report somehow renders you incapable of ruling on it, I personally would be more than willing to simply delete that portion of it. --Jimbo Bob ASS 21:44, 9 May 2006 (BST)
That would be appreciated. Flaming doesn't make me incapable of ruling it merely clogs up the page and makes me want to bang my head against a brick wall.--The General W! Mod 21:50, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Alright, I went ahead and deleted my portion of it. If Amazing is willing to go ahead and take his crap out too, we can remove the placeholders and clean it up completely. --Jimbo Bob ASS 23:27, 9 May 2006 (BST)
I don't think the reports themselves are any longer than you can read in a few seconds. If you want to read the ensuing drama, that doesn't really affect the case itself and your ability to understand and rule upon it. -- Amazing 03:36, 10 May 2006 (BST)


Continues to vandalize the CrossmanDF page by adding the PA Rebel Alliance to it. PARA has no alliances with groups and as one of the most active members, and sometimes leader, I made the decision to call off any alliances that Amazing may imagine that we have. We hoped he would understand our neutrality but he wishes to continue to vandalize. Link http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Crossman_Defense_Force#Friends_of_the_CDF Sonny Corleone 02:45, 9 May 2006 (BST)

It's my group's page. We consider PA Alliance a "friend". You have no say in that. More Anti-Amazing baloney with the absolute thinnest of reasoning. You're vandalizing the page by removing our POV listing of groups we consider our friends. We can put any damn group we like there. -- Amazing 02:48, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Really...add Gankbus then. Cause us PARA do not consider you allies. Sonny Corleone 02:50, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Well, since your group is associated with my creation, McZed's, I consider your group friendly by proxy. Note it says "Friends", so really - Drop the "Allies" baloney. I don't think you can vandalize your own group's page, btw. -- Amazing 02:54, 9 May 2006 (BST)
I'm almost positive someone's edit to thier own page is not vandalism, regardless of whether or not it's true. --SirensT RR 02:58, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Actually according to what you said we're not. "I think this may be the end of a beautiful business relationship. -- Amazing 07:33, 29 April 2006 (BST)" Thus the "friendship" between the two groups is null and void. Why do you want to preserve a friendship with a group that doesn't like Crossman but not care about being allied with zombies? As for vandalizing your own page. I got brought up on charges of vandalizing my Amazing Saga and Epic Battle pages. Sonny Corleone 02:59, 9 May 2006 (BST)
We at the CDF consider you our best friends. Case closed. -- Amazing 03:01, 9 May 2006 (BST)
This looks more like an Arbitration case than a Vandal case to me... – Nubis NWO 03:00, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Yes, arbitration might help you out with this, but as for vandalism, not if its on their page, they can say what they please, true or false, it can all go in their POV section. -Banana¯\(o_º)/¯Bear 03:02, 9 May 2006 (BST)
I dunno about the "Anything" part (I wouldn't say "PA Alliance is full of pedophiles!" - that doesn't belong on the Wiki) but I think we can say who we do or do not consider a 'friend' we would help out if asked, etc. -- Amazing 03:04, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Whether or not you would, I can't say, but I think that you could, it would be mean, but not clearly vandalism. -Banana¯\(o_º)/¯Bear 03:08, 9 May 2006 (BST)
In the interest of cutting off any enlongated discussion, suffice to say we simply see that issue differently, and there are things on both sides that contradict eachother as per weather or not that's true. -- Amazing 03:11, 9 May 2006 (BST)

I'll settle this right now with you. Pull PARA off your page and we'll end it. PARA has no allies and saying it does on another page is stupid. You complained about Gankbus, ASS, and the Faggots. Man up Amazing. Quit being this way. Stop trying to associate with those that do not want to associate with you. If I were you I'd try to avoid those that do not like you. Instead you start trouble. Sonny Corleone 03:15, 9 May 2006 (BST)

Trouble was started when you decided you could dictate who a group considers "Friends". It does not say we are allies. Please stop lying. - As for pulling you off the list, a request would be accepted - but I don't think "Pull it off the page or else" is something we can go with, since that sets the precident that we can be intimidated and bullied into editing our page to suit any particular person. I'll probably remove it once I consider weather or not I consider the entire group to no longer be a friend of the CDF, but as it stands you're the only person in your ranks that I've heard of that says otherwise. -- Amazing 03:23, 9 May 2006 (BST)
As current leader of PARA I hereby close down the group and make it a historical group. Problem solved. Sonny Corleone 03:25, 9 May 2006 (BST)
We love being friends with historical groups. Seriously, drop it and maybe you'll get further since I'll be less inclinded to wonder about your intentions. -- Amazing 03:31, 9 May 2006 (BST)

My intentions? As group leader I make the decisions. I spoke with Eagle, second most active member, and he agreed that we do not make alliances. Now remove it. Sonny Corleone 03:34, 9 May 2006 (BST)
We don't like you, Amazing. Really. Goomba 03:47, 9 May 2006 (BST)
We like you. So it stays. We actually really like people who don't like us. They're our greatest friends. -- Amazing 03:51, 9 May 2006 (BST)

Good. We're allying with Gankbus, the Faggots, and ASS. Then maybe send the good ol' CoC on you ingame. You should learn to grow up Amazing. Maybe half the people that hate you wouldn't so much. Sonny Corleone 03:53, 9 May 2006 (BST)

Take a step back and look at who became a total bitch over their group's name being listed as "friendly" to another group. (And I mean bitchy beyond all realms of bitchiness. Not even over an "Allies" listing, but "Friends". lol.) -- Amazing 03:53, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Being associated with you is one of the worst things that can happen to a group. We tried to nicely remain neutral but you're acting like a little girl. Sonny Corleone 03:57, 9 May 2006 (BST)
I don't know. Seems you were the demanding, inflammatory vandal to begin with. *shrug* -- Amazing 04:27, 9 May 2006 (BST)
No kidding, look what happened to us. MaulMachine 16:05, 9 May 2006 (BST)


Specific deletion of my only two entries on the main page, obviously bad faith. -- Amazing 02:42, 9 May 2006 (BST)

Well this is a commercial business you're running w/ the avatars right? then it's stupid to have them advertised for free. If everyone started posting personnal pages and such it would destroy the ship's hull Main Page--Mpaturet 02:48, 9 May 2006 (BST)

That's very true, if you can sell pictures for ten dollars on the main page, I'm going to start selling necklaces made out of that plastic thread stuff that I get intermediate school girls to make on the main page. The profiled DB might be useful though.-Banana¯\(o_º)/¯Bear 02:52, 9 May 2006 (BST)
It's a page of FREE avatars. I offer custom ones for anyone who doesn't think one of the free ones suits them. *shrug* I'll happily move the commercial aspect to another page, as I have said in the past when no one said they'd like me to. :) -- Amazing 02:59, 9 May 2006 (BST)

I already warned (personal warning, not a first or second warning|) maulmachine to avoid deleting things that are still under voting. --hagnat mod 02:55, 9 May 2006 (BST)

Since you did that after this case was filed, are we to assume you decided agains Maul's actions but do not warrent it as vandalism to delete links from the main page outside the proper process? -- Amazing 03:02, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Nope. Mods do this all the time amazing. You dont have to file a vandal report every time someone do something wrong if you can easily handle things out. --hagnat mod 03:08, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Well, ideally you'd file one on a repeat offender immediately so they could be stopped from futher abuse, and would see that they do not have the 'slack' to do such things. Though I don't disagree with your actions and appreciate them, I do disagree in that I think vandalism from vandals who have been banned/warned multiple times should be reported by whomever sees it immediately. -- Amazing 03:13, 9 May 2006 (BST)

'Repeat offender?' 'Abuse?' I acted on the wishes of the wiki. 8 people before me said they wanted it gone and the creator had not responded, I exercised my wiki rights and abilities and cleaned the trash off the front page. When pressed by a mod I apologized. It'll be gone without my help in a few days anyway. You added something to the main page without the consent of the rest of the wiki, why should I be constrained from deleting it as such? Oh no wait, I actually HAD the consent of the wiki. The active ones, anyway. MaulMachine 16:01, 9 May 2006 (BST)

Please wait until the voting is over before removing links from the main page.--The General W! Mod 21:52, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Hagnat already told me. MaulMachine 22:08, 9 May 2006 (BST)


Repeatedly posts inflammatory comments on my talk page, long after being told not to. -- Amazing 05:34, 8 May 2006 (BST)

"Amazing-Hatahz: Let's talk about how I can get you to stop bothering me, and how you can stop seeing my replies to what you say when you're bothering me.

This space is for folks to post their "Demands" as per how I can get them to leave me alone in-game or on this wiki. (or beyond)

Don't be shy, speak up below! (Please make a new headline for yourself.) "

That was taken directly from Amazing's talk page. I was unaware that wiki rules could allow a poster to ban another user from speaking on their talk page. Can I simply say "xxxxx, you can never post on my talk page and if you do it's vandalism." I have not attempted to restore my old comments or deleted information on Amazing's talk page. Didn't Amazing have a simular issue where he continually posted on another users talk page? I'd also like to point out he has not archived any of the comments I made on his page, he simply removed them. Scinfaxi 06:57, 8 May 2006 (BST)

Yes, you were asked/told MANY times not to post, your posts have been removed as such, and yet you persist with VERY insulting text. Furthermore you are committing these disgusting acts in my personal User Space. This is vandalism. -- Amazing 07:00, 8 May 2006 (BST)
Not sure if you can simply tell someone not to post on your page and it becomes vandalism if they do. This warning is also not stated at all on your page currently. Besides Amazing, you've written love letters to me in the past and I never called the cops on you. This is stupid (and by the way, so is Amazing). Scinfaxi 07:05, 8 May 2006 (BST)
Is this about the comment I made over not trusting you with kids? Now how, may I ask, is that disguisting. Explain in detail. Scinfaxi 07:07, 8 May 2006 (BST)
I'm pretty sure that if he'd been posting on your User page, you'd have a solid case, as it would actually be your personal user space, however, as it was a talk page, and as such, used for other users to talk to you, it doesn't seem to clear. I'll give you that Scinfaxi is less than polite, but then again, you and I are, as well.-Banana¯\(o_º)/¯Bear 07:08, 8 May 2006 (BST)
I'm very polite. Scinfaxi 07:34, 8 May 2006 (BST)
Warnings have been given for unwanted postings on talk user pages before, when the postings could be considered bad faith, e.a. insults, inflamatory remarks and their like when told before to stop making those remarks by the user. This could very well be comparable, normaly this whould go to arbitration, but that isn't an option here, So a moderator should intervene.--Vista W! 09:42, 8 May 2006 (BST)

Come on guys, take the drama somewhere else. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 08:28, 8 May 2006 (BST)

Why do you hate freedom Amazing? Scinfaxi 23:07, 8 May 2006 (BST)
PROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF Rasher 01:24, 9 May 2006 (BST)

Warning or Ban pls. k thnx lol gg. -- Amazing 02:33, 9 May 2006 (BST)

Warned. --hagnat mod 03:04, 9 May 2006 (BST)

Appreciated. -- Amazing 03:09, 9 May 2006 (BST)
I'm immune to warning. Also, if struck down, I can only grow more powerful. Scinfaxi 03:37, 9 May 2006 (BST)
No you are not. You have been warned and filed in vandal data. Do not edit amazing's talk page anymore. --hagnat mod 03:52, 9 May 2006 (BST)
I'm not? What? That sounds like a challenge to me hagnat! LET'S DO THIS!!!!!!!!! Scinfaxi 17:56, 9 May 2006 (BST)


Vandalized the ASS page. --Lucero Capell 04:47, 8 May 2006 (BST)

Note that this is actually two vandalisms in a row. --Bob Hammero ASS 04:49, 8 May 2006 (BST)
Third vandalism here. This guy needs to be banned. --Bob Hammero ASS 04:53, 8 May 2006 (BST)

Warned. --Brizth mod T W! 09:10, 8 May 2006 (BST)

At it again. --Lucero Capell 00:40, 9 May 2006 (BST)
And now yet again, AFTER yet another revert. Can we please ban this fucker now? --Jimbo Bob ASS 00:59, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Hello? Mods? I know you're out there. --Jimbo Bob ASS 03:37, 9 May 2006 (BST)


Just vandalized the Main Page, turning it into Gankbus. http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=235930 Sonny Corleone 03:28, 8 May 2006 (BST)

GANKBUS is apparently now a battlecry. I just want to know how this guy found out about the template...I seriously made it like 15 minutes ago to mess with rueful. edit now rueful and amazing Rasher 03:33, 8 May 2006 (BST)
Already warned. -- Odd Starter talkModW! 04:04, 8 May 2006 (BST)


He just keeps vandalising OUR page. If he wants to edit something, shouldn't you tell him to get his own? Proof:http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Imperial_War_Machine&action=history It's a name made just to vandalise our page. We just request a ban.--Duce Nauks 17:06, 7 May 2006 (BST)

He was already warned yesterday for this. --Brizth mod T W! 17:33, 7 May 2006 (BST)
This happened after my warning. Banned for 24 hours due to incesant vandalism and lack of edits other than vandalism.--The General W! Mod 20:59, 7 May 2006 (BST)

David Malfisto

Relatively minor, but he altered my user page. Can anyone please tell him such activities are unacceptable, unless you have the user's permission? Here's the link:

Click meAllStarZ 15:53, 7 May 2006 (BST)

Warned. --Brizth mod T W! 16:13, 7 May 2006 (BST)
Pulled back, seems he was acting in good faith, and we don't actually have clear, written rules forbidding editing other user's pages. --Brizth mod T W! 20:47, 7 May 2006 (BST)
Actually, we do have precident. It is accepted custom that only the user in question is allowed to edit a users userpage as it is considered to be their own property, or as close to it as one can get on the internet. There have been several people warned in the past for doing so, and thus we have a grand tradition of warning people for anything that doesnt include fixing typos or code errors, or other similiar maintenance tasks. --Grim s-Mod 00:32, 8 May 2006 (BST)

Zebulon Pike

has continually vandalized the British Military Corps wiki page over a year long period. Examples include obscene words and other inflamatory statements against the BMC. Most recently, after a warning, Zebulon openly stated that his only intent was to vandalize the wiki. This can be seen on [[3]]. Note: We believe that he has multiple accounts and use them on a regular basis, including Carl Denham. We strongly urge penal actions; it has been annoying cleaning up the mess. --SmokytheBear 13:43, 7 May 2006 (BST)

Banned for 24 hours.--The General W! Mod 22:02, 6 May 2006 (BST)


Has repeatedly edited the suburb wiki for Rhodenbank in pathetic attempts to make his little band of chumps, The_Rhodenbank_Warriors, seem more important than they are. This was just annoying, and not a big deal; however, his most recent 'edit,' in which he [decided to 'rename the suburb'] seems a bit much. I reverted this most recent change, but I suspect he's just getting warmed up. Might one of you have a word with the boy? cheers, --Bulgakov 20:30, 6 May 2006 (BST)

From what I see he's griefing the wiki. I say warn him. Saromu 21:42, 6 May 2006 (BST)
Warned.--The General W! Mod 07:21, 7 May 2006 (BST)


This peson has vandalised our page over Six times: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Imperial_War_Machine&action=history. We would like this stopped. Thank you for your time.--Duce Nauks 18:29, 6 May 2006 (BST)

Warned.--The General W! Mod 21:47, 6 May 2006 (BST)

Codename V Again

Back up to his old tricks: here. I reverted it. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 15:55, 6 May 2006 (BST)

It was done before I warned him. It has to have been done after the last warning.--The General W! Mod 16:29, 6 May 2006 (BST)
*face turns bright red* --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 16:34, 6 May 2006 (BST)
He just did it to the 4H page on a new name. Link. I reverted it. --Aiden H 4H 02:48, 7 May 2006 (BST)
I think he's had enough chances. 24 hour ban is needed. Saromu 02:54, 7 May 2006 (BST)
Banned.--The General W! Mod 07:10, 7 May 2006 (BST)
That is bullshit! The link provided above for the apparent second attempt with an apparent different name is not Codename V, and I think it's fucking ridiculous that based on the say of one man, with no evidence that either of these Aiden or Sammy characters belong to the same IP, you should ban Codename V. I know Sammy or Aiden are not psuedonyms of Codename V and frankly, you are all dumbfounding. No evidence at all! Jesus Christ! --DogSoldier JI 11:20, 10 May 2006 (BST)
First off: who are you? Secondly: What the hell are you talking about? --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 11:15, 10 May 2006 (BST)
"He just did it to the 4H page on a new name. Link. I reverted it. --Aiden H 4H 02:48, 7 May 2006 (BST)" This claims that Codename V placed the 5th of November template onto the 4H page under a new name. This is false, and it is ridiculous that he should be banned because of an unfounded speculation. --DogSoldier JI 11:20, 10 May 2006 (BST)

He shouldn't even be banned for this anyway, advertising an attack is NOT vandalism at all. What the hell? --LibrarianBrent 01:50, 13 May 2006 (BST)


For obvious reasons. http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Special:Contributions/Shayn68 -Craw 11:12, 6 May 2006 (BST)

Warned.--The General W! Mod 14:49, 7 May 2006 (BST)

The person behind...

title was The person behind Mario van Peebles, Muhammad Ali and Jesus

Quite obviously they are all created by the same person, with the goal of attacking Undeadinator. The pages will also be put up for Deletion. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 04:39, 6 May 2006 (BST)

It's Undeadinator doing it. - CthulhuFhtagn 04:43, 6 May 2006 (BST)
Is it? Oh. I withdraw this case then. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 04:45, 6 May 2006 (BST)
I say still warn him. Those pages are just annoying. Saromu 04:51, 6 May 2006 (BST)
I agree. The nonsense needs to stop. --SirensT RR 04:58, 6 May 2006 (BST)

If Undeadinator is behind this 'users' then he will get a warning. Yes, we can have some fun in this wiki, but there got to be a limit. --hagnat mod 22:45, 6 May 2006 (BST)

Unfortunately, there is no way to see who is actually behind them. I think it was probably... Grim, sure Grim did it, except for the Peeble's one, that was probably... 3 6 of CDF, yeah... -Banana¯\(o_º)/¯Bear


Vandalised Amazing's user page here. I reverted it. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 17:01, 5 May 2006 (BST)

Warned.--The General W! Mod 22:12, 5 May 2006 (BST)

Delta flyer

Vandalized the GANKBUS page. --Bob Hammero ASS 16:42, 5 May 2006 (BST)

Not sure whether to warn him or not, i'd like to here the opinions of the other mods on this one.--The General W! Mod 22:14, 5 May 2006 (BST)
As far as I'm concerned, it's the same deal as what Lewiddyion did to Amazing's page. Adding another line of insulting text to a page you're not supposed to edit. Not the first time he's done it either. --Lucero Capell 22:39, 5 May 2006 (BST)
As it's the second time he has done this, i'm going to give him a warning.--The General W! Mod 22:45, 5 May 2006 (BST)


Vandalized Suggestions. - CthulhuFhtagn 23:44, 4 May 2006 (BST)

Banned for a third time.--The General W! Mod 14:59, 7 May 2006 (BST)


Cleared the Suggestions Page here. – Nubis NWO 20:06, 4 May 2006 (BST)

Already warned. --hagnat mod 20:08, 4 May 2006 (BST)


Repaeted vandalising of group page. Link: Imperial War Machine

Zoolander name only created to vandalise page, requesting ban.--Duce Nauks 19:35, 4 May 2006 (BST)

Warned.--The General W! Mod 14:54, 7 May 2006 (BST)

Duke for ether

Wiped Amazing's arbitration case against Banana Bear (evidence here) and moved it into the Special Tactics And Rescue Squad group page (evidence here).

Also heavily vandalised the STARS page. Evidence here. There are too many edits to fully list, so just browse through the history page that link goes to. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 16:30, 4 May 2006 (BST)

EDIT: Has just reverted my revert of the STARS page. Evidence here. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 16:35, 4 May 2006 (BST)

Has also vandalised the Main Page (evidence here). Nubis reverted it. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 16:38, 4 May 2006 (BST)

Banned for 1 day for vandalising. --Brizth mod T W! 16:40, 4 May 2006 (BST)

Codename V

Consistently, constantly, and irritatingly spams the everliving heck out of every survivor group page he can find with his relentlessly stupid "Attack Ridleybank in, like, seven months" spam. Too many pages to list individually; here is the most recent set.--Jorm 10:12, 4 May 2006 (BST)

Very annoying, yes. and certianly spammy. But I haven't seen him hit any page more then once, and it is about the game. while his plan and methods are verging on the idiotic, I wouldn't consider it vandalism unless he's repeatedly hitting pages of people who didn't react to him or said no the first time. While I find him annoying as hell, I don't think he's actually breaking the rules.--Vista W! 15:32, 4 May 2006 (BST)
As i see it this is spam. And spam should not be tolerated. If he wants people to join his cause, he must use the Recruitment page, not spam all other groups talk pages. I suggest a first warning for him. Will wait another mod to comply with this. --hagnat mod 18:35, 4 May 2006 (BST)
I think an informal warning would suffice. And if he/she persists then warn/ban away! --Technerd 21:14, 4 May 2006 (BST)
The thing is, though, this cat has *already* been on the hot seat for this type of crap, back when he went around vandalizing pages (including the main page) by inserting links everywhere. He already got slapped for that, and "apologized." So I think a real, formal warning is in order.--Jorm 21:20, 4 May 2006 (BST)
Ahh never mind then. Warn away! --Technerd 21:25, 4 May 2006 (BST)

Warned.--The General W! Mod 21:38, 4 May 2006 (BST)


This user did a mayor vandalism to a group's page. I suppose that, if you think that someone must not use a name for his group, there are better ways to say it than this way. Matthewfarenheit some time before 08:30, 4 May 2006 (BST)

-Matthewfarenheit Don't forget to sign your reports by using the four ~~~~.--Vista W! 08:30, 4 May 2006 (BST)

Ops, sry =S --Matthew Fahrenheit 18:08, 4 May 2006 (BST)

Still there's no reply --Matthew Fahrenheit 05:14, 7 May 2006 (BST)

Warned.--The General W! Mod 14:55, 7 May 2006 (BST)


This user has repeatedly Vandalised pages. Evidence at - http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Final_Resistance.&action=history. It seems this name was created only for the pourpous of vandalising this page.--Duce Nauks 21:05, 3 May 2006 (BST)

Timbob is a known zerger and overall dipshit. Should be warned. Saromu 22:02, 4 May 2006 (BST)

Warned.--The General W! Mod 22:08, 4 May 2006 (BST)


See below. Repeatedly removes NPOV section from ASS page. NPOV section allowed and removal of such area is vandalism. He can edit it to be more NPOV if he feels my version is not adequate. As it stands he needs a Vandalism warning. I learned all of this through insertion of an NPOV section on my own group's page, so I can speak with experience that BobHammero should get a warning. At the very least. -- Amazing 08:46, 3 May 2006 (BST)

I belive the edits were in good faith. BobHammero seems to have been in wiki only for a week and didn't know about NPoV sections before pointed to him. As he seems to have learned his lesson, I see no reason to officially warn him. Though further removals and/or POV edits to NPoV section will be considered vandalism. --Brizth mod T W! 14:17, 3 May 2006 (BST)
Actually, just for the record, BobHammero has been longer on the wiki as one half of theasskickars--Vista W! 14:27, 3 May 2006 (BST)
Ugh, so it seems. Why everything has to be so complicated... Anyway, my decision stands, I won't be giving warning to BobHammero as he seems to have learned his lesson and has since edited the ASS page with proper NPoV section. --Brizth mod T W! 14:49, 3 May 2006 (BST)
May I ask why vandalism from a longstanding member who knew about NPOV sections is not recieving a warning? The next time such a thing happens, he'll get a 'first' warning then... assuming he doesn't get another free pass because of eventually stopping the vandalism. -- Amazing 19:55, 3 May 2006 (BST)
I belive the edits were "good faith". After being informed about editing guidelines, he restored and edited the NPoV section to be quite neutral (in my opinion). Secondly, your original NPoV was somewhat biased and could have been (and was) mistaken for vandalism. --Brizth mod T W! 22:20, 3 May 2006 (BST)
Minor note: To my knowledge he did not 'restore' it. I don't consider that to be any big deal, however. Just making a correction. -- Amazing 00:24, 4 May 2006 (BST)


Vandalized the Assault on Stupid Survivors page, adding a supposed "NPOV" section. (And continues to try to re-vandalize). --BobHammero ASS 08:40, 3 May 2006 (BST)

NPOV Sections are allowed, by any user. Section was truly non-POV, and should be edited if he does not agree. As it stands the vandalism is his removal. Watch for a new report if he does it again. -- Amazing 08:41, 3 May 2006 (BST)
Quite a reversal of opinion from when I did the same to your page. Don't get me wrong, I agree, just think it's a little funny. Makes it even funnier when you add the fact that you've been trying to come up with ways of hiding the NPOV section ("archival", wingding fonts, white text, deleting line breaks, etc.) for months. --Lucero Capell 16:12, 3 May 2006 (BST)
Edits made in a NPoV section which are not NPoV are vandalism. That having been said, I would strongly suggest you stop editing the page, and I would suggest that ASS make it NPoV before this turns into a huge dramafest. -Wyn (talk!) 08:53, 3 May 2006 (BST)
If you feel anything there was POV, feel free to make note or edit it. This is a wiki, after all. :) -- Amazing 08:56, 3 May 2006 (BST)
Excuse me while I remove my eyes with a spork. You know, I'm not sure that the wiki can handle your ego any more, Amazing. It's liable to turn into a black hole sometime soon. If you can't see that your supposed NPoV section is not, in fact, NPoV, you need to see a counselor about narcissism/egocentrism issues. -Wyn (talk!) 08:59, 3 May 2006 (BST)
Hmmm. Erm. Feel free to... point out what I said that caused you to go into an insulting rant... O_o Was it when I said anyone can edit what I put, when I said this is a wiki, or was it the smiley face...? I legitimately don't think that was warrented in the least. Furthermore... Really... I don't see what was POV about it. If you could tell me, I'd appreciate it. Seriously. -- Amazing 09:05, 3 May 2006 (BST)
The group might have originally been organized to kill you, specifically. At this point, it's irrelevant. It's not like their group is called 'The Ultimate Anti-Amazing Squad'. They've stated a purpose beyond simply killing you and the CDF. The fact that they haven't changed targets means nothing; it just means that they haven't found a target that irks them more than you. Even if it isn't narcissism, please, give up the 'they've been victimizing me in-game' spiel. They're doing it, and we know it. Look how many people care about what's going on in-game. Seriously. We only care that you're helping spread drama around the wiki, and it seems that I'm not the only one (getting) sick of it. -Wyn (talk!) 09:14, 3 May 2006 (BST)
Okay. I hear what you're saying. Stating that their initial action was against the CDF and me from the beginning though is fact and not POV. Just for future reference, that's visable in the log file, and as such really can't be considered my "Point of View". It started out that way, and I stated that. *shrug* -- Amazing 09:16, 3 May 2006 (BST)
Then use 'originally stated purpose', rather than 'one goal'. It sounds better, and is less disputable. -Wyn (talk!) 09:19, 3 May 2006 (BST)
In all honesty, with absolutely no sarcasm and no ill intent - that's what I'm saying when I tell them and whoever else.. Please go ahead and edit it if you see something that needs changing. As you can see, the ASS guys have edited it themselves now. That's perfect. It should be stated in an NPOV area what specifically this group is about since most if not all of the page is written as if their current target were the instigator/evil-doer/criminal. If a group writes everything with a tremendous leaning toward "The people we are killing are lackeys and dictators and PKers" or whatever... there needs to be an NPOV section clarifying what specifically the group truthfully and honestly (in an NPOV manner) is, and is doing. -- Amazing 09:23, 3 May 2006 (BST)

Mod: NPoV sections are indeed allowed. I see no reason to warn Amazing, although his NPoV section might have been a bit biased. --Brizth mod T W! 14:09, 3 May 2006 (BST)


Vandalised the Assault on Stupid Survivors Page. [| Evidence]--Technerd 07:01, 1 May 2006 (BST)

Warned. --Zaruthustra-Mod 07:28, 1 May 2006 (BST)

Krazy Monkey

Violating rule 13 of the suggestions page (Which is very clear on the matter):

Suggestions created entirely for the purpose of satire, insult, or comedy are considered
vandalism and treated appropriately by moderators. If you want to post a joke suggestion
put it on the Humorous Page.

Link --Grim s-Mod 19:25, 30 April 2006 (BST)

You don't have to report it here. Go ahead and warn him.--The General W! Mod 19:33, 30 April 2006 (BST)
I'm sorry, I wont do it again, I put it in the wrong place. I use firefox and had the wrong tab open. I was about to move it but Mr Grim comes in acting all Modish and tells me off for an honest mistake. Then he said my idea was shit. Krazy Monkey 19:39, 30 April 2006 (BST)
I never said your idea was shit. I said "shit like this", which is a figure of speech, even if slightly vulgar. --Grim s-Mod 19:58, 30 April 2006 (BST)
Ok, looks good faith, i'm not going to warn you. Actually, I thought your idea was quite funny. Try and take anything Grim says with a pinch of salt, he's often right but he can be a bit harsh.--The General W! Mod 19:51, 30 April 2006 (BST)
discussion moved to the talk page--Vista W! 19:27, 1 May 2006 (BST)


You know the drill. I think I know who it is, too. -- Amazing 08:18, 30 April 2006 (BST)

Idiot gave me their IP address, - by resetting my password. Houston, TX. -- Amazing 08:51, 30 April 2006 (BST)

I look on my forums and see a "Guest". Checking their IP I see it is - University of North Texas. Seems to be coming together. The timing is perfect as well. The question is... will this person come clean or do I have to post personal info again because it's directly associated with this Wiki and proving wrongdoing? I think some of us know who this is already. -- Amazing 08:54, 30 April 2006 (BST)

As of this post, have recieved 151 new password change notifications in a row. Luckily gmail makes deailing with them such a breeze that it's almost easier than if I had recieved none. -- Amazing 09:06, 30 April 2006 (BST)

Banned the IP that was resetting your password for 48 hours. I'm going to ban the account as well.--The General W! Mod 09:42, 30 April 2006 (BST)
We've only got Amazing's word that that's the guys IP. For all we know Amazng is Amazing, he never got any real pw change notifications, and that IP belongs to someone he just doesn't like. I'm not saying that because it's Amazing, I'm saying that because I'd say it to anyone in this situation. It sounds like a setup to get someone kicked off the wiki.--'STER-Talk-Mod 15:52, 30 April 2006 (BST)
I doubt he would do that, anyway, it has happened before and odd starter banned the offending IP. However, to prove that you're not lieing, send me one of the password change notifications as proof. Send them to: "the.true.general@googlemail.com".--The General W! Mod 18:02, 30 April 2006 (BST)
Guess what, STER. I'll change my gmail pass and let you log in and take a look if you want. That proposal is open to any Mod who wants to look. General, I'll send you one, I assume you don't want all of them, correct? I deleted the old ones but still have the 59 from today. -- Amazing 20:22, 30 April 2006 (BST)

I just realised that it didn't recgnise that I was blocking an ip and simply looked for a user with that name. How do I get it to ban that IP rather than treat it as a username?--The General W! Mod 18:18, 30 April 2006 (BST)

Is it just me or did someone change the name I was reporting? Could be that the character used as a "i" isn't showing up on this other computer. Anyway, I've recieved 59 more password reset e-mails. -- Amazing 20:22, 30 April 2006 (BST)
Here, General it seems you accidentally changed the name of the person I was reporting. Just a heads-up so the correct name gets blocked. -- Amazing 20:25, 30 April 2006 (BST)

Recieved another 540-something notices. Luckily Gmail puts them together as big messages for easy deletion. -- Amazing 21:19, 30 April 2006 (BST)

I banned the right guy, I noticed and went through your user page and found his real name, don't know how I managed to change the name reported though. As there have been more today i'm going to bump the accounts ban to a week.--The General W! Mod 21:26, 30 April 2006 (BST)

Appreciated. All I can say about the name is that some funky shit goes on with those characters sometimes. I've only ever seen them turned into boxes though, but it stands to reason they might totally disappear as well. -- Amazing 21:29, 30 April 2006 (BST)
  • On the subject of the vanishing letter, I suspect it's a browser issue. Either due to security or not having the correct font it may not display certain alphabets, such as Russian, due to the simplicity of replacing a letter of English with one of the substitute language. The boxing effect you mention is a common sign of the font not being installed, normally seen in Internet Explorer. Suffice to say said tactic tends to be used in phishing, and I recall something about Mozilla banning the usage of some alphabet with their browser in order to protect users. I have changed it back for the sake of clarity and clerkly. Though I suspect the browser may use the wrong letter despite using copy/paste. Velkrin 22:14, 30 April 2006 (BST)

2,040 new password change e-mails. IP -- Amazing 02:11, 1 May 2006 (BST)

Well if the IP adresses are correct, they are giving the entire state of Texas a bad name. 'course, they are from Houston, so it makes sense. -- Karlsbad 03:07, 1 May 2006 (BST)
(Pretend I inserted that obnoxious "OH SNAP!" template here.) -- Amazing 06:22, 1 May 2006 (BST)