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May 2009

User:Suicidalangel

Suicidalangel (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Editing a user's signature without reason and intentionally going against the established procedure as prescribed by policy. This case concerns only the edit to my sig page and not the subsequent contact.

The policy in question is very clear. My signature does not break any of the dictated disallowed criteria, and therefore does not break the signature policy. There is nothing destructive in my signature that required immediate action, SA's action is therefore instant vandalism. Nubis, Conn and Cheese will be through shortly to rule not vandalism shortly and save SA's ass as they have below, but every reasonable user knows that if they committed the same act it'd be vandalism. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 16:24, 31 May 2009 (BST)

lrn2bereadingplzn00b. Kthx. -- Cheese 16:33, 31 May 2009 (BST)

Not vandalism - the signature ("I") was deliberately intended to go against the spirit of our sig policy, which is basically to ensure that signatures make it easy to identify the poster, and arn't page breaking/malicious. Just because it is done in a way that can be wiki-lawyered to not break the word of the policy, doesn't mean it isn't something done in bad faith. It's entirely reasonable to revert something like this, and warn that a vandalism case may be brought if it's repeated -- boxy talkteh rulz 02:56 1 June 2009 (BST)

Not Vandalism - While I am considering the facts on the misconduct case, I don't believe this case to be vandalism because SA was simply modifying what he, and I also, deem to be a bad-faith signature edit. The signature was not constructive in identifying the poster in any way, and was most probably made for the purpose of confusing members of the community. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 12:19, 1 June 2009 (BST)


Not Vandalism because Iscariot is right.</sarcasm> Bad faith and you know it. and SA giving you a soft warning is well within his authority. If you want a real one I'm sure somebody wouldn't mind putting it up for consideration here. And by the way...the community consensus is: One should be able to ID who made a post by looking at the signature. Once again I urge a ban on all "custom" sigs (but know that will never happen) Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 00:18, 2 June 2009 (BST)

User:GSwarthout

GSwarthout (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Just a guess, but his edits to Bowring Blackwatch, namely putting members of the leadership on the KOS list, I'm guessing he shouldn't be editing that. Third contribution is NPOV on a community page. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 06:59, 29 May 2009 (BST)

I tried something a little unorthodox and searched all profiles mentioned (plus this user) through the Profile DB database. All UD profiles being labeled as PKers do in fact belong to Bowring Blackwatch, whilst the UD character called GSwarthout is with Extinction. Because of this flimsy background check, I've only reverted the edits, so until I get a confirmation from the last main contributor on the Blackwatch page, I won't be ruling yet. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:14, 29 May 2009 (BST)
Any other s'op can jump in and rule though. I just have work now, is all. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:15, 29 May 2009 (BST)

Based off of the evidence brought and searched for, I'm ruling vandalism until notification from group. Sure, assume good faith and all, but this seems more like a petty wiki assault by one of the groups enemy.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 14:59, 30 May 2009 (BST)

User:An Odd Red Cup

An Odd Red Cup (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)


He's editing another groups page, again -- boxy talkteh rulz 09:43 28 May 2009 (BST)

Not Vandalism - To be honest, I think all this guy needs now is someone to tell him exactly what he is doing wrong. He's just trying to voice his opinion and doesn't understand that the talk page is specifically used for that. It's nothing that couldn't have been said on the Black Delta talk page, which I assume is where he would have gone if he knew the rules of group page ownership, etc. Similarly, I've given him a bit of direction onto his talk page, so I'm willing to see if anything changes. I welcome any s'ops who think otherwise to pipe up though. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 10:23, 28 May 2009 (BST)

User:Suicidalangel

Suicidalangel (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Repeated striking of an justified vote, the talk page and history demonstrates the history of this. The voting rules and basic good faith says you should justify your vote. Normal users have been escalated numerous times in the past for breaching the voting rules, let's see if it really is one rule for sysops and one for everyone else shall we?

Also, someone may want to do a check on the IP for User:Robertderks so that any alt can be linked on Vandal Data should they commit a vandalism offence in the future, I find it hard to believe a new user would come to this wiki and cycle the most contentious suggestion currently in the system perfectly on the first attempt. It'll be an alt of a current user, but we'll see if they've used a proxy or not. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 02:29, 28 May 2009 (BST)

Huh. Why am I not surprised that Iscariot files the vandalism case after it's been cycled, but not when he originally says he will. Meh. But this Robertderks guy? Not me. If it's another regular user I'm wondering why they didn't just do it with their main, it's not like they'd have been escalated for it.
Also, it's repeated unstriking of an unjustified vote if you're using the diff as evidence. Learn basic fucking English, amirite? Hurry up and rule, the suggestions talk page shows my arguments as well as everyone elses. Also, if this is ruled vandalism, I'm starting a jihad against all these shittily justified votes, as they're worse than votes that lack a justification altogether.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 02:39, 28 May 2009 (BST)
You unstruck it after the deadline, votes should not be altered after that. Otherwise I could have removed my suggestion from voting, but Boxy ruled I couldn't in a vandalism case. The voting rules template is clear, unjustified votes are invalid and may be struck by any user. You are aware of the process to change this and still have not chosen to begin to alter these rules, this is your demonstration of bad faith, demanding different treatment for yourself compared to that of every other user in history. As for when I posted this case, I was not aware there was a statute of limitations on bad faith? -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 02:48, 28 May 2009 (BST)
Actually on my screen when I look at the suggestion I see this: Image:Suggtime.JPG
And this shows when I unstruck it at about 15:00.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 03:04, 28 May 2009 (BST)
If you care to check the difference I show above, you unstruck the vote at 19:01 on 27/05/09, the deadline was 18:45 on 27/05/09. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 03:10, 28 May 2009 (BST)
Image:Suggtime2.JPG. It shows 15:01 for me.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 03:15, 28 May 2009 (BST)
Last time I checked, such things in the NewSug template went off server time. Server time is based on the real world where culture, history and UD come from. Now as both of our images say 18:45, it's fair to say that 18:45 was the time in GMT that the suggestion was posted. Now of the two of us, who has identical server and local time? Me or you? -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 03:31, 28 May 2009 (BST)
Actually I'm pretty sure neither of you have local time identical to server time, since server time is GMT and doesn't do daylight saving time (the timestamps do, though). But anyway, the easiest solution is to completely disregard the timestamp on the page and look at the damn history where the two edits are in the same timezone regardless of your preferences. And what do you know, SA's edit was made over one hour after voting should've ended. --Midianian¦T¦DS¦SP¦ 08:06, 28 May 2009 (BST)
Wandalism - the bad faith comes in at the leaving the stricken vote for 10 days (after an revert war) and then unstriking it just as voting is about to end (actually already had), and the page protected -- boxy talkteh rulz 06:54 28 May 2009 (BST)

Not Vandalism My belief on the necessity of validating ones votes is on record but that is an issue entirely separate. The edit did not change the outcome nor would it have been a valid change anyway since the voting had ended. No Harm, No Foul Not Vandalism for the edit in question. Now if the self appointed lord and master of suggestions wants to make a different case on a different ground, I might consider it. Otherwise its just an edit war... Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 07:08, 28 May 2009 (BST)

Oh, and the IP for User:Robertderks comes back as a unique IP (insofar as it has never been used by another user) and is in a range of IPs provided by an internet service. (and by the way folks that's how you reveal checkuser information without violating privacy)Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 07:18, 28 May 2009 (BST)
How can one rule not vandalism on a case just because the action didn't have any repercussions regarding the suggestion at hand? This goes beyond the mere outcome of the suggestion; it is about discussing a breach of guidelines, and a foul attempt at sneaking the edit through the system at (or possibly after) the end of the voting period. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:38, 28 May 2009 (BST)
Because I beleive that vandalism MUST break both "faith" and "function" to be vandalism. And I also beleive not following guidelines is not an intrinsic act of bad faith. Finally complaining about "sneaking" an edit that absolutely no impact on the final outcome seems as petty and trite as bringing up someone on vandalism charges for changing a period to a question mark on a locked page. Against the guidelines, yes, necessary to bring vandalism or misconduct? hell no. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 16:24, 28 May 2009 (BST)

I will lay claim to editing after the voting period, but not purposefully. I looked at the suggestion page itself for the times as you can tell by my screens, and it misled me. I hadn't thought to even check the history, so on that grounds, me trying to unstrike my vote, which would have been completely valid if not for time issues, is now invalid and will promptly be re-struck.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 12:36, 28 May 2009 (BST)

Vandalism - As Boxy. Waiting until the end of the period to get the 'last word' before protecting it yourself crossed the line, and the fact you accidentally did it after the closing period is a fitting result of the risk you took by doing so. Especially for something that would never have happened if you had chosen to avoid Iscariot's games in the first place. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 03:01, 29 May 2009 (BST)

Yes, because everyone should be on the wiki 24/7 and there should be no gaps in when they post. Using the time difference as a justification is retarded. ANd please, let's give Iscariot everything he wants because he has proven that he is a clear and reasonable contributor. --– Nubis NWO 15:39, 29 May 2009 (BST)
SA, like a couple of other users, is on nearly 24/7. And I don't care about Iscariot's involvement, any more than I am dissatisfied with SA persistence against him in this case. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 16:35, 29 May 2009 (BST)
It's not that I was looking for a fight. If you'll look through some previous suggestions, I've left votes unjustified before. Iscariot just decided that day would be fun to be a hair splitter. Though I still accept my punishment, when decided.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 13:27, 29 May 2009 (BST)

Not Vandalism Assuming good faith. --– Nubis NWO 15:36, 29 May 2009 (BST)


Closure please. Do I get a warning or not?--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 13:28, 30 May 2009 (BST)

its a 2-2 split DDR and Boxy for vandalism, Nubis and myself for not. soon as a 5th sysop rules Im sure you'll get it. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 21:50, 30 May 2009 (BST)
That was more of a call to the less drama-associated ops. Seriously guys, just rule. No one will kill you if you do, nor will I be mad. Please rule soon? I hate waiting on my own cases...:/ --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 03:51, 31 May 2009 (BST)

Vandalism SA made edits to the wiki every day during the 10 day period between the beginning of this dispute and the time the suggestion ended. This smacks of final wordishness. Plus he's admitted he edited the voting after it had closed. I would encourage SA to now start his jihad against all these shittily justified votes, as they're worse than votes that lack a justification altogether. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 16:08, 31 May 2009 (BST)

Vandalism - As Ross, DDR and Boxy. It sucks but we follow the rules. Even if they are a bit crap. -- Cheese 16:20, 31 May 2009 (BST)

User:Gummy Bear

Gummy_Bear (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Spam attack, am entirely sure it's Bada Bing/Foxtrot back again.

I've countered his 321agemo picture, by replacing it.--Blake Firedancer T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T. 21:40, 27 May 2009 (BST)

This guy seems to have a bit much free time. =/ Round 4? -- Cheese 21:47, 27 May 2009 (BST)
Coming soon...--Thadeous Oakley, Europeans, don't forget to VOTE! 22:29, 27 May 2009 (BST)
Gummy bear:The Return of teh SPAM!--Orange Talk 22:34, 27 May 2009 (BST)

Just to confirm, Perma... SA got him. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 05:11, 28 May 2009 (BST)

User:Bada Bing

Bada Bing (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Check his contribs. Massive vandal spree. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 21:19, 27 May 2009 (BST)

Permabanned, almost definitely a Foxtrot alt, probably a proxy. Pages deleted, diffs reverted. Good work Team Angel! :D --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 21:25, 27 May 2009 (BST)

You might want to jump on his IP, like, right now. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 21:31, 27 May 2009 (BST)

Especially considering he's probably back under the new pseudonym of User:Gummy Bear --Blake Firedancer T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T. 21:33, 27 May 2009 (BST)

I've already banned the ips and account creation from it. He's proxying it up. Also, no need to upload images over the vandal ones. It's just easier if you leave them.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 21:40, 27 May 2009 (BST)

Oh, OK. --Blake Firedancer T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T. 21:41, 27 May 2009 (BST)

User:Foxtrot

Foxtrot (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Spamming. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 21:37, 25 May 2009 (BST)

A Helpful Little Gnome Is A Fag and I have all the time in the world, bitch, both created by him. --Pestolence(talk) 21:44, 25 May 2009 (BST)
Massive vandalism and spamming spree by looking at his contributions. He is still doing this as I type, just hand him a perma already.--Thadeous Oakley, Europeans, don't forget to VOTE! 21:48, 25 May 2009 (BST)
Ofcourse, he is claiming the use of proxies now.--Thadeous Oakley, Europeans, don't forget to VOTE! 21:49, 25 May 2009 (BST)
Not to mention his vandalism to this page. [[1]] [[2]] [[3]]. If his other edits weren't enough to get him warned/banned, these surely put him over the top. --Blake Firedancer T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T. 21:51, 25 May 2009 (BST)
The entire recentchanges page is full of it now. Just give him a permanent perma ban. --Thadeous Oakley, Europeans, don't forget to VOTE! 21:52, 25 May 2009 (BST)

OK, he seems to do it as fast as we can clean it up, so perhaps just ban him now and clean up the mess later? --Blake Firedancer T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T. 22:04, 25 May 2009 (BST)

I can't, sorry no sysops. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:04, 25 May 2009 (BST)
We only wait for a sysops, or until he stops.--Thadeous Oakley, Europeans, don't forget to VOTE! 22:05, 25 May 2009 (BST)
Well, I just edited the vandal template. I think him getting perma-banned is a sure thing now. --Blake Firedancer T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T. 22:16, 25 May 2009 (BST)

Spambit banished. Thanks for cleaning this all up. Linkthewindow  Talk  22:15, 25 May 2009 (BST)

Not a problem. Check the Speedy Del. que for a list of all the pages he made. Me and MG have been updating it. --Blake Firedancer T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T. 22:17, 25 May 2009 (BST)
Already done :D Linkthewindow  Talk  22:19, 25 May 2009 (BST)

The XMan

The XMan (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Edited the SARG page in bad faith.

And, yes, this is months old, and mustn't have been spotted at the time. Shame on you, RC lurkers :P. Linkthewindow  Talk  04:10, 17 May 2009 (BST)

Warned -- boxy talkteh rulz 07:45 17 May 2009 (BST)

User:An Odd Red Cup

An Odd Red Cup (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Created this. Connected with the case two below this. --Pestolence(talk) 01:58, 16 May 2009 (BST)

It actually looks like he made his own group to legitimately force the same message as his last vandalism edit... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 03:33, 16 May 2009 (BST)
Shameless troll material, but not vandalism. It's more a thing for arbies. Linkthewindow  Talk  03:49, 16 May 2009 (BST)
One thing that needs to be changed is the header of the page. The user needs to specify clearly that the group isn't actually Black Delta. It's a guideline somewhere in this place. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 04:03, 16 May 2009 (BST)

User:Happykook

Happykook (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Impersonation. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 07:41, 14 May 2009 (BST)

24 Hour Ban. -- Cheese 07:52, 14 May 2009 (BST)

User:An Odd Red Cup

An Odd Red Cup (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Vandalism --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 19:07, 13 May 2009 (BST)

BLACK DELTA GROUP PAGE

Somone keeps fucking with our group page, this is jhorror and i lost my fucking password (Jock Horror) and now somone is fucking with our page and we dont know who it is.... --Jhorror 19:07, 13 May 2009 (BST)

Vandalism - Warned. -- Cheese 19:28, 13 May 2009 (BST)

Turkmenbashi

Turkmenbashi (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Removing most groups from the Dulston listing. Linkthewindow  Talk  13:44, 13 May 2009 (BST)

A job for arbies, if it continues. Not vandalism -- boxy talkteh rulz 03:42 14 May 2009 (BST)

User:Dante Sterling

Dante Sterling (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Editing another user's page. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 10:31, 13 May 2009 (BST)

Not Vandalism - Simple newbie mistake. Again, I ask you to talk to the user before bringing stuff like that here. I also notice that you haven't bothered to revert the "vandalism". Either do it properly or not at all. Thank you. -- Cheese 12:09, 13 May 2009 (BST)

User:Omega314

Omega314 (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

It would appear that someone is trying to circumvent their wiki ban. Could it be User:Omega123? Lets see. Call me paranoid but when all his edits are to User:Omega123 is seems a good bet. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:56, 9 May 2009 (BST)

Permban - IPs match -- boxy talkteh rulz 15:21 9 May 2009 (BST)

User:Omega123

Omega123 (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Seems to be involved with the incident below. --Midianian¦T¦DS¦SP¦ 22:07, 7 May 2009 (BST)

Checkuser doesn't show them up as alts, but still permabanned under the three-edit rule. Linkthewindow  Talk  22:10, 7 May 2009 (BST)

User:Dragoneternal

Dragoneternal (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Constantly spamming both User:Sister Rita and M.E.R.C.Y. with inane rubbish and text blanking. Nothing of any use. I aked him to stop yesterbay. No helpful contributions. Perma anyone? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:07, 7 May 2009 (BST)

And is probably using User:Omega123 as an alternative account. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:41, 7 May 2009 (BST)
Wow, he went on a spree. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, and maybe more that I missed. I think it's hammer time. --Pestolence(talk) 21:06, 7 May 2009 (BST)
Good work pest. Keep this up and you could be a sysop. Talking of which, anyone? Permaban request? Hello? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:15, 7 May 2009 (BST)
Banhammered. Linkthewindow  Talk  21:59, 7 May 2009 (BST)

User:Imthatguy

Imthatguy (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

For these edits to another user's subpage. --Pestolence(talk) 02:59, 6 May 2009 (BST)

Vandalism - warned. He's on his last warning now. Linkthewindow  Talk  11:47, 6 May 2009 (BST)
{{Drama}}sums up my stand-point --Imthatguy 19:04, 7 May 2009 (BST)
Um, no, sorry. This isn't even close to drama. --Pestolence(talk) 20:38, 7 May 2009 (BST)

User:Happykook

Happykook (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Impersonation. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 20:28, 5 May 2009 (BST)

Vandalism. Warned. I notice you haven't bothered to revert it. Would you like chips with that? -- Cheese 21:04, 5 May 2009 (BST)
Woah, do they actually say would you like chips with that in crazy ol' Scotlan'? You guys need to americanise/ize...--xoxo 04:53, 7 May 2009 (BST)

User:DTangent

DTangent (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

For this edit to someone's signed comment on a suburb page. --Haliman - Talk 20:52, 4 May 2009 (BST)

You do realise that he puts his own signature on it, so he's not impersonating anyone at all?
The most you could try here is improper removal of a comment from a suburb page, but first you'd have to show that the original post was factual and his comment is not factual and/or POV. That's arbitration to you. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 21:23, 4 May 2009 (BST)
He has just undone your undone edit to his edit. I have now undone his edit again. Still following? On the point: He basically disagrees with what Leon wrote, however his comment's he places are pure griefing. Anyway I am fairly active tonight so I will simply keep undoing his edits until a sysops steps in.--Thadeous Oakley 21:55, 4 May 2009 (BST)
Oh yeah, just realized some people have an obsession with moving everything here to the talk page. I am actually involved here, so remove my comments and I will just put them back.--Thadeous Oakley 22:03, 4 May 2009 (BST)
Alright, thanks Thad. --Haliman - Talk 22:21, 4 May 2009 (BST)

Not vandalism - take it to arbies -- boxy talkteh rulz 22:38 4 May 2009 (BST)

However his second contribution to the page (which you didn't link to) is getting very close. Any more insults on the page will be a warning -- boxy talkteh rulz 22:42 4 May 2009 (BST)

User:DanceDanceRevolution

DanceDanceRevolution (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

I am requesting a 5 day ban. I need a small amount of time to focus on some issues. I'll be back trying my hardest soon enough. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 11:41, 4 May 2009 (BST)

Done. Linkthewindow  Talk  11:45, 4 May 2009 (BST)
WTF?????? --Imthatguy 20:21, 4 May 2009 (BST)
Happens quite often.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 22:02, 4 May 2009 (BST)
Yeah, usually when people need to break their wiki addiction for a few days and do stuff in real life. Linkthewindow  Talk  11:37, 5 May 2009 (BST)
Hey! I can quit anytime I want! DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 08:53, 9 May 2009 (BST)
lol@u--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 12:21, 9 May 2009 (BST)

User:Thescaryman

Thescaryman (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

For these edits to the Samhain Slaughter page: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Samhain_Slaughter&diff=prev&oldid=1443747 http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Samhain_Slaughter&diff=prev&oldid=1443746

Note that Thescaryman styles himself as quite the linguist and author; I was impressed by his subtle prose and cunning wordplay.

Also, I rather hope I did this in the proper format. I would be most distressed if this suddenly broke the page or is in the worng section.

--DTPraise KnowledgePK 04:54, 2 May 2009 (BST)

Vandalism - warned. Linkthewindow  Talk  05:14, 2 May 2009 (BST)