User talk:Yonnua Koponen/Archive
ArchiveThis is an archive of my talk page. 2011For fuck's sakeWhy is Britain turning into a warzone Lewis? I was looking forward to the big game at Wembley this Wednesday, now it's cancelled! But I guess you have bigger problems judging by the amount of lowlife scum that plagues the streets. Hoping the boys in blue kick their ass really, royally good. Seriously, what is the world coming too?-- Thadeous Oakley Talk 14:51, 9 August 2011 (BST) It will all be over by friday, don't worry. --Rosslessness 16:33, 9 August 2011 (BST) This is all happening because your man Clegg is too busy sticking his head up Cameron's arse to deal with the country.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:53, 9 August 2011 (BST) And here I was thinking it was a bunch of tossers robbing their own workplaces, turning up on the BBC confessing their looting and posing on twitter with the stuff they'd looted. The arab spring it aint. --Rosslessness 18:45, 9 August 2011 (BST) I thought the hack on BlackBerry was a nice touch. Srsly though one dead guy shouldn't have sparked this much outrage. Its like half of London woke up on their period on Friday. Just need to wait five days for PMS to subside. ~ 18:59, 9 August 2011 (UTC) Tottenham was that, the rest is opportunistic thuggery. Tonight with 3x the police and greater violence the cycle will be broken. Or London will arise as one with brooms. --Rosslessness 19:22, 9 August 2011 (BST) If the government were competent, this would not be happening.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:40, 9 August 2011 (BST) Le terme "nettoyer au Kärcher" est le terme qui s'impose, parce qu'il faut nettoyer cela. -- Spiderzed█ 19:43, 9 August 2011 (BST) post hoc, ergo propta hoc.--Rosslessness 19:46, 9 August 2011 (BST) I don't think even if the government was perfect they would have been able to anticipate unrest at this scale or even been able ot stop it even if they thought it was going to happen and had time to prepare. -- Rahrah has a signature that won't become obsolete. 20:41, 9 August 2011 (BST) Despite the fact that they've pretty much intentionally stirred up the hornet's nest with the anarchists over the past year? You'll notice that there were no major anarchist problems under the labour government. This is entirely a governmental problem.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:07, 9 August 2011 (BST) I echo Ross and Rory's sentiment. It's just the vermin that's plundering for personal gain and "amusement", hiding behind the facade of some guy getting killed (probably for good reason) by the police. You can't hold the government responsible, not directly anyway, since it started out as a problem of the local London police. Now it's spiraled out of control so much the government is acting, and their actions are too fresh to be really worth judging right now, though I'd say sending more police seems adequate is a good enough reaction for now by David. Maybe after everything is done they might wanna put some more attention towards the local slums of England, which is where the problems seem to originate out. I don't see how Tory is immediately to blame, since those same slums have been there the past ten years. Finally, I like to again point out that the protesters aren't very political inclined anyway. They are just anti-goverment, anti-police, anti-established order, not necessary anti-Tory. -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 21:30, 9 August 2011 (BST) Yeah, no, sorry, you're wrong.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:45, 9 August 2011 (BST) and why's that? -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 21:47, 9 August 2011 (BST) Pretty much everything you said is just factually wrong. The majority of the problem is not random opportunistic looters, it's organised groups of anarchists. The government had a massive opportunity to deal with this beforehand, and by not acting until now, they have failed. It's also the government that is to blame for pissing off the anarchist groups with nearly every decision they've made since they came in to power. The problem also isn't coming from "the local slums", it's coming from outside of the large cities, which is where many of the anarchists are surfacing from. It is absolutely because of the government that this has become such a problem.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:54, 9 August 2011 (BST) The disappointing thing is that many are stealing because they can. I mean, there's a video somewhere of a pakistani guy that was beat up. An black guy helps him up and you think he's taking him to the hospital. Meanwhile, others have gathered and while the guy is being helped up, another guy goes through his backpack, and steals something from him. The black guy just gives the "fuck it" look and walks away, while the other men head off with the thief. It's just an example of bad morals resulting from chaos and violence and shows you how shitty of a future current generations are heading to. --TheBardofAwesome 22:12, 9 August 2011 (BST) Something goes wrong -> Blame young people.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:17, 9 August 2011 (BST) It's part of that angst/rebellion shit that most "young people" go through. --TheBardofAwesome 22:20, 9 August 2011 (BST) Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers. (Aristophanes, 446–386 BC) -- Spiderzed█ 22:21, 9 August 2011 (BST) Most of the people doing this are older than 30.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:29, 9 August 2011 (BST) I don't buy that. How can it be solely anarchists when what we see on the streets has nothing to do with an ideology? Maybe on the first day there were some demonstrations, but it's been looting and vandalism ever since. Second, how can it be from outside the large cities, when it's the same large cities that are on fire? Seriously, everything points out that it originates from within the cities itself, and mostly from the bad parts of town. I'm not seeing large group of youth taking the train from the countryside every night. I really wouldn't know about actions of the government against anarchists and how it relates to this mess. -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 22:32, 9 August 2011 (BST) Sorry, but then you know absolutely nothing about what's going on. This has been almost entirely non-local anarchists causing problems. It has everything to do with the anarchists raging at the police and government and absolutely nothing to do with youths. Living in a big city that has previously had massive riots, where it was a local issue which led to external anarchists coming in and looting and causing mayhem, I know what's happening. It has nothing to do with angry youths.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:42, 9 August 2011 (BST) I'm just going by what I'm reading and seeing from every major news-source. -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 13:18, 10 August 2011 (BST) I'm just going by what's happening in real life.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:36, 10 August 2011 (BST) That wasn't a sneer towards you but a statement. I obviously don't live in the UK, so I'm basing my opinion on that, not on first-hand experience. -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 17:06, 10 August 2011 (BST) I'm not trying to be rude either. :/ Just tired of everybody blaming the wrong people for this. :p Friends again?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:53, 10 August 2011 (BST) In retrospect, I'm on the same level as Thadeous. I don't live in the UK and since I only know about the rioting from youtube videos and the news, I was misinformed. I'm sorry for my stupidity Yonnua. Friends? --TheBardofAwesome 20:03, 10 August 2011 (BST) I don't like you. Leave.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:21, 10 August 2011 (BST) <3 <3. I still ain't convinced though, although I'm sure we can continue this civil discussion. (I'll be back in two days after a short trip) -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 21:45, 10 August 2011 (BST) FUCK THA POLICE FUCK FUCK FUCK THA POLICE -- ϑanceϑanceℜevolution 23:49, 9 August 2011 (BST) +1, Thad fails +2 00:07, 10 August 2011 (BST) What are you talking about?-- Thadeous Oakley Talk 13:18, 10 August 2011 (BST) Why not continue this discussion on my talk page? Its easier to read, and isnt ridiculously tiny. --Rosslessness 08:11, 10 August 2011 (BST) that's what she said.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 08:53, 10 August 2011 (BST) i bet you hear that all the time yon--User:Sexualharrison21:40, 10 August 2011 (bst) In all fairness, Ross's right :P. Any comment with more than two replies ends in a clusterfuck.-- Thadeous Oakley Talk 21:45, 10 August 2011 (BST) dw, there probably won't be too many more long conversations on this talk page. :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:24, 10 August 2011 (BST) Ross' you fool. For goodness sakes. --Rosslessness 22:28, 10 August 2011 (BST) I'm just here to make this long conversation even longer. I think I would have succeeded if my sig still had all those advertisements on it. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:51, 10 August 2011 (BST)
I now have this odd feeling of deja vu... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:58, 10 August 2011 (BST) You raise an excellent point axe hack. Here, have a cookie.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:53, 10 August 2011 (BST)
*Takes the cookie* Can I get pizza with that? Oh, and maybe a large Pepsi? And yes, I would also like fries with that. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 00:34, 11 August 2011 (BST) No. Now stop harassing me or I'll text-wall this shit. You wouldn't like text-walls at this page width. >:D --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 00:38, 11 August 2011 (BST) Last year was my page we were trying to break. This year, it shall be your page. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 00:50, 11 August 2011 (BST) Don't worry, if worst comes to worst, I still have that message at the top of my page reserving the right to replace sigs with blank ones. :) --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 01:07, 11 August 2011 (BST) We're still gonna go break this page. ;P --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 01:13, 11 August 2011 (BST) I'd like to see you try....--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 01:18, 11 August 2011 (BST) You all failed at breaking my page 'cause I didn't specify the width in the coding. But your page, Yon. You have a width specified. Your page just might be easier to break than mine. And this last sentence here is to add even more length to my comment, so just ignore this last sentence that I'm adding right here. OK, I lied. This is the last sentence. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 01:26, 11 August 2011 (BST) It'll just disappear outside the confines of the box.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 01:54, 11 August 2011 (BST) We'll break something eventually. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 02:01, 11 August 2011 (BST) The only thing that shall be broken is you, you weak little man!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 02:02, 11 August 2011 (BST) We'll see who's weak when I open up an Asian can of whoop-ass on ya! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 02:14, 11 August 2011 (BST) Its only a matter of time. Here's a template to start the clock!
Oh my god, we made the sideways scroll-bars appear! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 03:39, 11 August 2011 (BST) It's times like this when I'm glad Yon's talk doesn't work on all browsers. ~ 04:06, 11 August 2011 (UTC) We're still gonna attempt to break his page. ;P --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 04:16, 11 August 2011 (BST) Uuuuuuuuggghhh this is horrible... -- ϑanceϑanceℜevolution 07:50, 11 August 2011 (BST) What browser are you using Vapor? O.o Because if it's internet explorer, then it deserves to be broken.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 10:46, 11 August 2011 (BST) Dolphin. There are no scroll bars. It's no big deal. There are plent of things on the wiki that don't work well on my mobiles. Shame on you for thinking I would use IE, though. ~ 15:58, 11 August 2011 (UTC) Oh, I'm aware of mobile browser issues with it, I just don't care about them. :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:15, 11 August 2011 (BST) I read from an unreliable, false and hilarious source that IE users have lower IQs. Completely logical, no? -- ϑanceϑanceℜevolution 10:56, 11 August 2011 (BST) Obvo. My IQ went up 100 points when I started using chrome.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:02, 11 August 2011 (BST) So... You're IQ is 110 then? Oh fucking SNAP! I was gonna go for a "thad must still be using IE" joke but my heart wasn't in it and this one was better! Zingtastic RIGHT? -- ϑanceϑanceℜevolution 11:33, 11 August 2011 (BST) I know what would give this page a run for its money! Substituting my old userpage with that huge image i used for a border on here. But then I'd feel like I'm cheating.. Axehack can do it then! :D 12:28, 11 August 2011 (BST) No, bro, I said I gained 100, not lost 100. It's 310 now.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 12:40, 11 August 2011 (BST) ...well played. -- ϑanceϑanceℜevolution 14:11, 11 August 2011 (BST) Indeed.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 15:55, 11 August 2011 (BST) Why oh why did we reset the colon count? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 17:42, 11 August 2011 (BST) Just wait for what's about to happen...--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:43, 11 August 2011 (BST) Person who doesn't know how to moveJohn clutch 01:32, 18 June 2011 (BST) thanks. I had know idea how to move it, LOL Irony-- RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 16:42, 25 February 2011 (UTC) First!--•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 16:04, 25 February 2011 (UTC) Still Alive--Thadeous Oakley Talk 16:58, 25 February 2011 (UTC) 4thand its not july --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 19:00, 25 February 2011 (UTC) BetavilleHey. Do you by any chance remember a very old suggestion called 'Betaville'?--—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Subsist (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.
yeahyeahyeahBut what is there to have a picture of? There's not really much which encapsulates me... -- Rahrah is pumped that he's going to lose YET ANOTHER Manhunt. 23:28, 12 March 2011 (UTC) Axe Hack's Manhunt 4This is a reminder to you and all the other contestants that AHMH4 begins in exactly one week. Please be in the playing area before the competition begins. Good luck, and happy hunting! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 01:24, 13 March 2011 (UTC) Hello thereSorry for being so late in telling, but thank you for restoring the content on my page last year. Somebody must not like me...bummer. Oh well...can't revive 'em all. --TheBardofAwesome 06:06, 27 March 2011 (BST) ? about VBwhy is the users i add a different color red that everybody else? i'm using the same code?-- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking bitch 14:11 1 April 2011 (UTC)
RedRumNope, never idled in their channel, never visit, not a member. :P --Karekmaps?! 23:12, 2 April 2011 (BST)
DHPD/The DeadThanks for reverting the vandalism to our page overnight. We seem to have woken up the Dead so I expect there may well be more in future :( but we'll see how it pans out before getting too excited! Purple Cat ~ DHPD 09:30, 3 April 2011 (BST)
A/VB/BI'd actually already reported them above :p--Karekmaps?! 23:06, 11 April 2011 (BST)
Bad faithYou seem to be editing in bad faith, since you're removing content and removing my comments requesting discussion on the issue. Please understand that this is a wiki and that you do not have absolute authority over the content here. Sincerely, I WARNED YOU ABOUT TEMPLATES BRO, Esq. --甘いノーム愛感覚的の私の型板!!! 01:23, 20 April 2011 (BST)
Something HonoUrable
We had a vote, and decided that you deserved the right to wear this template proudly at the top of your userpage. We don't give people sugh an honor lightly, but I personally recommended you to the Something Awful Forums Awards and Prizes department after viewing your valiant defense of this wiki against vandalism. Congratulations, and keep up the great work.--ебут этом гомосексуальные земля́, ebut ėtom gomoseksual'nye zemlя́ ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||Retarded things go here --> 2 3 4 User:MisterGame 01:38, 20 April 2011 (BST)
Wiki updateAn answer to your question.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 13:42, 21 April 2011 (BST) Brit vs Aus sysops
As far as I know, we currently have 3 Australian sysops: myself, boxy, and DDR. Excluding Kevan and Urbandead (), how many Brits do we have? ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 15:48, 27 April 2011 (BST)
Well...The 'random revive policy' section you'd changed was pretty purposeful, but given the overall meaning of the page I'll let your edit stick :P --Ash | T | яя | 18:44, 27 April 2011 (BST)
You tooFuck go read User talk:MisterGame. Christ people, it's called User Contributions, it's in the toolbox to the left of the screen and very easy to see.--Karekmaps 2.0?! 22:59, 9 May 2011 (BST)
ManhuntingtonI liked the idea of Pac-Manhunt so I made a mock playing field. I don't mind making some more templates but I don't really want to act as a head organizer. Wiki time is precious these days and I've got RO2 to plan in another couple of months. Care to take the reigns? ~ 22:19, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
ManhuntDon't worry. I'm launching AHMH5 as soon as my WiFi stops acting up and when I'm certain it won't act up anymore. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 03:35, 27 May 2011 (BST) SA's HeaderHAPPY NOW?--||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 16:07, 3 June 2011 (BST) SigI was mildly confused at first how to comment here, I might steal some of the code later. ;) But yeah I have a minor case of OCD for coding/spelling stuff(by minor I mean I will edit without warning..I should steal that template Aichon has) and I only noticed yours because it displays as text. In either case glad your not offended :) 21:21, 9 June 2011 (BST)
FUCK U!IM COMING 4 YA! :P also where did you get 23 from? at least a 1/4 those were ones i spotted. tsk tsk.--User:Sexualharrison14:52, 15 June 2011 (bst)
ownershipOwnership of pages is derived here. Just thought that would clear up any confusion you might have on the subject. Groups own group pages. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 02:13, 20 June 2011 (BST)
botty?does this seem botty to you? the correction makes me think it's a real person. still it's just advertisements for crap.--User:Sexualharrison18:09, 20 June 2011 (bst)
Massive pluckerEd's Eyebrows? --Rosslessness 22:35, 7 July 2011 (BST)
AttentionPlease stop posting useless and unproductive comments to administrative pages, especially when all you are doing is shitting up another user's bid. inb4 “Thank you for your input.” ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 22:51, 8 July 2011 (BST)
...Remember not to get too caught up in others silly antics, as fun as it may be, it's not worth it in the long run. -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 23:49, 8 July 2011 (BST)
Um...You signed twice in this edit, then said this. Silly rabbit. 14:55, 19 July 2011 (BST)
...How the hell do I get the DA forums to work for me? And where is the place for General UD-related discussions? O.o --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 03:29, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
Natural Po-liceI know how you like historical american urban dead clones. Want to come run the New York Police Department with Me? No one else is doing it and you can shoot all the gang members you wish. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:24, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
examsWhat exams are you doing at the moment--TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 16:40, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Oh yeahI need to re-learn things. And learn to use the preview button... But thankyou. :3 -- Rahrah is pumped that he's going to lose another Manhunt. 19:31, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Got any Battle Row AP?--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:58, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Policy ProposalI've created a formal policy to propose, here: Unbiased Group Listings. If you could go take a look, clean it up and add anything you feel needs to be done, please do. I've asked Thadeous to help too, so hopefully your combined wiki knowledge can overcome my inept-ness.--tyx94 20:07, 10 February 2011 (UTC) Yochatango me. ~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 23:39, 13 February 2011 (UTC) Case is pretty much set thanks to RHO. I'm unsure about Vapor, but I dare to put money on Boxy's vote. I swear I thought this case was open and shut though :/ --Thadeous Oakley Talk 23:52, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Part of the problem is the community becoming so small. Already the majority of active community seems to turn into sysops. I'm also afraid where sysops fights lead us. More re-evualtions? Maybe. But generally speaking, if it happens more it gets less attention, less people may particpate in re-evualations, and it may lead to the sysops actually re-evaluate themselves on their own. Then crat power. If sysops conflicts increase, then it will be harder for Crats to remain impartial and it will only be a matter of time before the accusastion of bias is made. Not saying the current crats are biased, there probably the best couple we have for the positions. Just saying, if you're implementing more re-evualtions then please review the influence and power crats have.--Thadeous Oakley Talk 13:16, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Hotspot SpawningHey I saw you were also interested in trying out Ross's Spawning hotspot idea. Take a look at Pegton. There are two clusters. One is a cluster of hospitals surrounding Norton Square Railway Station and the other is a cluster of PDs surrounding Bunt Place School. Pegton has no listed Zombie or Hostile groups. It's close to Fort Creedy and Mitchem Mall, and Norton Square Railway Station is also within 3AP of all other TRPs (except mall). I think it's prime for a new spawning centric group. Want to give it a shot? ~ 16:45, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Of courseIt refers to pornography, defined as an image "of such a nature that it must reasonably be assumed to have been produced solely or principally for the purpose of sexual arousal" Surely the goatse image is produced surely for shock value? Hark at me wikilawyering. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:08, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
RhodenbankHey! I noticed you were posting about updating the groups. We have a group of about 8 zeds that live and work in Rhodenbank all year round. We are called the Brain Curators. If you could add us a zombie group in Rhodenbank it would be greatly appreciated! Thank you :) -BrainBiter Da Mighty it was meI claim responsibility to that intrusion--TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 17:41, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
WenchDA Forum. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:24, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
skadooshi have no idea.. just bored.. thats all.----sexualharrison ¯\()/¯ 02:34, 3 January 2011 (UTC) PleaseI am Izumi of the Lockettside Valkyries, nothing more, nothing less. And I am no vandal. Please just leave me alone, I have no desire for trouble nor publicity, simply access to my group page without having to hide under a false name, which is confusing to new members. That whole business with Grim S seems to have finally blown over enough for me to reveal myself, so I ask that you not bring me any unwanted attention...I mean its not like I'm hiding anymore, anyway... Izumi of Lockettside 06:40, 3 January 2011 (UTC) Vandal pagesIts Janurary 2011 now, bro. ~ 21:18, 3 January 2011 (UTC) ...My sig will never be allowed to leave this page, no matter how many times you archive! >=D --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:09, 3 January 2011 (UTC) Switch RedirectTry the redirect on the outside of the switch, but the link on the inside. I think that might work.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:03, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
CongratulationsWith your successful re-evaluation! Also, I still owned you something:
--Thadeous Oakley Talk 15:00, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
Cake!Someone deserves a little cake today! A cake with "Happy Birthday" written in frosting...Mmmm...Frosting...Well, since I'm a little tight on cash, some leftover cake from Michaleson should do the trick. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 19:27, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
Gefeliciteerd :) --Thadeous Oakley Talk 21:23, 17 January 2011 (UTC) Thank you to everybody above. :D --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:53, 17 January 2011 (UTC) |