Suggestion:20070612 Knife change

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20070612 Knife change

Jayke 04:57, 12 June 2007 (BST)

Suggestion type
Change knife to K-bar

Damage	3 points
Base accuracy	20%
Knife Combat accuracy	50%
Encumbrance	5%
Locations	Mall Hardware Stores (4%/7%), Junkyards (1%), Fort Infirmaries (6%), Schools (1%), Pubs (2%), Motels (1%), Mall Sports Stores(4%)

Suggestion scope
It applies to survivors who have a knife with them.

Suggestion description
The K-bar is the military hand to hand weapon of choice. I just thought it would be nice to have a military weapon in the military skill class. I think this will add a more real life point of view to this game.

Please judge with constructive critcism. It will be gladly accepted.

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Keep Votes

Kill Votes

Kill- too much damage and destroys fire axe. Unsigned vote struck -- boxy ^{T L ZS Nuts2U DA} 09:52, 25 June 2007 (BST)

1. Kill - nerfs fire axe. balance of survivor's melee weapons shouldn't be revisioned --Duke Garland_T^{LCD SSZ} 06:54, 12 June 2007 (BST)
2. Kill Really not needed. There's enough melee weapons, and if you boost them up too much then people will feel that you've damaged the effectiveness of guns. It'd be bloody hard to get a firearm suggestion through, but a melee weapon? Basically If it's low-powered people will vote that it's not needed, if it's overpowered then people will vote that it compromises zombies too much. If you want my advice, try coming up with suggestions that have nothing to do with weapons. Much more likely ot get through, and to be honest the actual fighting in the game is very much a secondary concern for people.--Seventythree 07:46, 12 June 2007 (BST)
3. The knife don't need to be boosted, it's fine the way it is. I don't care for the idea of changing all knifes to KA-BARs either. I say just let everyone use there imagination, when it comes to what kind of knife there holding. --Sonofagun18 09:47, 12 June 2007 (BST)
4. Kill You wan't zombie claws become a zombie, otherwise be happy with your guns. --karek 11:25, 12 June 2007 (BST)
5. Kill - Badly unbalanced. Average damage of 1.5 per AP with no ammo searching and same / fewer skills as the fire ax (which has higher encumbrance). The knife is the military close combat weapon of choice not because it is deadly, but because it is light and has multiple uses. The real military wouldn't in general want to use ANY hth weapon if they could avoid it, so they settled on one that lets them carry more of what they DO want to use. --Seb_Wiers Imagine 14:39, 12 June 2007 (BST)
6. Kill - It's like an uber-axe. Nyet... Bad... --Charley C. 16:09, 12 June 2007 (BST)
7. Kill - Nerfs the fire axe. Perhaps dropping it down to 2 damage and leaving everything else the same is better? --^T 16:34, 12 June 2007 (BST)
8. Kill - As everyone above. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 22:00, 12 June 2007 (BST)
9. Kill - Did you know? That knives are actually better for destroying generators than axes! --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:10, 12 June 2007 (BST)
10. Kill - Funnily enough, I like my knife to be weak, accurate and balanced. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 00:07, 13 June 2007 (BST)
11. Kill - I'd rather someone beef up the Fencing Foil first.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 04:36, 13 June 2007 (BST)
12. Kill NO. This would overpower the axe and would give survivors the advantage of the zombies. That is to say, powerful weapon with no reload. Overpowering. --Secruss 05:02, 13 June 2007 (BST)
13. Change Make it ONLY available in forts, and keep normal knives... and I'd like it. Nalikill 04:04, 15 June 2007 (BST)
14. Kill - Knives are shorter than the fire axe in reality. And the fire axe are more blunt than the ordinary knife. --JudeMaverick ^{Talk +1 Jobs} 07:01, 15 June 2007 (BST)
15. Kill Strange how a weak knife can take destroy a genny better than a sturdy axe. --User:Axe27/Sig 22:38
16. Kill - Makes the knife as powerful than the axe, but as the knife has a higher accuracy, this nerfs the axe - Bad. armareum 00:33, 16 June 2007 (BST)
17. Kill - I'm thinking of spamming anything which contains the word "military" or "weapon of choice" --Gene Splicer 13:20, 16 June 2007 (BST)
18. Kill - Fire axes are already here. If you want to power them up, do so. - Terra 23:17, 22 June 2007 (BST)
19. Kill - as others.-- Vista  +1  10:27, 23 June 2007 (BST)

Spam/Dupe Votes

1. Spam Don't make knifes better than axes. - BzAli 11:10, 12 June 2007 (BST)
2. all this does is make axes obsolete.--Wee Sonny MacGregor 01:53, 15 June 2007 (BST)
3. Spam — As MacGregor. --Anotherpongo 18:38, 15 June 2007 (BST)