Suggestion:20070830 Lighter

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20070830 Lighter

Dauntasa 23:23, 30 August 2007 (BST)

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Survivors Suggestion description
My suggestion is for a new item, the lighter to be put into the game. When used inside an unruined building it would automaticly allow you to search the building one time with the same bonus as searching a powered building (Because the reason searhing a powered building is easier is because the lights are on). It would only have one use. It would be found in junk yards wastelands and schools at 1%.

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Keep Votes

1. sure - but people should be able to see it, You see a flicker of light in the X building. =doc crook 00:02, 31 August 2007 (BST)
2. Keep ...And I'm free as a bird now/And this bird, you cannot change...Nalikill 04:08, 31 August 2007 (BST)

Kill Votes

1. Kill/Change It would be a huge waste of AP, It should have unlimited uses, But be easy to find. --Kaynex 03:22, 31 August 2007 (BST)
2. Kill - Unrealistic. Lighters are not really bright enough to do much in the way of serious searching. --Pgunn 05:51, 31 August 2007 (BST)
3. Kill - I'm pretty sure giving people a personal generator is a bad idea. --Bahhab 07:36, 31 August 2007 (BST)
4. Kill/Change - needs tweaking --~~~~_T^''' 10:41, 31 August 2007 (BST)
5. Kill - Lighters aren't that bright. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 10:48, 31 August 2007 (BST)
6. Kill - Candles would make more sense.--Seventythree 12:05, 31 August 2007 (BST)
7. Kill - As all of the above voters. Seventythree is right, try playing around with candles instead of a lighter. Candles can potentially make a great deal more light than a lighter. --Hhal 16:30, 31 August 2007 (BST)
8. Kill/Change - As Seventythree. Besides, 1% chance of finding it and only one use makes it useless. Consider a change and I will vote keep. --Abi79 ^AB 16:57, 31 August 2007 (BST)
9. Kill - I can tell you from experience that if your eyes are adjusted to the dark, a lighter is a HUGE help in seeing your way around and finding stuff. But... the suggestion is such a weak effect that it's practically a survivor nerf! ;P ... Flashlights make more sense... --WanYao 17:28, 31 August 2007 (BST)
   • Flashlights would be pretty rocking. Neat idea! --Pgunn 21:17, 31 August 2007 (BST)

   It is a good idea, I'd like to see it, but it would need to be carefully thought out as similar ideas have failed before. -- Pavluk 23:10, 31 August 2007 (BST)

10. Kill - Mheh.-- Vista  +1  12:59, 4 September 2007 (BST)
11. Flashlight This should be flashlight, and have major changes. BoboTalkClown 23:51, 4 September 2007 (BST)
12. Change - if you're intent on keeping it single use, make it a match instead. A flashlight with X uses, then you must go to a powered building to recharge. -Thragnor 05:08, 13 September 2007 (BST)
13. Kill/Change - I dun know about the rest of you but I used my zippo to get around my house and find stuff when we had a blackout a few years back so yeah it DOES help, and perhaps you can broaden your concept and include candles and flashlights (AKA Torches in Britain) but as has been said, up the chances of finding one and that you only get one search when you enter the place then cap it. " You are enter the XXX building, you (flip open your lighter,) (light your candle,) (turn on your flashlight). You search around and finding XXX, or nothing, (you close your lighter) (blow out your candle) (turn off your flashlight)." JD 02:05, 15 September 2007 (BST)
14. Kill - If theres lighters, then I want cigarettes. --JS Leone 10:05, 16 September 2007 (BST)

Spam/Dupe Votes

1. Spam - Not worth it. --Sonny Corleone ^{RRF DORIS CRF pr0n} 00:27, 31 August 2007 (BST)
2. Spliced Ham What? Unless it gives you a 115% bonus, it isn't really worth the extra AP.--Wooty 01:55, 31 August 2007 (BST)
3. Why? Why? What other use would this have? Any? --Secruss 02:31, 31 August 2007 (BST)

   Spam - sucks, you could take the ap you saved not searching for a lighter and walk to a unruined building. Unsigned The preceding signed comment was added by boxy (talk • contribs) at 00:38 1 September 2007 (BST)

4. Spam - We don't need another crucifix. --Thelightguy 03:02, 31 August 2007 (BST)
5. Spam - Goes well with the cigarettes.--Karek^maps?! 04:12, 31 August 2007 (BST)
6. Spam - and almost a Dupe, too. Somebody suggested using flares in basically the same way. --Steakfish 12:39, 31 August 2007 (BST)
7. Spam - So little Jonny sonofabitch walks into a building, flicks on his lighter, finds nothing, and his lighter disappears in a puff of logic. Er, no.--Cap'n Silly ^T/W/P/C 13:41, 31 August 2007 (BST)
8. Spam - the idea might have a little life in it, but the suggestion is sadly not thought out well. You say the find rate would be 1%. On average, this would mean 100AP - 2 whole day's worth - would need to be spent finding a single lighter. Then, it would only give you one search-rate boost. It would be far more AP efficient not to look for the lighter, and instead find a generator and fuel can, which are both easier to find and will provide a longer search boost. The best place to develop this idea would be Talk:Suggestions. -- Pavluk 20:23, 31 August 2007 (BST)
9. Spam - Underpowered, and not needed even if it weren't The preceding signed comment was added by boxy (talk • contribs) at 00:38 1 September 2007 (BST)
10. Screw it. I'm not giving a reason for the rest of my votes in this spree.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 17:25, 9 September 2007 (BST)
11. As those above. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 21:52, 11 September 2007 (BST)
12. SPAM Flash lights would be better, lighters are only really good for smoking cigarettes and burning shit up and seeing how there are no cigarettes in UD I see no reason for a lighter--Johnny Reb 03:57, 13 September 2007 (BST)