Suggestion:20071016 Wall Crucifixes (revised

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20071016 Wall Crucifixes (revised)

Vkkhamul 03:07, 16 October 2007 (BST)

Suggestion type
New Item

Suggestion scope
Survivors only

Suggestion description
Wall Crucifixes can be found in Churches and Cathedrals. These are NOT the same crucifixes that I mentioned in the earlier version of the suggestion; they are a separate item. Wall Crucifixes have an encumbrance of 6% can be used to decorate buildings, similar to Decorative Items found in Museums.
Similar Suggestions (THIS IS NOT A DUPE)

• PR_Equipment_Change#Crucifix_Placement- Seriously, this one is different because the encumbrance has been adjusted to make it reasonably bulky enough to make it noticeable in a building. And once again, it is a separate item from the Crucifixes that survivors usually find.

Voting Section

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Votes must be numbered, justified, signed, and timestamped. # justification ~~~~ Votes that do not conform to the above may be struck by any user.

The only valid votes are Keep, Kill, Spam or Dupe. If you wish to abstain from voting, do not vote.

Keep Votes

1. Keep- Author vote --Vkkhamul 03:08, 16 October 2007 (BST)
2. Keep - Perfect. Sockem 03:13, 16 October 2007 (BST)
3. Keep - Sounds good to me. --Sonofagun18 05:01, 16 October 2007 (BST)
4. Keep - A little bit better than your previous post, but from the looks of things, this might get spammed to death. --Private Mark 05:12, 16 October 2007 (BST)
5. Keep - Some people are obsessed with duping. BoboTalkClown 21:06, 16 October 2007 (BST)
6. Keep Please, stop this senseless Duping! ~A`Blue`Jelly^TME*V*I*L*_? 04:05, 17 October 2007 (BST)
7. Keep It's harmless, and all the kill/spam voters are going to Hell. --MrCoolantSpray 13:58, 17 October 2007 (BST)

Kill Votes

1. What's the point? More useless crap to lug around when the linked suggestion above does the exact same thing? I mean there is NO definitive indication of just how big a "crucifix" officially is. How do you know it ISN'T already a "wall" crucifix?--Pesatyel 03:25, 16 October 2007 (BST)

   2% encumbrance is a bit low for a Wall Crucifix, don't you think? Also, a user on the previous version of this suggestion stated that they actually CAN be worn.--Vkkhamul 03:29, 16 October 2007 (BST)

   No, not really, since the item is intended to be useless and generalized. Also the wearable kind is NOT the same as the crucifix item. I should change this vote to spam because it makes the current crucifix MORE useless.--Pesatyel 02:01, 17 October 2007 (BST)

2. Kill - Unless survivours get the ability to destroy decour, I don't want to see crucifices littering buildings. --Pgunn 07:27, 16 October 2007 (BST)

Spam/Dupe Votes

1. Dupe - Of the suggestion you linked. Suggestions are supposed to be reworked in a significant manner, not just have a single number changed (Unless its a revision of the earlier suggestion). Since this is not a revision of the PR suggestion, and its exactly the fucking same, but by adding another of the same item (Duplicate), but with a number different. Dupe. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 03:12, 16 October 2007 (BST)

   Read the damn suggestion; the Wall Crucifix is a SEPARATE item from regular Crucifix. --Vkkhamul 03:14, 16 October 2007 (BST)

   I did, you were so hasty to re that i couldnt add my clarification because you edit conflicted me. The clarification is added in bold. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 03:15, 16 October 2007 (BST)

   How is creating a whole new item a dupe of changing an old one?? --Vkkhamul 03:18, 16 October 2007 (BST)

   Creating a new item, also called a crucifix (A near enough duplicate of the original crucifix) to hang on the wall (Duplicate of existing suggestion). Mixing two dupes into one suggestion doesnt make it any less of a dupe. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 07:54, 16 October 2007 (BST)

2. Dupe - Crucifix that can be hung on the wall, but heavier. Since you didn't mention search rates I assume it's the same as crucifix or equal to half what the normal ones search rate is, either way it's the same item just getting a benefit based on where it is found instead of just for being.--Karek^maps?! 03:31, 16 October 2007 (BST)
3. Dupe - I vote Kevan removes them form the game entirely though.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 04:37, 16 October 2007 (BST)
4. Dupe - it with fire. --Cyberbob ^{DORIS CGR U!} 07:57, 16 October 2007 (BST)
5. Dupe - and even if it wasn't, I'd vote Spam. We do not need more religious paraphernalia in this game. In fact, I wish He who shalt not be named had taken a leaf out of D&D (original, thanks) and just called it a "holy symbol". --Funt Solo 09:37, 16 October 2007 (BST)
6. Spam/Dupe - You can get crucifixes to wear as clothing in Catherdrals, now, can't you? So the item crucifix obviously IS a wall crucifix. Which makes this uncessary spam (making something that already exists) and a dupe. --WanYao 10:17, 16 October 2007 (BST)
7. Dupe - And we should also burn crucufixies in holy righteous fury! --Ryiis 15:02, 16 October 2007 (BST)
8. Spupe^TM - As above --Pavluk ^{A! E!} 17:20, 16 October 2007 (BST)
9. Dupe Looks like this ones a dupe.--Seventythree^Talk 00:34, 17 October 2007 (BST)
10. Doo0p Looks like this ones a dupe of 73's dupe vote.--  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 00:37, 17 October 2007 (BST)
11. Dupetastic - Looks like this ones a dupe of Target Zombie's dupe vote. --the one, the only, sushiknight ^{(talk contribs HARD E.N.D.)} 03:52, 17 October 2007 (BST)
12. Dupe ‬‮Dupe ‭‬‭ ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 18:23, 17 October 2007 (BST)