Suggestion:20071214 The Purpose of Clothes

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20071214 The Purpose of Clothes

Jon Pyre 15:33, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion type
Flavor

Suggestion scope
Besides avoiding nudity

Suggestion description
Clothes! They're fun but redundant with your profile description. You could find "black pants" and wear them, but you could also just type "He's wearing black pants" in your description. Here's where clothes can shine a bit: Flavor for zombies.

Zombies are anonymous in many situations, and rightfully so because survivors (and other zombies) shouldn't get their profile link for free. But why not use clothing to make these profile-link-less zombies stand out.

For example instead of seeing: Rhinoguy killed a zombie.

You could see: Rhinoguy killed a zombie wearing a tattered blood soaked lab coat and black khakis.

In zombie movies certain zombies are always made to stand out by their clothing. I recall one funny moment in Day of the Dead with a zombie still in her wedding gown, and another in clown make-up.

This shouldn't really cause spam, clothing should be often able to fit on the same line as the initial message. And if someone doesn't want to savor the flavor (thanks commercial I stole that line from) there could just be a checkbox in your settings to ignore clothing in alerts. So flavor and fun for those who want it, and nothing changes for those who don't.

This should also affect survivors you see killed or affected. If you can't open their profile link why not see their clothing? It'd be fun seeing a scientist get killed at a necrotech or a paramedic at a hospital. Clothing makes the man. When someone dies around you their clothing will make a statement about who they were. Again, this only applies to zombies and survivors you do not receive a profile link for in alerts. If you have a profile link you can just open that to see their clothing.

And yeah, I know zombies can't change their clothing. But they can get revived once (even brain rotters can) and set up whatever clothing they like for the future.

Voting Section

Voting Rules

Votes must be numbered, justified, signed, and timestamped. # justification ~~~~ Votes that do not conform to the above may be struck by any user.

The only valid votes are Keep, Kill, Spam or Dupe. If you wish to abstain from voting, do not vote.

Keep Votes

1. Keep This is just flavor. It makes "a zombie" into "a zombie in a tattered camoflauge vest" or "randomguy" into "randomguy, who wore a paramedic outfit and a stethoscope". If someone doesn't want to see this they don't have to, they'd be able to ignore all this roleplaying. So if you value short messages more than roleplaying/flavor there's still no reason to kill this. And if you like flavor, well, please vote keep! Several times! (ed note: please do not vote more than once) --Jon Pyre 15:35, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
2. Keep - Provided that the list of clothing shown with a kill would be kept short, one or two items. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 15:54, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
   • Re It would make sense for kevan to devise a stacking order of clothes so you only see what's on top. For instance, if someone has a jacket on you don't see their shirt. --Jon Pyre 15:56, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
3. Good idea. Kevan implemented something similar for Tangling Grasp (you get a message saying you grabbed a specific item of clothing) and its far from spammy. Avoiding spam could be as simple as ranking clothes by how interesting / distinctive they are (with bonus points for unusual color / cleanliness / gore level), and only describing the 2 most distinctive items or some such. And because hey, if somebody killed a zombie wearing a dear stalker and a brown rag you might notice. Swiers 18:17, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
4. Keep - Very flavorful. Maybe keep the description to just one article of clothing though. Hmm? ----Secruss^|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA||EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ||MU|GN|C2008||21:32, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
5. Keep/Change - This would be really cool, but it should include the person who killed the zombie's clothes, cuz then people could watch my cop character defend his turf from the horde of zombies. And if that isn't cool, what is? --Officer 123satsitx 23:07, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
6. Keep Cool. --Darth Lumis^{T! A! E! SR} 00:22, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Kill Votes

1. Kill - As Funt.Studoku 16:09, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
2. Kill - I like flavor, and I don't hate ideas just because you can turn them off, but I just don't like this one--Corndoghero^T-S-Z 16:20, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
3. kill If it just stated 1 item of clothing then maybe, but even that would soon get dull! --Honestmistake 16:48, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
   • Re It'd get dull if nobody responded to this suggestion. It'd be interesting if people dressed appropriately. If I want to be a fireman I can wear a fireman's hat, a rubber jacket, and yellow boots. If I want to be a member of the military I can wear that. --Jon Pyre 17:33, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
4. Kill - cluttersome togglespam. --Pavluk ^{A! E!} 17:39, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
5. Weak Kill - Idea needs a little bit more work to prevent clutter, but I like the basic concept. --Pgunn 17:56, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
6. Kill/Change - Basic idea is swell, just needs tweaking. How about only seeing certain clothes? Should reduce spam. Mattiator 21:14, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
   • Re Hmm, yeah, I'll need to revise this one. Thanks everyone. --Jon Pyre 22:03, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
7. Kill If people only selected one or two items of clothing it might be interesting, but since they usually wear six or seven it turns from flavorful (wearing a white lab coat) to boring (wearing blue socks, red shoes, a white shirt, a top hat, a lab coat, military goggles, brown jumper pants, and a blood-soaked Superman cape). My eyes just glaze over that, I won't read it when I look at someone's profile, I don't want to see it every time something dies or whatever. It's not a description, it's a fart. --Ms.Panes 23:26, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
8. Kill People wear too much clothes Inky 03:37, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Spam/Dupe Votes

1. Spam, because you just shot at a zombie wearing a blood-soaked chef's hat, broken mirror shades, a blood-soaked red tie, a blood-soaked red shirt, blood-soaked black trousers, a blood-soaked grey overcoat and blood-soaked shoes literally is spam. And, I know, I could switch it on or off. But if it's shite, on or off, then that switch isn't worth a damn. (Plus, I'm sick of suggestions that say "hey, if you don't like it, just switch it off". No - I don't want to spend half an hour fiddling around with 50 Jon Pyre Flavour Switches before I can walk 10 feet in the game without 23 flavour bombs going off in my face.) shakes fist at sky --Funt Solo ^QT 15:40, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
   • Re I currently don't have any flavor switches in game so there aren't 49 others for this one to join. Plus it's a one time click, like choosing which items to ignore. As for "blood-soaked" and all that, there's no reason why that couldn't be combined to avoid duplicates: "a zombie is wearing a grey shirt, and blood-soaked pants, shoes, and a leather jacket." Plus, I'd expect players would usually wear clothing as part of a theme or costume: "safety goggles, a lab coat, black shoes" or "a police jacket, a police hat, a toe tag" --Jon Pyre 15:43, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

   Re - Even once, I don't want to have to waste my time with it. The game's bursting to the seams with needless flavour already. (And I know there aren't "49 others" - it's called exaggeration, numpty-heid.) --Funt Solo ^QT 15:49, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

2. Spam - This is one of your worst ideas yet, and considering you have a long list of horrible ideas I don't use that phrase lightly. If you need to add an option to turn it off you shouldn't have suggested it in the first place, don't suggest things you know suck.--Karek^maps?! 15:59, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
   • Re I wouldn't turn it off. I don't think being able to turn something off means its inherently bad, it's a matter of preference. You can turn off finding fire axes also. This is about preference. I mean, I personally like the Zombie Genre and roleplaying. There could also be a checkbox to change "a zombie" to "Side A Unit", survivors to "Side B Unit", malls to "Four Square Resource Location" and Infectious Bite to "Side A Health Drain Attack" --Jon Pyre 16:04, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
     • Re You're comparing oranges and Suicide Bombers. Turning on auto drop has a purpose, it saves IP hits by removing 0 AP actions.--Karek^maps?! 22:46, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
3. Spam - As Funt and Karek. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 15:59, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
4. Spam - Wow, this is the definition of bad flavor. --Blobdude^{Talk TM MC} 16:36, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
5. Spam - As Funt and Karek --Ryiis 17:42, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
6. Spam - As Ryiis as'ing Funt and Karek. Er. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 18:38, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
7. Spam - You know? I'm really getting tired of all these flavour suggestions. Too many of them are just watering everything down.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 22:09, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
8. Spam - No. Please no more flavour suggestions for a while.--Seventythree^Talk 22:19, 14 December 2007 (UTC)