UDWiki talk:Administration/Promotions

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User:Axe Hack

OK, guys...last time I checked, the nomination does not get moved under Community Discussion until the nominee accepts the bid. I have not accept the bid yet, and have been moving it back to Still Requiring Vouches as the bid has not yet been accepted. I'm not moving it back up a third time now... -_- --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 00:07, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

That's true, I completely forgot about the accepting bit. Sorry! -- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 04:29, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Piss, or get off the pot -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 05:19 4 February 2011 (BST)

Jerrel

• Jerrel Yokotory (talk | contribs | UDWiki contribs | vndl data)

Jerrel Sysop Campaign Assets

№	Title	Content
00001	Logo
00002	Theme	"You Haven't Seen The Last Of Me" by Jer (born Jerrelyn Sarkisian)
09453	Personal quote	"I may not be the best formating guy, but I'm learning."
00174	Campaign Cartoon	"The Tom and Jerrel Show" Realistic depiction of Jerrel's constant conflict with the downpressing cats. All the violence in this show is based on actual A/VB and A/A drama.
00001	The Truth	In 2 weeks from now, it will be April 15. And Jerrel will be a sysop by that date.

I'm really amazed at the fact that this hasn't been put up any earlier. While there have been very good reasons to criticise Jerrel in the past, he has massively shaped up ever since.

He hasn't done a single bad edit in months - not in five months, not in six months, no, in friggin' seven months! That beats even Ross' track record, who has been put up on A/VB once during that time.

Apart of that, he is a nice guy who actively fights cussing on the wiki.

What could possibly go wrong by promoting someone like him? -- Spiderzed▋ 15:21, 1 April 2011 (BST)

• Strong Vouch - I like his campaign cartoon. -- Spiderzed▋ 15:21, 1 April 2011 (BST)

  ha! love the time stamp on this-- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking

  

  bitch 15:34 1 April 2011 (UTC)

  Rather start to vouch for Jerrel and his anti-cussing campaign, you massively retarded faggot. -- Spiderzed▋ 15:36, 1 April 2011 (BST)

  how about you both go fuck yourselfs twice with thads fat head.-- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking

  

  bitch 15:41 1 April 2011 (UTC)

• Against might be an even bigger tool than thad if that's at all possible -- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking
  
  bitch 15:35 1 April 2011 (UTC)

weak vouch oh yer right. i am massively retarded.-- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking

bitch 15:46 1 April 2011 (UTC)

• Strong Vouch - As Spider. ~ _{15:44, 1 April 2011}
• Incredible Hulkingly Strong Vouch - His sound advice and patience in our many long chats on IRC encouraged me to keep playing UD when I was at my lowest. And, he can fly. I love him. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |
   
  16:09, 1 April 2011 (BST)
• Against - way to biest for his own good --^TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 16:46, 1 April 2011 (BST)
• Who? er... MULTIPLE ORGASM VOUCH - I heard he was working on a time machine, so everything is kosher. Well, except for the time machine, I heard there was meat next to cheese. --THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks ^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 17:42, 1 April 2011 (BST)
• Questions
  1. What is different this time from the previous times you've asked for promotion?
  2. I notice on your talk page that you said that you wouldn't run again. What made you change your mind? Asheets 20:04, 1 April 2011 (BST)

     he hasn't acceptced the bid yet any way ash -- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking

     

     bitch 00:31 2 April 2011 (UTC)

• With a campaign this awesome, how could he possibly steer us wrong‽ Jerrel for Mod Sysop Bureaucrat God! ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 01:23, 2 April 2011 (BST)
• Fucking Against - he "fights cussing on the wiki"? Fuck that! --  ▧  ^{: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :} 08:32, 2 April 2011 (BST)

It's no longer April fools... so that'll be quite enough of that. The user is unlikely to accept, given their last post was in August -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 09:52 2 April 2011 (BST)

Archived Discussion

I archived the stuff from 2008 to 2010, as it's all painfully out of date. --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™} 02:33, 8 April 2011 (BST)

I reordered everything too, so now it should make some sense. --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™} 01:10, 15 April 2011 (BST)

I archived all discussion here to the relevant bids. and also removed vandal bids that were moved here. -- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 03:55, 17 April 2011 (BST)

The Next Sys-Op Speculation Corner

“	I'd rather have a team including historically sporadic editors, rather than just me, vapor and spiderzed. [...] As always I encourage more of you to run for sysop. We need fresh blood. Especially since Grim took all the black pudding away	”
—Rosslessness

There hasn't been a single bid since July, and of the 9 remaining ops, not all look that fresh either. Anyone having any candidates in mind? Some I would know off the top of my head:

• Chief Seagull - Regular bot reporter, knows wiki-code and wiki-procedure.
• DDR - Op of olde, still popping in all the time.
• Mazu - Highly active, has with Project:Very Funny involvement with a bigger wiki project, knows wiki-code.
• Sexualharrison - Wiki vet, regular bot reporter.
• Thad - Greatest Sys-Op Evar. (j/k)

-- Spiderzed█ 13:09, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

lolharrison. Looks like you inadvertently made more then just 1 joke.-- Thadeous Oakley Talk 16:02, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

riiiiight b/c you were such an effective and well liked sysop. what did you actually do or accomplish with the buttons again? oh right nothing! shouldn't you be off blowing yon and ddr or something? and no thank you. i am flattered but RL and my complete lack of interest in UDwiki policy, and my unhelpful nature makes me an unsuitable candidate. --User:Sexualharrison18:49, 5 February 2012 (bst)

Oi lay off I'm allowed to have my opinions and I liked Thad. All the extra curricular things me and Thad did were purely unconditional. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 23:48, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Also, I don't really see the need for more sysops. The current crew is mostly capable enough, and it's not like your drowning in work with all the little activity. Fresh blood for the sake of fresh blood alone isn't a real issue, and it certainly shouldn't be used as for an excuse for even lower sysops requirements in case that there is no immediate ideal candidate. - Thadeous Oakley Talk 16:02, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

It's less of a current problem, more one I see occurring over the next year. I honestly can't see the next generation coming through. still better than giving it to Amazing and Hagnat to run.--Ross^lessness 16:16, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

I've seen a few other like Shortround and Gordon who have taken initiative in the past couple of months and who, given time could grow into stellar candidates if they stick around. It's really all about learning policy, which seems daunting at first but isn't too overwhelming once you dive into it. Its really easy to get burned out doing this so if I had a piece of advice for any would-be sysops, its don't get drawn into every single spot of drama you run across. Vandal Banning and Misconduct is really a rather small part of what sysops do but a lot of emphasis seem to be placed there. The wiki is full of holes to be plugged and teh buttons are your thumbs needed to stick in them. ~ _{16:58, 5 February 2012 (UTC)}

We have a sysop team with smallish activity, which is fine because of the minimal workload. Personally I think you're all getting lazy and that small workload can take an embarrassingly long time to complete but it's inconsequential. UDWiki doesn't really need more ops IMO D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 23:48, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

I agree with DDR. We don't need more Ops. We need less. Let's get rid of the ones with less than 1000 edits since the past 91 days. :P --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 00:00, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

A week and Misanthropy gets warned, sadly  : ( D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 00:04, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

There's more factors than just laziness, likely. Personally, I don't see any harm in promoting qualified users that want to help. RL and other factors will inevitably claim other sysops such as myself (one of the factors I was referring to) and everyone will be glad for it. Decide not to promote now and we'll potentially lose the oppurtunity to have enough hands on deck in times of need. Think of the children! ~ _{00:15, 19 March 2012 (UTC)}

I agree. I just think it should be the community that rises to add themselves to the sysop team, not the other way around. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 00:23, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

As a member of the community, you have to be either a masochist or have ulterior motives to want to be a sysop. Checks on your buttons and janitorial bs hardly sounds like fun. --Kirsty _{Org XIII} ^Alts 00:31, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

I can honestly say I've enjoyed being a sysop. There are times that I don't of course but the majority of the times, yes. To be honest, Urban Dead is a boring game. If it weren't for the meta game and the wiki, I doubt many people would still play. Some prefer the meta game and some prefer the wiki. It takes all types, really. We're all just making Urban Dead less boring in our own individual way. ~ _{04:28, 19 March 2012 (UTC)}

This would be true, in my case it's mostly due to the lack of things to do here meaning I'm devoting more time to places that need it on other parts of the internet. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 00:54, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Adjusting Guidelines for System Operator Requests

Seeing as I have several of the more influential wikizens here against my current promotion bid for the same reason, being that I'm a bit too new, I'd like to suggest changing the current policy. This is in no way to contest the reactions on my bid, since I completely understand this reason, but rather to prevent people from making bids like mine in the future.

Proposal:

• Significant time within the community.

We define this as at least 6 months since the candidate's first edit.

Note: looking in a User's User contributions might give false results for this criterion, as the edit history is periodically purged on this wiki.

PB&J 08:48, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Ahh, but you see, the reason these outdated systems are in place is yet another way we can determine who is right for the job, because only the people who had the experience would know that these silly restrictions weren't in any way accurate!

But in most seriousness, it could do with a refresh, although we should make it approximate to the limits of most appropriate candidates more than simply following current trends of the 'age' of successful candidates. Badly worded, but what I mean is that if it were completely accurate to past candidates it would probably be a minimum of 12 months, and I don't know if that's a good number, so 6 months is probably a better all-round number even though realistically and historically it's probably a bit too low. A ZOMBIE ANT 09:42, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Starting to wonder who set it at 2 months in the first place... Anyway, a year will eliminate most "fresh" wikizens: the numbers for UD have been going down for years, and I'm pretty sure that there only a couple thousand (if even) unique people active. Keeping them active longer than a year is a task in itself: the amount and size of groups has gone down quite a bit, taking away an important direct support line. Same goes for the wiki: you've got the veterans here and only one in a couple hundred rookies will make it to that status thanks to stagnating numbers and updates. (the main reason I unstub as much as possible is to make the wiki more "complete", which should keep players interested longer. Same goes for the status reports) PB&J 10:26, 20 November 2012 (UTC)